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Title: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 15, 2011, 18:54:54 PM
The 2011 APAT World Amateur Team Poker Championship will take place as part of the World Championship of Amateur Poker festival, at Nottingham"s Dusk Till Dawn on August 25th & 26th.

The entry fee per country will be £400; with no registration fee.

There are currently 14 countries taking part in the event and they are as follows:-

Canada
England
France
Germany
Holland
Italy
Northern Ireland
Poland
Portugal
Republic of Ireland
Scotland
Spain
USA
Wales

Each country will feature four playing members and a Captain; who may play as part of the team of four.  All of whom will also receive an option to enter the World Amateur Poker Championship main event following the conclusion of the Team Championship.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 15, 2011, 20:48:58 PM
Team Captains

Click on a Captain to take you to their Official Team Thread

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JToL92UwHu4/TiCW9erLW8I/AAAAAAAADjI/mSqt_vsRxus/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Italy.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9227.0)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ul02sXuCJsk/TiCsPu2MkfI/AAAAAAAADks/EJc3eFnF0Gw/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520N%252520Ireland.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9222.0)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UX1Kh6sa12g/TiMe3T8iO7I/AAAAAAAADpk/fA4x_WgucMs/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Portugal.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9247.0)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V0DUr-w2gH0/TiCK2qVrIqI/AAAAAAAADhw/rVZWvEAJgvA/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Canada.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9219.0)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QEPBBUA6Xgc/TiCY3-Au5xI/AAAAAAAADjU/Mf-zNAl-P38/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520England.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9230.0)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nij327zeuaE/TiCM88HAZ1I/AAAAAAAADiI/9HnxtY0Qbzs/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520France.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9221.0)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gTT8WWVrPrE/TiCL4FT7e0I/AAAAAAAADh8/8ahsyCSjz0M/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520USA.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9220.0)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mScaEBAzkKg/TiCIM_Rq4DI/AAAAAAAADhI/4Of9gY_1VII/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Wales.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9217.0)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FtUayjq3-eo/TiCKIapZtfI/AAAAAAAADhk/-TvX9vqeb6o/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Germany.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9218.0)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zylTOvzS8Lk/TiCVYz_MG1I/AAAAAAAADi0/OAZccixA60o/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Spain.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9224.0)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PwkWjPoO8lY/TiGX7q9AwVI/AAAAAAAADok/0NrqBL1p5h8/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Ireland.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9226.0)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y6PVvO4QR3M/TiCTu-K3DRI/AAAAAAAADio/tTq1GIg3Olw/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Poland.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9223.0)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gxuDZmveioU/Th9KHLWoT-I/AAAAAAAADdM/07uFvL-dOeM/APAT%252520340x340%252520Live%252520WCOAP.jpg)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gxuDZmveioU/Th9KHLWoT-I/AAAAAAAADdM/07uFvL-dOeM/APAT%252520340x340%252520Live%252520WCOAP.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9228.0)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q_H1TMi9zi0/TihOjAbnmuI/AAAAAAAADsk/056aIjOyufw/APAT%252520340x340%252520WCOAP%252520-%252520Scotland.jpg) (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9225.0)

Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Marty719 on July 15, 2011, 22:26:04 PM
Looking forward to this a lot.  I know its early, but any idea if its gng to be just holdem, or holdem and plo?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 15, 2011, 22:29:51 PM
Quote from: Marty719 on July 15, 2011, 22:26:04 PM

Looking forward to this a lot.  I know its early, but any idea if its gng to be just holdem, or holdem and plo?


It"s likely to be NLHE and PLO STT"s, NLHE Heads Up, and NLHE MTT, but we are just finalising that with the venue.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: ian.ski309 on July 15, 2011, 22:32:07 PM
Why the change from previous years to include PLO ?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 15, 2011, 22:34:48 PM
Quote from: ian.ski309 on July 15, 2011, 22:32:07 PM

Why the change from previous years to include PLO ?


We ran one round of PLO in the home internationals in Newcastle, and it proved very popular.  For that event, every player had to play one STT of PLO.  Nothing is finalised as yet.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Marty719 on July 15, 2011, 22:44:59 PM
fwiw - I like the idea of PLO in there.  Adds something else to the mix and make it a unique tournament.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: ian.ski309 on July 17, 2011, 12:36:19 PM
I"ve bought in to Day 1a and the six max via the DTD client. Will participants in the Team Championships also have to buy in via DTD on line ?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 17, 2011, 14:34:28 PM
Quote from: ian.ski309 on July 17, 2011, 12:36:19 PM

I"ve bought in to Day 1a and the six max via the DTD client. Will participants in the Team Championships also have to buy in via DTD on line ?


Team entries will be collected on the day in GBP
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: ian.ski309 on July 17, 2011, 16:51:17 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on July 17, 2011, 14:34:28 PM

Quote from: ian.ski309 on July 17, 2011, 12:36:19 PM

I"ve bought in to Day 1a and the six max via the DTD client. Will participants in the Team Championships also have to buy in via DTD on line ?


Team entries will be collected on the day in GBP


Thanks Leigh.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 17, 2011, 19:11:31 PM
We can confirm that Portugal have been added to the list of competing countries.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: RILHO on July 17, 2011, 19:21:59 PM
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: coprey on July 18, 2011, 13:35:47 PM
Quote from: Marty719 on July 15, 2011, 22:44:59 PM

fwiw - I like the idea of PLO in there.  Adds something else to the mix and make it a unique tournament.


+1
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Santino67 on July 19, 2011, 21:00:35 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on July 15, 2011, 22:34:48 PM

Quote from: ian.ski309 on July 15, 2011, 22:32:07 PM

Why the change from previous years to include PLO ?


We ran one round of PLO in the home internationals in Newcastle, and it proved very popular.  For that event, every player had to play one STT of PLO.  Nothing is finalised as yet.


I concur  8)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Careybear on July 24, 2011, 15:00:49 PM
What time does the team championship start on each day?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: cashman on July 24, 2011, 15:03:08 PM
i think it"s 2.30pm
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Careybear on July 25, 2011, 19:02:28 PM
Can someone please answer my question in the usa thread please.  http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9220.15
Thanks, Careybear
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2011, 19:37:02 PM
Day One

2:30pm 7 x 8 handed NLHE STT
5:30pm 7 x 8 handed PLO STT
9:00pm 35 x HU Matches (To be run back to back)

Day Two

2:30pm 7 x 8 handed NLHE STT
6:00pm 56 Runner MTT (9 handed tables)

Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: fethepo on July 27, 2011, 17:26:04 PM
This is dynamite tournament structure! Congrats guys you really putting up a great event again here.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Fatcatstu on July 27, 2011, 17:27:33 PM
Quote from: fethepo on July 27, 2011, 17:26:04 PM

This is dynamite tournament structure! Congrats guys you really putting up a great event again here.


last time i saw you was the europeans when we spent a good hour bullying Blatchely"s chips out of him. that was so much fun :)

be good to see you again :)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: magata on July 30, 2011, 12:24:30 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on July 25, 2011, 19:37:02 PM

Day One

2:30pm 7 x 8 handed NLHE STT
5:30pm 7 x 8 handed PLO STT
9:00pm 35 x HU Matches (To be run back to back)

Day Two

2:30pm 7 x 8 handed NLHE STT
6:00pm 56 Runner MTT (9 handed tables)




Hi

How are the points calculated for each of these???
And is it me just being blond or does 35 HU matches mean each team plays 5 HU matches? And does back to back mean that one player can play all those matches for a team or is there a limit on how man HU one player per team can play?

Sorry captain"s job to ask all these questions...

Cant wait to see You all there!
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Swinebag on July 30, 2011, 12:34:30 PM
Good questions, saved me the same job
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: cashman on July 30, 2011, 13:02:25 PM
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Swinebag on July 30, 2011, 13:14:53 PM
I think there may be some adjustment from the UK team champs, or the MTT would carry too many points, making the STTs a bit pointless
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Des on July 30, 2011, 14:22:03 PM
Leigh will confirm the points allocations; proabably after he returns from Glasgow, but there will be some changes to the UK Championship structure, particularly in the MTT phase.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: fethepo on July 31, 2011, 08:15:56 AM
Quote from: Fatcatstu on July 27, 2011, 17:27:33 PM

Quote from: fethepo on July 27, 2011, 17:26:04 PM

This is dynamite tournament structure! Congrats guys you really putting up a great event again here.


last time i saw you was the europeans when we spent a good hour bullying Blatchely"s chips out of him. that was so much fun :)

be good to see you again :)


I have to admit I particulary enjoyed that phase of the tournament. Will be good to see you again.
Title: Netherlands Team
Post by: duncthehat on August 08, 2011, 20:44:47 PM
Seems my second country is very quiet in regard to the Team Event!!!!

Are they playing???  

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/1/5/6/8/4/webimg/496068026_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Netherlands Team
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 08, 2011, 20:51:33 PM
Doesn"t look very likely at this stage.
Title: Re: Netherlands Team
Post by: duncthehat on August 08, 2011, 20:58:54 PM
wimps
Title: Re: Netherlands Team
Post by: Foggy on August 09, 2011, 12:52:44 PM
You"ll have to change your name in APAT to..................................



Duncthesillyhat
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: rejmak on August 15, 2011, 21:11:24 PM
Quote from: Des on July 30, 2011, 14:22:03 PM

Leigh will confirm the points allocations; proabably after he returns from Glasgow, but there will be some changes to the UK Championship structure, particularly in the MTT phase.


Is Leigh still in Glasgow:)
is there any chance to find a scoring system befor team event starts.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 21:46:20 PM
Quote from: rejmak on August 15, 2011, 21:11:24 PM

Quote from: Des on July 30, 2011, 14:22:03 PM

Leigh will confirm the points allocations; proabably after he returns from Glasgow, but there will be some changes to the UK Championship structure, particularly in the MTT phase.


Is Leigh still in Glasgow:)
is there any chance to find a scoring system befor team event starts.


I"m just waiting on definite confirmation that the Dutch team are not making it and I"ll post up the scoring.

Unfortunately that gives us an awkward thirteen teams.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: AJDUK on August 15, 2011, 22:09:24 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 21:46:20 PM

Quote from: rejmak on August 15, 2011, 21:11:24 PM

Quote from: Des on July 30, 2011, 14:22:03 PM

Leigh will confirm the points allocations; proabably after he returns from Glasgow, but there will be some changes to the UK Championship structure, particularly in the MTT phase.


Is Leigh still in Glasgow:)
is there any chance to find a scoring system befor team event starts.


I"m just waiting on definite confirmation that the Dutch team are not making it and I"ll post up the scoring.

Unfortunately that gives us an awkward thirteen teams.


England "B" FTW  :D
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: MintTrav on August 15, 2011, 22:31:10 PM
Quote from: AJDUK on August 15, 2011, 22:09:24 PM

Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 21:46:20 PM

Quote from: rejmak on August 15, 2011, 21:11:24 PM

Quote from: Des on July 30, 2011, 14:22:03 PM

Leigh will confirm the points allocations; proabably after he returns from Glasgow, but there will be some changes to the UK Championship structure, particularly in the MTT phase.


Is Leigh still in Glasgow:)
is there any chance to find a scoring system befor team event starts.


I"m just waiting on definite confirmation that the Dutch team are not making it and I"ll post up the scoring.

Unfortunately that gives us an awkward thirteen teams.


England "B" FTW  :D


Sorry, but I"m going to defend the England team. They may not be very good but that comment is downright unkind.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 22:45:51 PM
Quote from: AJDUK on August 15, 2011, 22:09:24 PM

Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 21:46:20 PM

Quote from: rejmak on August 15, 2011, 21:11:24 PM

Quote from: Des on July 30, 2011, 14:22:03 PM

Leigh will confirm the points allocations; proabably after he returns from Glasgow, but there will be some changes to the UK Championship structure, particularly in the MTT phase.


Is Leigh still in Glasgow:)
is there any chance to find a scoring system befor team event starts.


I"m just waiting on definite confirmation that the Dutch team are not making it and I"ll post up the scoring.

Unfortunately that gives us an awkward thirteen teams.


England "B" FTW  :D


I already thought they were the England "B" team

Bag
Bedi
Barber
Bloody hell, you are kidding

;D
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: cashman on August 15, 2011, 23:30:49 PM
leigh if you need to make up another team why don"t you do a mixture team made up of european"s or from around the world with me as captain :) :) :)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on August 15, 2011, 23:41:34 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 22:45:51 PM

I already thought they were the England "B" team

Bag
Bedi
Barber
Bloody hell, you are kidding Beardy
;D


FYP
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 16, 2011, 08:29:55 AM
Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on August 15, 2011, 23:41:34 PM

Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 22:45:51 PM

I already thought they were the England "B" team

Bag
Bedi
Barber
Bloody hell, you are kidding Beardy
;D


FYP


So obvious. Why didn"t I think of that.

Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on August 16, 2011, 12:15:09 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 16, 2011, 08:29:55 AM

Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on August 15, 2011, 23:41:34 PM

Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 22:45:51 PM

I already thought they were the England "B" team

Bag
Bedi
Barber
Bloody hell, you are kidding Beardy
;D


FYP


So obvious. Why didn"t I think of that.




You "out-levelled" yourself
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: rejmak on August 16, 2011, 17:13:19 PM
Quote from: AJDUK on August 15, 2011, 22:09:24 PM

Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 15, 2011, 21:46:20 PM



I"m just waiting on definite confirmation that the Dutch team are not making it and I"ll post up the scoring.

Unfortunately that gives us an awkward thirteen teams.


England "B" FTW  :D


I think that isnt bad idea. You will have 4 very happy players which iam sure will be easy to find+ still have 14 teams which will be easy to sort out games....
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Santino67 on August 17, 2011, 00:45:46 AM
Quote from: cashman0 on August 15, 2011, 23:30:49 PM

leigh if you need to make up another team why don"t you do a mixture team made up of european"s or from around the world with me as captain :) :) :)


Any chance of a celebrity team willing to have a laugh?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Des on August 17, 2011, 02:05:13 AM
It wouldn"t be in keeping with the relatively competitive nature of this tournament to have celebrity or "B" team options.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: AJDUK on August 17, 2011, 02:17:28 AM
Quote from: Des on August 17, 2011, 02:05:13 AM

It wouldn"t be in keeping with the relatively competitive nature of this tournament to have celebrity or "B" team options.


quite the party pooper aren"t u  :-*
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Marty719 on August 17, 2011, 10:56:24 AM
1 less team = 1 step closer to medal spots :)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: thinsy147 on August 17, 2011, 11:04:33 AM
If the Dutch Captain is still willing to be a captain and/or there is some but not a full team that want to play surely the team name can be changed from:

THE DUTCH TEAM

to

THE TEAM WITH PLAYERS FROM COUNTRIES THAT HAVEN"T GOT A TEAM IN ALREADY :o
(maybe REST OF THE WORLD would be easier to commentate on!)  :P
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: smasher37 on August 17, 2011, 11:54:22 AM
Im with the rest of the world team idea superb may i put myself forward for the birth place of my dad Micronesia surely i can now not be denied LOL  ;D ;D
I am willing to take up the mantle for for this lost country in the international poker world
I thank you

Nazar ALi mohammed JNR (after my dad )
aka Nazar Plastic Jock Wrigley

;D ;D
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: thinsy147 on August 17, 2011, 12:12:44 PM
I get told I"m on another planet most of the time - Don"t know if that"s a qualification criteria!!

Unfortunately I have to work that weekend anyway!  :(
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Des on August 18, 2011, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: AJDUK on August 17, 2011, 02:17:28 AM

Quote from: Des on August 17, 2011, 02:05:13 AM

It wouldn"t be in keeping with the relatively competitive nature of this tournament to have celebrity or "B" team options.


quite the party pooper aren"t u  :-*


Yup  :)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Santino67 on August 19, 2011, 21:51:56 PM
Quote from: Des on August 17, 2011, 02:05:13 AM

It wouldn"t be in keeping with the relatively competitive nature of this tournament to have celebrity or "B" team options.


No reason why they wouldn"t be competitive, did anyone see the old late night poker celebs series? Not keen on 1 single B Team though as that could lead to other problems e.g which country?

Any resolution to this yet or will it just run with 15 13 teams?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2011, 08:09:22 AM
We"ll be running with 13 teams.

I"m just working on the structure and points to ensure all teams are on a level playing field as to potential points they can earn when we rounds of sit n gos that are unbalanced.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: MintTrav on August 20, 2011, 10:17:13 AM
Very pleased that an MTT is being included this time.

Not pleased that the players who give up their chance to play in two side events don"t receive any points for the Player of the Series or Player of the Year.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2011, 10:54:11 AM
Team Event - Points Allocations

Day One

2:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed NLHE STT   (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
5:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed PLO STT   (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
9:00pm 39 x HU Matches - 6 per team   (1st=4pts, 2nd=0pts)

Total points allocated for Day 1 = 548
Maximum Team points for Day 1 = 80

Day Two

2:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed NLHE STT   (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
6:00pm 52 Runner MTT    (1st=26pts, 2nd=25pts........25th=2pts, 26th=1pt)

Total points allocated for Day 2 = 547
Maximum Team points for Day 2 = 126


Notes

Due to the 13 teams, we will be running a number of 7 handed STT"s.  Points for those tables will be exactly the same as the 8 handed ones, without an 8th place getting 0pts.

The MTT will only alllocate points to the top 26 finishers (50% of the field).  We will run hand for hand at 27 (3 tables of 9 players)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on August 20, 2011, 10:55:37 AM
Far be it from me to admit that John has a point but could this be addressed by allocating points for 1st to 18th for the overall points scorers in the team event over the 2 days or 1st to 9th for the combined HU & STTs then 1st to 9th again for the MTT.

The overall field size is similar to the 2 x side events over this 2 day period so seems quite fair.

I am not in the team event and in both of the sides so my proposal is actually a disadvantage to myself - altruism & fair play ftw*

*What is the actual prize for POTY. If it"s all expenses to next year"s WSOP Main Event, then everything I"ve said above is nonsense and should be ignored  ;)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2011, 11:16:26 AM
No Player of the Series points will be awarded to the Team Event.

The Team Event is an invitational event where players get to represent their country and compete against teams travelling from all over the world.

Any player fortunate enough to be invited to play by a selected captain, unfortunately misses out on two of the other side events.

The prize for Player of the Series this year is a £150 seat into a DTD event.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on August 20, 2011, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2011, 11:16:26 AM

No Player of the Series points will be awarded to the Team Event.

The Team Event is an invitational event where players get to represent their country and compete against teams travelling from all over the world.

Any player fortunate enough to be invited to play by a selected captain, unfortunately misses out on two of the other side events.


This bit sounds like it should end... So There!  :)

Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2011, 11:16:26 AM

The prize for Player of the Series this year is a £150 seat into a DTD event.


I was asking about the Player of the Year prize Leigh. Can you clarify?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2011, 11:54:21 AM
I should have added "So there".   ;D

I don"t wish to come across so blunt on the discussion, but I very much fall into the camp of "It is an honour to be asked to play for your country, and if you would rather play the two side events to try an earn extra Player of the Series / Year ranking points, then you can always decline the invite, as I"m sure there would be a queue of other players wanting the opportunity to put on the shirt"

As for the Player of the Year prize, I will have to get clarification on that from Des, or you could ask him at DTD, as he"ll be there all week.

Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: MintTrav on August 20, 2011, 11:56:58 AM
What does he look like?
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: TightEnd on August 20, 2011, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on August 20, 2011, 11:56:58 AM

What does he look like?



a broader smile and a more contented glow than he used to have.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Fatcatstu on August 20, 2011, 14:20:08 PM
What are the prizes for the team event, if there are any? Also agree with the oversized Welsh one when it comes to player of the year, the honour of representing my country is far more important :)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: jayteejack on August 20, 2011, 18:23:04 PM
i agree playing for your country does have a nice ring to it and thats why i gave up my seats to both side events on the relevant days, however winning the player of the series  knowing that 52 other players couldnt compete kinda dulls the tune.
thats poker folks ;). GOOD LUCK TO ALL
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Pempi on August 21, 2011, 20:40:36 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2011, 10:54:11 AM

Team Event - Points Allocations

Day One

2:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed NLHE STT   (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
5:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed PLO STT   (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
9:00pm 39 x HU Matches - 6 per team   (1st=4pts, 2nd=0pts)

Total points allocated for Day 1 = 548
Maximum Team points for Day 1 = 80

Day Two

2:30pm 3 x 8 handed, 4 x 7 handed NLHE STT   (1st=7pts, 2nd=6pts........7th=1pt, 8th=0pts)
6:00pm 52 Runner MTT    (1st=26pts, 2nd=25pts........25th=2pts, 26th=1pt)

Total points allocated for Day 2 = 547
Maximum Team points for Day 2 = 126


Notes

Due to the 13 teams, we will be running a number of 7 handed STT"s.  Points for those tables will be exactly the same as the 8 handed ones, without an 8th place getting 0pts.

The MTT will only alllocate points to the top 26 finishers (50% of the field).  We will run hand for hand at 27 (3 tables of 9 players)


Just for consideration - would it not be fairer if both days were a bit more even in terms of the points a team can maximally score rather than total points? Awarding points to only top 18 in the MTT would mean max for a team on day 2 is 94. The current structure is set up towards making sure a lot of teams are in the running before the MTT kicks off, in fact probably all of them, which adds excitement i agree but also probably eliminates a lot of the "good work on day one" factor.
This is not criticism in any way - just hoping to open up a discussion.

And and also please, whats the call on the HU matches - how many players from each country MUST play a HU match? Will every player have to play one or will it be possible to choose the same player over and over in case of HU games that dont collide?
Thanks
Michael

Cant wait for the event guys, great work organising and reorganising!!!!!!
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 21, 2011, 23:11:27 PM
There will be no restrictions on who plays the heads up games.

They will be completed back to back with as many dealers as DTD can provide.

The only condition will be that a team cannot hold up a heads up match from starting, so they will have to select a player from one of there available players.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: duke3016 on August 21, 2011, 23:40:24 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 21, 2011, 23:11:27 PM

The only condition will be that a team cannot hold up a heads up match from starting, so they will have to select a player from one of there available players.


bugger  ;D
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Swinebag on August 22, 2011, 10:49:29 AM
The Lake Garda strategic retreat has gone very well.  8) 8)

I have to say that the points structure still places a bit too much significance on the MTT. However, it should make for a great finish with all teams just about in contention going into that final leg.

I agree that this should not be a ranking event (even though I"m top - brag) but surely there should be POS points for the top 5 or 6 point scorers
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: RILHO on August 22, 2011, 19:21:28 PM
Hello.all....Portuguese Team arrives on the 24th......Sorry mistake The Future World Champions arrive on the 24th in Nottingham....Looking foward to a great weekend with all of you!!!
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:11:44 PM
8 Handed NLHE STT

MatchMatch
1Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          2Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Poland)30001 (Spain)3000
2 (Canada)30002 (France)3000
3 (Scotland)30003 (Italy)3000
4 (Northern Ireland)30004 (England)3000
5 (England)30005 (Ireland)3000
6 (Ireland)30006 (Portugal)3000
7 (USA)30007 (Wales)3000
8 (Germany)30008 (Canada)3000
MatchMatch
3Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          4Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Northern Ireland)30001 (Portugal)3000
2 (Poland)30002 (Northern Ireland)3000
3 (Spain)30003 (England)3000
4 (USA)30004 (Wales)3000
5 (Scotland)30005 (Scotland)3000
6 (Germany)30006 (Canada)3000
7 (Italy)30007 (Ireland)3000
8 (France)3000
MatchMatch
5Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          6Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (USA)30001 (Portugal)3000
2 (Wales)30002 (Germany)3000
3 (France)30003 (Canada)3000
4 (Poland)30004 (England)3000
5 (Italy)30005 (Ireland)3000
6 (Spain)30006 (Scotland)3000
7 (Germany)30007 (Northern Ireland)3000

Match
7Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
Seat
1 (USA)3000
2 (Wales)3000
3 (Spain)3000
4 (Portugal)3000
5 (Poland)3000
6 (France)3000
7 (Italy)3000



Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:12:16 PM
8 Handed PLO STT

MatchMatch
8Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          9Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Spain)30001 (Ireland)3000
2 (Portugal)30002 (Italy)3000
3 (USA)30003 (England)3000
4 (France)30004 (Portugal)3000
5 (Poland)30005 (Wales)3000
6 (Italy)30006 (Scotland)3000
7 (Germany)30007 (Northern Ireland)3000
8 (Wales)30008 (Canada)3000
MatchMatch
10Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          11Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Poland)30001 (France)3000
2 (Ireland)30002 (Canada)3000
3 (Northern Ireland)30003 (Italy)3000
4 (France)30004 (Spain)3000
5 (USA)30005 (Portugal)3000
6 (Germany)30006 (Wales)3000
7 (Spain)30007 (England)3000
8 (Scotland)3000
MatchMatch
12Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          13Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Northern Ireland)30001 (Spain)3000
2 (Ireland)30002 (Poland)3000
3 (USA)30003 (Canada)3000
4 (Scotland)30004 (Portugal)3000
5 (Germany)30005 (France)3000
6 (Poland)30006 (Italy)3000
7 (England)30007 (Wales)3000

Match
14Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
Seat
1 (USA)3000
2 (Canada)3000
3 (Northern Ireland)3000
4 (Germany)3000
5 (Ireland)3000
6 (England)3000
7 (Scotland)3000



Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:13:02 PM
NLHE Heads Up


15Player (Team)                                   Status           16Player (Team)                                   Status
                   
SeatSeat
1 (Canada)PENDING1 (Ireland)PENDING
2 (England)PENDING2 (Northern Ireland)PENDING



17Player (Team)                                   Status           18Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Scotland)PENDING1 (USA)PENDING
2 (Germany)PENDING2 (Poland)PENDING



19Player (Team)                                   Status           20Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Spain)PENDING1 (Italy)PENDING
2 (France)PENDING2 (Wales)PENDING



21Player (Team)                                   Status           22Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Portugal)PENDING1 (England)PENDING
2 (Canada)PENDING2 (Ireland)PENDING



23Player (Team)                                   Status           24Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Northern Ireland)PENDING1 (Germany)PENDING
2 (Scotland)PENDING2 (USA)PENDING



25Player (Team)                                   Status           26Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Poland)PENDING1 (France)PENDING
2 (Spain)PENDING2 (Italy)PENDING



27Player (Team)                                   Status           28Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Wales)PENDING1 (Canada)PENDING
2 (Portugal)PENDING2 (Ireland)PENDING



29Player (Team)                                   Status           30Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Scotland)PENDING1 (Spain)PENDING
2 (USA)PENDING2 (Italy)PENDING



31Player (Team)                                   Status           32Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (England)PENDING1 (Germany)PENDING
2 (Northern Ireland)PENDING2 (Poland)PENDING



33Player (Team)                                   Status           34Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (France)PENDING1 (Portugal)PENDING
2 (Wales)PENDING2 (Ireland)PENDING



35Player (Team)                                   Status           36Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Canada)PENDING1 (USA)PENDING
2 (Scotland)PENDING2 (Spain)PENDING



37Player (Team)                                   Status           38Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Italy)PENDING1 (Northern Ireland)PENDING
2 (England)PENDING2 (Germany)PENDING



39Player (Team)                                   Status           40Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Poland)PENDING1 (Ireland)PENDING
2 (France)PENDING2 (Scotland)PENDING



41Player (Team)                                   Status           42Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Portugal)PENDING1 (Wales)PENDING
2 (USA)PENDING2 (Canada)PENDING



43Player (Team)                                   Status           44Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Spain)PENDING1 (Italy)PENDING
2 (Northern Ireland)PENDING2 (Germany)PENDING



45Player (Team)                                   Status           46Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (England)PENDING1 (France)PENDING
2 (Poland)PENDING2 (Ireland)PENDING



47Player (Team)                                   Status           48Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Scotland)PENDING1 (USA)PENDING
2 (Portugal)PENDING2 (Canada)PENDING



49Player (Team)                                   Status           50Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Wales)PENDING1 (Spain)PENDING
2 (Northern Ireland)PENDING2 (England)PENDING



51Player (Team)                                   Status           52Player (Team)                                   Status
SeatSeat
1 (Italy)PENDING1 (Germany)PENDING
2 (Poland)PENDING2 (Wales)PENDING



53Player (Team)                                   Status          
Seat
1 (France)PENDING
2 (Portugal)PENDING

Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:13:57 PM
8 Handed NLHE STT


MatchMatch
54Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          55Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (USA)30001 (Ireland)3000
2 (Germany)30002 (England)3000
3 (Italy)30003 (Poland)3000
4 (Spain)30004 (Canada)3000
5 (Wales)30005 (Scotland)3000
6 (France)30006 (Northern Ireland)3000
7 (Poland)30007 (USA)3000
8 (Portugal)30008 (Germany)3000
MatchMatch
56Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          57Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (France)30001 (Germany)3000
2 (England)30002 (Northern Ireland)3000
3 (Italy)30003 (Poland)3000
4 (Ireland)30004 (USA)3000
5 (Spain)30005 (France)3000
6 (Canada)30006 (Spain)3000
7 (Wales)30007 (Scotland)3000
8 (Portugal)3000
MatchMatch
58Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          59Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Northern Ireland)30001 (France)3000
2 (Ireland)30002 (Scotland)3000
3 (England)30003 (Italy)3000
4 (Canada)30004 (Germany)3000
5 (Italy)30005 (USA)3000
6 (Portugal)30006 (Spain)3000
7 (Wales)30007 (Poland)3000



Match
60Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
Seat
1 (Portugal)3000
2 (Northern Ireland)3000
3 (Wales)3000
4 (Scotland)3000
5 (England)3000
6 (Ireland)3000
7 (Canada)3000

Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:14:35 PM
NLHE MTT


 
MatchMatch
61Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          62Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Northern Ireland)100001 (Northern Ireland)10000
2 (USA)100002 (France)10000
3 (Canada)100003 (England)10000
4 (Germany)100004 (Wales)10000
5 (England)100005 (Ireland)10000
6 (Poland)100006 (Italy)10000
7 (Ireland)100007 (Portugal)10000
8 (Scotland)100008 (Canada)10000
9 (Spain)100009 (Scotland)10000
MatchMatch
63Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          64Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Germany)100001 (USA)10000
2 (Portugal)100002 (France)10000
3 (Italy)100003 (Northern Ireland)10000
4 (France)100004 (Poland)10000
5 (Poland)100005 (Scotland)10000
6 (Canada)100006 (Germany)10000
7 (Spain)100007 (Ireland)10000
8 (Wales)100008 (Spain)10000
9 (USA)100009 (England)10000
MatchMatch
65Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          66Player (Team)                                        Chip / Pos          
SeatSeat
1 (Northern Ireland)100001 (Germany)10000
2 (Canada)100002 (Portugal)10000
3 (England)100003 (USA)10000
4 (Italy)100004 (France)10000
5 (Ireland)100005 (Italy)10000
6 (Wales)100006 (Spain)10000
7 (Scotland)100007 (Wales)10000
8 (Portugal)100008 (Poland)10000


Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:16:19 PM
Seating Draw and information above is provisional, and APAT reserves the right to change any of above prior to the start of the tournament.
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Paulie_D on August 24, 2011, 13:28:25 PM
That"s the last time I look at one of Leigh's Team Tables.....

(http://www.girlsonscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/fringe-3x06-bleeding-eyes-small.jpg)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Marty719 on August 24, 2011, 13:40:56 PM
Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:16:19 PM

Seating Draw and information above is provisional, and APAT reserves the right to change any of above prior to the start of the tournament.


Wish I had read this before copying it out and putting names at each one :)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:45:03 PM
Quote from: Marty719 on August 24, 2011, 13:40:56 PM

Quote from: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:16:19 PM

Seating Draw and information above is provisional, and APAT reserves the right to change any of above prior to the start of the tournament.


Wish I had read this before copying it out and putting names at each one :)


It"s not going to change, unless we get a no show.   ;)
Title: Re: APAT WCOAP World Amateur Team Championship 2011
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 24, 2011, 13:48:04 PM
The Team Event Live Update thread is now, errrrrr, LIVE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9459.0)