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Title: West midlands super team ?
Post by: scouse3465 on March 16, 2011, 13:29:32 PM
Just clocked that basically Walsall and birmingham have merged. Thought it a bit strange to merge the winners who consistantly get the most runners with a team that finished 6th. Was looking forward to playin this and feels like we handicaped already. So the winning team gets boosted by all the players from another division 1 team. Thought point of merging teams was to make it more competive not just help out Walsall ??
Or was this just done because a lot of the walsall team was from birmingham anyway last year?
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: AMRN on March 16, 2011, 13:39:36 PM
Not sure about Walsall players numbers Steve - although they won it last year, they had less regular players that play every week than some other teams.... they just ran deep consistently.

Birmingham on the other hand just couldn"t get enough players to make any sort of challenge - we only had 4 or 5 regulars. With the way the league competition has shaped up over the past couple of years, it"s simply not possible to get any chance of success with a team of only 4 or 5 players.

Birmingham and Walsall are a stone"s throw from each other, so any new players eligible to join Bham would also be eligible to join Walsall... but the more attractive proposition to these people was clearly Walsall due to the realistic chance of success compared to Bham"s minimal chances.... this meant it was nigh on impossible to recruit new players and improve the situation for Bham.


Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: scouse3465 on March 16, 2011, 13:49:44 PM
I didnt play much last year as sunday bad night for me so not sure on number s but told walsall had a lot of players with a few from birmingham but thats gone now and can understand putting brum and walsall together but looks like they going to have such an advantage purely from numbers game. Merging teams was to make it more competive i believed this will not make it so.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: cincicrappykid on March 16, 2011, 13:56:24 PM
A BIT LIKE THE PReMIERSHIP THEN !!!!!
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PantsMan on March 16, 2011, 17:23:12 PM
Yet again the old myth about Walsall winning due to numbers comes up. Take a look at the top points scorers and Walsall had 7 out of the top 20 (Birmingham had 1 - Ant). Our top players were constantly scoring top points and that"s why we won the league. There are teams with more players than us but there points were spread out amongst many players.

The last game of the season there were 55 players. Only 8 of those were from Walsall and we went on to beat teams with more players. We may have lot of players signed up but it"s the core team that plays every week and scores the points.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: scouse3465 on March 16, 2011, 17:35:53 PM
Quote from: PantsMan on March 16, 2011, 17:23:12 PM

Yet again the old myth about Walsall winning due to numbers comes up. Take a look at the top points scorers and Walsall had 7 out of the top 20 (Birmingham had 1 - Ant). Our top players were constantly scoring top points and that"s why we won the league. There are teams with more players than us but there points were spread out amongst many players.

The last game of the season there were 55 players. Only 8 of those were from Walsall and we went on to beat teams with more players. We may have lot of players signed up but it"s the core team that plays every week and scores the points.


fair enough if it aint numbers as i said didnt play many of these last yr so aint sure . But to join 2 teams who finished 1st and 6th and all others in 1st div stay same. Only just noticed they joined and think its a bit wrong to make the best team last year better. At the end of the day it would be the same as disolving liverpool / manchester and callin it north west. And am sure few others too
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Chipaccrual on March 16, 2011, 18:21:25 PM
This is nothing to do with numbers, or making a "super" team.  There is little distinction between those players that live in Walsall and those that live in Birmingham.  In fact, a lot of people would argue that they are one in the same catchment area as far as the APAT online league goes.  This therefore made logical sense to create the West Midlands Poker club, as a lot of the Birmingham players were suggesting that they would play for Walsall, as it was just as close to their home.

Liverpool and Manchester is a different situation.  There are two distinct catchment areas within two large cities.  Very few players are going to suggest that they could have joined either when it comes to the league.

We always knew when the clubs were setup based on casino locations, not all clubs would generate large numbers, but with the shut down of both Bolton and Blackpool, I would expect both Liverpool and Manchester to pick up some players aswell.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Marty719 on March 16, 2011, 19:35:45 PM
All Ireland joint team ftw... ;D
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Swinebag on March 16, 2011, 21:49:17 PM
Have to say that Walsall are a superb team and thoroughly deserved their two titles. If the league was decided on points won divided by players playing, they would have probably won by a bigger margin.

Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 16, 2011, 18:21:25 PM

I would expect both Liverpool and Manchester to pick up some players aswell.


well one of ours has joined swansea and another has joined WMPC.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: scouse3465 on March 17, 2011, 09:36:59 AM
Surely players from your team cant change Rob and just to go in the super team ??
The point i was making though is walsall and birmingham had 2 decent teams and although a few players from birmingham played for walsall last year if they had moved to their closest team the league would be much tighter this year and would prob be much more interest in. But now most players will join west midlands and they will basically play off between themselves for the 4 seats. I hope this is not the case and i will be trying for liverpool both getting new players and encouraging them to play. I really think this is going to kill the league but really hope it does not. If it does i think there may be ways to amend it i.e. a certain amount of players nominated to only be allowed to score team points but obviously anyone can play and at end of each league top however many are then the nominated players. This would then negate any teams having a massive advantage by having so many more players(would still have advantage because more players to pick from). I was thinking 10 - 15 players each team. All players would still qualify for team shares etc and if were not in top 15 say, would then fight to get in top 15 for next league .

Good idea or shall i just stop moaning lol
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 10:31:02 AM
Players can"t just join any team they like, it should always be their local team.  Sometimes this is a grey area, and there are a few exceptions whereby players have joined their "hometown" club.

Let"s just remember this is a fun community league.  Yes we add some great added value seats, but it is supposed to be a fun league.

Scoring system will be updated this year, and this should help the issue over volume teams having a perceived advantage.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: nyerun on March 17, 2011, 10:46:25 AM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 10:31:02 AM

Players can"t just join any team they like, it should always be their local team.  Sometimes this is a grey area, and there are a few exceptions whereby players have joined their "hometown" club.

Let"s just remember this is a fun community league.  Yes we add some great added value seats, but it is supposed to be a fun league.



This is how I took the rule, as 12 months ago I"d have still said "I"m from Wrexham" now i say "I live in Aberystwyth" and as I stay here christmas, easter, summer I have gone to what is now in my mind my local team. If I ever moved back to Wrexham permanently though I"d count Manchester as my local city as it"s where I"d normally go if i had to go to a big city!
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: ian.ski309 on March 17, 2011, 10:48:47 AM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 10:31:02 AM
Players can"t just join any team they like,


There are a number of players who have done exactly that, some of them have valid reasons admittedly.

Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 10:31:02 AM
...it should always be their local team.


If there was another column in the Player Directory for "Town/City of residence" and people were honest about it, there would be uproar. Like you say Lee, it"s supposed to be a bit of fun but once you factor in the competitive edge and testosterone (and oestrogen  ;) ), the "fun" aspect has become secondary to some.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: mal666 on March 17, 2011, 11:41:30 AM
Might have to make it Counties next season.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PantsMan on March 17, 2011, 13:14:36 PM
Quote from: scouse3465 on March 17, 2011, 09:36:59 AM
Good idea or shall i just stop moaning lol


Stop moaning and get some better players.  ;)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PantsMan on March 17, 2011, 13:36:06 PM
Quote from: ian.ski309 on March 17, 2011, 10:48:47 AM

If there was another column in the Player Directory for "Town/City of residence" and people were honest about it, there would be uproar.


Well, out of the 7 players Walsall had in the top 20 last season i know at least 6 of those live in the West Midlands, and very possibly 7. 5 out of the 7 play for BCPC and 4 out of the top 5 Birmingham players do too. It"s a local club for local people.  ;)

It just so happens we have a lot of good players!
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: ian.ski309 on March 17, 2011, 13:57:59 PM
Quote from: PantsMan on March 17, 2011, 13:36:06 PM
Well, out of the 7 players Walsall had in the top 20 last season i know at least 6 of those live in the West Midlands, and very possibly 7. 5 out of the 7 play for BCPC and 4 out of the top 5 Birmingham players do too. It"s a local club for local people.  ;)

It just so happens we have a lot of good players!


I don"t doubt you for a second Andy, if only every club was the same.  ;)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PantsMan on March 17, 2011, 14:43:09 PM
Quote from: ian.ski309 on March 17, 2011, 13:57:59 PM

Quote from: PantsMan on March 17, 2011, 13:36:06 PM
Well, out of the 7 players Walsall had in the top 20 last season i know at least 6 of those live in the West Midlands, and very possibly 7. 5 out of the 7 play for BCPC and 4 out of the top 5 Birmingham players do too. It"s a local club for local people.  ;)

It just so happens we have a lot of good players!


I don"t doubt you for a second Andy, if only every club was the same.  ;)


We do have players from further afield but they were only recruited once other teams started recruiting people from the 4 corners of the earth and began playing the numbers game. Personally i"d be more than happy to lose any of our players who aren"t from the area if other teams did the same as i know we"d still be left with a very strong team.

All in all it"s going to be an interesting league this season and i"m looking forward to the challenge. Not sure about having Steve Redfern in our team though as he struggled enough last year knocking out his own team mate as he thought he was Walsall. This merger is really going to confuse him!  :)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: AMRN on March 17, 2011, 16:45:11 PM
Quote from: PantsMan on March 17, 2011, 14:43:09 PM

Not sure about having Steve Redfern in our team though as he struggled enough last year knocking out his own team mate as he thought he was Walsall. This merger is really going to confuse him!  :)


ya bugger Andy!

I was several sheets to the wind, it was 1am, and BCPC had so many on the final table I just lost track of who was Walsall and who was Bham ;)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: MintTrav on March 17, 2011, 18:12:58 PM
Congratulations to West Midlands on winning Season 5 league, and the foreseeable future leagues.

It was a miracle for Solent to run Walsall so close last time, but I can"t see it happening again, now that the dominant team in the league has been reinforced further. Not a very good decision.

Perhaps some of the other captains would be interested in clubbing together for a prize of some sort so our players have something to play for?
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Foggy on March 17, 2011, 18:22:42 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on March 17, 2011, 18:12:58 PM

Congratulations to West Midlands on winning Season 5 league, and the foreseeable future leagues.

It was a miracle for Solent to run Walsall so close last time, but I can"t see it happening again, now that the dominant team in the league has been reinforced further. Not a very good decision.

Perhaps some of the other captains would be interested in clubbing together for a prize of some sort so our players have something to play for?


Rather negative statement, but perhaps you might feel the same as Birmingham did last year when we were up against the masses of the Solent team
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 18:42:55 PM
This discussion is all well and good, but the facts of the decision are such :-


Walsall and Birmingham pretty much overlap when it comes to a player catchment area, always have.

Many of the players from the two old clubs, could have easily argued that either was their "local" club.

The decision has nothing to do with who has in the past or will in the future win the league.

You are entitled to view my decision as a poor one if you wish, but I will not be changing it.  And if anyone thinks it was made to help Brian and his team win the league again, you clearly do not know me very well at all.




I am pretty sure the West Midlands team will get outnumbered by the likes of Luton, Solent and Sunderland this season, to name but three.  Most of the clubs have a pretty decent catchment area of their own now to recruit new players and introduce people to APAT games.

We run a well organised and fun community league, that gets very good feedback from all over the poker community.  The games have a good structure, with a sensible buyin, and some great added value seats.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, I have revamped the scoring system this season, to try and improve the balance a bit, and negate the volume issue that so many people have concerns over.

This will be announced sometime over the weekend.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Logie66 on March 17, 2011, 19:14:34 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 18:42:55 PM

This will be announced sometime over the weekend.


Leigh,

Slightly off the topic.

Just one question, the Season 5 announcement merged the two London teams, any news on this ?

Cheers

Don
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PantsMan on March 17, 2011, 23:40:47 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on March 17, 2011, 18:12:58 PM

Congratulations to West Midlands on winning Season 5 league, and the foreseeable future leagues.

It was a miracle for Solent to run Walsall so close last time, but I can"t see it happening again, now that the dominant team in the league has been reinforced further. Not a very good decision.

Perhaps some of the other captains would be interested in clubbing together for a prize of some sort so our players have something to play for?


You already have something to play for.... the league. Rather than recruiting loads of players and trying to play the numbers game why not get a core of really good players together, that way you"ll be in the same position as our team and be in a position to challenge us? If there aren"t that many good players in the Solent area then so be it.

Perhaps you"d be interested in clubbing together for a prize of some sort so we can put our best 10 players together and play for that as well as the league?
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: duke3016 on March 17, 2011, 23:54:43 PM
To be perfectly honest I could not give a flying shyte if any team has loads of players, I don"t even care if all the players in said teams are "good" players. Most teams will have a nucleus of players that could and will match any other team. And while I do agree that more players from the same team reduces the variance aspect, I am neither upset nor worrried about the "merging" of any two teams.

Bring it on I say  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PantsMan on March 18, 2011, 00:31:53 AM
Quote from: duke3016 on March 17, 2011, 23:54:43 PM

To be perfectly honest I could not give a flying shyte if any team has loads of players, I don"t even care if all the players in said teams are "good" players. Most teams will have a nucleus of players that could and will match any other team. And while I do agree that more players from the same team reduces the variance aspect, I am neither upset nor worrried about the "merging" of any two teams.

Bring it on I say  ;D ;D ;D


**** me. Ger, the voice of reason. Never thought i"d see the day!

Well said that man. Bring it on!  :)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Logie66 on March 18, 2011, 07:16:07 AM
Quote from: duke3016 on March 17, 2011, 23:54:43 PM

To be perfectly honest I could not give a flying shyte if any team has loads of players, I don"t even care if all the players in said teams are "good" players. Most teams will have a nucleus of players that could and will match any other team. And while I do agree that more players from the same team reduces the variance aspect, I am neither upset nor worrried about the "merging" of any two teams.

Bring it on I say  ;D ;D ;D


well put Ger
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: scouse3465 on March 18, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
Quote from: duke3016 on March 17, 2011, 23:54:43 PM

To be perfectly honest I could not give a flying shyte if any team has loads of players, I don"t even care if all the players in said teams are "good" players. Most teams will have a nucleus of players that could and will match any other team. And while I do agree that more players from the same team reduces the variance aspect, I am neither upset nor worrried about the "merging" of any two teams.

Bring it on I say  ;D ;D ;D


Have to back my captain so bring it on ! Although Love your idea andy about a 10 players tourney and any other team want to do that for an added prize say 25 quid a man for season or something like that and then would be 2 ukipt seats per team entered added ??
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: samuel_9 on March 18, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
Quote from: duke3016 on March 17, 2011, 23:54:43 PM

To be perfectly honest I could not give a flying shyte if any team has loads of players, I don"t even care if all the players in said teams are "good" players. Most teams will have a nucleus of players that could and will match any other team. And while I do agree that more players from the same team reduces the variance aspect, I am neither upset nor worrried about the "merging" of any two teams.

Bring it on I say  ;D ;D ;D
You have to love this brilliant .....love it
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Foggy on March 18, 2011, 17:31:01 PM
Quote from: duke3016 on March 17, 2011, 23:54:43 PM

To be perfectly honest I could not give a flying shyte if any team has loads of players, I don"t even care if all the players in said teams are "good" players. Most teams will have a nucleus of players that could and will match any other team. And while I do agree that more players from the same team reduces the variance aspect, I am neither upset nor worrried about the "merging" of any two teams.

Bring it on I say  ;D ;D ;D


Well said Ger..................must have been in one of your more sober moments
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: MintTrav on March 19, 2011, 19:36:20 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on March 17, 2011, 18:12:58 PM

Congratulations to West Midlands on winning Season 5 league, and the foreseeable future leagues.

It was a miracle for Solent to run Walsall so close last time, but I can"t see it happening again, now that the dominant team in the league has been reinforced further. Not a very good decision.

Perhaps some of the other captains would be interested in clubbing together for a prize of some sort so our players have something to play for?


A bit harsh on reflection. I was rushing to get away from work (dont like posting in my own time) and didnt preview and edit like I usually would, so it came out a bit strong. I dont like the amalgamation, cos Walsall was already the strongest team, but I do see the reasons for it as well as those against.

I certainly never thought (nor suggested) this:

Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 18:42:55 PM

And if anyone thinks it was made to help Brian and his team win the league again, you clearly do not know me very well at all.


Anyway, good luck to the new team, but we will be trying our darnedest once again to make sure we win the thing this time.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Robbiebox on March 20, 2011, 14:39:12 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 10:31:02 AM



Scoring system will be updated this year, and this should help the issue over volume teams having a perceived advantage.

Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 18:42:55 PM


I have revamped the scoring system this season, to try and improve the balance a bit, and negate the volume issue that so many people have concerns over.

This will be announced sometime over the weekend.


Will be interested to see how you do this Leigh. I can only see either a limit on the number in a team or some sort of ratio of points to players entered as being the only way the competition can approach a fair league.

Quote from: duke3016 on March 17, 2011, 23:54:43 PM

To be perfectly honest I could not give a flying shyte if any team has loads of players.


I like your carefree attitude, but I don"t share it with a poker league. Clearly loads of others don"t too.

Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 17, 2011, 18:42:55 PM

 Most of the clubs have a pretty decent catchment area of their own now to recruit new players and introduce people to APAT games.



I like the philosophy of this, but if the tournament isn"t seen as fair then you will lose just as many from from the smaller (weaker) teams from not entering/continuing to play than you do by encouraging more to sign up with the larger (successful) teams.



I will hope to play this year, but will need to wait to see the league scoring details before deciding who to transfer my allegiance to this year.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: VBlue on March 20, 2011, 14:44:17 PM
I will hope to play this year, but will need to wait to see the league scoring details before deciding who to transfer my allegiance to this year.
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Mr Seal - I hope you can come and play for your "local" team - Team Carlisle (or Team Cumbria as I am preferring to call ourselves).
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Marty719 on March 21, 2011, 07:49:29 AM
There are currently 4 players signed up for Belfast.  Can we request a merge?
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 08:24:58 AM
Can"t wait for this to start.

My view on the percieved favs for this season -

West Midlands - Numbers and Class acts
Solent - Good Capt, and solid players
Nottingham - Solid and a very active capt and as such number reaching epic Luton numbers
Sunderland - Good numbers, Excellent players - Grt banter.
Luton - Over-zealous capt, Simply playing a numbers game and only won promo twice because we have 100"s and nothing to do with our class players. Obv.  ;D ;)

:D
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: scouse3465 on March 21, 2011, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 08:24:58 AM

Can"t wait for this to start.

My view on the percieved favs for this season -

West Midlands - Numbers and Class acts
Solent - Good Capt, and solid players
Nottingham - Solid and a very active capt and as such number reaching epic Luton numbers
Sunderland - Good numbers, Excellent players - Grt banter.
Luton - Over-zealous capt, Simply playing a numbers game and only won promo twice because we have 100"s and nothing to do with our class players. Obv.  ;D ;)

:D


where is the mention of liverpool ! We the only team ever to top walsal in the league!
And will think will be the only team with a chance of doing it again !
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: samuel_9 on March 21, 2011, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: scouse3465 on March 21, 2011, 10:31:25 AM

Quote from: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 08:24:58 AM

Can"t wait for this to start.

My view on the percieved favs for this season -

West Midlands - Numbers and Class acts
Solent - Good Capt, and solid players
Nottingham - Solid and a very active capt and as such number reaching epic Luton numbers
Sunderland - Good numbers, Excellent players - Grt banter.
Luton - Over-zealous capt, Simply playing a numbers game and only won promo twice because we have 100"s and nothing to do with our class players. Obv.  ;D ;)

:D


where is the mention of liverpool ! We the only team ever to top walsal in the league!
And will think will be the only team with a chance of doing it again !
yous have forgot about we NI team
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Shogun112 on March 21, 2011, 12:17:07 PM
Did this new scoring system get announce at the weekend as promissed?  I honestly cant bring myself to rummage around such a messy forum structure..!!
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Marty719 on March 21, 2011, 12:21:27 PM
It can be found in a sticky at the top of the appropriate section.  Nice n easy to find, but just incase....

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=8259.0
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Paulie_D on March 21, 2011, 13:58:22 PM
I could but it all seems to have blown over now....at least I hope so.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6Q9wAorJq9c/Rux6T_t8m3I/AAAAAAAAAEo/ZGRvuiXBSUU/s1600/storm_in_teacup+-+BW.jpg)


Peace All.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 14:03:32 PM
Quote from: scouse3465 on March 21, 2011, 10:31:25 AM

Quote from: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 08:24:58 AM

Can"t wait for this to start.

My view on the percieved favs for this season -

West Midlands - Numbers and Class acts
Solent - Good Capt, and solid players
Nottingham - Solid and a very active capt and as such number reaching epic Luton numbers
Sunderland - Good numbers, Excellent players - Grt banter.
Luton - Over-zealous capt, Simply playing a numbers game and only won promo twice because we have 100"s and nothing to do with our class players. Obv.  ;D ;)

:D


where is the mention of liverpool ! We the only team ever to top walsal in the league!
And will think will be the only team with a chance of doing it again !


::)  - opened myself up for that didn"t I!

I did say percieved, and it is all up for grabs -(just typing that still sends shivers)

Look forward to challenging everyone.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on March 21, 2011, 15:19:03 PM
Well we all knew that there would be some opposition to this merger !

It was actually brought about when Ant Williams declined to Captain Birmingham this season as he felt he had taken it as far as he could and could not get any more players regularly involved.
 Some players suggested Walsall merge with Birmingham....my reply was that Walsall didn"t need to merge with anyone as we are 2-time Champions, but if Birmingham wanted to play for us then of course, they would be welcome.
 Most of us play at the BCPC anyway and following a few texts / phone-calls, Leigh and the APAT heirarchy decided a West Midlands team was the way to go, so we are happy with that.
 Looking forward to the start of the season and good luck to all. We are rightly the team to beat solely on past results (1st, 2nd, 1st) but believe me, we will not underestimate any of the opposition.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: cincicrappykid on March 21, 2011, 16:02:52 PM
I WILL AND DO MMMMMMMMMMMMM NICE
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Marty719 on March 21, 2011, 16:31:28 PM
Pleeeeaaaaasssssseeeeeeee
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PantsMan on March 21, 2011, 16:39:32 PM
Quote from: cincicrappykid on March 21, 2011, 16:02:52 PM

I WILL AND DO MMMMMMMMMMMMM NICE


Love it. Ever the diplomat.  :)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PHIL_TC on March 21, 2011, 16:44:49 PM
Leigh, just thinking as we are closest to most of northern Europe can we be renamed the "Stockton on Tees and European all stars mega team" please? Kinda catchy. Many thanks.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: AMRN on March 21, 2011, 16:54:12 PM
Quote from: PHIL_TC on March 21, 2011, 16:44:49 PM

Leigh, just thinking as we are closest to most of northern Europe can we be renamed the "Stockton on Tees and European all stars mega team" please? Kinda catchy. Many thanks.


I thought all Euro players were signed up by Luton already
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: PHIL_TC on March 21, 2011, 16:59:08 PM
Quote from: AMRN on March 21, 2011, 16:54:12 PM

Quote from: PHIL_TC on March 21, 2011, 16:44:49 PM

Leigh, just thinking as we are closest to most of northern Europe can we be renamed the "Stockton on Tees and European all stars mega team" please? Kinda catchy. Many thanks.


I thought all Euro players were signed up by Luton already


We have one  ;D

But he only played one game last season...

For which he was sat out for the whole tourny...

Hmmm.. "Stockton on Tees and some European who don"t play all stars mega team" doesnt have the same ring to it :(
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Waz1892 on March 21, 2011, 19:01:27 PM
Quote from: AMRN on March 21, 2011, 16:54:12 PM

Quote from: PHIL_TC on March 21, 2011, 16:44:49 PM

Leigh, just thinking as we are closest to most of northern Europe can we be renamed the "Stockton on Tees and European all stars mega team" please? Kinda catchy. Many thanks.


I thought all Euro players were signed up by Luton already


::). We have 1.
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Ant1966 on March 21, 2011, 20:21:15 PM
Quote from: BOINGBLITZ on March 21, 2011, 15:19:03 PM

It was actually brought about when Ant Williams declined to Captain Birmingham this season as he felt he had taken it as far as he could and could not get any more players regularly involved.


I don"t recall "declining" to be captain I just said it was possibly time for someone else to take up the mantel.And don"t quote me on the latter because i don"t recall saying that to anyone either. ::)

Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Marty719 on March 22, 2011, 14:31:06 PM
Quote from: TheSnapper on March 21, 2011, 16:11:49 PM

Quote from: Marty719 on March 16, 2011, 19:35:45 PM

All Ireland joint team ftw... ;D


Just saw this ( I"m a bit slow :-[)

and this, Doh!

Quote from: Marty719 on March 21, 2011, 07:49:29 AM

There are currently 4 players signed up for Belfast.  Can we request a merge?


Leigh, can you please take a look at this as an option. A merge of Dublin and Belfast Clubs (both get 6-10 runners on average) will replace two less than competitive teams with one genuine contender. I suspect this will keep some players in the league that we have a significant chance of loosing.

Take a look at the paltry activity......

HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=8233.0)

and

HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=8238.0)




bump :)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Paulie_D on March 22, 2011, 14:38:10 PM
Quote from: Marty719 on March 22, 2011, 14:31:06 PM

Quote from: TheSnapper on March 21, 2011, 16:11:49 PM

Quote from: Marty719 on March 16, 2011, 19:35:45 PM

All Ireland joint team ftw... ;D


Just saw this ( I"m a bit slow :-[)

and this, Doh!

Quote from: Marty719 on March 21, 2011, 07:49:29 AM

There are currently 4 players signed up for Belfast.  Can we request a merge?


Leigh, can you please take a look at this as an option. A merge of Dublin and Belfast Clubs (both get 6-10 runners on average) will replace two less than competitive teams with one genuine contender. I suspect this will keep some players in the league that we have a significant chance of loosing.

Take a look at the paltry activity......

HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=8233.0)

and

HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=8238.0)




bump :)


Moved to it"s own thread...HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=8300.msg137023#msg137023)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: Curlarge on March 22, 2011, 14:51:41 PM

where is the mention of liverpool ! We the only team ever to top walsal in the league!
And will think will be the only team with a chance of doing it again !

Calm Down ;)
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: AMRN on March 28, 2011, 14:03:52 PM
Quote from: scouse3465 on March 16, 2011, 13:49:44 PM

I didnt play much last year as sunday bad night for me so not sure on number s but told walsall had a lot of players with a few from birmingham but thats gone now and can understand putting brum and walsall together but looks like they going to have such an advantage purely from numbers game. Merging teams was to make it more competive i believed this will not make it so.


According to THIS (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvT5dWEIkbmCdFQzbGtTbzk3OWxGNUJnWFk3UU4yQVE&hl=en&pli=1&authkey=CNHGqZYB#gid=0) the newly merged West Mids team has less players than Liverpool.....
Title: Re: West midlands super team ?
Post by: AMRN on April 11, 2011, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: MintTrav on March 17, 2011, 18:12:58 PM

Congratulations to West Midlands on winning Season 5 league, and the foreseeable future leagues.

It was a miracle for Solent to run Walsall so close last time, but I can"t see it happening again, now that the dominant team in the league has been reinforced further. Not a very good decision.

Perhaps some of the other captains would be interested in clubbing together for a prize of some sort so our players have something to play for?


So, who won last night and is now joint top after 2 rounds??

Also, with 27 players, West Midlands is now simply on a par with Solent, although still far behind Liverpool and Luton in terms of player volume.

LOL so much fuss about nothing.