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Poker Forum => Staker Exchange => Topic started by: Waz1892 on November 24, 2012, 16:36:43 PM
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Hi,
Actually nervous to what the reaction will be, and kind of going in a little blind to what I"m offering as I"m not 100% I fully understand the remit of the expectations.
But I"ve been in discussions with a valued member of APAT (he/she can name themselves if they wish) but their help and support has been invaluable to get me to this point! So thank-you!!
Please do let me know if I"ve made any mistakes, if my offer is unrealistic in any manner, as I"m more than happy to adjust, delete take advise and try again. I"ve wanted to do a thread like this for ages, but kept bottling it...so I"m diving in and seeing if i can swim..I"m looking for some people to provide the arm-bands!
My poker is OK, sometimes good, sometimes bad. Mainly online, but no volume of any note when comparing to others. I"m a a little bit of form, taking one of the NH bunch of five events and cashing in my first Genting MTT last night. If I concentrate I feel confident in going well. My lack of concentration is what is annoying me, so I"m thinking if its like this, then I"ll force myself to concentrate and not get distracted or click the raise, just in case...its a mind set thing I feel rather than a general lack of knowledge/skill....these are limited at the best of time, so I ned to focus so I play the best i can - when i do i feel I"m ok.
Warren Fenwick, APAT alias, Waz1892, Stars - Waz1892, APAT.co.uk xxWaz1892xx
18.30pm - MM97 Sunday storm ($11)
19.00pm - The bigger ($11)
19.30pm - MM98 Main Event ($22)
Looking to sell 100% of the above total of $44, so 10% = $4.40. I offering this at 90% to the backer, and any APAT % is taken from my 10%. Not sure what this works out like, but as I"m new to this, not got great stats and asking for 100% (if i don"t sell it all, I"m not able to play) but trying to make to heavy in favour of the stackers as that is fair.
I think the links will work, again I know they are not great!
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/Waz1892/poker/ratings/2996EB832B4E481CA96C78473C1A54DD.html?t=3
http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/PokerStars/players/Waz1892
Stars transfer only please if you have any wish to take a punt.
please comments, and tweaks, delete all welcomed - but be gentle! :)
GULP...going to click post....
Thanking the following people and confirming -
Fandango - 20% - paid
Chipaccrual 50% - paid
Phil TC - 10% -paid
Sharplea - 10% - paid
AAroddersAA -10% - paid
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20% please Warren ... Good luck to us and all backers, I"m sure you will sell out, your not asking for a fortune and any kind of deep run could be rewarded..
Will ship tommorow night when I can wrestle the laptop off the kids..
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Looking to sell 100% of the above total of $44, so 10% = $4.40. I offering this at 90% to the backer, and any APAT % is taken from my 10%.
Hi Waz.. not sure I understand this mate.. are you selling 100% or 90%.. and why would you want to sell so much? x
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Looking to sell 100% of the above total of $44, so 10% = $4.40. I offering this at 90% to the backer, and any APAT % is taken from my 10%.
Hi Waz.. not sure I understand this mate.. are you selling 100% or 90%.. and why would you want to sell so much? x
Sorry Phil, I"m looking to sell 100% of the buyin and the backers will get back 90% of any cash. I feel this is the best I can "get away with" due to my lack of volume and profit in MTT.
Until I can prove my worth I feel I need to earn a better % before I can ask for a better %.
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20% please Warren ... Good luck to us and all backers, I"m sure you will sell out, your not asking for a fortune and any kind of deep run could be rewarded..
Will ship tommorow night when I can wrestle the laptop off the kids..
My first "book" tytyty!
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I"ll take the rest please Waz, unless I get abuse from everyone for being greedy ;D
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I"ll take the rest please Waz, unless I get abuse from everyone for being greedy ;D
You"re being greedy "£$%^ &^%$* <<-- suitable abuse ;D
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I"ll take the rest please Waz, unless I get abuse from everyone for being greedy ;D
You"re being greedy "£$%^ &^%$* <<-- suitable abuse ;D
LOL, okay, I"ll have 50% then please. ;D
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lol.. as im not a
(http://moblog.net/media/r/a/r/rareaquaticbadger/im-a-bell-end.jpg)
I"ll take 10% please Waz x
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I"ll take the rest please Waz, unless I get abuse from everyone for being greedy ;D
You"re being greedy "£$%^ &^%$* <<-- suitable abuse ;D
LOL, okay, I"ll have 50% then please. ;D
50% it is then. Thankyou very much. Backed by management, can"t be a bad thing!
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10% Phil. Again appreicated
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I"m stunned 80% gone already.
As a result I wish to reserve 10% for the APAT player I mentioned in the OP.
I feel it would be wrong not to ensure they had an opportunity to buy due to the effort they made to get me here.
That was always the plan and simply never thought I"d get this response
So 10% reserved for him/her. I will pm to clarify before the night is out
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I make that 10%. Thank-you very much.
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cant thankyou all enough....I will do my bestest everest for us all.
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I make that 10%. Thank-you very much.
Sent $4.40 on stars to Waz1892
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Funds have been sent gl to us all :)
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I make that 10%. Thank-you very much.
Sent $4.40 on stars to Waz1892
received. ty.
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Funds have been sent gl to us all :)
cleared. ty. :)
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$22 shipped
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Will take 10% please if available.
Gl and ship the world.
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$22 shipped
received. many thanks.
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Will take 10% please if available.
Gl and ship the world.
thanks, if the APATer doesn"t wish to take up the 10% that ive reserved, or doesnt reply by midday, then consider it booked.
trust this is ok.
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Will take 10% please if available.
Gl and ship the world.
Sorry Dave, it"s not available :-) .
Honestly don"t know what you were worried about Waz, I have been messing about with PC"s for most of the day so had not seen the thread.
$4.40 shipped mate. Please come second in the Storm or Bigger $11. Win some mad $$$$$$
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Will take 10% please if available.
Gl and ship the world.
Sorry Dave, it"s not available :-) .
Honestly don"t know what you were worried about Waz, I have been messing about with PC"s for most of the day so had not seen the thread.
$4.40 shipped mate. Please come second in the Storm or Bigger $11. Win some mad $$$$$$
received. thanks, and you"ve been a star in your help.
Sorry Dave....but like the interest!
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So i fully understand, (and if I do, then oops to a degree - but its fine - all part of the learning curve)
For example -
I cash for a total of $100. as per my offer - 90/10% spilt in favour of the stakers.
Thus, $90 goes to the stakers, given dependant on % splits they"ve bought. 10% = $9.00. 20% = $18.00 etc.
I win the remainder of $10.
Of which 1% of what the stakers received goes to APAT as per T&c"s. $9.00
I close with $1.00?! ???
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Good luck Waz. In an attempt to be constructive, I wonder if selling 100% is the right thing to do here? Would you have been better off keeping at least 25% back for yourself - about ten bucks? I don"t see much potential for you to make much of a return here - if you cash for $1,000 you would bank $90.
If you were selling 100% I"d have recommended a 70/30 split or thereabouts and i reckon you"d have sold just as fast. I think you"ve been too generous as it stands and basically you"re playing 3 mtt"s with little prospect of making any decent return for yourself.
All the best from Glenn
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Good luck Waz. In an attempt to be constructive, I wonder if selling 100% is the right thing to do here? Would you have been better off keeping at least 25% back for yourself - about ten bucks? I don"t see much potential for you to make much of a return here - if you cash for $1,000 you would bank $90.
If you were selling 100% I"d have recommended a 70/30 split or thereabouts and i reckon you"d have sold just as fast. I think you"ve been too generous as it stands and basically you"re playing 3 mtt"s with little prospect of making any decent return for yourself.
All the best from Glenn
ty glen, and yes i agree looking at it that way. However it is for this very reason that i wanted to make it attractive as possible, with the knowledge i dont have a good record..so wouldn"t dare ask for 70/30 or such.
this was a feeler to see what would happen... ive sold out, so much more quicker than i ever thought, so it worked as its clearly an attractive offer, with low cost to the stakers...this was my intention...not to win a load for me.
If I prove myself then I could look to earn more respect and gain a better % of myself etc.
Step 1 - earn respect
Step 2 - get paid for the respect earnt
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We are in and raring to go.
good luck to all involved.....
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So i fully understand, (and if I do, then oops to a degree - but its fine - all part of the learning curve)
For example -
I cash for a total of $100. as per my offer - 90/10% spilt in favour of the stakers.
Thus, $90 goes to the stakers, given dependant on % splits they"ve bought. 10% = $9.00. 20% = $18.00 etc.
I win the remainder of $10.
Of which 1% of what the stakers received goes to APAT as per T&c"s. $9.00
I close with $1.00?! ???
1% of $90 is $0.90, so you would be left with $9.10.
As I see it, you have sold 90% at 1.11 (or a mark-up of 11%). Good luck with the tournaments. I hope you do end up sending $9 to APAT, cos that would mean a cash of $1,000.
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So i fully understand, (and if I do, then oops to a degree - but its fine - all part of the learning curve)
For example -
I cash for a total of $100. as per my offer - 90/10% spilt in favour of the stakers.
Thus, $90 goes to the stakers, given dependant on % splits they"ve bought. 10% = $9.00. 20% = $18.00 etc.
I win the remainder of $10.
Of which 1% of what the stakers received goes to APAT as per T&c"s. $9.00
I close with $1.00?! ???
1% of $90 is $0.90, so you would be left with $9.10.
As I see it, you have sold 90% at 1.11 (or a mark-up of 11%). Good luck with the tournaments. I hope you do end up sending $9 to APAT, cos that would mean a cash of $1,000.
Sorry John yes, 1% of $90, 0.90, not 10% of the $90...it was late! Certainly hope it ends at $9!
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We are off. I"ll do my upmost to keep everyone updated as best i can, as often as i can.
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SS - 15mins in, nothing of any note. won 2 hands! 5120 avg 5293. Players remaining 29180 (still in late reg time)
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SS - 1st break - 5658. Avg - 5514. Players remainng - 29636 (Lr period)
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SS - not a good 15-20mins. 3438 now. avg 5897. 31500 players remain
Bigger - 2225. avg 3233. 10895 players remain
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SS - back on track..2 raises to 400, i shoved with AQ for another 2.4k..called by a7
5350. avg 7738. 27033 players remain
bigger - 4075 - avg 3833. 11419 players remain
MMME -10858 - avg 10240. 42678 players remain
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Feel good so far. A couple of times I"ve asked myself what am I doing, what is the plan!..so certainly more focused already than maybe i would normally be!
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>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
SS - this hand is my exit hand
PokerStars Hand #89804783335: Tournament #2012110097, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (125/250) - 2012/11/25 15:07:13 ET
Table "2012110097 2284" 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: zizmo1986 (10974 in chips)
Seat 2: Klonthy (3257 in chips)
Seat 3: Smids (11710 in chips)
Seat 4: AuromAn (7612 in chips)
Seat 5: dimmmmi1 (10680 in chips)
Seat 6: Waz1892 (5537 in chips)
Seat 7: jbrasi (6575 in chips)
Seat 8: W.I.W.69 (4765 in chips)
Seat 9: Pramuk_BLN (5605 in chips)
zizmo1986: posts the ante 25
Klonthy: posts the ante 25
Smids: posts the ante 25
AuromAn: posts the ante 25
dimmmmi1: posts the ante 25
Waz1892: posts the ante 25
jbrasi: posts the ante 25
W.I.W.69: posts the ante 25
Pramuk_BLN: posts the ante 25
dimmmmi1: posts small blind 125
Waz1892: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Waz1892 [9s Ts]
jbrasi: raises 375 to 625
W.I.W.69: calls 625
Pramuk_BLN: folds
zizmo1986: calls 625
Klonthy: folds
Smids: calls 625
AuromAn: folds
dimmmmi1: folds
Waz1892: calls 375
*** FLOP *** [9d Th 5c]
Waz1892: bets 4887 and is all-in
jbrasi: folds
W.I.W.69: folds
zizmo1986: calls 4887
Smids: calls 4887
*** TURN *** [9d Th 5c] [Qc]
zizmo1986: bets 5437 and is all-in
Smids: folds
Uncalled bet (5437) returned to zizmo1986
*** RIVER *** [9d Th 5c Qc] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Waz1892: shows [9s Ts] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
zizmo1986: shows [Ac 9c] (a flush, Ace high)
zizmo1986 collected 18136 from pot
Waz1892 finished the tournament in 25484th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18136 | Rake 0
Board [9d Th 5c Qc 3c]
Seat 1: zizmo1986 showed [Ac 9c] and won (18136) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: Klonthy folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: Smids folded on the Turn
Seat 4: AuromAn (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: dimmmmi1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Waz1892 (big blind) showed [9s Ts] and lost with two pair, Tens and Nines
Seat 7: jbrasi folded on the Flop
Seat 8: W.I.W.69 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Pramuk_BLN folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
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The bigger - QQ raise 1, LP goes all in bar $5?!! Should i be calling?
I did.....Q on flop...got his last $5 obv...he has AA
Ace on turn.
down to 420
edit - all in with 420, A2...find A5.
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MMME left - :"( >:(
10908 avg 10691 47k players remain.
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MMME - 19k. Avg 10.9k
30/60 level. early raised to 150. i re-raise to 540. he re-pops to 1300, i 4bet with Kh Ks to 3900, we get it all in
KK vs AA (should I have known...cant fold KK can i? pre?
K on flop. ;D
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roller coaster so far already....madness really!
SS - 2 pair with 18k pot and lose to a river flush
Bigger - QQ va AA..hit me Q...he then hits his A
MMME - all in KK va AA..i hit my king!
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MMME - 21.6k. Avg - 12.1k. 44.9k players remain.
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MMME - 13.6k. Avg 13.1k. 43.1k players remain.
Lost 7k, could have saved myself prob 2300 of that.
raised with K4, first into the pot in MP. SB calls. Heads up
K 6 x flop. I bet, called.
6 turn. He checks, I bet he raises (i call the 2300) - He must have the 6?
River 4, giving me 2 pair..he goes all in - fold.
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MMME 15.6k Avg 15.8k..the odd pot here and there, nothing spectacular.
quite pleased at present, considering the first few hours was a bit mad.
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14.1k. Avg 19.8k. 30.6k players remain.
Too passive at the mo...time to gear change.
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14.1k. Avg 19.8k. 30.6k players remain.
Too passive at the mo...time to gear change.
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next hand i get AK...raise 1500 (blinds 250/500) folded to SB, who shoves for 10k. I call. Wrong?
AK vs 44...which holds
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We are done people. Very sorry for no return.
Exit hand 6bb, 10c 5c ,vs 99.
Some heavy hands early on, and some green rubs on both sises i guess overall. Certainly more focused.
Very much appreicate the opportunity and backing. Thank-you.
First time requested, hope it was seen as a good option for the backers, and that the updated were what is to be expected.
Maybe another day...........