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Title: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: poker_jason on December 14, 2013, 22:21:03 PM
okerStars Hand #108530489557: Tournament #828977080, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2013/12/14 22:04:14 UTC [2013/12/14 17:04:14 ET]
Table "828977080 74" 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: rsMEAT (12230 in chips)
Seat 2: IF-KilMister (20260 in chips)
Seat 3: TeamWispy (10013 in chips)
Seat 4: 7twin7 (36345 in chips)
Seat 5: kittymore (24175 in chips)
Seat 6: Egor Salin (5812 in chips)
Seat 7: nightbully (24555 in chips)
Seat 8: Tom jerry 01 (13723 in chips)
Seat 9: Eremes174 (4061 in chips)
rsMEAT: posts the ante 100
IF-KilMister: posts the ante 100
TeamWispy: posts the ante 100
7twin7: posts the ante 100
kittymore: posts the ante 100
Egor Salin: posts the ante 100
nightbully: posts the ante 100
Tom jerry 01: posts the ante 100
Eremes174: posts the ante 100
nightbully: posts small blind 400
Tom jerry 01: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nightbully [6d Qd]
Eremes174: folds
rsMEAT: folds
IF-KilMister: calls 800
TeamWispy: folds
7twin7: folds
kittymore: folds
Egor Salin: folds
nightbully: calls 400
Tom jerry 01: checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 5d Td]
nightbully: checks
Tom jerry 01: checks
IF-KilMister: bets 1600
nightbully: calls 1600
Tom jerry 01: folds
*** TURN *** [2d 5d Td] [Kd]
nightbully: checks
IF-KilMister: bets 2400
nightbully: calls 2400
*** RIVER *** [2d 5d Td Kd] [9s]
nightbully: checks
IF-KilMister: bets 5360
nightbully: calls 5360
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IF-KilMister: shows [Ad Jd] (a flush, Ace high)
nightbully: mucks hand
IF-KilMister collected 22020 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22020 | Rake 0
Board [2d 5d Td Kd 9s]
Seat 1: rsMEAT folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: IF-KilMister showed [Ad Jd] and won (22020) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: TeamWispy folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: 7twin7 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: kittymore folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: Egor Salin (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 7: nightbully (small blind) mucked [6d Qd]
Seat 8: Tom jerry 01 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Eremes174 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Title: Re: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: s4ooter on December 14, 2013, 22:54:58 PM
u have 2nd nuts so its not dreadful

Would need reasons not to call it off here
Title: Re: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: dwh103 on December 15, 2013, 11:40:51 AM
Peel pre is nasty. Can"t play this profitably from the SB with a 30BB stack.
Title: Re: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: CW86 on December 15, 2013, 13:42:36 PM

Peel pre is nasty. Can"t play this profitably from the SB with a 30BB stack.
Title: Re: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: AMRN on December 15, 2013, 14:08:46 PM

Peel pre is nasty. Can"t play this profitably from the SB with a 30BB stack.


^^This!! Standard fold pre from the SB - only ever going to get in trouble making up with Q6.

As played, you can"t get away..... but then that"s why you shouldn"t be in the hand ;)  
Title: Re: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: poker_jason on December 15, 2013, 14:43:31 PM
Surprised that we should not call here for 400 into a 3100 pot with 29BB behind. (btw  I expected this BB to raise <5% of hands)

Where is my cut off point - 2 gap suited?

Ideally we"d need to be deeper.

Okay, clear consensus that I have leak in my game...... The SB/BB cost me a big(ger) finish last night in the Big $11 as I spewed off 150K + chips in SB/BB.

Thanks, just need to remember to fold pre.
Title: Re: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: Swinebag on December 16, 2013, 00:08:10 AM
Forget pot odds here Jason

Your reverse implied odds are the reason you fold here pre. You are generally only winning a small pot and losing a big one when you flick in the call here from the SB.

As played you got it in with the second nuts, no escape there for me.
Title: Re: Fishy Call or Cooler??
Post by: George2Loose on December 27, 2013, 12:37:53 PM
Limping is fine IMO as long as we don"t go broke when we flop a pair. When we flop this good however it"s going in. Don"t think reverse implied odds are relevant when we flop a floooosh