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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => National Online League => Topic started by: gerry5421 on September 07, 2011, 13:56:07 PM
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Ok scouse just for you
I have collated all results as per the weekly game results post sheets , if any errors let me know this is not an official Table , just a temp measure untill APAT can catch up , we know they are busy.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArTrZp0v4JCgdFliVG5acmlZZlNYbVpSVWNTNjAwdnc&hl=en_GB#gid=5 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArTrZp0v4JCgdFliVG5acmlZZlNYbVpSVWNTNjAwdnc&hl=en_GB#gid=5)
CHeck out the previous weeks tables on the tab below to check out results I will try and update once we get going again
Hope it helps
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Top man Gerry !!!
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OK my schoolboy error now been fixed , sorry for the confusion
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Hi gerry , can we have another update please! thank you in advance :)
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Hi gerry , can we have another update please! thank you in advance :)
sorry scouse , been a bit manic , will try and get to it ths week tommorow may be good
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Hi gerry , can we have another update please! thank you in advance :)
sorry scouse , been a bit manic , will try and get to it ths week tommorow may be good
cheers fella
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArTrZp0v4JCgdFliVG5acmlZZlNYbVpSVWNTNjAwdnc&hl=en_GB#gid=5 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArTrZp0v4JCgdFliVG5acmlZZlNYbVpSVWNTNjAwdnc&hl=en_GB#gid=5)
Week 9 scores updated here now ,
Waiting on week 10 post and ill update again
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Nice one Gerry ,
come on JB you said would appear in the morning , it was assummed you meant monday morning lol
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Had a quick look. As you have missed the winner of Sunday"s game, I didn"t look any further.
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Sorry lads, life got in the way
I will do it for 11pm
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All results are now up and updated
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All results are now up and updated
will update google docs , tonight
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All results are now up and updated
In which case I am owed 3 points from the tourney on week 9, at the moment it is not shown
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All results are now up and updated
In which case I am owed 3 points from the tourney on week 9, at the moment it is not shown
4 west midland players finished higher than you and hence they took the points for the team , only 4 players from each team can score points ,
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All results are now up and updated
In which case I am owed 3 points from the tourney on week 9, at the moment it is not shown
4 west midland players finished higher than you and hence they took the points for the team , only 4 players from each team can score points ,
i think they still get individual points , it just dont count for team points for that week. pretty sure this right but aint 100 %
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All results are now up and updated
In which case I am owed 3 points from the tourney on week 9, at the moment it is not shown
4 west midland players finished higher than you and hence they took the points for the team , only 4 players from each team can score points ,
i think they still get individual points , it just dont count for team points for that week. pretty sure this right but aint 100 %
No scouse, had it last week with Glasgow team when 4 made final table, and had a few more in top 18 , only the top 4 scored , hence why there can be points further down finishing table as points move down
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This is where it gets complicated.
The points of the individuals should be protected.
Just because he/she has 4 players above him/her should not mean he/she gets zero points
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Clarification required then me thinks !
I dont mind either way cos liverpool never have 4 in the scores lol
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Clarification required then me thinks !
I dont mind either way cos liverpool never have 4 in the scores lol
This is being discussed at the moment, well it has been discussed but no conclusion made. Soooooon chaps sooooon. ;)
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This is where it gets complicated.
The points of the individuals should be protected.
Just because he/she has 4 players above him/her should not mean he/she gets zero points
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Totally agree with this.
It is ludicrous that player A would score more points than player B having finishined bellow him/her just because player B"s teamates did well.
You could finish 5th and score no points whilst in the same week someone finishing 25th got points!
How can this be justified?
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All results are now up and updated
In which case I am owed 3 points from the tourney on week 9, at the moment it is not shown
Very good point.. Think that would mean I scored 3 individual points aswell that week ;D
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In div 2 we have had occasions where this has happened for Leeds and the current ruling is that the 5th place finisher for the team doesn"t score.
I agree it should be changed but not half way through the season (otherwise Carl will be upset :-*)
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I think that you will find a post from Tighty that states that the individual points count, but obviously not towards the team score in that particulal league match
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5 - A maximum of four players per club can score individual points in any one match for calculating team matchday points. Should five players reach points scoring positions, the lowest of those points scorers will receive 0 individual points, and individual points will be allocated to the next best finisher. In this example, the player finishing in 19th position would receive 3 individual points for for the purposes of deciding matchday team points.
6 - Individual points will be totalled for every match and the club finishing with the most individual points will receive 3 match points. The club finishing with the second most individual points will receive 2 match points. the club finishing with the third most individual points will receive 1 match point. No other clubs will score match points.
from the terms and conditions,
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5 - A maximum of four players per club can score individual points in any one match for calculating team matchday points.
Think the highlighted bit is where complication will ensue......
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if they are the rules before we started then that is what it is whether it is fair or right. But defo question answered !
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if they are the rules before we started then that is what it is whether it is fair or right. But defo question answered !
Think you are missing the point Scouse.the rules state" team matchday points" not individual
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i know its for calculating team points but it keeps saying individual points ! up to the bosses for a ruling but i read it as individual points.
i dont really care either way to be honest foggy and prob wont make much difference to be fair
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in fact read first line gerry posted and highlighted ! only top four can score individual points ! then it talks about calculating team points for week. just adding to help decision made . as i posted before i think all should get points for individual standings but if rule there at start it has to stand
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and looking at it , it has been scored like that all season with some 19th 20th getting points so think its a bit too late to change it now and create more work for mods !
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Personally I read it as Individual points should be allowed, which is what I have said elsewhere, but only top 4 for team standings
Depends if James and Ian can go back through the previous 9 matchday results and work it through I suppose
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Personally I read it as Individual points should be allowed, which is what I have said elsewhere, but only top 4 for team standings
Depends if James and Ian can go back through the previous 9 matchday results and work it through I suppose
Wiiiiiii is that an official yes then? Or has Des got to finalise?.. I need all the points I can donk
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Personally I read it as Individual points should be allowed, which is what I have said elsewhere, but only top 4 for team standings
Depends if James and Ian can go back through the previous 9 matchday results and work it through I suppose
wouldnt fancy doing all my own spreadsheets for glasgow stats , and individual again to be honest , so if it was to be re-thought then i would just delete , not sure we can now go back and change a rule thats has been in place since day 1 .
maybe better keeping it in mind for next years league , as i dont see if affecting this years results as bottom scorers in a team would be beaten by top scorers in team anyway and would not make a difference to top scoring player in a team ,that may win the added value.if that makes sense
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Ok I have updated the individual table with week 10 resuults , seemed to be a few i didnt have on sheet , and have added, but if you spot a mistake let me know i will change as may have missed them somewhere on sheet.
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Does that mean we are also deducting points for those that were awarded them when someone scored 0 and also adjusting those that would have had a different number of points?
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OFFICIAL UPDATE;
In order to be fair to all players and to clarify the rules the following applies to points scoring;
Top 18 Points scorers individual points will be protected, team points allocation rule will remain as is.
Therefore it is possible to score points for the team but not for yourself (ie. finish 20th but 6 players in one team score points, you will score 3 points for the team but NOT for yourself).
This is being clarified because there is a prize for individual effort. This will ensure that it is fair for all and complies with the Top 18 scoring rule.
This clarification will be applied retrospectively and individual points will be updated for Div 1 and 2. Team points will not be affected by this.
We appreciate that work has gone into calculating these points by APAT forum members (particularly Gerry and Ian) and this was taken into consideration, however we felt this was clarification was required to prevent potential issues at the end of season and the work required to recalculate will not be too much effort.
If you have any queries, I know none of you will hesitate to let me know :)
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OFFICIAL UPDATE;
In order to be fair to all players and to clarify the rules the following applies to points scoring;
Top 18 Points scorers individual points will be protected, team points allocation rule will remain as is.
Therefore it is possible to score points for the team but not for yourself (ie. finish 20th but 6 players in one team score points, you will score 3 points for the team but NOT for yourself).
This is being clarified because there is a prize for individual effort. This will ensure that it is fair for all and complies with the Top 18 scoring rule.
This clarification will be applied retrospectively and individual points will be updated for Div 1 and 2. Team points will not be affected by this.
We appreciate that work has gone into calculating these points by APAT forum members (particularly Gerry and Ian) and this was taken into consideration, however we felt this was clarification was required to prevent potential issues at the end of season and the work required to recalculate will not be too much effort.
If you have any queries, I know none of you will hesitate to let me know :)
Fair enough , not sure i will get the individual sheets updated soon , will try and get the Glasgow stats , updated first and then look at individual ,
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OFFICIAL UPDATE;
In order to be fair to all players and to clarify the rules the following applies to points scoring;
Top 18 Points scorers individual points will be protected, team points allocation rule will remain as is.
Therefore it is possible to score points for the team but not for yourself (ie. finish 20th but 6 players in one team score points, you will score 3 points for the team but NOT for yourself).
This is being clarified because there is a prize for individual effort. This will ensure that it is fair for all and complies with the Top 18 scoring rule.
This clarification will be applied retrospectively and individual points will be updated for Div 1 and 2. Team points will not be affected by this.
We appreciate that work has gone into calculating these points by APAT forum members (particularly Gerry and Ian) and this was taken into consideration, however we felt this was clarification was required to prevent potential issues at the end of season and the work required to recalculate will not be too much effort.
If you have any queries, I know none of you will hesitate to let me know :)
Is Ian on the case for Division 2?
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OFFICIAL UPDATE;
In order to be fair to all players and to clarify the rules the following applies to points scoring;
Top 18 Points scorers individual points will be protected, team points allocation rule will remain as is.
Therefore it is possible to score points for the team but not for yourself (ie. finish 20th but 6 players in one team score points, you will score 3 points for the team but NOT for yourself).
This is being clarified because there is a prize for individual effort. This will ensure that it is fair for all and complies with the Top 18 scoring rule.
This clarification will be applied retrospectively and individual points will be updated for Div 1 and 2. Team points will not be affected by this.
We appreciate that work has gone into calculating these points by APAT forum members (particularly Gerry and Ian) and this was taken into consideration, however we felt this was clarification was required to prevent potential issues at the end of season and the work required to recalculate will not be too much effort.
If you have any queries, I know none of you will hesitate to let me know :)
Is Ian on the case for Division 2?
Yes this will be updated during the week.
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Thanks JB.
Can we have some kind of announcement elsewhere please as not all Division 2 players will be reading this.
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Ok scouse just for you
I have collated all results as per the weekly game results post sheets , if any errors let me know this is not an official Table , just a temp measure untill APAT can catch up , we know they are busy.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArTrZp0v4JCgdFliVG5acmlZZlNYbVpSVWNTNjAwdnc&hl=en_GB#gid=5 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArTrZp0v4JCgdFliVG5acmlZZlNYbVpSVWNTNjAwdnc&hl=en_GB#gid=5)
CHeck out the previous weeks tables on the tab below to check out results I will try and update once we get going again
Hope it helps
Guys this is off line just now untill i can catch up with the new ruling on individual points , will update as soon as i can and re-open the spreadsheet.