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Poker Forum => Staker Exchange => Topic started by: suzanne on September 18, 2012, 01:57:25 AM
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I will be playing the OneWay Poker game on October 6th at Bristol Gala. Buyin is £150+15 and has a structure similar to Apat games and looking to sell 40%.
Dont ask me for stats and links, my online history on most sites is not good and I would rather not make public just how bad they are :)
I play on average 2 or 3 live Apat games a year and the odd Bristol Meetup game (I dont get out a lot) but do okay.
I plan to take 1 crack at an online sat as they are £9 rebuys (£27 min) with my 60%, and buyin if I dont get there... but that is irrelevant really.
No mark up but should (when) I cash I would expect stakers to contribute towards the apat 1 %.
Max 5% per person with first share going to mousebob as we always swap and 2nd to Rodders as he was promised a share in my first live stake.
This is my first request and although I am hoping it will stop me making those marginal calls ...it might not ;)
5% = £8.25
First 6 requests are in.
Mousebob Paid
AARoddersAA Paid
MintTrav Paid
Sugar_Free Paid
Josharp01 Paid
Curlarge Paid
AJDUK Paid
Phil_TC Paid
Sir Percival Paid
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Have you won any tournaments lately?
5% please.
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Have you won any tournaments lately?
5% please.
Blatant brag :) I hope one day to be as good as you babe x
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Have you won any tournaments lately?
5% please.
Blatant brag :) I hope one day to be as good as you babe x
LOL, you know I was referring to your 1/164 a couple of weeks ago in DTD.
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Have you won any tournaments lately?
5% please.
Blatant brag :) I hope one day to be as good as you babe x
LOL, you know I was referring to your 1/164 a couple of weeks ago in DTD.
It was 1/165 but whose counting ;) Congrats on tonights win...gonna be chasing your butt x
PS I will be giving you a head start as wont be play tomorrow x
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
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That is true but, on the other hand, she has put zero mark-up for a live tournament, whereas some others have included a chunky mark-up for on-line games, where there are no added costs involved. In Dan"s case, we were happy to buy his EV, based on his extraordinary previous results, but he wasn"t the only one. And Suzanne has EV, having gone deep in numerous tournaments and recently winning from 165 starters.
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
It"s absolutely fine to include this in a staking request. It is then the responsibility of the backers to decide if to take a piece or not based on the request. In this case Suzanne has stated the terms up front which she is well within her right to do. I see no problem with it and it should be taken into account when deciding weather to be involved or not.
5% please Suzanne.
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5% please
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5% please :)
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5% if it"s not too late please
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5% please Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz xx
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
It"s absolutely fine to include this in a staking request. It is then the responsibility of the backers to decide if to take a piece or not based on the request. In this case Suzanne has stated the terms up front which she is well within her right to do. I see no problem with it and it should be taken into account when deciding weather to be involved or not.
5% please Suzanne.
Effectively selling at .01 markup seems pretty fair.
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
Congrats Miles you have now succeeded is pissing off 75% of the APAT community over the past 6 months. Good Work. Why don"t you have a day off from your pathetic little jibes all over the forum? Oh and yes I know I could have sent this as a private PM but I wanted everyone else to see it.
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
Congrats Miles My ills you have now succeeded is pissing off 75% of the APAT community over the past 6 months. Good Work. Why don"t you have a day off from your pathetic little jibes all over the forum? Oh and yes I know I could have sent this as a private PM but I wanted everyone else to see it.
FYP
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
Congrats Miles My ills you have now succeeded is pissing off 75% of the APAT community over the past 6 months. Good Work. Why don"t you have a day off from your pathetic little jibes all over the forum? Oh and yes I know I could have sent this as a private PM but I wanted everyone else to see it.
FYP
;D
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
Not sure why I put it in Myles. Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
I suppose my thinking at the time was that if I was not asking for a markup then it would only be fair that backers pay towards the share. Seems a bit silly now on reflection but there ya go..done it now :/
Thanks guys for the staking, pm on the way.
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5% please Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz xx
Cool - gl gl gl matey ;D
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................& for that reason
I"m in.
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
Not sure why I put it in Myles. Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
I suppose my thinking at the time was that if I was not asking for a markup then it would only be fair that backers pay towards the share. Seems a bit silly now on reflection but there ya go..done it now :/
Thanks guys for the staking, pm on the way.
Again, the 1% thing is fine. Not silly at all, not sure why would would not think it is :)
The same way as selling at a markup is fine
The response you get will tell you if people think it represents value or not.
Anyway will ship to you via Pokerstar"s tonight
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Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
Just to clarify, in this instance APAT's share would be £16 (1% of the 40%).
EDIT: That"s right isn"t it? Starting to doubt myself now
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Suzanne....would take a % but totally dont agree with your request for stakers to contribute to your 1% APAT payment ??? ???.......no other stake request has asked for this including myself in the 2 that I have run!!
Its part of the cost of achieving backing and imho is totally the responsibility of the player being backed.
Not sure why I put it in Myles. Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
I suppose my thinking at the time was that if I was not asking for a markup then it would only be fair that backers pay towards the share. Seems a bit silly now on reflection but there ya go..done it now :/
Thanks guys for the staking, pm on the way.
np Suzanne.....just my feeling/opinion on it......sold it out anyways so glgl with it TID.....hopefully get involved in the next one u run
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Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
Just to clarify, in this instance APAT's share would be £16 (1% of the 40%).
EDIT: That"s right isn"t it? Starting to doubt myself now
1% of £4k would be £40, divided into 20 x 5% which is £2 per 5%... I think. Lets just scrap the idea and you can all buy me a drink if I win the thing ;D ;D ;D
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Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
Just to clarify, in this instance APAT's share would be £16 (1% of the 40%).
EDIT: That"s right isn"t it? Starting to doubt myself now
1% of £4k would be £40, divided into 20 x 5% which is £2 per 5%... I think. Lets just scrap the idea and you can all buy me a drink if I win the thing ;D ;D ;D
Suzanne I don"t understand why you feel driven to change it. Nothing wrong with the original request, esp at 1:1.
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Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
Just to clarify, in this instance APAT's share would be £16 (1% of the 40%).
EDIT: That"s right isn"t it? Starting to doubt myself now
1% of £4k would be £40, divided into 20 x 5% which is £2 per 5%... I think. Lets just scrap the idea and you can all buy me a drink if I win the thing ;D ;D ;D
And you"ve sold 8 lots of 5% which is £16 to APAT
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The response you get will tell you if people think it represents value or not.
This
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Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
Just to clarify, in this instance APAT's share would be £16 (1% of the 40%).
EDIT: That"s right isn"t it? Starting to doubt myself now
1% of £4k would be £40, divided into 20 x 5% which is £2 per 5%... I think. Lets just scrap the idea and you can all buy me a drink if I win the thing ;D ;D ;D
And you"ve sold 8 lots of 5% which is £16 to APAT
Yep...just got to win it now :)
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Top prize is around £4k and should I win it I would be more than happy to give Apat £40.
Just to clarify, in this instance APAT's share would be £16 (1% of the 40%).
EDIT: That"s right isn"t it? Starting to doubt myself now
1% of £4k would be £40, divided into 20 x 5% which is £2 per 5%... I think. Lets just scrap the idea and you can all buy me a drink if I win the thing ;D ;D ;D
Suzanne I don"t understand why you feel driven to change it. Nothing wrong with the original request, esp at 1:1.
Why don"t we stick with the original plan AND buy you a drink if you win the thing - seems pretty fair as I am pretty sure we were going to buy you at least one anyway in those circumstances !!!!!
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1 sat played, 1 seat won
Hopefully its a good omen ;D
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I"ll take 5% if there is any left.
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I"ll take some if theres any left Suz.. if there is any? x
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In Summary:
Much love for Suzanne, Not so much love for Myles.
GL Suzanne.
I might see if I can fit this event in :-)
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I"ll take 5% if there is any left.
There is one space left Stu so yes you are in :)
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I"ll take some if theres any left Suz.. if there is any? x
Tough one as I really should stick to the 40% but how can I say no to someone as cute as you :)
As I am now freerolling why not xxx
45% gone and now SOLD OUT
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In Summary:
Much love for Suzanne, Not so much love for Myles.
GL Suzanne.
I might see if I can fit this event in :-)
Im sure Myles is a lovely chap and I look forward to meeting him at a live game soon :)
Hope to see you there Jason x
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I"ll take some if theres any left Suz.. if there is any? x
Tough one as I really should stick to the 40% but how can I say no to someone as cute as you :)
As I am now freerolling why not xxx
45% gone and now SOLD OUT
:-* shipped Suz
ps. Specsavers is the answer :-*
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I"m sure myles is fine. Said tongue firmly in cheek.
I"m officially playing the one way, so see you there.
I"m even gonna try and place some action on the boards. Nothing like having a piece of rail action to add to the flo.
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I"m sure myles is fine. Said tongue firmly in cheek.
I"m officially playing the one way, so see you there.
I"m even gonna try and place some action on the boards. Nothing like having a piece of rail action to add to the flo.
For obvious reason....I am out ;)
Look forward to seeing you there x
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Back home and busto the last hand of the evening...sorry guys :(
Blinds were 1600/800 ante 200, I am in bb with 19k back, serial utg raiser does his usual min raise and it folds round to me. I shove allin hoping for a fold as he had around 40k and figured he is only calling with a monster, he did call however with 55 and my J 10 missed it all.
The whole game was a total struggle, big hands AK/AQ I had to fold to missed flops when there was a raise/reraises before me. I had aces once and all folded to my raise, hit quads once which doubled me up when short but mostly I was just card dead.
One hand I would like some advice on.
First level 50/25 I raise it utg to 150 with KK, 3 callers and bb makes up. Flop is 763 rainbow, I bet 550, folds round and bb calls (alarm bells). Turn is a Jack, 4 suits so no flush draw, I bet 750...now why I bet 750 I just don"t know, normally I would bet something like 1200 or more but I didn"t :/ He then raised to 2200....so what would you do?
I folded. I still cant make up my mind if I did the right thing or not.
The experiment of being staked was to try and play the best I could and I dont think I made any mistakes apart from that one maybe ^^^, the cards were just unkind. Thank you to all who gave their support and I will cya all at the bar sometime soooon.
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I started on the same table as Suzanne, pleasure meeting you. I must say that you missed the flop st least 3/4 times when you had bigs aces that would have been good to hit.
We had a very good starting table, with lots of callers and re-raisers. Would have been nice if we"d got the hands and hit the flops. The cards were indeed
I don"t remember the hand but the KK had is a fold - 2 pairs, sets and st8"s are all probable. I think you saved money - unless they put you on somethting like AK, but I don"t think this was case given how you described the betting.
UL and WP.
You went futher than me... :-)
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Maybe check back turn and go for value/bluff catch on the river if you were bet folding the turn?
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I don"t think you should call, Suzanne. As played, he has c/c the flop and c/r the turn. Remember it was a 5-way flop, so more likely your monster pair will be outdrawn. And he was happy to go to the flop 5-way oop, so it"s hard to put him on that over-pair that you are beating. If you call, he will have caused himself to go to the river oop in a huge pot. It doesn"t look good for you.
I think there is more to this hand than that, though. What would you want him to do when you make those bets of 550 and, say, 1200 - call or fold? Second to act out of five with one big pair on a nothing flop that has hardly any draws, you are either way ahead or way behind and likely to stay whichever way it is. There are a few ways that someone could overtake you on the turn or river, but not many. This isn"t the time for big bets. Betting half the pot or less on the flop might keep weaker hands in, and cost you less if you are behind. On the turn, we then have the same scenario, but with a less-inflated pot, so if we bet or call, it will be for a smaller amount. A 1200 bet here would be too big imo (as played on the flop). Your 750 is much better (possibly with a check behind on the river), or you could check behind on the turn and value-bet the river or call if he bets it. If you are winning I can"t see you getting 3 streets of value here.
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UL Suzanne, better luck next time. Terrible call by utg at home time.
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UL Suzanne, better luck next time. Terrible call by utg at home time.
I thought so too but tbf he read me right, it was the last hand of the night and picking up that pot would have made me feel much better about going back to Day 2 with more than 9 bbs, just unlucky I missed...did sweat a bit though with an open ender by the turn :)
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Maybe check back turn and go for value/bluff catch on the river if you were bet folding the turn?
I thought about that but wanted to know where i was. In hindsight that would have been a better plan.
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I don"t think you should call, Suzanne. As played, he has c/c the flop and c/r the turn. Remember it was a 5-way flop, so more likely your monster pair will be outdrawn. And he was happy to go to the flop 5-way oop, so it"s hard to put him on that over-pair that you are beating. If you call, he will have caused himself to go to the river oop in a huge pot. It doesn"t look good for you.
I think there is more to this hand than that, though. What would you want him to do when you make those bets of 550 and, say, 1200 - call or fold? Second to act out of five with one big pair on a nothing flop that has hardly any draws, you are either way ahead or way behind and likely to stay whichever way it is. There are a few ways that someone could overtake you on the turn or river, but not many. This isn"t the time for big bets. Betting half the pot or less on the flop might keep weaker hands in, and cost you less if you are behind. On the turn, we then have the same scenario, but with a less-inflated pot, so if we bet or call, it will be for a smaller amount. A 1200 bet here would be too big imo (as played on the flop). Your 750 is much better (possibly with a check behind on the river), or you could check behind on the turn and value-bet the river or call if he bets it. If you are winning I can"t see you getting 3 streets of value here.
I never thought at any stage he had a big hand. My first thought was he has 45 and flopped the nuts. If he had a big hand he would have reraised pre. Only other possibility was that he had AJ/KJ/QJ and called because everyone else folded to see the turn but even that didnt make sense, why reraise when he hit the jack as i could possibly have QQ/KK/AA. I think he had at least 2 pair.
As you said John I am either miles in front or way behind, the 750 was a feeler bet to find out where I was as it just felt bad. My thoughts at the time though were ....was that bet too small and he maybe bullied me off the pot. Us ladies get a lot of that you know ;)