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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => National Online League => Topic started by: Chipaccrual on June 05, 2011, 22:38:12 PM
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Guys,
First of all, many apologies to those that were playing in the league games tonight. Technical problems tonight meant that both league games were cancelled after 2 hours play.
I currently have no answers as to how or why this happened, but I will get an explanation from 888poker as soon as possible, and report back to you all on this thread.
From what I can gather, the prizepool was paid out to those players who remained in the tournaments. I"m not sure if this was a straight chop, or based on chipstacks.
Obviously, we are unable to allocate league points tonight, and we will be looking to re-run this matchday at later in the season.
Once again, apologies to all players involved.
Leigh
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I think this is very unfair on west mids.
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If there are no points going out at all Leigh, I should forewarn you about lots of feedback from us in the West Mids team as we represented 1 in 4 of the 55 players remaining...
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From what I can gather, the prizepool was paid out to those players who remained in the tournaments. I"m not sure if this was a straight chop, or based on chipstacks.
it was a straight chop, each player left got $22.72
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Unless the tournie is complete how can points be awarded?
Anything can happen with 55 players left. We had 8 of the 55 left, (1 in 7) it means nothing
If the tournie closed after 1 hand, would you expect any points to be awarded based on players remaining?
Nitemare for all, we move on.
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Unless the tournie is complete how can points be awarded?
Anything can happen with 55 players left. We had 8 of the 55 left, (1 in 7) it means nothing
If the tournie closed after 1 hand, would you expect any points to be awarded based on players remaining?
Nitemare for all, we move on.
Spot on Waz.
Check out my vomit when it crashed
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=8955.msg146882#new
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I think this is very unfair on west mids.
If there are no points going out at all Leigh, I should forewarn you about lots of feedback from us in the West Mids team as we represented 1 in 4 of the 55 players remaining...
As I would hope that you would appreciate by now, any decision taken will be thought out and aimed at being the fairest in the circumstances.
Firstly, I want to find out from 888poker, exactly why this has happened. By the time I get those asnwers, we will have had a bit of time to decide the most appropriate action regarding the league points.
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Right then, I have a response from 888poker.
"This evening, one of their servers crashed, which affected around 10% of running tournaments. This is very unusual situation for 888poker. When this happens, the system pays the prizepool out to those left in the tournament, which is standard across the industry."
888poker have offered to re-run the tournaments and will add some cash to the prizepool as a goodwill gesture.
I"m not going to rush into a decision on this, so will post in the morning.
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Cheers Leigh
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Thanks for the swift explanation Leigh.
When they stage the re-run, will it be restricted to those players who were still surviving when the server failed ?
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When they stage the re-run, will it be restricted to those players who were still surviving when the server failed ?
That"s the sort of stuff that just needs a bit of thinking about, hence waiting before posting the plan.
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Thanks for the swift explanation Leigh.
When they stage the re-run, will it be restricted to those players who were still surviving when the server failed ?
good point - makes sense. i guess it all depends on the APAT decision on points too. If points are awarded at point of cancellation, then 888 running the event again would mean the re-run would just be for the cash?
if points aren"t award at cancellation then you"d have to just have the remaining players? could 888 sort that out?
best to re-run the whole event from scratch?
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Thanks for the swift explanation Leigh.
When they stage the re-run, will it be restricted to those players who were still surviving when the server failed ?
In light of 888 saying they will add extra cash as an apology why should it be restricted to the surviving players.. Replay the League competition open to all league players with any extra cash that 888 offer and leave it at that...
At least that way I can possibly play as I wasn"t able to tonight.. ;D
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Thanks for the swift explanation Leigh.
When they stage the re-run, will it be restricted to those players who were still surviving when the server failed ?
In light of 888 saying they will add extra cash as an apology why should it be restricted to the surviving players.. Replay the League competition open to all league players with any extra cash that 888 offer and leave it at that...
At least that way I can possibly play as I wasn"t able to tonight.. ;D
How was John Bishop ?
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For me, the tournament should only have the remaining players. (Don't have to be for money just for the points). Any added money could go on the next league game or have a separate free roll game with both leagues together
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Nice of 888 to add cash to a re-run, but without wanting to be overly picky, why should those who didn"t play last night or who were knocked out and didn"t suffer from the crash, benefit from added money?
In terms of a re-run for points, 65 players were already knocked out prior to any issues arising - why should they get another chance to take league points? There were 55 players left when the crash happened - the re-run should be for those 55 only.
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i agree the re-run for points should only be for the players remaining at the time of the crash as that is only fair.
HOWEVER........... with regards of cash added by 888 why shouldnt all APAT players who made the effort to support this event benefit. afterall we donkeys also contributed to the dynamics of the tournament. i think the cash added should be on next weeks game or free roll the cash for all players who played last night
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Nice of 888 to add cash to a re-run, but without wanting to be overly picky, why should those who didn"t play last night or who were knocked out and didn"t suffer from the crash, benefit from added money?
In terms of a re-run for points, 65 players were already knocked out prior to any issues arising - why should they get another chance to take league points? There were 55 players left when the crash happened - the re-run should be for those 55 only.
+1
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The only similar sporting comparision I can think of is in golf.
If the final round is cancelled because of bad weather, the result stands at the point that everyone completed the same number of holes, in this case the end of the third round. What they don"t do is invite all of those that missed the cut,
at the end of the second round, back again on Monday to play again as well. If you are out, you are out.
As we are unable to establish a clear winner (or points scorers) at this point, it would seem that the fairest option would be for the remaining 55 to play for the points and any extra cash 888 might want to contribute, with the stacks they had when the server went down.
There can"t be any justification surely, for including those who are already out of the tournament as they are unaffected by any eventuality, sever, weather or otherwise.
So I suggest they take the $22 back and reset the game, assuming that is possible, and the "June 55" get busy.
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If 888 can tell us who the 55 are then this is feasible. However given their track record.....
We cannot see the lobby so I cannot verify
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If 888 can tell us who the 55 are then this is feasible. However given their track record.....
We cannot see the lobby so I cannot verify
As they paid out to 55 players, they must have a record of who those 55 are. I doubt they could verify chip stacks though - I suspect we would have to accept starting back on level stacks.
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I bought in late, was running close to 940,000 chips at the last count
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For me, the tournament should only have the remaining players. (Don't have to be for money just for the points). Any added money could go on the next league game or have a separate free roll game with both leagues together
I agree! :)
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Also remember guys there was another Division playing with 24 left, not just you 55! ;)
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If 888 can tell us who the 55 are then this is feasible. However given their track record.....
We cannot see the lobby so I cannot verify
As they paid out to 55 players, they must have a record of who those 55 are. I doubt they could verify chip stacks though - I suspect we would have to accept starting back on level stacks.
+1 and can I start with my 12K plus chips and be sat at the same table as I was smashing carving it up with Tod_Wood and Brummie Greg! ;)
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Also remember guys there was another Division playing with 24 left, not just you 55! ;)
Just like football, if you"re not Premier League you don"t exist ;D :D
It would be dead easy to reset/identify your chip stacks, just go to My Profile > Game History > Tournaments and run your last hand - if anyone in Div 2 struggles with that I took a screenshot of the ladder just as the plug was pulled. Might prove difficult for 888 to implement though...
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Cancel it - There are still 15 league games for the scoring.. Thats well enough..!!
The 55 left - They all made profit - And someone wants 888 added cash to be for them 55 only also - Bit greedy really..!! All runners should be able to get a bit of the 888 added..
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Cancel it - There are still 15 league games for the scoring.. Thats well enough..!!
The 55 left - They all made profit - And someone wants 888 added cash to be for them 55 only also - Bit greedy really..!! All runners should be able to get a bit of the 888 added..
Why? 65 runners in last night"s tourney were already out and were not impacted by the crash.
Any way, the cash is somewhere irrelevant - this is a tourney where points mean more than money. I don"t think it should be written off as your opening statement suggests - Replay with just the remaining runners is fair (in my opinion)
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Cancel it - There are still 15 league games for the scoring.. Thats well enough..!!
The 55 left - They all made profit - And someone wants 888 added cash to be for them 55 only also - Bit greedy really..!! All runners should be able to get a bit of the 888 added..
Why? 65 runners in last night"s tourney were already out and were not impacted by the crash.
Any way, the cash is somewhere irrelevant - this is a tourney where points mean more than money. I don"t think it should be written off as your opening statement suggests - Replay with just the remaining runners is fair (in my opinion)
It would be fair if 888 gave each player their correct chip stacks, but, they wont, and the people who were out front are penalised and the people just about to go out gain massively.
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Cancel it - There are still 15 league games for the scoring.. Thats well enough..!!
The 55 left - They all made profit - And someone wants 888 added cash to be for them 55 only also - Bit greedy really..!! All runners should be able to get a bit of the 888 added..
Why? 65 runners in last night"s tourney were already out and were not impacted by the crash.
Any way, the cash is somewhere irrelevant - this is a tourney where points mean more than money. I don"t think it should be written off as your opening statement suggests - Replay with just the remaining runners is fair (in my opinion)
+1
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Just call last night"s match void and play again at a later date...
The example given about the golf is ok if you want to support the argument about replaying with just the remaining 55. But what if you use football as an example. If a match is being played with 2 players out through injury and another out through suspension but for some reason the match is not completed, abandoned for snow maybe. When the match is eventually replayed then the players who were out for the original match are allowed to play in the second one. The strongest available team is selected on any given date and any rearranged game should have any players available allowed to play.
If the match is arranged for the players that remained and several of them are not available for that date - what happens then. Do you have another STT for the few who can"t make it.. And it can go on and on...
Match void.. replay at a later date with no restrictions.
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i agree with scouse, just add another date to the schedule.
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Surely 888 can give each player their chip stack back (at time of crash we are in 2011 after all).Leave money thay paid as a way of saying sorry.Replenish prize money with extra cash they said they would put in and continue both Div 1 and Div 2 matches where we left off. :)Simple
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why should those who didn"t play last night or who were knocked out and didn"t suffer from the crash, benefit from added money?
Why should those still in benefit from the added money? For once I agree with Shogun - you are being greedy.
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They could extra money to next weeks league games aswell as a way of apology to all players.
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why should those who didn"t play last night or who were knocked out and didn"t suffer from the crash, benefit from added money?
Why should those still in benefit from the added money? For once I agree with Shogun - you are being greedy.
I"m not being greedy John - if you had quoted the rest of my post, you would have included my next point that the cash in these tourneys is irrelevant - the tourney is about points.
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It"s pretty obvious that whatever is decided will upset someone. I feel sorry for Leigh as he has been placed in a no-win situation by 888 who have not exactly covered themselves in glory thus far (exchange rates >:()
I was in last place when the system crashed and my equity in the tournament was virtually nil so to double my buy-in is actually a result for me. I am presuming that "normal" 888 rules were applied in the event of a server crash so that for me is non-negotiable regarding the pay-outs.
The points is a trickier situation but the reality as we all know is that the leaderboard after level 8 should not be used to determine the overall result as things can change spectacularly between the end of level 8 and the end of the MTT. I know that the team with the most runners left will feel agrieved but I think that the match day should either be abandoned (ie run with one fewer matchdays this season) or re-run from scratch with everyone able to re-enter including those who were already knocked out.
As for any added cash, I would suggest that this is added to a future matchday and open to all runners. To say that players who were already knocked out are not affected is actually incorrect as finishing positions may have had an impact on team points and the individual prizes on offer at the end of the season.
Anyone who thinks that any added money should be played for by just the 55 (I was one of these) and the 24 in Div 2 is just being plain greedy is my view and it"s hardly in the spirit of APAT is it?
Good luck Leigh!
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I"m not being greedy John
For the record, Steve, I was about to edit that to tone it down "a little greedy"? - lol. Anyway it"s done.
Good luck Leigh!
We are all repeating self-evident points that Leigh is capable of working out for himself. Maybe we should just leave it to Leigh to find out the possibilities and make a ruling.
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I will respect any decision taken by APAT. It is inevitable that any decision will not please all of the people, however please remember the nature of the APAT organisers participation as volunteers. I hope that Leigh and his team do not get aggrivation over their considered judgement.
Honestly, from the position I saw us in last night when I logged off, it would probably suit Carlisle more if the match were void as we had 6 down out of 10 and only 2 inside the top 10 remaining. I did not see our position when the tournament was cancelled.
I prefer Void Match for the following reasons:
- APAT get the opportunity to re-sell the whole event and could potentially attract more runners
- increased rake opportunity
- all players get a chance to share in any added prize money from 888 which in turn could attract more players too
I can understand the argument for the existing runners only, mostly from those wanting to protect their chance to earn points in this Round. However, resetting all to a 3k starting stack and full blind structure is still not representing the tourney as it was when the tournament was cancelled and may actually add more of an unfair advantage for those teams who had players still remaining. Someone who was only a few blinds deep is now back with an even shot at the tournament.
It is that final reason that I would add to the above to argue for a Void match.
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Have nt read all posts so sorry if this repeats., But i will guess that all people / teams who were still in will want to replay it with just them left in . And all out and teams short will not. It should only be replayed with people left if all chip stacks are the same and prize pool is the same (and you can find a date where every player can play). If this isnt poss it should either be cancelled or replayed with anyone who played or wants to play.
Very unfair if replayed from equal chips because all players that have busted and bolstered other peoples stacks now have them cut back down. Therefore certain players would have just not played hands not gambled to get chips as you have to in tournies , will get back from bowl of rice to equal chips. And the players with big chips will be penalised.
Easy answer in my opinion play again or cancel. Replay with players still in if all on same chips massively unfair especially if there added money (should be open to ALL apaters )
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i agree with everyone ..o. and the wife shes never wroung
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It"s pretty obvious that whatever is decided will upset someone. I feel sorry for Leigh as he has been placed in a no-win situation by 888 who have not exactly covered themselves in glory thus far (exchange rates >:()
I was in last place when the system crashed and my equity in the tournament was virtually nil so to double my buy-in is actually a result for me. I am presuming that "normal" 888 rules were applied in the event of a server crash so that for me is non-negotiable regarding the pay-outs.
The points is a trickier situation but the reality as we all know is that the leaderboard after level 8 should not be used to determine the overall result as things can change spectacularly between the end of level 8 and the end of the MTT. I know that the team with the most runners left will feel agrieved but I think that the match day should either be abandoned (ie run with one fewer matchdays this season) or re-run from scratch with everyone able to re-enter including those who were already knocked out.
As for any added cash, I would suggest that this is added to a future matchday and open to all runners. To say that players who were already knocked out are not affected is actually incorrect as finishing positions may have had an impact on team points and the individual prizes on offer at the end of the season.
Anyone who thinks that any added money should be played for by just the 55 (I was one of these) and the 24 in Div 2 is just being plain greedy is my view and it"s hardly in the spirit of APAT is it?
Good luck Leigh!
+1
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I have to agree with Steve,.. I"m sure we all play these tourneys with our foremost goal to secure points for our relevant teams.. If we was solely playing for financial gain then there are far easier games to play. On a personal note the added value 888 want to add to next tourney is a nice gesture but wouldn"t be the reason I would want restart the tourney with the 55 remaining players.. I wouldn"t expect another chance to score points if I had been eliminated earlier on in the game.. Also Ricay says he was last in chips and had no equity? I realise it takes a great deal of luck to come back from that position,but anything is possible.. I was watching a fellow team member who was down to his last 700 chips ten mins later he was in top 10 with 8.5 k I actualy felt gutted for him only to see the server crash.. I say let"s play the tourney out with no prize pool just points with remaining 55 players, and all start with equal stacks, would it not be possible for 888 to start a new tourney from blind and ante levels from where it crashed? And say divided the 195,000 chips from the 65 exits between the 55 left so in effect they all start with 7.5 k. Then have a free roll for the added value between both divisions?
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I say let"s play the tourney out with no prize pool just points with remaining 55 players, and all start with equal stacks, would it not be possible for 888 to start a new tourney from blind and ante levels from where it crashed? And say divided the 195,000 chips from the 65 exits between the 55 left so in effect they all start with 7.5 k. Then have a free roll for the added value between both divisions?
I think that"s as good a solution as we could get under the circumstances.
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IMHO - in the casino games if there is a faulty game - win or lose its void and all stakes returned - sounds like thats what happened to me. Unfortunately there are too many variables to keep everyone happy - they could just give us all $100 free - won"t take them long to squeeze that back from the punters! Turmoil!
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I say let"s play the tourney out with no prize pool just points with remaining 55 players, and all start with equal stacks, would it not be possible for 888 to start a new tourney from blind and ante levels from where it crashed? And say divided the 195,000 chips from the 65 exits between the 55 left so in effect they all start with 7.5 k. Then have a free roll for the added value between both divisions?
I think that"s as good a solution as we could get under the circumstances.
sounds about the best solution to consider from all the other post here,
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I say let"s play the tourney out with no prize pool just points with remaining 55 players, and all start with equal stacks, would it not be possible for 888 to start a new tourney from blind and ante levels from where it crashed? And say divided the 195,000 chips from the 65 exits between the 55 left so in effect they all start with 7.5 k. Then have a free roll for the added value between both divisions?
I think that"s as good a solution as we could get under the circumstances.
sounds about the best solution to consider from all the other post here,would be better if we paid the 10euro entry and that would become a prizepool for the remaining players i feel we should be rewarded for gaining points for the league and first pos if it achieved.thats wat we all play for,well i do.
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if 89 minutes of a football match is played and the score is 9-0 when the game gets called off the whole thing is replayed
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if 89 minutes of a football match is played and the score is 9-0 when the game gets called off the whole thing is replayed
You could also say that in F1 after 75% of the race as been run then the resault stands
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As I couldn"t make it last night i missed what happened but from reading this thread it seems the only fair solution is that they re-run the whole thing with all members of all teams eligible to play but with the added value of 20 WSOP Main Event seats for the top 20 to spice things up a bit. It"s the only solution i think we can all agree on. Although there"d probably still be some people on here who"d whinge about it!
Failing that we run it as a Tighty Sit and Go. Although if the 888 servers couldn"t cope with a normal tourney they"d probably bring down the National Grid computing one of those! :)
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added value of 20 WSOP Main Event seats for the top 20 to spice things up a bit. It"s the only solution i think we can all agree on. Although there"d probably still be some people on here who"d whinge about it!
10 per division...naturally. ;D
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if 89 minutes of a football match is played and the score is 9-0 when the game gets called off the whole thing is replayed
So if the server crashed when it was heads up with still two players fighting it out after four hours and still points to gain.. The whole tournament should start with the original 120 runners? Could never see this being fair no?
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I"m a bit concerned that after 2 hours of play 888 believe it"s "normal" to divi up the prize pool equally amongst remaining players. This is grossly unfair and not what I have seen at other poker sites, although I haven"t seen a game crash for ages. Smacks of laziness to me.
Elsewhere, it"s much more "normal" to see 50% of the prize pool distributed equally to all remaining players and the other 50% go relative to chip stacks (or similar). 888 should get their calculators out.
I appreciate that their T&C"s say equal division and we all agree to them when we sign up. But I will think twice before using 888 in future - especially with this coming on top of other issues such as the addon problem.
I hope this never happens in e.g. a $500 deepstack after 15 hours of play. Big chip is gonna be mega chuffed with equal distribution of the prize fund to remaining players!
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I think looking for comparions to other sports is pretty futile, as has already been demonstrated.
The solution must work for poker and APAT, not for football or motor sport.
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I think looking for comparions to other sports is pretty futile, as has already been demonstrated.
The solution must work for poker and APAT, not for football or motor sport.
+1
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I went out early in the tourny , but if 888 want to throw some cash our way it should be open to all at the next event, If the tourny can"t be carried on with the remaining players & chip stacks then it"s just tough, sh*t happens & we must just add another date & get on with it, but there is no great hurry to sort this , let the man have some time to weigh up all the options, we will go with whatever is decided.
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I say let"s play the tourney out with no prize pool just points with remaining 55 players, and all start with equal stacks, would it not be possible for 888 to start a new tourney from blind and ante levels from where it crashed? And say divided the 195,000 chips from the 65 exits between the 55 left so in effect they all start with 7.5 k. Then have a free roll for the added value between both divisions?
I think that"s as good a solution as we could get under the circumstances.
sounds about the best solution to consider from all the other post here,would be better if we paid the 10euro entry and that would become a prizepool for the remaining players i feel we should be rewarded for gaining points for the league and first pos if it achieved.thats wat we all play for,well i do.
I think Carl has it spot on.
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if 89 minutes of a football match is played and the score is 9-0 when the game gets called off the whole thing is replayed
It would not... The result would stand in something so one sided as that with only a minute or so left...
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No it wouldn"t. Precedent in football for late abandonments is a complete replaying of the game
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think this cannot be replayed fairly . It just cant be re arranged fairly, stacks etc and also if players cannot make re arrange dates would substitutions be allowed ??
Think only fair way is just put a line threw it and move on.
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After discussions with a number of the great poker minds within the APAT inner circle, we have decided that the fairest thing to do will be to simply void this matchday and move on.
Those that were still in the tournaments are not financially out of pocket, and I will arrange with 888poker for some added value in a future matchday as a goodwill gesture for the technical problems.
I know that this may disappoint some players, but whatever was decided, there was going to be disappointments.
Good luck to everyone playing in Matchday 6 on Sunday.
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For me, the tournament should only have the remaining players. (Don't have to be for money just for the points). Any added money could go on the next league game or have a separate free roll game with both leagues together
Thats a grand idea
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After discussions with a number of the great poker minds within the APAT inner circle, we have decided that the fairest thing to do will be to simply void this matchday and move on.
Those that were still in the tournaments are not financially out of pocket, and I will arrange with 888poker for some added value in a future matchday as a goodwill gesture for the technical problems.
I know that this may disappoint some players, but whatever was decided, there was going to be disappointments.
Good luck to everyone playing in Matchday 6 on Sunday.
Thank you on a quick and tough decision .
Now lets all move on and let battle commence on sunday ,Please no disconnection ;)
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if 89 minutes of a football match is played and the score is 9-0 when the game gets called off the whole thing is replayed
not necessarily - depends on the circumstances. There have been games that have been abandoned where the result has stood, most famously the Bradford fire in "85, Denis law relegating Man utd in "74 (man utd fans invaded the pitch with 5 mins to go), and wba vs sheffield united where SU, after being down to 8 players with no subs, had to take 2 players off due to "injury" causing the match to be abandoned as they had less than 7 players.
but i get your point.
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No it wouldn"t. Precedent in football for late abandonments is a complete replaying of the game
correct with the only change to this being if a team do not have enough players, therefore the game gets awared as a 3-0 i think
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After discussions with a number of the great poker minds within the APAT inner circle, we have decided that the fairest thing to do will be to simply void this matchday and move on.
Those that were still in the tournaments are not financially out of pocket, and I will arrange with 888poker for some added value in a future matchday as a goodwill gesture for the technical problems.
I know that this may disappoint some players, but whatever was decided, there was going to be disappointments.
Good luck to everyone playing in Matchday 6 on Sunday.
right desison and very quick ...you r good young man
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Jesus, can we stop with the football analogies. Every poker situation that is discussed on this forum gets compared to what would happen if it was football, golf, horse racing, motor racing or some other sport that is irrelevant to the situation.
[Please ignore this if your analogy relates to beach volleyball.]
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if 89 minutes of a football match is played and the score is 9-0 when the game gets called off the whole thing is replayed
Not sure this is actually true........tighty???
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if 89 minutes of a football match is played and the score is 9-0 when the game gets called off the whole thing is replayed
Not sure this is actually true........tighty???
It is Rob
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After discussions with a number of the great poker minds within the APAT inner circle, we have decided that the fairest thing to do will be to simply void this matchday and move on.
Those that were still in the tournaments are not financially out of pocket, and I will arrange with 888poker for some added value in a future matchday as a goodwill gesture for the technical problems.
I know that this may disappoint some players, but whatever was decided, there was going to be disappointments.
Good luck to everyone playing in Matchday 6 on Sunday.
not really happy with that decision was trying to log on all evning and spend all tournament on sit out so just lost 11$ and have no chance to play a game
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Think 888 should also give every member their $11 back (on top of paying those who were still left) Just a little "cheesed off" having to donk in an extra $11
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Think 888 should also give every member their $11 back (on top of paying those who were still left) Just a little "cheesed off" having to donk in an extra $11
+1 !!!!!
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Think 888 should also give every member their $11 back (on top of paying those who were still left) Just a little "cheesed off" having to donk in an extra $11
What "Extra $11"?
No-one is being asked to join an additional tourney...the solution is one that just cuts out one tourney.
The ones in the abandoned comp who had busted have lost nothing they wouldn"t have already been paying..and the players who were still in have, as Leigh said, made a profit.
On the League front..it"s a wash.
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Think 888 should also give every member their $11 back (on top of paying those who were still left) Just a little "cheesed off" having to donk in an extra $11
What "Extra $11"?
What extra??
the ****ty site dont even let me reg to play the tournament so yes i wish to get my $$ back and no matter is only 11$ but the fact i can reg few hours befor with no problem and than losing time to try get in 888 when tournament start
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Think 888 should also give every member their $11 back (on top of paying those who were still left) Just a little "cheesed off" having to donk in an extra $11
What "Extra $11"?
What extra??
the ****ty site dont even let me reg to play the tournament so yes i wish to get my $$ back and no matter is only 11$ but the fact i can reg few hours befor with no problem and than losing time to try get in 888 when tournament start
right hold up, this is now clashing two different issues.
furness is talking about compensation for the tournament cancellation (although the remaining players were compensated with a share of the prize pool)
you are talking about not being able to play in a game you reg"d for due to software problems, I understand this is very very frustrating, but please try not to merge the issues. I assume you have taken this up with 888 support?
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Think 888 should also give every member their $11 back (on top of paying those who were still left) Just a little "cheesed off" having to donk in an extra $11
What "Extra $11"?
What extra??
the ****ty site dont even let me reg to play the tournament so yes i wish to get my $$ back and no matter is only 11$ but the fact i can reg few hours befor with no problem and than losing time to try get in 888 when tournament start
Struggling to translate that into English but here goes...
First you say "the ****ty site dont even let me reg to play the tournament so yes i wish to get my $$ back"
If it didn"t let you register then what $$ are you wanting to claim back??
Then you say "the fact i can reg few hours befor with no problem"
So, did you have no problem regging or did it not let you register??
Then you state "than losing time to try get in 888 when tournament start".
So, you couldn"t log on to 888? For a tournament that you either did or didn"t register for.
What does this have to do with APAT, or anyone else in the league who played the tournament? Are you honestly asking that everyone who played should get back their $11 because you couldn"t play??
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LOL, just lol
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OK....that"s enough.
The basic problem has been resolved to most everybody"s (if not everyone"s) satisfaction and we are getting away from the topic.
Accordingly, I"m locking this one off.
If you have issue UNRELATED to the tournament cancellation, please post a new thread in the 888 section.
If you really have a VITAL point (other than dissatisfaction with Leigh's decision) that NEEDS to be made, please PM me and I"ll reconsider re-opening.
Cheers,
Paulie.