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Title: APAT RULES
Post by: bigalhx3 on May 17, 2011, 13:04:19 PM
Iv seen a couple of post off late people asking what the apat rules regarding live events, is there any or is it up to the TD at the casino on the day as its allways been a nationwide problem the different casino and chains using  different rules

if there is some APAT rules might be best to have them in the live section to help out the new & OLD players
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: Paulie_D on May 17, 2011, 14:27:56 PM

Iv seen a couple of post off late people asking what the apat rules regarding live events, is there any or is it up to the TD at the casino on the day as its allways been a nationwide problem the different casino and chains using  different rules

if there is some APAT rules might be best to have them in the live section to help out the new & OLD players


APAT does have rules (HERE (http://www.apat.com/index.php/rules/)) on the main web site and these apply to all APAT events. Local/House rules do NOT apply.

They are not exhaustive but cover the basics. They basically mirror the TDA / Roberts with a couple of twists.

If there is a specific issue Tighty is on hand at all times.
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: MintTrav on May 17, 2011, 16:03:41 PM


Iv seen a couple of post off late people asking what the apat rules regarding live events, is there any or is it up to the TD at the casino on the day as its allways been a nationwide problem the different casino and chains using  different rules

if there is some APAT rules might be best to have them in the live section to help out the new & OLD players


APAT does have rules (HERE (http://www.apat.com/index.php/rules/)) on the main web site and these apply to all APAT events. Local/House rules do NOT apply.

They are not exhaustive but cover the basics. They basically mirror the TDA / Roberts with a couple of twists.

If there is a specific issue Tighty is on hand at all times.


However, try quoting APAT rules and the dealer will say he has not been made aware of them. Have witnessed this in three separate venues.
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: Paulie_D on May 17, 2011, 16:52:07 PM


However, try quoting APAT rules and the dealer will say he has not been made aware of them. Have witnessed this in three separate venues.


Yeah...I"ve had this too.

"Floor!"
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: TightEnd on May 17, 2011, 22:48:18 PM



Iv seen a couple of post off late people asking what the apat rules regarding live events, is there any or is it up to the TD at the casino on the day as its allways been a nationwide problem the different casino and chains using  different rules

if there is some APAT rules might be best to have them in the live section to help out the new & OLD players


APAT does have rules (HERE (http://www.apat.com/index.php/rules/)) on the main web site and these apply to all APAT events. Local/House rules do NOT apply.

They are not exhaustive but cover the basics. They basically mirror the TDA / Roberts with a couple of twists.

If there is a specific issue Tighty is on hand at all times.


However, try quoting APAT rules and the dealer will say he has not been made aware of them. Have witnessed this in three separate venues.



Once again players need to make myself/Leigh and the TD aware of this at the time. No one has ever mentioned this to me at an event


All venues about to host an APAT, and the person they nominate to be TD, are provided with a copy of the APAT rules and asked to TD the tournament to them, and brief their staff as well

Some it appears do not, or the staff are not listening. So something to press home for Cardiff onwards
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: AMRN on May 18, 2011, 09:05:07 AM




Iv seen a couple of post off late people asking what the apat rules regarding live events, is there any or is it up to the TD at the casino on the day as its allways been a nationwide problem the different casino and chains using  different rules

if there is some APAT rules might be best to have them in the live section to help out the new & OLD players


APAT does have rules (HERE (http://www.apat.com/index.php/rules/)) on the main web site and these apply to all APAT events. Local/House rules do NOT apply.

They are not exhaustive but cover the basics. They basically mirror the TDA / Roberts with a couple of twists.

If there is a specific issue Tighty is on hand at all times.


However, try quoting APAT rules and the dealer will say he has not been made aware of them. Have witnessed this in three separate venues.



Once again players need to make myself/Leigh and the TD aware of this at the time. No one has ever mentioned this to me at an event


All venues about to host an APAT, and the person they nominate to be TD, are provided with a copy of the APAT rules and asked to TD the tournament to them, and brief their staff as well

Some it appears do not, or the staff are not listening. So something to press home for Cardiff onwards


To be honest, I hadn"t realised this was the case. I thought we abided by the local casino rules.

In Newcastle we had a situation where a player continually folded out of turn when he was going for a fag - and that was every other orbit or so.  Richard Baker and I complained to the dealer who said it was ok, so we called floor.

The TD said he knew it was wrong, but it was an "accepted problem" and people were allowed to do it.  I then asked if it would be ok for me to just look at my cards as soon as they were dealt, and immediately fold them regardless of my position - he said I would get a penalty for that............ errrrrrrrr - not quite sure what the difference is.

When I mentioned it to the player concerned (openly across the table), he and his mate sate next to him started to berate the whole APAT thing moaning about these amateurs coming to their casino and trying to tell them the rules! Player concerned actually finished very deep on the final table - hope he went away with a better opinion of APAT than he seemed to have at the time.

I did mention it to Rich at the end of play, but obviously too late - next time the floor gives a stupid response, I"ll ask for the "proper floor" to come over.

Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: bigalhx3 on May 18, 2011, 10:30:26 AM
i must say im pleased that APAT does not allow rabbit hunting as i love the film watership down
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: bigalhx3 on May 18, 2011, 10:50:06 AM
A player must be at the table by the time all players have complete hands in order to have his or her hand live.
so its the last card dealt not your last or 1st  card and i take it at the table is sat down

The English-only rule will be enforced during the play of hands.
good ban the WELSH  ;D

Calling for the clock procedures: Once a reasonable amount of time has passed and a clock is called for, a player will be given one minute to make a decision. If action has not been taken by the time the minute is over, there will be a ten second countdown.
so we get 70 seconds b4 folding

For the avoidance of doubt, the clock cannot be called on a player by another player who is NOT participating in the hand in question

Tournament seats will be randomly assigned.
can we change this so i can be on Ger right in all comps
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: Paulie_D on May 18, 2011, 10:59:35 AM
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: nosey-p on May 18, 2011, 15:16:26 PM
Had a situation last year at DTD when an Italian guy kept on speaking in Italian to his friends who was railing him. The problem was his friends was right behind me and could have seen my cards. When I mentioned this to the dealer he replied "as long he is not in a hand its fine"  
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: Paulie_D on May 18, 2011, 16:25:22 PM
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on May 18, 2011, 17:58:43 PM


In Newcastle we had a situation where a player continually folded out of turn when he was going for a fag - and that was every other orbit or so.  Richard Baker and I complained to the dealer who said it was ok, so we called floor.

Player concerned actually finished very deep on the final table - hope he went away with a better opinion of APAT than he seemed to have at the time.

I did mention it to Rich at the end of play, but obviously too late - next time the floor gives a stupid response, I"ll ask for the "proper floor" to come over.




I know who you"re referring to and the "proper floor" did give him a warning early on Day 2 that if it happened again he would be penalised and as far as I know it didn"t happen again.
Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: TightEnd on May 18, 2011, 21:09:15 PM



In Newcastle we had a situation where a player continually folded out of turn when he was going for a fag - and that was every other orbit or so.  Richard Baker and I complained to the dealer who said it was ok, so we called floor.

Player concerned actually finished very deep on the final table - hope he went away with a better opinion of APAT than he seemed to have at the time.

I did mention it to Rich at the end of play, but obviously too late - next time the floor gives a stupid response, I"ll ask for the "proper floor" to come over.




I know who you"re referring to and the "proper floor" did give him a warning early on Day 2 that if it happened again he would be penalised and as far as I know it didn"t happen again.


Proper floor=me

Title: Re: APAT RULES
Post by: Fatcatstu on May 18, 2011, 23:04:19 PM



For the avoidance of doubt, the clock cannot be called on a player by another player who is NOT participating in the hand in question





sigh GG european title... :p