Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => Staker Exchange => Topic started by: SirPercival on June 17, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
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SOLD OUT
My name is Stuart Oliver and if you don"t know me I"m in the photo above when APAT won the APAT forum event. I"m one of the 3 that was shoved to the back (left) alongside the other 2 point scorers, Wayne and Steve.
I am looking to sell 50% of my action at 1.18 for the following events as a package.
24th-27th August - GUKPT Goliath £120
6th-10th September - UKIPT3 Newcastle £770 (capped at 500 runners, £250,000 guarantee)
I am a recreational player and due to work and family I dont play near as often as I would like. This is why APAT suits me well, as they can be combined with weekends away, sometimes with the family in tow too. I have played at least 1 APAT event in every season, sometimes more. I rarely play online and am not posting online rankings because the sample size is tiny and I dont have any results to speak of anyway.
My Hendon mob data is here:
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=115535 (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=115535)
As well as the above I min cashed at last years Goliath (not sure why there isn"t a flag for this but my guess is it"s because they added in prizes for those that made 2 then didn"t make the official money. This included me after I had AA cracked :"( )
I also made the final table of a Venetian Bounty tournament during the APAT trip to Vegas last year (this was during a Venetian Deepstack event but again I didn"t get a hendon mob flag for it >:( )
During the same trip I was 4th in a Wynn tournament (other APATers played this and can confirm this if required)
This year I have played only 2 live events at my local casino due to being in the Middle East for work. Now that I"m back I am spending more time with my family hence why I would rather play a few quality events like these and APAT rather than loads of poker online or local events.
Total buy-in for the 2 events is £890. I am selling 50% @ 1.18 therefore
1% = £10.50
5% = £52.50
10% = £105.00
Any added value package that I happen to bink (e.g. champion of champions seat) is included. i.e if you buy 10% of the package you also have 10% of the added value.
I am NOT offering % in 1 of the tournaments. This is a package of 2 which I believe is better value for the backer.
Investors are buying a straight percentage of GROSS WINNINGS from these 2 tournaments. There is no Stake Back or Make-Up involved. E.G. If I cash for a total of £1000 each investor will be paid their percentage of that sum, i.e. 5% = £50.
Payment is by Bank Transfer only - I will sent details by PM if I sell out. If I don"t sell out I will reconsider taking a bigger % myself and liaise with backers.
I will update my progress on Twitter live and will write a brief report after each event on here.
Thanks for reading. If you want to invest (take a punt) then please post here or PM with any questions.
Stuart
UPDATE
49.6% Me
0.4% APAT
5% Suzanne Hayward - PAID
5% Mary Martin - PAID
5% Wayne Parker - PAID
5% Glenn Laming - PAID
5% Ian Thompson - PAID
5% Brendan Byrne - PAID
10% via facebook - PAID
5% Paul Gupta - PAID
2.5% Adrian Long - PAID
2.5% Joe Carr-Hill - PAID
SOLD OUT
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I haz no money or I"d take a chunk double quick :-[ Hope it gets sold for ya.
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OP edited following feedback.
I"ve removed the Genting event and reduced the mark-up making it over 30% cheaper to buy a piece.
Anyone who backs me in these 2 events will have first dabs on a stake of the Genting event in November should I decide to play it.
i.e. Made it a bit cheaper for you Dawn :)
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I will take 5% Stu, let me know how you want the cash.
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I am NOT offering % in 1 of the tournaments. This is a package of 2 which I believe is better value for the backer....what does this bit mean pls?? ???
Are u offering stakeback first before u take % of winnings and makeup if were to back in future stakes?
Also what were buy-ins for Vegas events pls bud?
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I assumed it to mean you cant just back for 1 of the games, has to be both.
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I am NOT offering % in 1 of the tournaments. This is a package of 2 which I believe is better value for the backer....what does this bit mean pls?? ???
Are u offering stakeback first before u take % of winnings and makeup if were to back in future stakes?
Also what were buy-ins for Vegas events pls bud?
Yeah Suz right, its a package of two tourns. Better value to the backer as there is less variance playing two, though some would prefer the big bink of a one off.
No and no to the second bit, would be stipulated in op. You don"t offer makeup in these type of stakes fwiw.
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I will take 5% Stu, let me know how you want the cash.
Many thanks Suz. Cash will be by bank transfer nearer the time, I will PM you.
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I am NOT offering % in 1 of the tournaments. This is a package of 2 which I believe is better value for the backer....what does this bit mean pls?? ???
Are u offering stakeback first before u take % of winnings and makeup if were to back in future stakes?
Also what were buy-ins for Vegas events pls bud?
Suz and Mal are correct regarding the 2 tournament package. Variance is slightly reduced and I am not offering the opportunity to back me in one and not the other.
I don"t consider makeup to be appropriate for this type of request.
I think I will PM Mal for help on the wording of Stakeback, I had an idea but couldn"t put it into words. Would it make a difference to your decision as to back me or not?
Buy-in for the Vegas events - tbh I can"t remember (must have been something to do with the company I was keeping in Vegas ;) ). They were around the $100-$200 mark IIRC.
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I will take 5% also please Stuart. Good luck
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I will take 5% also please Stuart. Good luck
Many Thanks Mary.
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I am NOT offering % in 1 of the tournaments. This is a package of 2 which I believe is better value for the backer....what does this bit mean pls?? ???
Are u offering stakeback first before u take % of winnings and makeup if were to back in future stakes?
Also what were buy-ins for Vegas events pls bud?
Suz and Mal are correct regarding the 2 tournament package. Variance is slightly reduced and I am not offering the opportunity to back me in one and not the other.
I don"t consider makeup to be appropriate for this type of request.
I think I will PM Mal for help on the wording of Stakeback, I had an idea but couldn"t put it into words. Would it make a difference to your decision as to back me or not?
Buy-in for the Vegas events - tbh I can"t remember (must have been something to do with the company I was keeping in Vegas ;) ). They were around the $100-$200 mark IIRC.
Cheers for info and yes would make a difference if offering stakeback or not!!
Not quite sure why dont think makeup is appropriate.....its quite a high risk investment so would definitely sway investors if u were to offer it....I know I certainly would.
TBH dont think will be taking piece though as seems a massive jump up from your ABI.
Not trying to flame just giving my honest opinion and help people with the requests.
Sure you will sell it out so glgl.
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5% Please Stuart
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Many Thanks Wayne, much appreciated.
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I am NOT offering % in 1 of the tournaments. This is a package of 2 which I believe is better value for the backer....what does this bit mean pls?? ???
Are u offering stakeback first before u take % of winnings and makeup if were to back in future stakes?
Also what were buy-ins for Vegas events pls bud?
Suz and Mal are correct regarding the 2 tournament package. Variance is slightly reduced and I am not offering the opportunity to back me in one and not the other.
I don"t consider makeup to be appropriate for this type of request.
I think I will PM Mal for help on the wording of Stakeback, I had an idea but couldn"t put it into words. Would it make a difference to your decision as to back me or not?
Buy-in for the Vegas events - tbh I can"t remember (must have been something to do with the company I was keeping in Vegas ;) ). They were around the $100-$200 mark IIRC.
Cheers for info and yes would make a difference if offering stakeback or not!!
Not quite sure why dont think makeup is appropriate.....its quite a high risk investment so would definitely sway investors if u were to offer it....I know I certainly would.
TBH dont think will be taking piece though as seems a massive jump up from your ABI.
Not trying to flame just giving my honest opinion and help people with the requests.
Sure you will sell it out so glgl.
I didnt say this in my OP as I am guessing people who invest in me will know me and my game, however....
I have played 2 WSOP events @ $1500, both of which were paid from local casino winnings (cash and tourneys). A report of one can be found in WPT magazine as I was sat next to Jon Young. In the other I was 400th from 3000+ runners, just missing the cash. I have also played the DTD £330 a few times, once when staked and others when satellitted in. So I don"t see these as a jump up from ABI.
Make-up is not going to happen, its not for me and I wouldn"t want staking under those circumstances. I have already commented on stakeback.
I don"t see your comments as flaming so no worries.
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Myles I think you are getting confused and overcomplicating the whole thing. Best if you have general queries to put in general staking discussion.
However as general points:
You wouldn"t expect make up on a short term stake with multiple backers imo
When expressed as a premium I don"t believe stake-back is appropriate
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OP amended to include statement on make-up and stake-back.
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5% for sure.
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I"ll back a Scotsman ;D
5% please Stuart
cheers
Ian
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5% for sure.
Thanks Glenn.
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I"ll back a Scotsman ;D
5% please Stuart
cheers
Ian
Thanks Ian.
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30% sold 20% still available. [edited following 5% to Brendan]
5% = £52.50
2.5%= £26.25
I need to sell at least another 5% to make this possible.
I know there is plenty time before these events but please book your % now so as not to miss out.
Payment will be required before the events, not now.
Thanks
Stuart
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5% sold to Brendan Byrne.
Thanks Brendan.
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5% please!
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5% please!
Wiiiiiii - does this come with free run good tokens?
Many thanks Stu
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10% sold to friends via facebook.
Only 5% left ;D
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5% please!
Wiiiiiii - does this come with free run good tokens?
Many thanks Stu
I dont seem to get round to using them so why not :D
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I take last 5% if still available. PM me on facebook. Paul Gupta
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I take last 5% if still available. PM me on facebook. Paul Gupta
Many Thanks Paul.
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OP updated to include payments to date
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funds shipped. Enjoy the events and run good please.
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Good luck with these Stu, all the best mate ;)
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funds shipped. Enjoy the events and run good please.
received with thanks. OP updated
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Good luck with these Stu, all the best mate ;)
Thanks Grant
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Payment received from Ian, OP updated,
Thanks.
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Payment received from Glenn.
Thanks
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Due to one of the stakers having to pull out I now have up to 5% available for anyone that can pay me before midnight Wednesday.
5% = £52.50
2.5% = £26.25
I am happy to take the extra 5% myself if no one wants it.
BTW - I am registered for Friday for the Goliath event and will be updating on twitter "Stuart J Oliver"
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Hi Stuart, could I take 2.5% if still available??
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Hi Stuart, could I take 2.5% if still available??
Booked, thanks Adrian.
Will PM bank details
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2.5% available at £26.25 - any last minute takers?
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Payment received from Adi.
OP updated
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I"ll take the last 2.5%. PM me your bank details and I"ll send the money tonight.
Good luck!
Joe.
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I"ll take the last 2.5%. PM me your bank details and I"ll send the money tonight.
Good luck!
Joe.
Booked. PM on the way.
Thanks
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Payment received from Joe, thanks.
OP updated.
SOLD OUT & ALL PAID ;D
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Hopefully all backers have either kept upto date on Twitter or spoke at DTD and will be aware that we didn"t cash at the Goliath. :(
The re-entry certainly changed the dynamics of the game with 30BB stacks being played as shortstacks!
I feel I adjusted well, but raising 5x with AA in early position didn"t scare off 4 callers, 1 of which had the monster that is K2o which works well on a board of K 7 2 >:(
I grinded back up but never really got going. Eventually busted out on Level 11 when pushing a 10BB stack.
A good experience of super deep stack poker and together with the APAT ECOAP games I feel confident going into the big one next weekend. I have registered for Day 1B (Friday) and once again will be updating on twitter during breaks.
Good luck us. ;D
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Very best of luck Stu, another FT would work well for the beer funds :)