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Title: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 20:47:56 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 20:49:26 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 20:57:36 PM
Clarifications:

- Events will start at 2.30pm (tbc) on a Saturday and 1.30pm (tbc) on a Sunday (depending on other events).

- Pot Limit Omaha side events will take place on Sunday"s with a buy in of £25 + £5.

- Where feasible satellites and direct buy in will be offered via APAT or partner poker clients, coming off sale a minimum of two weeks prior to the National Amateur Championship.  Seat reservation will be offered for a £5 fee via Eventbrite and all income from Eventbrite will be targeted directly towards blogging/updating and staff/costs.  Seats may also be available at the venue on the opening day of play.

- International team captains will be announced shortly for the home countries, to enable planning for the season.  Team shirts will be chargeable at cost price to players selected to represent their country.

Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2013, 21:07:10 PM
DUBLIN!!!

& VEGAS!!!!

& PRAGUE!!!!!!!


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--Ll3uDgHsdM/T3-mejMyIcI/AAAAAAAACCA/zvcE0w235n0/s1600/Mr.+Happy+Man.jpg)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 14, 2013, 21:11:01 PM
No wonder it took a while to get it together. Epic schedule, congratulations to all involved.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2013, 21:12:03 PM
& ASPERS LONDON

....AND PLO8!

My cup runneth over.

Des....we"re not worthy!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: amcgrath1uk on June 14, 2013, 21:13:01 PM
Errr wow. Think that"s all I need to say..

Now I need to work out what I can go to :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: amcgrath1uk on June 14, 2013, 21:15:49 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on June 14, 2013, 21:16:21 PM

No wonder it took a while to get it together. Epic schedule, congratulations to all involved.


+1
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Scousebill on June 14, 2013, 21:19:55 PM

Errr wow. Think that"s all I need to say..

Now I need to work out what I can go to :)


I need to get out of work to see what I can go to....
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: adilong1 on June 14, 2013, 21:21:08 PM
OHHHH Prague, could be messy  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Waz1892 on June 14, 2013, 21:22:41 PM


No wonder it took a while to get it together. Epic schedule, congratulations to all involved.


+1


No wonder it took a while to get it together. Epic schedule, congratulations to all involved.


+1


+1. super line up.  Hope to make a few this season.  
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2013, 21:25:18 PM
Des...can you move the Vegas event?...We have a bar crawl planned for that day!

:)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: cuzza23 on June 14, 2013, 21:25:55 PM
Better get the passport renewed then, happy days ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: MintTrav on June 14, 2013, 21:32:43 PM

Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 21:36:56 PM

Des...can you move the Vegas event?...We have a bar crawl planned for that day!

:)


We might need to run it over several "venues"!  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Delboy on June 14, 2013, 21:37:08 PM
Does the Cash Tour carry POY points?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 21:38:16 PM


Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Jon MW on June 14, 2013, 21:39:27 PM



Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2013, 21:40:21 PM


Des...can you move the Vegas event?...We have a bar crawl planned for that day!

:)


We might need to run it over several "venues"!  ;)


"Hello, Front Desk..yes, this is Mr Duffy in the God Almighty Suite....could you order me 100 cabs? Where to?,...We"re heading over to Frankie"s Tiki Room."

"Yes really, I"ve offered to get the first round in."

"Oh, and I"d like a group discount on those cabs please!"
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 21:40:40 PM

Does the Cash Tour carry POY points?


This one is to be finalised Del.  We"re pulling together a Cash Tour landing page which will have all of the answers, will be up next weekend.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 21:41:49 PM



Des...can you move the Vegas event?...We have a bar crawl planned for that day!

:)


We might need to run it over several "venues"!  ;)


"Hello, Front Desk..yes, this is Mr Duffy in the God Almighty Suite....could you order me 100 cabs? Where to?,...We"re heading over to Frankie"s Tiki Room."

"Yes really, I"ve offered to get the first round in."

"Oh, and I"d like a group discount on those cabs please!"


You"re missing a trick...we"re holding the event in the cabs.  Very slow levels ftw!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2013, 21:43:10 PM




Des...can you move the Vegas event?...We have a bar crawl planned for that day!

:)


We might need to run it over several "venues"!  ;)


"Hello, Front Desk..yes, this is Mr Duffy in the God Almighty Suite....could you order me 100 cabs? Where to?,...We"re heading over to Frankie"s Tiki Room."

"Yes really, I"ve offered to get the first round in."

"Oh, and I"d like a group discount on those cabs please!"


You"re missing a trick...we"re holding the event in the cabs.  Very slow levels ftw!


Only if we get longhauled.

NO TUNNEL!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 21:44:47 PM




Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?


If you"ve reserved the main, or already qualified, you wouldn"t have to pay any side event reservation fees.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2013, 21:47:04 PM





Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?


If you"ve reserved the main, or already qualified, you wouldn"t have to pay any side event reservation fees.



Not to kick anything off...where"s the button! :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Jon MW on June 14, 2013, 21:47:20 PM





Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?


If you"ve reserved the main, or already qualified, you wouldn"t have to pay any side event reservation fees.



Having only 1 reservation for the whole of the WCOAP made sense - but I thought it was worth checking/clarifying as it"s in 3 distinct groups.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: bigalhx3 on June 14, 2013, 21:50:17 PM
The Season Seven Champion Of Champions event is it just for champions in season seven
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: MintTrav on June 14, 2013, 21:52:51 PM



Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Ahh, I see. Thought it meant something else.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 14, 2013, 21:53:07 PM

The Season Seven Champion Of Champions event is it just for champions in season seven


Correct
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: jbworldwide on June 14, 2013, 21:55:44 PM
Well there is no way i can make all that, unless I bink tonight ;)

Congrats on the tour, I think I"ll be lucky to get to 10% of it....
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 21:56:14 PM

The Season Seven Champion Of Champions event is it just for champions in season seven


For live and online main event champions Al, yes.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on June 14, 2013, 21:56:49 PM


The Season Seven Champion Of Champions event is it just for champions in season seven


Correct


Damn came a season too late.. :"( :"(
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: hi_am_chris on June 14, 2013, 22:00:23 PM
you could have had 2 seats in it carl :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Santino67 on June 14, 2013, 22:04:58 PM
Logistical nightmare, just amazing you"ve pulled this together  8)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: ayresi on June 14, 2013, 22:07:12 PM
looking forward to s7 awesome schedule top bombing ::)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dougal7878 on June 14, 2013, 22:08:22 PM
Nice one fellas, great job with all the events.......now I"ll have to start being really nice to the wife!! See you all very soon
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 22:10:56 PM






Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?


If you"ve reserved the main, or already qualified, you wouldn"t have to pay any side event reservation fees.



Having only 1 reservation for the whole of the WCOAP made sense - but I thought it was worth checking/clarifying as it"s in 3 distinct groups.


To be clear, if a players is committed to being at the venue, then they would only have to pay one reservation fee.  So consider it one reservation fee per venue Jon.  That avoids the previous issues.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 22:13:17 PM
Thanks for all the positive comments guys.  We"ll be adding a new APAT landing page to the main site over the weekend, featuring simple messages and buttons that we hope will encourage new players to take part in our schedule.  I like to think it represents a recreational player"s summer in Vegas.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Jon MW on June 14, 2013, 22:14:03 PM







Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?


If you"ve reserved the main, or already qualified, you wouldn"t have to pay any side event reservation fees.



Having only 1 reservation for the whole of the WCOAP made sense - but I thought it was worth checking/clarifying as it"s in 3 distinct groups.


To be clear, if a players is committed to being at the venue, then they would only have to pay one reservation fee.  So consider it one reservation fee per venue Jon.  That avoids the previous issues.


That"s why I queried that one in particular, the "other" event is a £200 event; isn"t it likely that there will be a large disparity between the number of people who will want to play the £50 WCOAP event - but not the £200 one?

Hence, logically, doesn"t that make it a £50 + £5 + £5 event for those people?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: gerry5421 on June 14, 2013, 22:18:24 PM
Fri 28 Feb 14     LPPL Festival of Pub Poker     4     Various       Pontins, Southport
Sat 01 Mar 14     WCOAP #1 NLHE Championship     1     £50 + £5     Aspers, Newcastle
Sun 02 Mar 14     WCOAP #2 Shootout Championship     1     £50 + £5     Aspers, Newcastle

I know not much info out on the LPPL stuff yet ,but is this the same weekend ?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 22:23:47 PM








Sun 30 Mar 14   WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship  



What does this involve please?


2 game mixed John....round of Hold'em, round of PLO.


Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?


If you"ve reserved the main, or already qualified, you wouldn"t have to pay any side event reservation fees.



Having only 1 reservation for the whole of the WCOAP made sense - but I thought it was worth checking/clarifying as it"s in 3 distinct groups.


To be clear, if a players is committed to being at the venue, then they would only have to pay one reservation fee.  So consider it one reservation fee per venue Jon.  That avoids the previous issues.


That"s why I queried that one in particular, the "other" event is a £200 event; isn"t it likely that there will be a large disparity between the number of people who will want to play the £50 WCOAP event - but not the £200 one?

Hence, logically, doesn"t that make it a £50 + £5 + £5 event for those people?


It may well do Jon, but that"s a debate that took place over 15 or so pages on its own thread.  The variables of that debate haven"t changed, they are well aired on all sides.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 22:29:10 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: jacklevel06 on June 14, 2013, 22:30:50 PM
Vegas , November, Caesars . Defending champ, retirement over.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: lpgn on June 14, 2013, 22:31:19 PM
What a season in store,probably won"t able to make them all as will need one weekend to sort out divorce procedures  :D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Semtex on June 14, 2013, 22:31:43 PM
Prague and Vegas were already on my calendar for 2013, for the Venetian Festival end of October....might now have to extend my stay to play the APAT, and Prague in December is a target for team blue blood and the Eureka tour/EPT, N1 :)
Also very pleased to see a PLO8 event on the calendar too, you can deffo book me in for that one!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: gerry5421 on June 14, 2013, 22:44:17 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Hammerite on June 14, 2013, 22:44:55 PM

What a season in store,probably won"t able to make them all as will need one weekend to sort out divorce procedures  :D


Simple, take the Mrs on a second honeymoon to Vegas, but dont book the room next to Paul Gildea unless you bring your ear defenders, oh hang on a minute I am sharing with him :"(
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Kronsdat on June 14, 2013, 22:45:15 PM
Nice one Des and team! ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on June 14, 2013, 22:54:03 PM
Awesome schedule, loads of choice, and I wish I could make them all.

If i make Vegas I promise to actually be on time for the tournament this time round  ;)

and ooo ooo oooo Frank"s kiki bar    UMMMM BONGO .... just need someone to be having a wedding now and it"ll be like APAT does Vegas the return :D



Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Scousebill on June 14, 2013, 22:56:46 PM
For people like me who struggle to travel....

Online Comp dates....?????
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 14, 2013, 23:00:03 PM


If i make Vegas I promise to actually be on time for the tournament this time round  ;)

and ooo ooo oooo Frank"s kiki bar    UMMMM BONGO ...



Funny you should say that: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=11914.msg212748#msg212748
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 14, 2013, 23:10:36 PM

For people like me who struggle to travel....

Online Comp dates....?????


To follow Bill, we thought we"d focus on live tonight.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: suzanne on June 15, 2013, 00:13:50 AM
Amazing schedule, still trying to take it all in. Hotels booked for Coventry, Cardiff and Nottingham so far  ;D

Prague looks interesting mmmmmm

Well done guys!!!

Finally a Bristol game too woohooo, not sure how to qualify but im sure that will all be explained :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: samson on June 15, 2013, 08:24:39 AM
Love that you picked a Vegas date when I will be in town, awesome.

Don"t suppose any dates will be added down South
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 15, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Fantastic schedule, and more breaking ground. Congratulations APAT!!!

Only gripe - I can"t afford the foreign events, which means there"s nothing for me for five months between August and February. Hey ho - can"t wait for Coventry now!

Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 15, 2013, 10:35:07 AM
Read this on phone last night and reading again now.

Initial thought was the same as Steve above, however I can afford the foreign trips but can"t afford the shooping bill that comes with it.  :o

Already working hard on a pass for Vegas but I need help!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: CincinnatiKid on June 15, 2013, 10:45:07 AM
Another fantastic schedule and great work from Des, Leigh and team.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 15, 2013, 10:52:17 AM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 15, 2013, 10:55:30 AM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: mylesfdo on June 15, 2013, 11:19:55 AM


Don"t suppose any dates will be added down South


+1......great schedule guys but seems that emphasis is for players North of London and for those of us living down South that cannot always travel for 2-3 days its quite hard to find event that can get to :(....could you not offer more at Aspers London rather than just the £200 NLHE and Mixed Events??

Not having a pop as I understand the work that needs to have gone in for all this to be arranged and that you need to cater for all players.....just my tuppence worth of observations!!

Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on June 15, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
Exciting schedule guys.

1 tip - I was in Prague at more or less the same time last year and it"s bloody cold.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: duke3016 on June 15, 2013, 12:12:11 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 15, 2013, 12:14:07 PM

Fantastic schedule, and more breaking ground. Congratulations APAT!!!

Only gripe - I can"t afford the foreign events, which means there"s nothing for me for five months between August and February. Hey ho - can"t wait for Coventry now!


September - Bristol
November - Glasgow (far but not foreign...no matter what others think)
and since Stoke is 1st Feb I think you"re exaggerating a bit. :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: ian.ski309 on June 15, 2013, 14:14:09 PM
..great schedule guys but seems that emphasis is for players North of London and for those of us living down South that cannot always travel for 2-3 days its quite hard to find event that can get to :(  


Nothing in the North West since Season 5  :( Better make sure I get the car serviced  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 15, 2013, 15:08:03 PM


Fantastic schedule, and more breaking ground. Congratulations APAT!!!

Only gripe - I can"t afford the foreign events, which means there"s nothing for me for five months between August and February. Hey ho - can"t wait for Coventry now!


September - Bristol
November - Glasgow (far but not foreign...no matter what others think)
and since Stoke is 1st Feb I think you"re exaggerating a bit. :)



November Glasgow is a flight away - so no diff between that and Prague in that respect, so yes it"s a foreign event, and unaffordable for me.

Yes Stoke is Feb 1st - and my post stated February.... not sure what you"re trying to say by questioning that one.

So, between Sep7 and Feb1 there is a gap where the events are all on foreign soil (they require flights), and despite what you think about my exaggeration of timescale, it is still five months (which is what I claimed it to be in my post)

I don"t think I"m exaggerating - my feedback is my own feedback and opinion.  But hey, cheers for belittling my feedback.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 15, 2013, 15:13:47 PM
Quick question regarding POTY rankings.....Do the "Open Events" count?

Following this; will APAT Masters count??
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on June 15, 2013, 15:38:39 PM
Just caught up on the schedule.....here"s my two-pennoth....

DELIGHTED to see Dublin back!.....so where will I be?....Australia!!!!

Nice to see you finally agreed to my "Champion Of Champions" suggestion from about 18 months back....though I think it should include Champions from all seasons (and not just cuz I aint won anything for a while on APAT)

Not sure about your scheduling an event for the weekend of August 24th though to clash with The Goliath?

The LPPL weekend has always sounded awesome and I am sure we will see BCPC representation there  ;D

Well Done guys.....great work.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: TallPaul on June 15, 2013, 16:00:34 PM

..great schedule guys but seems that emphasis is for players North of London and for those of us living down South that cannot always travel for 2-3 days its quite hard to find event that can get to :(  


Nothing in the North West since Season 5  :( Better make sure I get the car serviced  ;)


Southport this season though.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 15, 2013, 16:07:19 PM
Can I ask for clarification on how the ranking points will work this season please.

Also, how you qualify for Brian"s champion of champions event  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AAroddersAA on June 15, 2013, 16:08:25 PM
Needless to say this looks excellent. Really, Really, Really good.

Really happy to see Dublin there and Stoke too. The event in Vegas is an unexpected bonus as well.

I am certainly nailed on for the first three (Coventry, Cardiff and DTD), also Vegas and Dublin. Might have to miss Glasgow sadly due to needing too many days off work lol. After that we will see but will be attending as many as possible.

I can see what Steve means about the gap between September and Feb to be honest, even though I would ideally like to be in Prague as well it does depend on time off work though. That being said there is so much to fit in to such an excellent season.

Hopefully the venue for WCOAP can be confirmed as DTD, it just would not feel right having it at a lesser venue (and unless we are taking that to Vegas too every venue is a lesser venue).

Great announcement.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 15, 2013, 16:14:29 PM
Quick question about the Home Internationals?

How many teams will be competing??  How many from each country??

Think we need 10+ England teams, i didnt qualify when there was 1 team, nor was picked when 3 teams so think 10+ and i may have a shot :) :) :)

BTW my missus is going mental, as she wants me to win the WSOP package, however that means making as many events as possible.....or just win every event i play.  Worryingly, thats prob more likely than getting a pass for some of the events!!! (Vegas, Scot, Ire, Prague and Newc)

Oh you APAT organisers, are you getting paid per divorce?? :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 15, 2013, 16:25:34 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 15, 2013, 16:29:39 PM



Fantastic schedule, and more breaking ground. Congratulations APAT!!!

Only gripe - I can"t afford the foreign events, which means there"s nothing for me for five months between August and February. Hey ho - can"t wait for Coventry now!


September - Bristol
November - Glasgow (far but not foreign...no matter what others think)
and since Stoke is 1st Feb I think you"re exaggerating a bit. :)



November Glasgow is a flight away - so no diff between that and Prague in that respect, so yes it"s a foreign event, and unaffordable for me.

Yes Stoke is Feb 1st - and my post stated February.... not sure what you"re trying to say by questioning that one.

So, between Sep7 and Feb1 there is a gap where the events are all on foreign soil (they require flights), and despite what you think about my exaggeration of timescale, it is still five months (which is what I claimed it to be in my post)

I don"t think I"m exaggerating - my feedback is my own feedback and opinion.  But hey, cheers for belittling my feedback.



Yes very conscious of this although I"ve regularly driven to Scotland on the morning of that leg, from Surrey!  A train ride can be very pleasant also and booked in advance, not too expensive.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 15, 2013, 16:34:03 PM

Quick question regarding POTY rankings.....Do the "Open Events" count?

Following this; will APAT Masters count??


They don"t Dann.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 15, 2013, 16:38:17 PM

Just caught up on the schedule.....here"s my two-pennoth....

DELIGHTED to see Dublin back!.....so where will I be?....Australia!!!!

Nice to see you finally agreed to my "Champion Of Champions" suggestion from about 18 months back....though I think it should include Champions from all seasons (and not just cuz I aint won anything for a while on APAT)

Not sure about your scheduling an event for the weekend of August 24th though to clash with The Goliath?

The LPPL weekend has always sounded awesome and I am sure we will see BCPC representation there  ;D

Well Done guys.....great work.



We"ve always held events at DTD during the summer bank holiday, before the Goliath and since. A lot of players come from Coventry to Nottingham after being knocked out.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 15, 2013, 16:41:47 PM

Can I ask for clarification on how the ranking points will work this season please.

Also, how you qualify for Brian"s champion of champions event  ;)


The points situation will be published before Coventry Stu.

We"ll consult with Brian on the best way to qualify players into his Champions event. ;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 15, 2013, 16:50:21 PM

Quick question about the Home Internationals?

How many teams will be competing??  How many from each country??

Think we need 10+ England teams, i didnt qualify when there was 1 team, nor was picked when 3 teams so think 10+ and i may have a shot :) :) :)

BTW my missus is going mental, as she wants me to win the WSOP package, however that means making as many events as possible.....or just win every event i play.  Worryingly, thats prob more likely than getting a pass for some of the events!!! (Vegas, Scot, Ire, Prague and Newc)

Oh you APAT organisers, are you getting paid per divorce?? :)


We"ll get a captain per country finalised and then confirm how many teams per country will take part.  Starting position will be as per last year in Stoke.

The Vegas trips don"t include WSOP entries, but flights and hotels to have you there when the WSOP and all other festivals are taking place.  LPPL have been doing this for some time and the trips are very popular.

Divorce?  We live under the same threat?!  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: ian.ski309 on June 15, 2013, 17:14:15 PM

Nothing in the North West since Season 5  :( Better make sure I get the car serviced  ;)

Southport this season though.


I"d already spotted that Paul, hence my post.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Sugar_Free on June 15, 2013, 17:25:49 PM
I feel like a kid in a toy shop at Christmas, I want that, that, that, that and that

Marvellous looking series, no wonder it took ages to put together. Many thanks to Des and the team.

100% agree with Dann , maybe we can get a block booking on the divorce lawyers.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on June 15, 2013, 18:10:26 PM


Can I ask for clarification on how the ranking points will work this season please.

Also, how you qualify for Brian"s champion of champions event  ;)


The points situation will be published before Coventry Stu.

We"ll consult with Brian on the best way to qualify players into The Brian Yates Champion of Champions event. ;)


FYP
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: prince01 on June 15, 2013, 18:20:32 PM
No events in manchester  
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 15, 2013, 18:47:14 PM
Sigh....

Ninja Modding...

gg
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 15, 2013, 18:52:17 PM

Sigh....

Ninja Modding...

gg


;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on June 15, 2013, 20:27:30 PM
Like Brian .. Nice to see the champions of champions brought back.. Brian suggested prehaps holding an event with all past champions, sounds great to me  ;D.. or failing that what about inviting those back who have been crowned champions since the last CoC held a couple of seasons ago, so gives those who havent had a chance to play in such a prestigious event?  ;)

Im sure it wouldnt mean that many more entrants into the field, and the awesome prize being offered would make for some great poker!! (pretty please xx)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Curlarge on June 15, 2013, 21:20:42 PM

Like Brian .. Nice to see the champions of champions brought back.. Brian suggested prehaps holding an event with all past champions, sounds great to me  ;D.. or failing that what about inviting those back who have been crowned champions since the last CoC held a couple of seasons ago, so gives those who havent had a chance to play in such a prestigious event?  ;)

Im sure it wouldnt mean that many more entrants into the field, and the awesome prize being offered would make for some great poker!! (pretty please xx)


Agree that this would be very fair to all concerned. (Can I have 5% of you please Carl if you get in for free)  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 15, 2013, 22:01:40 PM

Like Brian .. Nice to see the champions of champions brought back.. Brian suggested prehaps holding an event with all past champions, sounds great to me  ;D.. or failing that what about inviting those back who have been crowned champions since the last CoC held a couple of seasons ago, so gives those who havent had a chance to play in such a prestigious event?  ;)

Im sure it wouldnt mean that many more entrants into the field, and the awesome prize being offered would make for some great poker!! (pretty please xx)


How can it be something that has been brought back from a few seasons ago? Brian only suggested it 18 months ago?

;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: TGBane on June 15, 2013, 22:07:19 PM
Looks like I will be donating back most of my winnings from Wembley.
Really looking forward to a few of the stops.
I saw it questioned earlier but did not see the answer about where the reserve button is?
How do you qualify for the team? that would awesome to be part of it.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Swinebag on June 15, 2013, 22:50:18 PM
IMO the CoC has been introduced to make up for the lower than previous added value that is on offer from championship events.

I agree with Bri, Carl etc that a CoC event should exist for past winners. This should however be separate from the event for S7 winners and should be played for prestige (+a bit of cash) and no added value

Winners of events from S1-6 benefited from some super added value in the past, whereas S7 "only" get a seat in the WCOAP main
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on June 15, 2013, 23:05:45 PM


Like Brian .. Nice to see the champions of champions brought back.. Brian suggested prehaps holding an event with all past champions, sounds great to me  ;D.. or failing that what about inviting those back who have been crowned champions since the last CoC held a couple of seasons ago, so gives those who havent had a chance to play in such a prestigious event?  ;)

Im sure it wouldnt mean that many more entrants into the field, and the awesome prize being offered would make for some great poker!! (pretty please xx)


How can it be something that has been brought back from a few seasons ago? Brian only suggested it 18 months ago?

;)


Hehe Stu yeah silly me didnt want to hijack Brians "new" concept..

Joking aside.. when was the last CoC?.. and since the last how many new inducuctions has there been?.. seems that quite a few may of missed out in playing this event, i must admit i was pretty gutted that there wasnt one last season at the WCOAP or other event.. As Rob has stated its not so much about the added value its the bragging rights, if there was a prize or trophy thrown into the mix all the better  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 15, 2013, 23:15:44 PM



Like Brian .. Nice to see the champions of champions brought back.. Brian suggested prehaps holding an event with all past champions, sounds great to me  ;D.. or failing that what about inviting those back who have been crowned champions since the last CoC held a couple of seasons ago, so gives those who havent had a chance to play in such a prestigious event?  ;)

Im sure it wouldnt mean that many more entrants into the field, and the awesome prize being offered would make for some great poker!! (pretty please xx)


How can it be something that has been brought back from a few seasons ago? Brian only suggested it 18 months ago?

;)


Hehe Stu yeah silly me didnt want to hijack Brians "new" concept..

Joking aside.. when was the last CoC?.. and since the last how many new inducuctions has there been?.. seems that quite a few may of missed out in playing this event, i must admit i was pretty gutted that there wasnt one last season at the WCOAP or other event.. As Rob has stated its not so much about the added value its the bragging rights, if there was a prize or trophy thrown into the mix all the better  ;D


Season 4 at Bolton? When Betfair were sponsoring and gave away a £20k sponsorship package to the winner.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AAroddersAA on June 16, 2013, 08:05:14 AM




Like Brian .. Nice to see the champions of champions brought back.. Brian suggested prehaps holding an event with all past champions, sounds great to me  ;D.. or failing that what about inviting those back who have been crowned champions since the last CoC held a couple of seasons ago, so gives those who havent had a chance to play in such a prestigious event?  ;)

Im sure it wouldnt mean that many more entrants into the field, and the awesome prize being offered would make for some great poker!! (pretty please xx)


How can it be something that has been brought back from a few seasons ago? Brian only suggested it 18 months ago?

;)


Hehe Stu yeah silly me didnt want to hijack Brians "new" concept..

Joking aside.. when was the last CoC?.. and since the last how many new inducuctions has there been?.. seems that quite a few may of missed out in playing this event, i must admit i was pretty gutted that there wasnt one last season at the WCOAP or other event.. As Rob has stated its not so much about the added value its the bragging rights, if there was a prize or trophy thrown into the mix all the better  ;D


Season 4 at Bolton? When Betfair were sponsoring and gave away a £20k sponsorship package to the winner.

Yes this is correct. The Betfair sponsorship was awesome, there has been nothing like it before or since. Has there ever been a CoC other than this though? The event itself was a 16 man sitngo, too be fair looking back it would have been better at the wcoap, so this is a good shout.

I definitely don"t think we need an event for all Champions since though, not at all. I don"t see any reason to give away further added value to people who have already benefited from it. If there is extra added value available (and let"s be fair there is already a significant amount given away with trips to Vegas to be won) then allow everybody to benefit from it not just a few, give it to the overall rankings winner imo.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: nosey-p on June 16, 2013, 09:27:45 AM
The COC is for winners of live and online, if you have all from Season 1 to Season 7 then the numbers will be big, in season one alone (if my memory is right) they was over 20 online champions (me being one of them :)) I was also the online champion that year but they was no added value. Plus the last COC was only for that season and no other champions was include from previous seasons, so you cannot include champions from season 5 and 6.  
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 09:49:10 AM
The added value is an interesting question, as is CoC.

We"ve given away thousands in free entries to everything from the WSOP main event to GPS over the years, but with very few exceptions I don"t think the winners have benefitted massively from attending, experience aside.

I was very pro sending all winners to the WCOAP last year but we decided against at the last minute. The theory in doing it this year is that having all of our main event champions under one roof for one very special event, while not necessarily offering the cash first prize of a GPS or UKIPT, will create a very prestigious event that champions can look forward to through the season, with a Vegas trip added to serious bragging rights the prize. I can see this event being the live stream of Friday night and the most popular of all time.

The content it creates will be superb and it is in this context that a CoC works for me. I wasn"t a fan of the lets get all old champs back as Brian suggested. Perhaps in our tenth year we may have an anniversary special.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AAroddersAA on June 16, 2013, 10:10:35 AM

The added value is an interesting question, as is CoC.

We"ve given away thousands in free entries to everything from the WSOP main event to GPS over the years, but with very few exceptions I don"t think the winners have benefitted massively from attending, experience aside.

I was very pro sending all winners to the WCOAP last year but we decided against at the last minute. The theory in doing it this year is that having all of our main event champions under one roof for one very special event, while not necessarily offering the cash first prize of a GPS or UKIPT, will create a very prestigious event that champions can look forward to through the season, with a Vegas trip added to serious bragging rights the prize. I can see this event being the live stream of Friday night and the most popular of all time.

The content it creates will be superb and it is in this context that a CoC works for me. I wasn"t a fan of the lets get all old champs back as Brian suggested. Perhaps in our tenth year we may have an anniversary special.

Agreed that a Champion of Champions event with this years winners will be good. I don"t think that one bringing back all the previous winners would be that great though, Season"s 5 and 6 are done, let them be. Also I was not playing before season 4 but I don"t think there was a Champion of Champions before this so it was a one off event (and I hardly noticed it after Warren knocked me out in about 5 hands *lol*) Correct me if I am wrong. Yes having all the champions there in Bolton was good though. Being at DTD would only make it better.

Also I think the winners have benefited a lot from the added value. The experience of one of those larger events is a huge benefit in itself.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: bigalhx3 on June 16, 2013, 11:16:19 AM

..great schedule guys but seems that emphasis is for players North of London and for those of us living down South that cannot always travel for 2-3 days its quite hard to find event that can get to :(  


Nothing in the North West since Season 5  :( Better make sure I get the car serviced  ;)
.  You could live in Yorkshire there been no Apat since...... erm ever, you might as well talk to people in Yorkshire casino about cow pats then apats
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: nosey-p on June 16, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
I Play on and off in Leeds and I normally start a conversation about APAT, most of the time I just get blank looks, they have no idea what I"m talking about, yes there are some who play APAT games but the biggest  % of players have never heard of APAT. I have also played in Sheffield and it"s the same response. The only thing I can come up with as why APAT have not come to Leeds or Sheffield is that it"s only 1/1.5 hours away from DTD but that"s only if you live in South Yorkshire, Yorkshire is a big county and is well overdue a APAT game. The Genting in Sheffield is perfect for a APAT game    
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: mylesfdo on June 16, 2013, 11:39:30 AM

I Play on and off in Leeds and I normally start a conversation about APAT, most of the time I just get blank looks, they have no idea what I"m talking about, yes there are some who play APAT games but the biggest  % of players have never heard of APAT. I have also played in Sheffield and it"s the same response. The only thing I can come up with as why APAT have not come to Leeds or Sheffield is that it"s only 1/1.5 hours away from DTD but that"s only if you live in South Yorkshire, Yorkshire is a big county and is well overdue a APAT game. The Genting in Sheffield is perfect for a APAT game    


+1 but in regards to Sussex, South East & London......only way going to attract new players is to put something on!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: bigalhx3 on June 16, 2013, 12:17:00 PM

I Play on and off in Leeds and I normally start a conversation about APAT, most of the time I just get blank looks, they have no idea what I"m talking about, yes there are some who play APAT games but the biggest  % of players have never heard of APAT. I have also played in Sheffield and it"s the same response. The only thing I can come up with as why APAT have not come to Leeds or Sheffield is that it"s only 1/1.5 hours away from DTD but that"s only if you live in South Yorkshire, Yorkshire is a big county and is well overdue a APAT game. The Genting in Sheffield is perfect for a APAT game    


I believe that this is the case in the past because none of the casino in Yorkshire want to hold a APAT if they would im sure APAT would have held a comp there as I know they have tried
And I agree with what you say when you start a conversation about APAT that you just get a blank look then asked what APAT
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 16, 2013, 12:23:54 PM

I Play on and off in Leeds and I normally start a conversation about APAT, most of the time I just get blank looks, they have no idea what I"m talking about, yes there are some who play APAT games but the biggest  % of players have never heard of APAT. I have also played in Sheffield and it"s the same response. The only thing I can come up with as why APAT have not come to Leeds or Sheffield is that it"s only 1/1.5 hours away from DTD but that"s only if you live in South Yorkshire, Yorkshire is a big county and is well overdue a APAT game. The Genting in Sheffield is perfect for a APAT game    


I visited Genting in Sheffield for the first time on Friday and was very impressed. Given that they have help GPS events there with large fields I"m sure they could cope with an APAT event.

Hope this can happen in season 8. Lets start the campaign now - BRING APAT TO YORKSHIRE  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 16, 2013, 12:35:35 PM
I wouldn"t mind a trip to Yorkshire and I"m sure they could cope but will they do it for the price APAT are willing to pay?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 12:54:30 PM
I"m pretty sure there isn"t a casino in the country that wouldn"t run APAT these days and be very happy to have got one. It"s figuring which ones to drop that"s the real issue.  
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: ian.ski309 on June 16, 2013, 13:38:23 PM

I"m pretty sure there isn"t a casino in the country that wouldn"t run APAT these days and be very happy to have got one. It"s figuring which ones to drop that"s the real issue.  


And there"s the rub... really can"t argue about any of the chosen venues, they"re all spot on.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on June 16, 2013, 13:57:25 PM

The added value is an interesting question, as is CoC.

We"ve given away thousands in free entries to everything from the WSOP main event to GPS over the years, but with very few exceptions I don"t think the winners have benefitted massively from attending, experience aside.

I was very pro sending all winners to the WCOAP last year but we decided against at the last minute. The theory in doing it this year is that having all of our main event champions under one roof for one very special event, while not necessarily offering the cash first prize of a GPS or UKIPT, will create a very prestigious event that champions can look forward to through the season, with a Vegas trip added to serious bragging rights the prize. I can see this event being the live stream of Friday night and the most popular of all time.

The content it creates will be superb and it is in this context that a CoC works for me. I wasn"t a fan of the lets get all old champs back as Brian suggested. Perhaps in our tenth year we may have an anniversary special.


Was last season the only season since the start of C o C that was missed off the schedual ?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 14:05:15 PM


The added value is an interesting question, as is CoC.

We"ve given away thousands in free entries to everything from the WSOP main event to GPS over the years, but with very few exceptions I don"t think the winners have benefitted massively from attending, experience aside.

I was very pro sending all winners to the WCOAP last year but we decided against at the last minute. The theory in doing it this year is that having all of our main event champions under one roof for one very special event, while not necessarily offering the cash first prize of a GPS or UKIPT, will create a very prestigious event that champions can look forward to through the season, with a Vegas trip added to serious bragging rights the prize. I can see this event being the live stream of Friday night and the most popular of all time.

The content it creates will be superb and it is in this context that a CoC works for me. I wasn"t a fan of the lets get all old champs back as Brian suggested. Perhaps in our tenth year we may have an anniversary special.


Was last season the only season since the start of C o C that was missed off the schedual ?


No, a season"s CoC has only been run once before Carl, in season four.  This would be the second.  It"s possibly something that could become a fixture going forward, particularly given the success of the APAT Awards at DTD last WCOAP.  It makes sense to really encourage all of our champions to go to the WCOAP, for a season ending finale - and in that respect, this is very much a first.

Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: bear21 on June 16, 2013, 14:10:09 PM
Awesome schedule DES !!

will try to play as much as possible funds permitting LOL

only gripe is the amount of overseas games but heho can"t please everyone  :-\

Ohhh VEGAS ( I wish )
Well Done !!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on June 16, 2013, 14:19:02 PM



The added value is an interesting question, as is CoC.

We"ve given away thousands in free entries to everything from the WSOP main event to GPS over the years, but with very few exceptions I don"t think the winners have benefitted massively from attending, experience aside.

I was very pro sending all winners to the WCOAP last year but we decided against at the last minute. The theory in doing it this year is that having all of our main event champions under one roof for one very special event, while not necessarily offering the cash first prize of a GPS or UKIPT, will create a very prestigious event that champions can look forward to through the season, with a Vegas trip added to serious bragging rights the prize. I can see this event being the live stream of Friday night and the most popular of all time.

The content it creates will be superb and it is in this context that a CoC works for me. I wasn"t a fan of the lets get all old champs back as Brian suggested. Perhaps in our tenth year we may have an anniversary special.


Was last season the only season since the start of C o C that was missed off the schedual ?


No, a season"s CoC has only been run once before Carl, in season four.  This would be the second.  It"s possibly something that could become a fixture going forward, particularly given the success of the APAT Awards at DTD last WCOAP.  It makes sense to really encourage all of our champions to go to the WCOAP, for a season ending finale - and in that respect, this is very much a first.




Ok nice one Des.. Was not sure if it had been missed off for a season or two, great idea to bring it back.. Will have to dig out the horseshoe and rabbits foot again this season to give it a crack..
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: bigalhx3 on June 16, 2013, 14:51:47 PM

I wouldn"t mind a trip to Yorkshire and I"m sure they could cope but will they do it for the price APAT are willing to pay?


We drive a hard bargain in Yorkshire that"s true but im sure Des could charm them into giving him a good deal  :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: The Mook on June 16, 2013, 15:02:31 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 15:06:17 PM


I wouldn"t mind a trip to Yorkshire and I"m sure they could cope but will they do it for the price APAT are willing to pay?


We drive a hard bargain in Yorkshire that"s true but im sure Des could charm them into giving him a good deal  :)


FYP Al.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 15:07:54 PM

  • Schedule worth the wait!

    On a selfish note, yay something in Bristol, just need to understand what it is.
    On a less selfish note, Prague Poker Festival is so huge, getting in on this can only be great news for APAT.

    RE The foreign events, any thoughts about satellites offering packages for these?
    Really hope the LPPL will boost numbers for satellites and the online champs (assuming they aren"t all strictly pub players?).


Thanks Darren.  Prague is a great scoop, and we were within a hairs breadth of being part of another seriously big world event.  We"ll continue to work on that one, so no clues yet.

We will be pulling together a sat schedule for Prague and of course we hope that event will appeal to a lot of our European members and festival regulars also.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: inthebelly on June 16, 2013, 17:12:45 PM
is prague really a 4 day event?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 17:21:43 PM

is prague really a 4 day event?


Two events Paul - a two day team event and a two day main event.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 16, 2013, 17:50:50 PM
When is the holding tank for Welsh Event gonna be on WillHill??
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: inthebelly on June 16, 2013, 17:55:21 PM


is prague really a 4 day event?


Two events Paul - a two day team event and a two day main event.


In the schedule it states the team event is 2 days and the European championship is 4 days
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 17:57:24 PM
Edited, thanks.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on June 16, 2013, 18:03:28 PM
What an awesome schedule, I"ll be at as many as possible, but cant make the first two :(
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 16, 2013, 18:27:38 PM
I haven"t seen any mention of sponsorship this season. Are APAT going it alone now?

Are WH adding anything for us having to sign up / play there?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Sugar_Free on June 16, 2013, 18:35:22 PM


The added value is an interesting question, as is CoC.

We"ve given away thousands in free entries to everything from the WSOP main event to GPS over the years, but with very few exceptions I don"t think the winners have benefitted massively from attending, experience aside.

I was very pro sending all winners to the WCOAP last year but we decided against at the last minute. The theory in doing it this year is that having all of our main event champions under one roof for one very special event, while not necessarily offering the cash first prize of a GPS or UKIPT, will create a very prestigious event that champions can look forward to through the season, with a Vegas trip added to serious bragging rights the prize. I can see this event being the live stream of Friday night and the most popular of all time.

The content it creates will be superb and it is in this context that a CoC works for me. I wasn"t a fan of the lets get all old champs back as Brian suggested. Perhaps in our tenth year we may have an anniversary special.


Was last season the only season since the start of C o C that was missed off the schedual ?


No real point having it in S6 when there was only one bloke to invite  :P
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 16, 2013, 18:42:34 PM

I haven"t seen any mention of sponsorship this season. Are APAT going it alone now?

Are WH adding anything for us having to sign up / play there?


William Hill have sponsored the next two events Stuart; which we held over from the end of last season to give support to DTD with the ISPT.  We"re in talks with other third parties from event 4 onwards, but WH"s sponsorship effectively supports the budget for the Vegas and WCOAP packages. 

They are offering a deposit £10, get £10 extra for players also.  
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: gosling67 on June 17, 2013, 12:55:23 PM


Sat 07 Sep 13   LPPL Players Championship   2       Gala, Bristol



Will this only be open to LPPL qualifiers, or can anyone gate-crash?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: 1TRW1 on June 17, 2013, 13:24:20 PM


For people like me who struggle to travel....

Online Comp dates....?????


To follow Bill, we thought we"d focus on live tonight.


But just to be clear there won"t be onlines this weekend i.e. a week before the live event like we have generally done in the past? Ta.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: amcgrath1uk on June 17, 2013, 14:43:39 PM



For people like me who struggle to travel....

Online Comp dates....?????


To follow Bill, we thought we"d focus on live tonight.


But just to be clear there won"t be onlines this weekend i.e. a week before the live event like we have generally done in the past? Ta.


Generally been the week after...
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: nosey-p on June 17, 2013, 16:48:50 PM
Hope the online Championships are not points and only the main event winner is the champ
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: cundallini on June 17, 2013, 16:51:22 PM
What the actual ****.

My stag do in Vegas is during APAT Vegas!

YES!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: sm2000p on June 17, 2013, 16:55:42 PM
I haaven"t read the whole thread so forgive me if this question has already been asked but does the Wembly Poker Masters count for S7 POY given that it was played before the schedule was announced?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on June 17, 2013, 17:34:04 PM
Haven"t had cahnce to speak to Mark yet......but I posted on BCPC that there was a team event in Southport that is "Open to all APAT members"

I then got asked, pretty quickly, how this could happen when the LPPL players all have to qualify for this weekend in Southport?

Am I correct in thinking that all APAT members are guaranteed entry to the Southport events,....cuz that is what the S7 announcement suggests?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 17, 2013, 17:39:54 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on June 17, 2013, 17:40:27 PM
Also, my suggestion was to have a C OF C every season and make it open to all APAT Champions because of the prestige of winning it. This would be an invitation-only event and you can be sure that it would be one everyone involved would want to win. Added value makes no difference.

Neither does taking the p155  
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on June 17, 2013, 18:01:34 PM
To be fair Des, it doesn"t suggest you have to qualify either.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 17, 2013, 18:20:52 PM

To be fair Des, it doesn"t suggest you have to qualify either.


Yeah, agree with you Brian - which is why I think we need to hold for a couple of days to understand what the intention was here.  I believe it will require APAT members to qualify, but definitely clarification is required.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 17, 2013, 21:02:02 PM
Des, in regards to cash tour,

Will it be changed so that if you have not had your reload, that it can be taken prior to final count??

I think someone that has bought in for £200 and ends on £350 shouldnt be ahead of someone that has bought in for £100 and has £349 infront of them.  This was the case at the Worlds?  I promise this isnt me being bitter (much) just think it needs to be fairer to all playing?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 17, 2013, 21:20:38 PM

Des, in regards to cash tour,

Will it be changed so that if you have not had your reload, that it can be taken prior to final count??

I think someone that has bought in for £200 and ends on £350 shouldnt be ahead of someone that has bought in for £100 and has £349 infront of them.  This was the case at the Worlds?  I promise this isnt me being bitter (much) just think it needs to be fairer to all playing?


You bet, but it would have to be taken prior to the final count.  That was a good learning point coming out of Nottingham.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 17, 2013, 21:22:38 PM
Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: 1TRW1 on June 17, 2013, 21:29:05 PM




For people like me who struggle to travel....

Online Comp dates....?????


To follow Bill, we thought we"d focus on live tonight.


But just to be clear there won"t be onlines this weekend i.e. a week before the live event like we have generally done in the past? Ta.


Generally been the week after...


Maybe recently but in the olden days they were defo a week before.

Anyway no answer from the big man so I"ll assume nothing this weekend. As always as much notice as poss would be good. Otherwise her indoors says "It"s not on the calendar!" and I have to reluctantly hand back the trousers and brace myself for an evening of flower arranging.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 17, 2013, 21:29:07 PM

Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?


Yes, we"ll break the second bullet into two chunks and they (optional) will have to be taken before the first phase ends.  Taking them will not be subject to losing your starting stack.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 17, 2013, 21:44:26 PM


Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?


Yes, we"ll break the second bullet into two chunks and they (optional) will have to be taken before the first phase ends.  Taking them will not be subject to losing your starting stack.


Cool,

Cant wait for the venues/dates for this!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 17, 2013, 22:13:08 PM
Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?

Confirm/Deny?

Oh and if/so, where do i reserve my seat?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 17, 2013, 22:27:42 PM

Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?



Where"d you see that??
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 17, 2013, 22:29:18 PM

Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?

Confirm/Deny?

Oh and if/so, where do i reserve my seat?


Confirmed
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 17, 2013, 22:32:01 PM


Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?



Where"d you see that??



On the calender.....

Shizzle....need to find another £200 from somewhere!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Sef on June 18, 2013, 10:44:44 AM
Lovely line up as always guys. Need to get the poker planner and bank statement out to see what I can make! lol ;)

See you all at some point over the season.  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: LombBomb on June 18, 2013, 12:38:05 PM
Epic schedule...hope to make as many of these as I can.

Anyone from Scotland/North heading down to Coventry?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: CW86 on June 19, 2013, 11:21:49 AM


Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?


Yes, we"ll break the second bullet into two chunks and they (optional) will have to be taken before the first phase ends.  Taking them will not be subject to losing your starting stack.


Ah thats a shame, i think the option should def be giving once the last hand has been played in the 1st phase to avoid what dann is worried about. But to allow the reload to be taken at any point totally shifts the dynamic of what made the event so good (giving it its slightly tournament like feel)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 19, 2013, 12:31:56 PM



Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?


Yes, we"ll break the second bullet into two chunks and they (optional) will have to be taken before the first phase ends.  Taking them will not be subject to losing your starting stack.


Ah thats a shame, i think the option should def be giving once the last hand has been played in the 1st phase to avoid what dann is worried about. But to allow the reload to be taken at any point totally shifts the dynamic of what made the event so good (giving it its slightly tournament like feel)


Agree - rather than being a £100 buy in with a £100 safety net rebuy option, this will just become a £200 buy in for many, and will give those with deeper pockets an early advantage.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 19, 2013, 12:39:29 PM
Partially solved by saying you can only add-on one of the chunks of £50 when your stack is £75 or lower.

If you have to bust before reloading, losing an early pot can restrict you somewhat.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 19, 2013, 12:45:05 PM
Could it not just be changed that instead of the top 8 stacks go through to the FT, the top 8 profitable players take their stacks through.

That means you keep the reload rules as it is, but if you have taken a second bullet, you are penalised £100 when calculating the final table positions.

This doesn"t then advantage the deeper pocketed players as Steve has suggested, but also solves the issues that were raised from the DTD event.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 19, 2013, 12:58:04 PM

Could it not just be changed that instead of the top 8 stacks go through to the FT, the top 8 profitable players take their stacks through.

That means you keep the reload rules as it is, but if you have taken a second bullet, you are penalised £100 when calculating the final table positions.

This doesn"t then advantage the deeper pocketed players as Steve has suggested, but also solves the issues that were raised from the DTD event.


I think Des hinted that earlier - entirely correct ofc for Profit > Stack.

If you can only reload when you"ve bust, then any shorter stacked players are going to be disadvantaged - what"s the point of sitting there with a £50 stack with half an hour left even if you have your reload behind for example?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 19, 2013, 13:02:58 PM
I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AAroddersAA on June 19, 2013, 13:10:00 PM

I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.

No it should be the 8 biggest stack in play surely

The idea is to create a deep stacked cash game as I understand it. To do that you need the biggest stacks in play. Just give everybody the option to add on their unused rebuys at the end and its the same thing anyway. I like the idea of 4 top-ups btw.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 19, 2013, 13:19:49 PM

I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.


Yeah, that"s also fine (I"d actually prefer that). As long as it"s some form of resticted top-up then it keeps everyone in play.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 19, 2013, 13:23:15 PM


I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.

No it should be the 8 biggest stack in play surely

The idea is to create a deep stacked cash game as I understand it. To do that you need the biggest stacks in play. Just give everybody the option to add on their unused rebuys at the end and its the same thing anyway. I like the idea of 4 top-ups btw.


If one person buys in for £100 and no top ups, and finishes with £349 (profit £249), then another player uses all tops so total buy in is £200, and he finishes with £350 (profit £150), and he finishes as the 8th biggest stack, do you believe it"s fair for him to go through to the final ahead of the guy with £349 but a much bigger profit?   I take your point about needing as many chips in play on the final table as possible though
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 19, 2013, 13:31:19 PM



I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.

No it should be the 8 biggest stack in play surely

The idea is to create a deep stacked cash game as I understand it. To do that you need the biggest stacks in play. Just give everybody the option to add on their unused rebuys at the end and its the same thing anyway. I like the idea of 4 top-ups btw.


If one person buys in for £100 and no top ups, and finishes with £349 (profit £249), then another player uses all tops so total buy in is £200, and he finishes with £350 (profit £150), and he finishes as the 8th biggest stack, do you believe it"s fair for him to go through to the final ahead of the guy with £349 but a much bigger profit?   I take your point about needing as many chips in play on the final table as possible though


Aaaaannnndddd....Dann Williams - here is your cue! ;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 19, 2013, 13:33:26 PM
Fair point Rodders, but I think in most circumstances, the most profitable players will also be the biggest stacks.  The discussion here seems to revolve areound the marginal stacks that may or not make the FT and surely the more profitable players deserve to go through, with the worst case scenario of £100 difference in potential chips on the final table (which is likely to be a small % overall)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 19, 2013, 13:40:14 PM

Fair point Rodders, but I think in most circumstances, the most profitable players will also be the biggest stacks.  The discussion here seems to revolve areound the marginal stacks that may or not make the FT and surely the more profitable players deserve to go through, with the worst case scenario of £100 difference in potential chips on the final table (which is likely to be a small % overall)


Actually, I suspect it would be the other way round and *could* favour the volume of chips on the final table.  eg If I were to get through to the final as one of the 8 most profitable players, I would almost certainly take the remaining top ups as addons..... this would therefore increase the chips in play on the final...... the less profitable player who has already used his top ups would not be able to put any more additional chips onto the final table.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 19, 2013, 13:50:09 PM


Fair point Rodders, but I think in most circumstances, the most profitable players will also be the biggest stacks.  The discussion here seems to revolve areound the marginal stacks that may or not make the FT and surely the more profitable players deserve to go through, with the worst case scenario of £100 difference in potential chips on the final table (which is likely to be a small % overall)


Actually, I suspect it would be the other way round and *could* favour the volume of chips on the final table.  eg If I were to get through to the final as one of the 8 most profitable players, I would almost certainly take the remaining top ups as addons..... this would therefore increase the chips in play on the final...... the less profitable player who has already used his top ups would not be able to put any more additional chips onto the final table.


Actually, you are probably correct.  How annoying. ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 19, 2013, 14:10:00 PM
Maybe we need a breakout thread - Rumours that the cash tournament rules are changing ;)

Just because someone has more chips starting with £100 as opposed to the guy who has bought in for £200 doesn"t mean they have made the most profit. Surely profit can only be measured once you go to the cash desk. Making the call as whether to use your extra £100 or not is also a skill, as is when to use it. As this is a cash game (albeit with a difference) then normal cash dynamics of someone having deep pockets should be part of the game IMO.

If I see a cash game and it has a cap of £2000 with a minimum buy-in of £100 then I can choose to play it or not. I personally wouldn"t play this cash game tourney without being prepared to risk the full £200.

I think there should be a minimum and maximum buy-in and a defined amount of "rebuys/top-ups" both in terms of number and amount.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 19, 2013, 14:48:59 PM
As Steve was pointing out. My 2nd £100 was in my hand to be added to stack for Final Table, whereas Ian and Frankie had already bust once and couldn"t. There would have been £93 more at FT if the rules allowed me to do so
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 19, 2013, 14:56:02 PM

Aaaaannnndddd....Dann Williams - here is your cue! ;)


As Steve was pointing out. My 2nd £100 was in my hand to be added to stack for Final Table, whereas Ian and Frankie had already bust once and couldn"t. There would have been £93 more at FT if the rules allowed me to do so


Dance puppet, DANCE!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: deanp27 on June 19, 2013, 16:15:23 PM
I reckon a live cash tournament should start 250bb deep anyway to be interesting, so either increase stacks or decrease blinds (or both)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: CW86 on June 19, 2013, 18:07:46 PM

I reckon a live cash tournament should start 250bb deep anyway to be interesting, so either increase stacks or decrease blinds (or both)


Once it got to 1-2 the average was around 250bb anyway
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 19, 2013, 18:21:47 PM


Aaaaannnndddd....Dann Williams - here is your cue! ;)


As Steve was pointing out. My 2nd £100 was in my hand to be added to stack for Final Table, whereas Ian and Frankie had already bust once and couldn"t. There would have been £93 more at FT if the rules allowed me to do so


Dance puppet, DANCE!


Ok sir

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Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 19, 2013, 18:22:46 PM
My question is when/where can i reg for cash in Cov??

I have booked the day off so i can get there.

Reserve i up please!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: CW86 on June 19, 2013, 18:57:33 PM

My question is when/where can i reg for cash in Cov??

I have booked the day off so i can get there.

Reserve i up please!


+1
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: 4KSuited on June 20, 2013, 12:12:08 PM


I haven"t seen any mention of sponsorship this season. Are APAT going it alone now?

Are WH adding anything for us having to sign up / play there?


William Hill have sponsored the next two events Stuart; which we held over from the end of last season to give support to DTD with the ISPT.  We"re in talks with other third parties from event 4 onwards, but WH"s sponsorship effectively supports the budget for the Vegas and WCOAP packages. 

They are offering a deposit £10, get £10 extra for players also. 


Des - after lots of hand-wringing and nail-chewing, I finally opened up a new player account on William Hill"s. I was finally convinced of this need because a) I was tempted to play the Freeroll tonight for the seats at Coventry and b) there is this offer of £10 free for a £10 deposit.

Imagine my chagrin when I downloaded, signed up, deposited £10 and then waited for the arrival of my extra £10 from the internet ether.... A quick chat-room enquiry followed, wherein I was advised that the offer had been "discontinued" 2 weeks ago...

Shurely shome mishtake...

I know you"re busy, but hey £10 is 2 pre-reg fees!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 20, 2013, 12:18:14 PM
I"m on the case with our William Hill contacts at the moment Phil.

I"ll get back to you as soon as I have an answer.



Leigh
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: adelaidebull on June 20, 2013, 13:51:27 PM
tbh i really don"t know why u bother will William Hill,i tried to reactivate my account(so i could buyin to APAT events) and after 3 days of email tennis with me sending and resending driving licence POA bank cards and i finally get an email saying we won"t be reactivating your account for an incident that happened 2 years ago and tbh i don"t remember what i"m suppose to have done...
All i want to do is able to pay into APAT events so its thank god for the reservation a fiver well spend and just a reminder William Hill you get no rake off me so its your loss.
So would it be possible to run Sats and buyins off your own site,has you can see i"m unable to use Whill...
cheers adey
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: 4KSuited on June 20, 2013, 19:57:54 PM

I"m on the case with our William Hill contacts at the moment Phil.

I"ll get back to you as soon as I have an answer.


Thanks Leigh - sorted - £10 extra in the account & about to use it for rebuys in the Freeroll... (maybe)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: HERBIEHACKIT on June 21, 2013, 14:36:29 PM
Great was looking forward to apat this year. then dates come out and i can only play in one event. we have fixed hols at work so will have to try and do some swaps. even missing newcastle event as i am one of a number of local players refusing to play their.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 21, 2013, 17:43:52 PM

Great was looking forward to apat this year. then dates come out and i can only play in one event. we have fixed hols at work so will have to try and do some swaps. even missing newcastle event as i am one of a number of local players refusing to play their.


Whats wrong with the venue?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 21, 2013, 19:44:56 PM


Great was looking forward to apat this year. then dates come out and i can only play in one event. we have fixed hols at work so will have to try and do some swaps. even missing newcastle event as i am one of a number of local players refusing to play their.




Whats wrong with the venue?


Not really sure this is the place for airing local disputes Dann.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: KarmaDope on June 21, 2013, 19:57:58 PM



Great was looking forward to apat this year. then dates come out and i can only play in one event. we have fixed hols at work so will have to try and do some swaps. even missing newcastle event as i am one of a number of local players refusing to play their.




Whats wrong with the venue?


Not really sure this is the place for airing local disputes Dann.


Respectfully, I kinda disagree - solely based on the fact that the dispute could be something which would affect us as APAT players when we head up there for what are the first two events of our premier series :)

Don"t get me wrong - if it is a dispute based on Player X not getting on with the cardroom manager then no, it"s not one for us! But, if it is something that us as players should know - then he should be allowed to share.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 21, 2013, 20:02:27 PM




Great was looking forward to apat this year. then dates come out and i can only play in one event. we have fixed hols at work so will have to try and do some swaps. even missing newcastle event as i am one of a number of local players refusing to play their.




Whats wrong with the venue?


Not really sure this is the place for airing local disputes Dann.


Respectfully, I kinda disagree - solely based on the fact that the dispute could be something which would affect us as APAT players when we head up there for what are the first two events of our premier series :)

Don"t get me wrong - if it is a dispute based on Player X not getting on with the cardroom manager then no, it"s not one for us! But, if it is something that us as players should know - then he should be allowed to share.


Agree as thats one date that is kinda Ying/Yang for me......

Tewkesbury to Newcastle for 2 x £50 mtts (one of which is technically a sng) isnt the most appealling, even though i have been begging for a shootout event (although i aired my thoughts on its practicallity and my preference of it being at DTD) so if Aspers Newcastle is another Luton, then i could be swayed to stay at home.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 21, 2013, 21:17:43 PM
Is the online schedule being announced soon?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on June 21, 2013, 22:07:21 PM


Great was looking forward to apat this year. then dates come out and i can only play in one event. we have fixed hols at work so will have to try and do some swaps. even missing newcastle event as i am one of a number of local players refusing to play their.


Whats wrong with the venue?


Its in Newcastle.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 21, 2013, 22:23:37 PM



Great was looking forward to apat this year. then dates come out and i can only play in one event. we have fixed hols at work so will have to try and do some swaps. even missing newcastle event as i am one of a number of local players refusing to play their.


Whats wrong with the venue?


Its in Newcastle.


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Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: MintTrav on June 22, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
I"ve just noticed that the cash tour is set to run from 6-11.45 at each venue. I was going to play these, but those times make it very difficult for anyone travelling to get there in time. Casinos are open much later than the scheduled ending time. Could they not start from, say, 8pm?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 22, 2013, 14:29:06 PM

I"ve just noticed that the cash tour is set to run from 6-11.45 at each venue. I was going to play these, but those times make it very difficult for anyone travelling to get there in time. Casinos are open much later than the scheduled ending time. Could they not start from, say, 8pm?


Aren"t they all on Saturdays?

Ignore if you"re a Saturday worker.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 22, 2013, 15:59:35 PM


I"ve just noticed that the cash tour is set to run from 6-11.45 at each venue. I was going to play these, but those times make it very difficult for anyone travelling to get there in time. Casinos are open much later than the scheduled ending time. Could they not start from, say, 8pm?


Aren"t they all on Saturdays?

Ignore if you"re a Saturday worker.


Fridays at 6pm according to the schedule.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on June 22, 2013, 16:49:28 PM
Cash Tour will be held on Friday nights with play starting at 9pm. Second phase will run for two hours from midnight.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AAroddersAA on June 22, 2013, 17:50:11 PM

Cash Tour will be held on Friday nights with play starting at 9pm. Second phase will run for two hours from midnight.

Will it always be on the Friday night? Fair enough if so although everybody know I am not a big fan of playing poker if I am there on the Friday night normally. Guess I will have to alter that :-)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: MintTrav on June 22, 2013, 18:43:11 PM
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Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 22, 2013, 18:50:53 PM

Cash Tour will be held on Friday nights with play starting at 9pm. Second phase will run for two hours from midnight.


Huh??

Bugger, just booked the day off to get to Cov in time....

Only live an hr away, so may as well cancel it.

So is it 9pm - Midnight, then Midnight til 2am??
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on June 22, 2013, 22:01:17 PM


Cash Tour will be held on Friday nights with play starting at 9pm. Second phase will run for two hours from midnight.


Huh??

Bugger, just booked the day off to get to Cov in time....

Only live an hr away, so may as well cancel it.

So is it 9pm - Midnight, then Midnight til 2am??


Cant believe APAT have double booked this with my time at the bar. FML.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 22, 2013, 22:13:37 PM


Cant believe APAT have double booked this with my time at the bar. FML.


Multi-tabling FTW.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on June 22, 2013, 22:14:38 PM



Cant believe APAT have double booked this with my time at the bar. FML.


Multi-tabling FTW.


Are you staying at the Ricoh for the weekend Mr D?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 22, 2013, 22:24:28 PM




Cant believe APAT have double booked this with my time at the bar. FML.


Multi-tabling FTW.


Are you staying at the Ricoh for the weekend Mr D?


No mate....I"m at the HI a couple of miles away.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on June 22, 2013, 22:33:43 PM
ahhh fair, we need to arrange a meeting point for friday night. You coming to the casino? Pub somewhere?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 22, 2013, 22:43:56 PM

ahhh fair, we need to arrange a meeting point for friday night. You coming to the casino? Pub somewhere?


Casino seems logical.

I"ll get some nosh in the pub around the corner from the HI and rock up at the casino probably about 6pm or so.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on June 22, 2013, 22:48:45 PM
Wonderful. Im on nights next week, finishing thursday ngiht, so will set off friday afternoon. will pm you my mobile number
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 23, 2013, 12:42:03 PM


Does the Cash Tour carry POY points?


This one is to be finalised Del.  We"re pulling together a Cash Tour landing page which will have all of the answers, will be up next weekend.


BUMP!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: SirPercival on June 23, 2013, 12:44:15 PM


For people like me who struggle to travel....

Online Comp dates....?????


To follow Bill, we thought we"d focus on live tonight.


Bump!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on June 23, 2013, 13:09:34 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on June 23, 2013, 16:12:59 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fluence on June 23, 2013, 19:16:19 PM



SUNDAY SIDE EVENTS

I am  a recent convert to PLO and seeing as most side events seem to be PLO anyway why not go the whole hog and state that every national will have a PLO event on the Sunday starting 30 minutes after the main event day 2. Pay-outs as normal but with a rankings table with points 1 – 9 for the final table which are accumulated over the season and added value for the winner of these rankings (e.g. a seat in the Monthly Deepstack at DTD). If a sponsor or APAT did not want to fund this then £1 added to each PLO buy in should cover this or get very close.

I don’t think such a PLO league exists live anywhere else.



Any scope for the league suggestion given that the schedule has announced PLO Sunday events for every Championship?


Damn you JP, im gonna have to stop making Day 2s as this looks like fun!


lol. I fail to make day 2"s without even trying.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on June 23, 2013, 19:58:54 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 24, 2013, 13:04:28 PM
Is it possible to get some official confirmation on how the Cash Tour is going to be run - as there"s nothing mentioning it in the player briefing...
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: APAT on June 24, 2013, 13:43:24 PM
We"ll add a thread on Cash Tour this evening Dave.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: dwh103 on June 24, 2013, 13:58:05 PM

We"ll add a thread on Cash Tour this evening Dave.


TY :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on June 24, 2013, 14:15:27 PM
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Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: mporter123 on July 12, 2013, 16:01:39 PM
Can the scoring mechanism for international team events more closely match that of payout structures for standard MTT"s this season please?

In the past, the scoring structure has been relatively flat which has encouraged play to be super tight with the correct strategy being laddering up the points. A top heavy scoring system will encourage play that is more in line with "normal" poker. Not a big gripe but I just find that type of poker more exciting to rail and, if I am lucky enough, play in.

Will also mean that we get through the STT"s much faster.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on July 12, 2013, 16:14:55 PM
I have to disagree, this isn"t "normal poker"...these are team events and team play (such as laddering) should be part of that.

As I recall, all of the last few team events have been squeakers where the final medal positions mostly weren"t known until very close to the end.

This is how it should be.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on July 12, 2013, 16:35:26 PM
I agree with Mark; F1 style points for the STTs for me and scoring at the Forum Team event should start much higher (e.g. 50th) otherwise it becomes a complete nitfest... why should a creative, unlucky player get 50 points less than a "sit out"
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on July 12, 2013, 16:41:30 PM
Agree that forum and pub team events should only reward those that get deep - silly to see people hanging on for another point when still 90 runners in the tourney.

For the international event scoring, I"m split.  I tend to agree that F1 style scoring is better, but the ramp up at the heavy end has to be significant to make it work. In the last event, if I recall correctly, it was 1 point per ladder jump until the last three when it became 2 points per ladder jump.....  I don"t think this has the desired effect in that it just went to a different level of flatness.... I would like to see 15, 12, 10, 8, etc.... or if we really want to reward STT winners, then 20, 15, 12, 10, 8, etc.

All that said, Paulie has a point (OMG - I agree with Paulie on something) that in the last event, it was such a squeaky bum ending that I would be inclined to change nothing.

Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: mporter123 on July 12, 2013, 16:59:07 PM


All that said, Paulie has a point (OMG - I agree with Paulie on something) that in the last event, it was such a squeaky bum ending that I would be inclined to change nothing.




Agree with this, it does make it more of a spectacle and the close finishes are great. Even if its more top heavy, you would still expect that to happen though, will always come down to that final MTT.

When I played it did mean that you had to nit it up which is fine, just not that enjoyable to play/rail. Obviously the enjoyment comes from repping for the team.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AMRN on July 12, 2013, 17:17:50 PM



All that said, Paulie has a point (OMG - I agree with Paulie on something) that in the last event, it was such a squeaky bum ending that I would be inclined to change nothing.




Agree with this, it does make it more of a spectacle and the close finishes are great. Even if its more top heavy, you would still expect that to happen though, will always come down to that final MTT.

When I played it did mean that you had to nit it up which is fine, just not that enjoyable to play/rail. Obviously the enjoyment comes from repping for the team.


there hasn"t been an MTT in the last couple of events - it"s been down to headsup medal playoffs. I"m not a fan of either, however for the sheer excitement factor, the HU playoffs were a fantastic ending to the event.

Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on July 12, 2013, 17:34:02 PM


there hasn"t been an MTT in the last couple of events - it"s been down to headsup medal playoffs. I"m not a fan of either, however for the sheer excitement factor, the HU playoffs were a fantastic ending to the event.



OMG...I agree with Steve on something! :)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Sugar_Free on July 12, 2013, 18:23:24 PM




All that said, Paulie has a point (OMG - I agree with Paulie on something) that in the last event, it was such a squeaky bum ending that I would be inclined to change nothing.




Agree with this, it does make it more of a spectacle and the close finishes are great. Even if its more top heavy, you would still expect that to happen though, will always come down to that final MTT.

When I played it did mean that you had to nit it up which is fine, just not that enjoyable to play/rail. Obviously the enjoyment comes from repping for the team.


there hasn"t been an MTT in the last couple of events - it"s been down to headsup medal playoffs. I"m not a fan of either, however for the sheer excitement factor, the HU playoffs were a fantastic ending to the event.




Actually there has, the Home Internationals in November had a final MTT then the heads up medal matches
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Curlarge on July 12, 2013, 20:50:45 PM



there hasn"t been an MTT in the last couple of events - it"s been down to headsup medal playoffs. I"m not a fan of either, however for the sheer excitement factor, the HU playoffs were a fantastic ending to the event.



OMG...I agree with Steve on something! :)


Get a room FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: MintTrav on July 12, 2013, 21:40:05 PM
IMO the team events that finished with an MTT have been far more exciting and enjoyable than those that finished with HU. The large number of possible outcomes and strategies needed to negotiate a very complex final and, indeed, last two tables made for some intriguing and hugely entertaining situations, especially for spectators. Much more enjoyable to climax with those than with than sterile HUs.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on July 12, 2013, 22:07:05 PM

IMO the team events that finished with an MTT have been far more exciting and enjoyable than those that finished with HU. The large number of possible outcomes and strategies needed to negotiate a very complex final and, indeed, last two tables made for some intriguing and hugely entertaining situations, especially for spectators. Much more enjoyable to climax with those than with than sterile HUs.


As a railbird, the probs with the mtt was the mass amount of points allowed
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Paulie_D on July 12, 2013, 22:16:39 PM

IMO the team events that finished with an MTT have been far more exciting and enjoyable than those that finished with HU. The large number of possible outcomes and strategies needed to negotiate a very complex final and, indeed, last two tables made for some intriguing and hugely entertaining situations, especially for spectators. Much more enjoyable to climax with those than with than sterile HUs.


I was much against the HU option and still am.

It always struck me in that it monstrously favoured the underdogs. The winningest team could be romping away with a massive points lead and then only take silver because they lost 3 out of 5 HU matches.

If we revert back to the MTT finale then a fighting finish is needed. Perhaps only points for the final table?

That should ensure that everyone actually fights for it and then it"s just a matter of getting the final points balance allowed for the MTT right.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: hi_am_chris on July 12, 2013, 22:21:54 PM
I like how the world cup of poker is/was run, teams playing sit n go"s to accrue a stack for the final table where only the top 8 or 6 teams qualify for. One player then plays until a "tag" or enforced swap occurs and somebody else plays. When your out your teams out, also liked that each team had a time out where they could ask their team mates but it wasnt that well used when someone had gone all in and they took their time out with aces ...
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on July 21, 2013, 10:48:26 AM


Fri 23 Aug 13   UKCOAP #1 Home International Championship   2   £50 + £5   DTD, Nottingham
Fri 23 Aug 13   UKCOAP #2 Omaha Championship   1   £50 + £5   DTD, Nottingham
Sat 24 Aug 13   UKCOAP #3 Six Max Championship   1   £50 + £5   DTD, Nottingham
Sat 24 Aug 13   UKCOAP #4 Cash Championship   1   £100 + £10   DTD, Nottingham
Sun 25 Aug 13   UKCOAP #5 UK Amateur Poker Championship   2   £100 + £10   DTD, Nottingham
Sun 25 Aug 13   UKCOAP #6 Open Championship   1   £200 + £20   DTD, Nottingham
Mon 26 Aug 13   UKCOAP #7 Heads Up Championship   1   £50 + £5   DTD, Nottingham



Any start times available yet fellas?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Michael Christison on July 25, 2013, 00:30:14 AM
More info on the Vegas Tourney would be great. I would like to play for the Graham Barkworth Foundation. All funds will be donated to the family.

Michael.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on August 17, 2013, 17:39:27 PM
Any news on the intended venue for the Prague leg of season 7 ?

Would like to contact my team ASAP to give plenty of time to arrange hotels etc..

Des, Leigh please  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on August 17, 2013, 18:22:15 PM
Lol England could announce Euros team b4 Scotland announce Home Ints Team!!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on August 18, 2013, 12:09:12 PM

Any news on the intended venue for the Prague leg of season 7 ?

Would like to contact my team ASAP to give plenty of time to arrange hotels etc..

Des, Leigh please  ;D


This official hotel is confirmed as follows:-

Andel"s Hotel
Stroupeznickeho 21
15000  Prague 5
Czech Republic

The events will be held at the Card Casino which is a few minutes walk away from Andels.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on August 18, 2013, 19:35:53 PM


Any news on the intended venue for the Prague leg of season 7 ?

Would like to contact my team ASAP to give plenty of time to arrange hotels etc..

Des, Leigh please  ;D


This official hotel is confirmed as follows:-

Andel"s Hotel
Stroupeznickeho 21
15000  Prague 5
Czech Republic

The events will be held at the Card Casino which is a few minutes walk away from Andels.


Awesome thanks Des !!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: s4ooter on August 18, 2013, 19:39:30 PM



Any news on the intended venue for the Prague leg of season 7 ?

Would like to contact my team ASAP to give plenty of time to arrange hotels etc..

Des, Leigh please  ;D


This official hotel is confirmed as follows:-

Andel"s Hotel
Stroupeznickeho 21
15000  Prague 5
Czech Republic

The events will be held at the Card Casino which is a few minutes walk away from Andels.


Awesome thanks Des !!!


Now Carl can get his team out b4 Scotland get their 1st team haha
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Michael Christison on August 22, 2013, 13:53:12 PM

Hope to see you all on November 9th.

:)

Nice line up APAT.

Mike
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on October 09, 2013, 15:26:37 PM
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on October 09, 2013, 16:39:34 PM
Yep, will be out with this next week Champ.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on October 09, 2013, 17:04:03 PM
Quick question Des, a few of us that are heading to Vegas were wondering which one of the APAT boss" will be leading the show in Vegas?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on October 09, 2013, 17:32:47 PM

Yep, will be out with this next week Champ.


Next Week?
Next Week?
An actual defined and stated deadline!!!

Who are you and where"s Des?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on October 10, 2013, 08:04:28 AM

Yep, will be out with this next week Champ.


Wiiiiiiiii thanks boss!!
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on October 19, 2013, 10:48:48 AM

Quick question Des, a few of us that are heading to Vegas were wondering which one of the APAT boss" will be leading the show in Vegas?


Any news on this?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: fandango on October 19, 2013, 16:07:09 PM
 Js

Yep, will be out with this next week Champ.


Bump ^^^^^^   ;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on October 19, 2013, 19:00:28 PM

Js

Yep, will be out with this next week Champ.


Bump ^^^^^^   ;D


get in the queue :p
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on October 20, 2013, 16:49:30 PM


Quick question Des, a few of us that are heading to Vegas were wondering which one of the APAT boss" will be leading the show in Vegas?


Any news on this?


Adam Sharples has agreed to be our man in the trenches in Vegas Stu.  We are not going to do a live update on the event due to the time zone differences, but Adam will write a tournament report and ensure everything runs smoothly with the venue.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on October 20, 2013, 17:08:36 PM

Js

Yep, will be out with this next week Champ.


Bump ^^^^^^   ;D


Have put my thoughts in the APAT Blog (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14363.msg221127#msg221127) Carl.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on October 20, 2013, 17:11:18 PM



Quick question Des, a few of us that are heading to Vegas were wondering which one of the APAT boss" will be leading the show in Vegas?


Any news on this?


Adam Sharples has agreed to be our man in the trenches in Vegas Stu.  We are not going to do a live update on the event due to the time zone differences, but Adam will write a tournament report and ensure everything runs smoothly with the venue.


Cool, cheers Des :) Looking forward to this massively.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Optional on October 26, 2013, 00:46:35 AM
If here is any news about the venue where the wcoap will be please let me know. I have to geta cheap hotel. Thx
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement lppl pontins
Post by: galvo68 on November 01, 2013, 14:08:59 PM
I AM GOING TO ATTEND THE 4 DAY EVENT AT PONTINS SOUTHPORT ON THE 28TH FEB,IVE LOOKED ON THERE SITE FOR ACCOMODATION AND THEY SAY ITS FULL,WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO BOOK ACCOMODATION THROUGH THE LPPL AND IF SO WHO WITH.CHEERS
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: IrishTom on November 01, 2013, 18:23:55 PM

I AM GOING TO ATTEND THE 4 DAY EVENT AT PONTINS SOUTHPORT ON THE 28TH FEB,IVE LOOKED ON THERE SITE FOR ACCOMODATION AND THEY SAY ITS FULL,WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO BOOK ACCOMODATION THROUGH THE LPPL AND IF SO WHO WITH.CHEERS


Rita it says "full" because we have the site booked "privately" (along with a group of "line dancers" in the other bar/venue!) -  we will provide details of how to book etc before the end of Nov.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: galvo68 on November 01, 2013, 18:39:52 PM
THANKS A LOT IRISH TOM THATS VERY HELPFUL
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Optional on November 07, 2013, 21:17:35 PM
Irish tom can you tell me where the ecoap will be on easter weekend.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Des on November 07, 2013, 21:30:43 PM

Irish tom can you tell me where the ecoap will be on easter weekend.



Hi Stefan - this will be confirmed within two weeks.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Matt D on November 13, 2013, 15:09:38 PM
Hi all, I"ve updated the season 7 rankings here: http://www.apat.com/index.php/rankings/

Took a fair few hours!

Take a look, if you spot any errors please let me know. One possible error is that you"ll be listed twice. e.g. if you"ve reported your name slightly different each time you"ve played, say: Steve, Steven, Stevey, Steve-o, etc. Then I may not have spotted all instances of this, and you"ll be listed more than once.

Another issue is that due to WH never providing us the full list of finishing positions for the English online events, some players are listed by their WH nickname only. If this applies to you, please let me know so I can change for your real name.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: adilong1 on November 13, 2013, 16:53:53 PM
Erm, I"m not on it? I know it"s only two points but..... ???
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Matt D on November 13, 2013, 17:13:36 PM

Erm, I"m not on it? I know it"s only two points but..... ???


aha. Scottish online are indeed missing. Will add them in now.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Matt D on November 13, 2013, 18:13:10 PM

Erm, I"m not on it? I know it"s only two points but..... ???


Scottish Online main + sides now added.

I haven"t gone through the whole list of names and added Hendon Mob links in yet, so many will be missing.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 26, 2013, 20:39:34 PM


Irish tom can you tell me where the ecoap will be on easter weekend.



Hi Stefan - this will be confirmed within two weeks.


Any news yet ?  (It"s been three weeks now  ;) )
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Optional on November 27, 2013, 19:04:03 PM
You are so right Leigh  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: IrishTom on November 27, 2013, 19:37:31 PM
No!  But very soon.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Fatcatstu on November 27, 2013, 22:38:00 PM

No!  But very soon.


Anyone ever seen Des and Tom in the same room?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: sausages1981 on November 28, 2013, 20:57:55 PM
Is Newcastle still a TBC for the venue on Sat March 1?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: IrishTom on November 29, 2013, 01:40:16 AM

Is Newcastle still a TBC for the venue on Sat March 1?


It is.  We hope to clarify/confirm all WCOAP events "asap"! - and that is not tongue in cheek - if we could clarify today we would - what we don"t want to do is say a, b, c and then end up in a week, or two, or a month, or whatever, by saying sorry, it is now x, y and z.

I KNOW this is very frustrating, but trust me, it is no more frustrating to you than it is to us.

All events that are TBC are subject to confirmation - I would not be surprised to see them confirmed, cancelled, amended, venue changed, date changed, or whatever - and although I accept this is both inconvenient (at this time) and to a point unacceptable, we cannot confirm without being 100% certain - when we are 100% certain we will confirm details - I believe this will be "very soon" - but I"m also conscious that nothing ever goes according to plan - so very soon could be 1 day, 1 week, 1 month... but I assure you, as soon as we are "certain" - you will be informed.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: AJDUK on November 29, 2013, 02:26:09 AM
It didn"t used to be like this - things have definitely changed.
With the main tours we know months in advance where they are. Are the venues much more hard ball these days or is it something else?
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: IrishTom on November 29, 2013, 02:44:41 AM

It didn"t used to be like this - things have definitely changed.
With the main tours we know months in advance where they are. Are the venues much more hard ball these days or is it something else?


Sorry fella - for Season 7 we were/are unable to confirm the venue/events/dates for the WCOAP - aware it is THE WCOAP - but it is only ONE event (although tbc is more than one venue!) and it is still months (5) away, and I really do apologise as I know it is far from ideal - I HOPE to confirm all details for WCOAP within a week - some things are beyond us, but until we"re certain (ie venue confirmed, events confirmed etc) then unfortunately all I can offer now is tbc.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: Billy01113 on December 11, 2013, 20:56:38 PM
Any News about the location (City) of the WCOAP? For those of us from other countrys this would be a very valuable information to plan our travels.
Title: Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
Post by: cashman on December 15, 2013, 00:10:06 AM

Any News about the location (City) of the WCOAP? For those of us from other countrys this would be a very valuable information to plan our travels.


I"m wondering this aswell