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Poker Forum => APAT Awards 2007 => Awards Archive => APAT Awards => Awards Discussion => Topic started by: PSVK1974 on December 31, 2007, 09:41:46 AM
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Dear dear me 21% do people really know anything about poker?
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dear dear me can you not differentiate between percentages and votes?
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dear dear me can you not differentiate between percentages and votes?
My apologies.
Only 21 people then know nothing about poker.
The people who have voted in these awards have clearly ruined them.
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dear dear me can you not differentiate between percentages and votes?
My apologies.
Only 21 people then know nothing about poker.
The people who have voted in these awards have clearly ruined them.
Not sure what this "sentence" actually means? What is the point you"re trying to make?
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dear dear me can you not differentiate between percentages and votes?
My apologies.
Only 21 people then know nothing about poker.
The people who have voted in these awards have clearly ruined them.
Not sure what this "sentence" actually means? What is the point you"re trying to make?
Well clearly the 21 people who voted know nothing of poker because they have voted for a guy/girl who shouldn"t even be on that list.
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dear dear me can you not differentiate between percentages and votes?
My apologies.
Only 21 people then know nothing about poker.
The people who have voted in these awards have clearly ruined them.
Not sure what this "sentence" actually means? What is the point you"re trying to make?
Well clearly the 21 people who voted know nothing of poker because they have voted for a guy/girl who shouldn"t even be on that list.
Oh - I see! I thought your initial post was saying that only 21 voted for him and the rest didn"t know anything about poker.
Dear dear me 21% do people really know anything about poker?
I think his result was a phenomenal achievement, and I"d love to do as well as he has.
I was split between voting for Jon Woodfield and John Tabatabai. Obviously, John did brilliantly to come runner-up to arguably the in-form tournament player in the world - but as this is APAT, I voted for the relative "beginner", Jon, who freerolled his way to Vegas where he more than held his own with the "best" in the world.
I"m sure John wouldn"t mind ;D.
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Well clearly the 21 people who voted know nothing of poker because they have voted for a guy/girl who shouldn"t even be on that list.
Jon Spinks got 21 votes - what have you got against him?
Or do you need to clarify further in some other way?
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Well clearly the 21 people who voted know nothing of poker because they have voted for a guy/girl who shouldn"t even be on that list.
Jon Spinks got 21 votes - what have you got against him?
Or do you need to clarify further in some other way?
I know how many votes he got.
But not only are his achievements not worthy of the list but he is a proffesional poker player so by the very name of these awards he surely cannot be nominated!
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I was split between voting for Jon Woodfield and John Tabatabai. Obviously, John did brilliantly to come runner-up to arguably the in-form tournament player in the world - but as this is APAT, I voted for the relative "beginner", Jon, who freerolled his way to Vegas where he more than held his own with the "best" in the world.
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I understand your argument Kin.
I think it"s like saying John Tabatabai has been a superb amateur player, but his achievement was boosting his normal 8 out of 10 level to a 10 out 10 level.
Whereas as a bog standard recreational player I had to up my game from a starting 4 out of 10 to an 8 out of 10 level.
I personally thought he should win it. However unlike Kinboshi I have no conscience am insanely competitive am driven and focused. Although now I wish I had voted for John Tabatabai just because it would have made the result even more exciting.
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But not only are his achievements not worthy of the list but he is a proffesional poker player so by the very name of these awards he surely cannot be nominated!
Why didn"t you say that to start with?
That was an awful lot beating around the bush before you finally managed to get to the point.
I can"t comment on the point, I wouldn"t know whether he was making a living from poker or not. But at least now we"ve got to what exactly you"re problem is.
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But not only are his achievements not worthy of the list but he is a proffesional poker player so by the very name of these awards he surely cannot be nominated!
Why didn"t you say that to start with?
That was an awful lot beating around the bush before you finally managed to get to the point.
I can"t comment on the point, I wouldn"t know whether he was making a living from poker or not. But at least now we"ve got to what exactly you"re problem is.
Surely the integrity of the association rests on knowing whether your members are amateur players or not.
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i still dont get why his achievements dont deserve a mention?
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i still dont get why his achievements dont deserve a mention?
He luckbox"s his way to 1 final table and this is worthy of nomination for performance of the year?
Your members must really be of a poor standard.
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i still dont get why his achievements dont deserve a mention?
He luckbox"s his way to 1 final table ...
You see, comments like that might make people think there"s something personal involved rather than an objective judgement.
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i still dont get why his achievements dont deserve a mention?
He luckbox"s his way to 1 final table ...
You see, comments like that might make people think there"s something personal involved rather than an objective judgement.
Nothing personal at all just saying what i see.
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If your of such a great standard, surely u want "luckboxes" such as him in the same tournaments of urself?
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I have only one comment to make, and that is congratulations Jon, well deserved in my opinion! ;)
Kevin
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I have only one comment to make, and that is congratulations Jon, well deserved in my opinion! ;)
Kevin
Thank You ;D
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Well done Jon! was there a reason Roberto Romanello didnt make the list tho?
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You"d have to ask Des for sure, maybe he just forgot about him?
It"s easily done, Roberto"s such a quiet type. :)
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If your of such a great standard, surely u want "luckboxes" such as him in the same tournaments of urself?
You are missing the point.
How can you luck your way into a final table finish in 1 MTT and then be nominated for performance of the year?
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If your of such a great standard, surely u want "luckboxes" such as him in the same tournaments of urself?
You are missing the point.
How can you luck your way into a final table finish in 1 MTT and then be nominated for performance of the year?
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bored now, somebody else might want to answer, but it"s getting too tedious for me.
Just congratulate me on the result and "let it go".
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If your of such a great standard, surely u want "luckboxes" such as him in the same tournaments of urself?
You are missing the point.
How can you luck your way into a final table finish in 1 MTT and then be nominated for performance of the year?
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bored now, somebody else might want to answer, but it"s getting too tedious for me.
Just congratulate me on the result and "let it go".
Why congratulate you?
This thread is not aimed at you!
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Congratulations Jon :)
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Why congratulate you?
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Why congratulate you?
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It seems you are more than worthy to have been nominated for the category unlike another certain individual ::)
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I have only one comment to make, and that is congratulations Jon, well deserved in my opinion! ;)
Kevin
Thank You ;D
Luckbox (twice now).
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I don"t know who you are but you obviously have some kind of grudge, most likely brought on by jealousy.
You have no idea about my personal affairs and if you call being a pro making a sole income from poker, so be it. I was talking to someone earlier, they are a housewife, the only money they make is from Poker, are they a pro? I am unemployed at the moment, but you don"t know anything about the area I live in, if I wanted to earn a crap income, I could, and I could go work 1 day a week and tell you where to stuff it, I spend a lot of my time helping on EatMyStack, I make videos of my play to help people with their cash and tournament games, I spend a lot of time analysing hand histories, as well as studying the game for myself. Just because I have a dream to make something of what I have, people like you are not going to stop me.
My achievement in the event I was nominated for was huge, I played for 17 hours and was against some of the best players in the world, the amount of money was VERY significant to me, and seeing as I only took $30k of the amount I won, I think that says a lot. I know you say luckbox cos you are just having a little dig, but you are obviously clueless, maybe you"d like to see the 1000+ hands I played of the tournament and then assess just how lucky I was?
The biggest tournament I have ever played in live is the APAT event, I thoroughly enjoyed the 1 and only event I have made of theirs so far, it was the most nervewracking experience of my poker "career", I felt more comfortable playing for $160k in that tournament then I did with the chip lead with 12 left at Walsall.
At the end of the day, I don"t play APAT events for the money, sure the £3k 1st prize is juicy and no one would not want to win it, but I play it for the experience, the social aspect, and the chance to support a great organisation, and if people like you struggle to understand that and want to destroy not only my involvement with it, but APAT's "integrity", then go for it. Des and the crew have done so much for the live poker scene in the UK and I intend to support them however I can, whether by playing the pro only events, or if I am allowed to, the national events.
This post isn"t just for the joker in this thread, it"s for everyone a part of APAT to understand, just because my only income is through poker, does not mean I am superhuman or looking for something out of it apart from the enjoyment.
Des and the rest of the crew, keep up the great work, and well done to the razz machine Jon (too many Jon"s in this category) for your great achievement.
That is all from me, sorry for it being so long.
Have a good new year
Jon
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I have only one comment to make, and that is congratulations Jon, well deserved in my opinion! ;)
Kevin
Thank You ;D
Luckbox (twice now).
;D Only the once more than you then ;D
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Changed my mind. That"s the Post of the Year (Jon S not Jon W).
Well said Jon, and very well played.
(I personally think all Jon/Johns should now be banned from APAT, as it"s far too confusing).
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I have only one comment to make, and that is congratulations Jon, well deserved in my opinion! ;)
Kevin
Thank You ;D
Luckbox (twice now).
;D Only the once more than you then ;D
I won an award too. So we"re level.
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Fantastic post.
... and well done to the razz machine Jon (too many Jon"s in this category) for your great achievement.
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Look up Jon/John and variants in those books which give you the meanings of names. It says,
"Definition:
(i) Talented and gifted poker player possessing the utmost skill,
(ii) Complete luckbox"
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I don"t know who you are but you obviously have some kind of grudge, most likely brought on by jealousy.
You have no idea about my personal affairs and if you call being a pro making a sole income from poker, so be it. I was talking to someone earlier, they are a housewife, the only money they make is from Poker, are they a pro? I am unemployed at the moment, but you don"t know anything about the area I live in, if I wanted to earn a crap income, I could, and I could go work 1 day a week and tell you where to stuff it, I spend a lot of my time helping on EatMyStack, I make videos of my play to help people with their cash and tournament games, I spend a lot of time analysing hand histories, as well as studying the game for myself. Just because I have a dream to make something of what I have, people like you are not going to stop me.
My achievement in the event I was nominated for was huge, I played for 17 hours and was against some of the best players in the world, the amount of money was VERY significant to me, and seeing as I only took $30k of the amount I won, I think that says a lot. I know you say luckbox cos you are just having a little dig, but you are obviously clueless, maybe you"d like to see the 1000+ hands I played of the tournament and then assess just how lucky I was?
The biggest tournament I have ever played in live is the APAT event, I thoroughly enjoyed the 1 and only event I have made of theirs so far, it was the most nervewracking experience of my poker "career", I felt more comfortable playing for $160k in that tournament then I did with the chip lead with 12 left at Walsall.
At the end of the day, I don"t play APAT events for the money, sure the £3k 1st prize is juicy and no one would not want to win it, but I play it for the experience, the social aspect, and the chance to support a great organisation, and if people like you struggle to understand that and want to destroy not only my involvement with it, but APAT's "integrity", then go for it. Des and the crew have done so much for the live poker scene in the UK and I intend to support them however I can, whether by playing the pro only events, or if I am allowed to, the national events.
This post isn"t just for the joker in this thread, it"s for everyone a part of APAT to understand, just because my only income is through poker, does not mean I am superhuman or looking for something out of it apart from the enjoyment.
Des and the rest of the crew, keep up the great work, and well done to the razz machine Jon (too many Jon"s in this category) for your great achievement.
That is all from me, sorry for it being so long.
Have a good new year
Jon
Well said and almost believable.
However I know you make your living from poker so that makes you a pro!
As does the fact that you are charging people for tuition.
I didn"t think you would include that bit.
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Fantastic post.
Thanks.
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Fantastic post.
Thanks.
Any time - I think at least one of your posts suggesting another post should be post of the year, should be the post of the year. ;D
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Well done Jon,as Glenn and i commented just before wsop "Jon is one of the most improved players on the APAT." Deserved win m8.
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Don"t know what all the fuss is about PSVK,
A board of APAT members decided that all these members deserved recognition for an achievement outwith APAT.
Personally I say well done to them all and especially to Jon MW who I know, as well as working hard at his game, still finds time to assist in other matters pokerwise.
Pro - non Pro? who gives a a flying fig, they are apaters and supported APAT.
Gentlemen, I tip my hat.
Geo.