Post by: Des on December 22, 2013, 18:08:47 PM
Reserve or Buy Your 2014 WCOAP Seat:
APAT announce largest ever World Championship of Amateur Poker
* Sixteen bracelet events to take place at Aspers Casino, London.
* Seven day festival will run between April 15th & 21st, with seats going on sale from Monday January 13th.
* Wide array of poker variants and formats, with buy in"s ranging from £55 to £220.
* Three trips to Las Vegas added in addition to Championship Bracelets, Medals and an estimated prize pool of over £50,000.
APAT are pleased to announce details of the sixth annual World Championship of Amateur Poker (WCOAP), which will take place at Aspers Casino in Stratford, London between April 15th and 21st, 2014.
The week long festival; the largest WCOAP ever, will offer fifteen bracelet events in poker variants including No Limit Hold'em, Stud, Omaha, Horse and Razz. Tournament formats played will include Team, Six Max, Heads Up, Shootout, Mixed, Cash, High Roller, Antes Only and a unique season concluding Champions Final, which will see APAT's live and online Gold medallists return to battle it out for a winner-take-all trip to Las Vegas in Summer.
The WCOAP main event and season seven rankings winners will also be awarded added value trips to Las Vegas in the finale to APAT's seventh season. In addition each event will award Gold, Silver and Bronze medals, while Champions will receive a highly prized WCOAP Bracelet.
All events will be played over one day apart from the World Amateur Poker Championship (three day) and World Amateur Team Championship (two day). Buy in"s will start at £55 and raise to £110 for the two multi day events, while the High Roller event will cost £220 to enter.
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com. Qualifying satellites will also be available.
WCOAP SCHEDULE
| Date | Time | Event | Buy In | Capacity | |||
| Apr 15 | 14.00 | WCOAP #1 No Limit Hold'em Championship | £55 | 120 | |||
| Apr 15 | 18.00 | WCOAP #2 Stud Championship | £55 | 40 | |||
| Apr 16 | 12.00 | WCOAP #3 High Roller Championship | £220 | 60 | |||
| Apr 16 | 18.00 | WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship | £55 | 50 | |||
| Apr 17 | 12.00 | WCOAP #5 Antes Only Championship | £55 | 100 | |||
| Apr 17 | 14.00 | WCOAP #6 World Amateur Team Championship 2 Day | £110 | 16 Countries | |||
| Apr 17 | 19.00 | WCOAP #7 HORSE Championship | £55 | 40 | |||
| Apr 18 | 12.00 | WCOAP #8 Shootout Championship | £55 | 100 | |||
| Apr 18 | 16.00 | WCOAP #9 Six Max Championship | £55 | 160 | |||
| Apr 18 | 20.00 | WCOAP #10 Razz Championship | £55 | 40 | |||
| Apr 19 | 12.00 | WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship 3 Day | £110 | 400 | |||
| Apr 19 | 14.00 | WCOAP #12 PL Omaha 08 Championship | £55 | 80 | |||
| Apr 19 | 19.00 | WCOAP #13 Cash Championship | £55 | 40 | |||
| Apr 20 | 14.00 | WCOAP #14 Pot Limit Omaha Championship | £55 | 80 | |||
| Apr 20 | 20.00 | WCOAP #15 Season Seven Championship | Invite | 32 | |||
| Apr 21 | 14.00 | WCOAP #16 Heads Up Championship | £55 | 128 |
* Buy ins quoted above include a standard 10% registration fee, eg £50 + £5 is quoted as £55.
(http://www.apat.com/images/tn2.jpg)
Post by: Des on December 22, 2013, 18:10:04 PM
Post by: Des on December 22, 2013, 18:15:39 PM
Post by: fandango on December 22, 2013, 18:17:26 PM
Post by: hi_am_chris on December 22, 2013, 18:18:00 PM
What does the mix game championship comprise of?
Post by: Des on December 22, 2013, 18:20:23 PM
Hi Des,
What does the mix game championship comprise of?
It"s a two format mixed event Chris - Hold'em and PLO.
Post by: fandango on December 22, 2013, 18:26:11 PM
Shame they are both on the same day as the ME :( would of loved to be able to play both variants, think most would agree Omaha is very popular, surely move Razz or mixed to either Saturday or Sunday and let the Omaha freaks play both variants ;D
Post by: Des on December 22, 2013, 18:31:26 PM
Love the fact that there is PLO8 as well as PLO.. :)
Shame they are both on the same day as the ME :( would of loved to be able to play both variants, think most would agree Omaha is very popular, surely move Razz or mixed to either Saturday or Sunday and let the Omaha freaks play both variants ;D
Both Razz and Mixed are late kick off events with a far smaller capacity than the Omaha events. Doing it this way we felt players could come in for the weekend and get one of the Omaha events plus their choice of day 1 in the main. Obviously it"ll never be perfect! :)
Post by: Des on December 22, 2013, 18:33:19 PM
Impressive !.... ermm dunno if i can swing 6 days though, but will try ;D
Seven days even!! ;D Agree on that though Carl - mind you we are expecting a lot of demand locally for the events earlier in the series.
Post by: ayresi on December 22, 2013, 18:35:42 PM
Post by: mporter123 on December 22, 2013, 18:36:45 PM
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on December 22, 2013, 18:41:22 PM
Post by: adilong1 on December 22, 2013, 18:42:53 PM
Post by: Sugar_Free on December 22, 2013, 18:45:39 PM
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 22, 2013, 18:59:11 PM
Post by: mporter123 on December 22, 2013, 19:03:44 PM
Is Aspers London the one is Stratford?
Yea it is Rod.
Could do with finding some giant house for all of us and renting it all week. At first glance hotels will be very pricey if you want to do more than a couple of nights.
Wherefore art thou travel guru?
Post by: gunnerdamo on December 22, 2013, 19:30:40 PM
Post by: s4ooter on December 22, 2013, 19:32:05 PM
Quick one tho
PLO 40 cap? 10 handed?! Please no!!!
Post by: Paulie_D on December 22, 2013, 19:48:08 PM
Is Aspers London the one is Stratford?
Yea it is Rod.
Could do with finding some giant house for all of us and renting it all week. At first glance hotels will be very pricey if you want to do more than a couple of nights.
Wherefore art thou travel guru?
I have some preliminary links but I will be aiming to do a proper Travel Tips tomorrow given time.
The two cheapest so far:
Travelodge - London Stratford (http://www.travelodge.co.uk/hotels/522/London-Stratford-hotel)
Ibis - London Stratford (http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/hotel-3099-ibis-london-stratford/index.shtml)
Post by: CW86 on December 22, 2013, 20:03:54 PM
Quick question though Des, will the high roller include ranking points this time around?
Post by: s4ooter on December 22, 2013, 20:04:27 PM
Costs as much as my Summer Holiday.
Post by: amcgrath1uk on December 22, 2013, 20:06:01 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 22, 2013, 20:09:26 PM
Holy Moly 6x£45.
Costs as much as my Summer Holiday.
APAT appreciates your commitment. :)
Obviously, not everyone would manage all 7 days but c.£45 is about the same as you would expect to pay in Nottingham.
Of course, I haven"t done a proper search yet...Travelodge and Premier Inn will be a few weeks in putting out deals for Easter yet.
It"s still a long way off.
Post by: suzanne on December 22, 2013, 20:17:27 PM
I assume it"s 2 day 1"s?
and day 2 is when please?
Post by: Des on December 22, 2013, 20:23:55 PM
I assume it"s 2 day 1"s?
and day 2 is when please?
Two day 1s yep and day 2 on Monday.
Post by: Lambert180 on December 22, 2013, 20:32:48 PM
Post by: Careybear on December 22, 2013, 20:55:02 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 22, 2013, 21:15:52 PM
I stayed in a hotel down the road from there and it was £30 per night...nothing to write home about but nice and cheap.
Specifics please.
There are quite a few B&B type places along London Road which is sort of the main thoroughfare....you can find some on various booking sites.
I will be searching more extensively over the coming days.
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 22, 2013, 21:31:46 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 22, 2013, 21:38:28 PM
Im afraid that it being in London and the expense that comes with that....
I keep seeing this...and, with all due respect to Stu, I"m not sure that it"s true.
Hotel prices are comparable to Nottingham and surely a train ticket isn"t that much more?
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on December 22, 2013, 21:42:49 PM
Post by: Careybear on December 22, 2013, 21:43:29 PM
I stayed in a hotel down the road from there and it was £30 per night...nothing to write home about but nice and cheap.
Specifics please.
There are quite a few B&B type places along London Road which is sort of the main thoroughfare....you can find some on various booking sites.
I will be searching more extensively over the coming days.
It was down Romford Road and has a McDonald"s across the road and i ate there around 3 a.m. both nights I stayed..just looked it up on google maps...it"s called the Newham Hotel. It may be more a night now...it doesn"t say on the site..you have to contact them on their site..no online booking it looks like.
Post by: dwh103 on December 22, 2013, 21:46:11 PM
1200 - 6max
1800 - Shootout
2000 - Razz
Would it be possible to have the Shootout at 12? 90% of the field will be gone by 6pm so you can increase your participation in the others, whilst minimising the issues with players buying seats and then pulling out as they"re still in the 6max (depending on whatever rules imposed re: pre-regging).
Post by: s4ooter on December 22, 2013, 21:48:17 PM
That"s a few extra nights in hotel and other expenses of being away (food etc) plus extra events to pay for, and extra holidays to use at work.
Not knocking the WCOAP, I"m just not sure I"ll make the whole thing due to the factors.
Post by: technolog on December 22, 2013, 21:55:00 PM
http://www.connaughthousehotel.com/ (http://www.connaughthousehotel.com/)
Post by: Careybear on December 22, 2013, 21:56:55 PM
Carey..
p.s. Paulie..always here to help with accomodation :) I"m so happy it"s at Aspers..i love aspers!!!
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 22, 2013, 22:06:45 PM
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 22, 2013, 22:09:07 PM
Im afraid that it being in London and the expense that comes with that....
I keep seeing this...and, with all due respect to Stu, I"m not sure that it"s true.
Hotel prices are comparable to Nottingham and surely a train ticket isn"t that much more?
Its the overall prices mate, food and drink ARE mroe expensive (you mjust remember, we northern types are poor) And i have just bought a new car after the last one gave up.
Train tickets to go to london for the NFL were pricey, i cant see it changing really.
Post by: AMRN on December 22, 2013, 22:17:17 PM
Im afraid that it being in London and the expense that comes with that....
I keep seeing this...and, with all due respect to Stu, I"m not sure that it"s true.
Hotel prices are comparable to Nottingham and surely a train ticket isn"t that much more?
I"m surprised that anyone can deny that London is significantly more expensive than almost anywhere else in the UK. FFS they even charge extra to drive on most of their roads! Hotels are way more expensive than anywhere I"ve ever been in the UK, drinks and food are over-priced, car parking is limited and over-priced, etc etc etc
However, it"s a great place to visit. Not sure I can afford it this time though.
Post by: Paulie_D on December 22, 2013, 23:02:38 PM
I"m surprised that anyone can deny that London is significantly more expensive than almost anywhere else in the UK. FFS they even charge extra to drive on most of their roads! Hotels are way more expensive than anywhere I"ve ever been in the UK, drinks and food are over-priced, car parking is limited and over-priced, etc etc etc
However, it"s a great place to visit. Not sure I can afford it this time though.
You"re thinking of Central London which Stratford isn"t.
The hotel prices are comparable to Nottingham (I"ve checked), it"s nowhere near the Congestion Area, there is, I think, free parking at the Westgate (that I will have to check) and food and drink prices outside of the centre are sometimes cheaper than other cities I could mention.
Still at least they won"t be serving any of that Northern muck.
Each to their own though. More seats for the rest of us.
Post by: Paulie_D on December 22, 2013, 23:08:27 PM
Paulie, advice if you would be so kind sir. Is it best to just book up now the prices are decent enough or wait and see if a sale comes on?
TBH...if you can find a price you are happy with now...I would jump on it.
By all means see if you can find a cancellable option (Booking.com is great for that).
Waiting for a deal that may not come while regular prices rise is an excrutiating pain.
Post by: Paulie_D on December 22, 2013, 23:13:12 PM
After 11pm things start to get a little thin. The tubes are basically closed by midnight and the night bus service is handy but is not exactly every 10 minutes.
Staying relatively close would probably be your best option but a shared taxi between a few people to a slightly more distant hotel might save you a few quid here and there.
Post by: sleeves on December 22, 2013, 23:18:51 PM
Post by: pewpwagoon on December 23, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Post by: Pilf on December 23, 2013, 04:01:36 AM
For those worrying about cost, East London/Stratford has so many cheap places to stay I"d suggest this will be as cheap as anywhere on the calendar.
You should get a double/twin room for £50 even in the week within spitting distance of Stratford. Think of all those hotels for the olympics that need guests now it"s not 2012!
Plus, if you are Hi_Am_Chris you can stay on my sofa! It"s a 35 minute overground journey away but it"s FREE! For the days Chris isn"t coming down, I have a spare sofa! Team Polska get 1st dibs.
Post by: hi_am_chris on December 23, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on December 23, 2013, 09:30:14 AM
I do think the schedule needs tweaking though. If you look at Day 3 there is no individual event till the evening so if players are making the effort to get there early in the series that leaves a holw for those not in the team event, which will be the majority of English players. Can this be looked at please?
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
Post by: CW86 on December 23, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
A great initiative by APAT which should be applauded and I will do what I can to get involved / support.
I do think the schedule needs tweaking though. If you look at Day 3 there is no individual event till the evening so if players are making the effort to get there early in the series that leaves a holw for those not in the team event, which will be the majority of English players. Can this be looked at please?
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 23, 2013, 13:27:43 PM
Is Aspers London the one is Stratford?
Yea it is Rod.
Could do with finding some giant house for all of us and renting it all week. At first glance hotels will be very pricey if you want to do more than a couple of nights.
Wherefore art thou travel guru?
This one looks OK, it is in the London area too, reckon the owners might lend it to us if we asked nicely like.
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a531/Steve_Roderick/house_zps01e01da8.jpg)
Wonder if we can contact them, where did I put my contact list?
Post by: galvo68 on December 23, 2013, 13:53:38 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 23, 2013, 14:08:13 PM
after seing the wcoap 2014 will be at aspers London will the dates above still be the same as I have booked hotel for then its a 2 day event cheers
The Main Event will be a 3 day event with 2 day ones.
Without knowing what has been booked it"s hard to assist further.
Post by: Slim Chance on December 23, 2013, 16:05:50 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 23, 2013, 16:24:05 PM
Am I right in assuming that the Omaha Hilo is Fixed limit?
Christ, I hope not....why spoil a perfectly good O8 game with Limit?
Cash LO8 sure...tournaments...PLO8 all the way.
Post by: Paulie_D on December 23, 2013, 16:24:38 PM
LINKY (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14828.msg224984#msg224984)
Post by: kohan on December 23, 2013, 21:35:03 PM
I"m surprised that anyone can deny that London is significantly more expensive than almost anywhere else in the UK. FFS they even charge extra to drive on most of their roads! Hotels are way more expensive than anywhere I"ve ever been in the UK, drinks and food are over-priced, car parking is limited and over-priced, etc etc etc
However, it"s a great place to visit. Not sure I can afford it this time though.
You"re thinking of Central London which Stratford isn"t.
The hotel prices are comparable to Nottingham (I"ve checked), it"s nowhere near the Congestion Area, there is, I think, free parking at the Westgate (that I will have to check) and food and drink prices outside of the centre are sometimes cheaper than other cities I could mention.
Still at least they won"t be serving any of that Northern muck.
Each to their own though. More seats for the rest of us.
hi paulie i have just contacted aspers and they confirmed that the car park prices are monday - friday £5 for 24hours and sat/sun £8 for 24 hours
Post by: Paulie_D on December 23, 2013, 22:38:13 PM
hi paulie i have just contacted aspers and they confirmed that the car park prices are monday - friday £5 for 24hours and sat/sun £8 for 24 hours
Thanks for that...it confirms my own sources.
Noted in the Travel Tips link.
Post by: mylesfdo on December 24, 2013, 15:52:39 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 24, 2013, 16:17:52 PM
Not sure if answered before but is ME 2 Day 1"s on 19th & 20th with same starting time pls guys?
Seems likely.
Post by: Joker161 on December 24, 2013, 16:58:09 PM
Sadly I teach at one of those schools that"s decided to have Easter holidays BEFORE Easter, so I am back at school until Thursday 17th April. Will do my best to make Friday and the ME one day. PLO8 is the choice of the Omaha events, I think. Lots of fun!
Post by: Slim Chance on December 26, 2013, 13:05:39 PM
Am I right in assuming that the Omaha Hilo is Fixed limit?
Christ, I hope not....why spoil a perfectly good O8 game with Limit?
Cash LO8 sure...tournaments...PLO8 all the way.
It"s just that the Omaha tournament has "PL" at the beginning stating it is pot limit, but the Omaha8 doesn"t have PL at the beginning implying that it is not Pot Limit- hence the conclusion that it is Fixed Limit. Actually I don"t think that Fixed Limit ruins the game. Fixed Limit & Pot Limit are both good games in their own right. Fixed Limit gets more action so requires a different skillset.
Post by: Robbiebox on December 27, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
Am I right in assuming that the Omaha Hilo is Fixed limit?
Christ, I hope not....why spoil a perfectly good O8 game with Limit?
Cash LO8 sure...tournaments...PLO8 all the way.
It"s just that the Omaha tournament has "PL" at the beginning stating it is pot limit, but the Omaha8 doesn"t have PL at the beginning implying that it is not Pot Limit- hence the conclusion that it is Fixed Limit. Actually I don"t think that Fixed Limit ruins the game. Fixed Limit & Pot Limit are both good games in their own right. Fixed Limit gets more action so requires a different skillset.
This could do with clarifying. It is listed as limit as it stands, but as Paulie and many others would like (inc me ;)) to see this run as Pot Limit. Limit O8 tourneys are common in the States, but never seen one here in the UK.
Post by: KarmaDope on December 27, 2013, 11:36:23 AM
Post by: Optional on December 27, 2013, 14:37:59 PM
Hotel and flights are already booked.
I just want to know how the purchase of the events will work. Will it be like in 2012 that i can buy in via the poker room client or just add my name in a list at the forum like wcoap this year?
Can"t wait until april....
Post by: Paulie_D on December 27, 2013, 15:06:51 PM
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com. Qualifying satellites will also be available.
Post by: Optional on December 27, 2013, 18:05:48 PM
Post by: AMRN on December 27, 2013, 20:45:19 PM
IMO (and this is really my own opinion but hopefully some of you agree) Limit Omaha 8 should be left to the cash games only and PLO8 should be left to tournaments only.
Please don"t consider running this as Limit. I play so much PLO8 online and am figuring out how to make sure I can get to London to play a live PLO8 tournament. Omaha Hi/Lo is made for Pot Limit when it comes to tournaments - Limit 08 is just the most boring event you can possibly imagine, unless playing higher stakes cash.
Post by: Des on December 27, 2013, 23:29:07 PM
Post by: MintTrav on December 28, 2013, 00:20:49 AM
Post by: IrishTom on December 28, 2013, 00:29:14 AM
Having won the WCOAP PLO H/L (online) last year, I would like to express an opinion on the Limit/PLO H/L controversy.
and we"d like to hear it John ;)
Post by: duke3016 on December 28, 2013, 00:39:56 AM
Having won the WCOAP PLO H/L (online) last year, I would like to express an opinion on the Limit/PLO H/L controversy.
and we"d like to hear it John ;)
really ?
Post by: MintTrav on December 28, 2013, 01:37:26 AM
Having won the WCOAP PLO H/L (online) last year, I would like to express an opinion on the Limit/PLO H/L controversy.
and we"d like to hear it John ;)
Well, I dunno really. I don"t have an opinion on it as such - I"ll leave that to the Omaha experts. I just didn"t want to be left out.
Post by: dwh103 on December 30, 2013, 17:02:02 PM
The Friday has:
1200 - 6max
1800 - Shootout
2000 - Razz
Would it be possible to have the Shootout at 12? 90% of the field will be gone by 6pm so you can increase your participation in the others, whilst minimising the issues with players buying seats and then pulling out as they"re still in the 6max (depending on whatever rules imposed re: pre-regging).
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
Whilst it"s nice to quote people that agree with me, it would seem a sensible suggestion.
What rules will be in place for pre-regging? For that particular day I"d probably buy-in for both the 6max and Razz - can I do so, when do I need to confirm my Razz seat if I"m still in the 6max etc etc?
Post by: Bigfella42 on December 31, 2013, 10:57:11 AM
Thanks.
Post by: CW86 on December 31, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
The Friday has:
1200 - 6max
1800 - Shootout
2000 - Razz
Would it be possible to have the Shootout at 12? 90% of the field will be gone by 6pm so you can increase your participation in the others, whilst minimising the issues with players buying seats and then pulling out as they"re still in the 6max (depending on whatever rules imposed re: pre-regging).
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
Whilst it"s nice to quote people that agree with me, it would seem a sensible suggestion.
What rules will be in place for pre-regging? For that particular day I"d probably buy-in for both the 6max and Razz - can I do so, when do I need to confirm my Razz seat if I"m still in the 6max etc etc?
Actually Dave, the more i think about this, the more i think this format works!
Post by: Des on December 31, 2013, 13:50:56 PM
The Friday has:
1200 - 6max
1800 - Shootout
2000 - Razz
Would it be possible to have the Shootout at 12? 90% of the field will be gone by 6pm so you can increase your participation in the others, whilst minimising the issues with players buying seats and then pulling out as they"re still in the 6max (depending on whatever rules imposed re: pre-regging).
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
I also agree with Dave re the shootout.
Whilst it"s nice to quote people that agree with me, it would seem a sensible suggestion.
What rules will be in place for pre-regging? For that particular day I"d probably buy-in for both the 6max and Razz - can I do so, when do I need to confirm my Razz seat if I"m still in the 6max etc etc?
Actually Dave, the more i think about this, the more i think this format works!
It"s a good suggestion but I would have a concern in starting the Six Max late in the day. We expect that to have a huge field. That said, we can see if we can get the Six off at 3pm or 4pm and we might have a win win.
Post by: Paulie_D on January 02, 2014, 15:35:05 PM
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com.
I may need to move some money around...could someone please clarify what this means?
Are we talking "click-fest"? I"m assuming that we will not be using the online poker software?
Post by: Billy01113 on January 02, 2014, 22:54:35 PM
Post by: cashman on January 03, 2014, 02:19:44 AM
It"s Day 1a, Day 1b and Day 2 with 200 players on each day and all remaining players from both days coming back for day 2
Post by: MikeSlee on January 03, 2014, 10:40:50 AM
Keep up the good work.
Post by: Des on January 03, 2014, 10:48:46 AM
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com.
I may need to move some money around...could someone please clarify what this means?
Are we talking "click-fest"? I"m assuming that we will not be using the online poker software?
Hi Paulie - we"re still dotting a few i"s on this but it"s likely there will be seat reservation and online buy in from day one. I"d hold off moving money anywhere until those details are confirmed on 13th though.
Post by: whiskeyjack58 on January 04, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
I am new to apat. Can someone tell me the difference between register for these tournaments and reserve a seat please.
Also, How do I register/reserve ?
Post by: IrishTom on January 04, 2014, 16:06:37 PM
Post by: MCTachyon on January 04, 2014, 19:34:18 PM
I"m interested in coming down and playing a few of these events. Is the number of seats available capped for each event?
If so, what are the chances of reserving a seat at a date later than 13th Jan.
Ta
Post by: GatlingGob on January 05, 2014, 15:30:20 PM
ROD
THS
Post by: IrishTom on January 06, 2014, 10:38:59 AM
Post by: fandango on January 08, 2014, 20:23:03 PM
Awesome schedual which I wanted to play every day, was thinking of playing the stud on Tuesday, then the mixed game Wendsday etc etc..
But after trotting up all round costs I"m gonna have to miss first couple of days, doing this I save £300 in hotel, buyins and car parking costs even before Emma"s bar bill and food.
Looks a smashing venue but a little gutted about not being at DTD :(
Hope next season we can go back to our beloved holy grail of venues.
Post by: Paulie_D on January 09, 2014, 17:11:40 PM
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com.
I may need to move some money around...could someone please clarify what this means?
Are we talking "click-fest"? I"m assuming that we will not be using the online poker software?
Hi Paulie - we"re still dotting a few i"s on this but it"s likely there will be seat reservation and online buy in from day one. I"d hold off moving money anywhere until those details are confirmed on 13th though.
Interest is building and I"m getting PM"d a few questions which I"m struggling to answer at this late date.
With buy-in & reservations due to go live on Monday, perhaps I"m overthinking but with some of the capped seat numbers I can see rush buying of side event seats.
Are we talking a reservation fee that will cover the WCOAP festival and players then put their names down for multiple events?
I can see the possibility of "over-reserving" if that were to be the case...players could pay a single fee and then "reserve" a seat in a lot of events (on the off chance) without penalty, thus "freezing out" seats that might otherwise be available to players with the full buy-in right now.
Will reservations be on a "first-come, first served" basis AFTER those who buy-in direct?
Will reservations open AFTER the full buy-in option is available...if so what kind of time lag do you envisage....a week or two would seem about right?
Am I worrying about nothing?...I sure hope so!
Post by: Sugar_Free on January 09, 2014, 18:04:49 PM
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com.
I may need to move some money around...could someone please clarify what this means?
Are we talking "click-fest"? I"m assuming that we will not be using the online poker software?
Hi Paulie - we"re still dotting a few i"s on this but it"s likely there will be seat reservation and online buy in from day one. I"d hold off moving money anywhere until those details are confirmed on 13th though.
Interest is building and I"m getting PM"d a few questions which I"m struggling to answer at this late date.
With buy-in & reservations due to go live on Monday, perhaps I"m overthinking but with some of the capped seat numbers I can see rush buying of side event seats.
Are we talking a reservation fee that will cover the WCOAP festival and players then put their names down for multiple events?
I can see the possibility of "over-reserving" if that were to be the case...players could pay a single fee and then "reserve" a seat in a lot of events (on the off chance) without penalty, thus "freezing out" seats that might otherwise be available to players with the full buy-in right now.
Will reservations be on a "first-come, first served" basis AFTER those who buy-in direct?
Will reservations open AFTER the full buy-in option is available...if so what kind of time lag do you envisage....a week or two would seem about right?
Am I worrying about nothing?...I sure hope so!
I don"t know why everything has to be so secretive right up to the last minute, doesn"t give us much chance to organise funds etc
Post by: MintTrav on January 09, 2014, 18:19:20 PM
Will reservations open AFTER the full buy-in option is available
I hope so. I don"t like the reservation option, allowing people to block places and then drop out with negligible penalty, when there are people who will pay the full amount who can"t get a place. I can"t see how that benefits APAT or the players.
Post by: Paulie_D on January 09, 2014, 18:32:31 PM
I don"t know why everything has to be so secretive right up to the last minute, doesn"t give us much chance to organise funds etc
To be fair there"s still a couple of days left.
Post by: Sugar_Free on January 09, 2014, 18:45:12 PM
I don"t know why everything has to be so secretive right up to the last minute, doesn"t give us much chance to organise funds etc
To be fair there"s still a couple of days left.
But it seems the announcement and action will both be on Monday
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com.
I may need to move some money around...could someone please clarify what this means?
Are we talking "click-fest"? I"m assuming that we will not be using the online poker software?
Hi Paulie - we"re still dotting a few i"s on this but it"s likely there will be seat reservation and online buy in from day one. I"d hold off moving money anywhere until those details are confirmed on 13th though.
Post by: Optional on January 09, 2014, 19:28:42 PM
I am hoping it will be easy to reserve or buy in on monday. We are three guys from germany which have already booked hotel and flights (it was necessary because the flights are getting so much more expensive every single day)
So now i am looking forward to monday and praying that i can get places in the games i woul like to play. I am so excited looking forward to the festival.
Ps: is there more space in the games than anounced ( i know we were 108players in the plo last year at DTD, now there are only 80 players able to play)?
Post by: Des on January 09, 2014, 19:33:02 PM
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com.
I may need to move some money around...could someone please clarify what this means?
Are we talking "click-fest"? I"m assuming that we will not be using the online poker software?
Hi Paulie - we"re still dotting a few i"s on this but it"s likely there will be seat reservation and online buy in from day one. I"d hold off moving money anywhere until those details are confirmed on 13th though.
Interest is building and I"m getting PM"d a few questions which I"m struggling to answer at this late date.
With buy-in & reservations due to go live on Monday, perhaps I"m overthinking but with some of the capped seat numbers I can see rush buying of side event seats.
Are we talking a reservation fee that will cover the WCOAP festival and players then put their names down for multiple events?
I can see the possibility of "over-reserving" if that were to be the case...players could pay a single fee and then "reserve" a seat in a lot of events (on the off chance) without penalty, thus "freezing out" seats that might otherwise be available to players with the full buy-in right now.
Will reservations be on a "first-come, first served" basis AFTER those who buy-in direct?
Will reservations open AFTER the full buy-in option is available...if so what kind of time lag do you envisage....a week or two would seem about right?
Am I worrying about nothing?...I sure hope so!
I don"t know why everything has to be so secretive right up to the last minute, doesn"t give us much chance to organise funds etc
We"re not deliberately being secretive Matt, I promise you.
The 13th will be the announcement on the forum, but we won"t send an email to the base on that day so there will be some time to get organised before any event sells out I"m sure.
Post by: Des on January 09, 2014, 19:44:21 PM
Players will be able to reserve or purchase seats from 9pm on Monday January 13th via www.apat.com.
I may need to move some money around...could someone please clarify what this means?
Are we talking "click-fest"? I"m assuming that we will not be using the online poker software?
Hi Paulie - we"re still dotting a few i"s on this but it"s likely there will be seat reservation and online buy in from day one. I"d hold off moving money anywhere until those details are confirmed on 13th though.
Interest is building and I"m getting PM"d a few questions which I"m struggling to answer at this late date.
With buy-in & reservations due to go live on Monday, perhaps I"m overthinking but with some of the capped seat numbers I can see rush buying of side event seats.
Are we talking a reservation fee that will cover the WCOAP festival and players then put their names down for multiple events?
I can see the possibility of "over-reserving" if that were to be the case...players could pay a single fee and then "reserve" a seat in a lot of events (on the off chance) without penalty, thus "freezing out" seats that might otherwise be available to players with the full buy-in right now.
Will reservations be on a "first-come, first served" basis AFTER those who buy-in direct?
Will reservations open AFTER the full buy-in option is available...if so what kind of time lag do you envisage....a week or two would seem about right?
Am I worrying about nothing?...I sure hope so!
I"m sure you"re worrying for nothing Paulie. We don"t plan to send an email to the base announcing the on sale on Monday evening, so there will be some time to act.
On Monday evening you can expect to see a revised list of events as we"re looking to add an "Antes Only" Championship into the schedule.
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event. This money will go towards the Live updating fund. Adam will be present every day to live update and APAT will make up any shortfall in his fee. If it looks like there will be more in the fund, we"ll add an additional updater. Tom, Matt and I will be there across the week also.
At the moment it"s not 100% certain we"ll be able to confirm our online plans on Monday eve, but on the positive side we may be able to add an Eventbrite main event direct buy in for £110 plus whatever the Eventbrite fee is. APAT will not deduct anything from that if we are able to add it.
Post by: Des on January 09, 2014, 19:46:32 PM
Hi all,
I am hoping it will be easy to reserve or buy in on monday. We are three guys from germany which have already booked hotel and flights (it was necessary because the flights are getting so much more expensive every single day)
So now i am looking forward to monday and praying that i can get places in the games i woul like to play. I am so excited looking forward to the festival.
Ps: is there more space in the games than anounced ( i know we were 108players in the plo last year at DTD, now there are only 80 players able to play)?
Hi Stefan - I think we"re hopeful of adding additional seats to a wide number of events if the demand is there. But we need to do this in a managed way to ensure the casino can get the resource.
Post by: Optional on January 09, 2014, 20:05:27 PM
Post by: AJDUK on January 09, 2014, 20:22:01 PM
On Monday evening you can expect to see a revised list of events as we"re looking to add an "Antes Only" Championship into the schedule.
For future reference could you please just announce finalised lists of events? It"s tough enough to plan ahead for poker over Easter at this relatively late stage without the goal posts constantly moving. All this tinkering is very worrying.
Post by: MintTrav on January 09, 2014, 20:26:51 PM
Post by: Jon MW on January 09, 2014, 21:17:18 PM
Post by: Des on January 09, 2014, 21:17:25 PM
On Monday evening you can expect to see a revised list of events as we"re looking to add an "Antes Only" Championship into the schedule.
For future reference could you please just announce finalised lists of events? It"s tough enough to plan ahead for poker over Easter at this relatively late stage without the goal posts constantly moving. All this tinkering is very worrying.
Have you ever actually said something that wasn"t critical Andrew? We just seem to be constantly inconveniencing you, which might be fair enough if we were PokerStars or Sky, but we"re not, we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time in an attempt to pull together something pretty special on your behalf. Apologies that we constantly fail you.
Post by: Sugar_Free on January 09, 2014, 21:34:39 PM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 09, 2014, 21:44:19 PM
On Monday evening you can expect to see a revised list of events as we"re looking to add an "Antes Only" Championship into the schedule.
For future reference could you please just announce finalised lists of events? It"s tough enough to plan ahead for poker over Easter at this relatively late stage without the goal posts constantly moving. All this tinkering is very worrying.
Have you ever actually said something that wasn"t critical Andrew? We just seem to be constantly inconveniencing you, which might be fair enough if we were PokerStars or Sky, but we"re not, we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time in an attempt to pull together something pretty special on your behalf. Apologies that we constantly fail you.
That"s a little on the harsh side imo.
I think it will be good when final details are all confirmed and players can reserve for the events they want rather than a lot of speculating (which can be fun at times aswell) ;D
Post by: MintTrav on January 09, 2014, 21:56:02 PM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Post by: jayteejack on January 09, 2014, 23:08:09 PM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
Post by: fandango on January 09, 2014, 23:19:41 PM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
^^^^^ +1^^^^^ surely have direct upfront payment available for say 14 days then go down the reservations route for those still undecided, there are lots of hardcore members who have fully committed 100% to the series..
Post by: Sugar_Free on January 09, 2014, 23:30:33 PM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
^^^^^ +1^^^^^ surely have direct upfront payment available for say 14 days then go down the reservations route for those still undecided, there are lots of hardcore members who have fully committed 100% to the series..
What I meant was I was happy to see that if need be I just had to find £25 spare rather than £600
Post by: AJDUK on January 09, 2014, 23:55:05 PM
Will that mean to reserve a seat in this one you"ll have to pay £50 + £5 +£5?
If you"ve reserved the main, or already qualified, you wouldn"t have to pay any side event reservation fees.
Having only 1 reservation for the whole of the WCOAP made sense - but I thought it was worth checking/clarifying as it"s in 3 distinct groups.
To be clear, if a players is committed to being at the venue, then they would only have to pay one reservation fee. So consider it one reservation fee per venue Jon. That avoids the previous issues.
And this is from earlier in this thread:
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
So "to be clear" means "I might change my mind" ;)
Post by: TheSnapper on January 10, 2014, 04:06:43 AM
Have you ever actually said something that wasn"t critical Andrew? We just seem to be constantly inconveniencing you, which might be fair enough if we were PokerStars or Sky, but we"re not, we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time in an attempt to pull together something pretty special on your behalf. Apologies that we constantly fail you.
Although out of character, not your finest post Des :(
Post by: Des on January 10, 2014, 08:14:58 AM
Have you ever actually said something that wasn"t critical Andrew? We just seem to be constantly inconveniencing you, which might be fair enough if we were PokerStars or Sky, but we"re not, we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time in an attempt to pull together something pretty special on your behalf. Apologies that we constantly fail you.
Although out of character, not your finest post Des :(
If one assumes that I"m allowed the occasional bark, as is everyone"s right within APAT, then I"m not unhappy with the post Brendan...and I"m sure I"ve done worse. :)
I feel the economy is a bit worrying, the jobs situation also....but I don"t believe APAT adding an event to a festival late in the day, or changing our position on side event reservation should be described as worrying.
Now that"s just my opinion and we listen to everyone"s opinion - which frequently differ as seen even in the last few posts.
So I guess what I"m saying is I / we are entitled to show a bit of frustration also.
Post by: SirPercival on January 10, 2014, 09:11:31 AM
Have you ever actually said something that wasn"t critical Andrew? We just seem to be constantly inconveniencing you, which might be fair enough if we were PokerStars or Sky, but we"re not, we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time in an attempt to pull together something pretty special on your behalf. Apologies that we constantly fail you.
Although out of character, not your finest post Des :(
If one assumes that I"m allowed the occasional bark, as is everyone"s right within APAT, then I"m not unhappy with the post Brendan...and I"m sure I"ve done worse. :)
I feel the economy is a bit worrying, the jobs situation also....but I don"t believe APAT adding an event to a festival late in the day, or changing our position on side event reservation should be described as worrying.
Now that"s just my opinion and we listen to everyone"s opinion - which frequently differ as seen even in the last few posts.
So I guess what I"m saying is I / we are entitled to show a bit of frustration also.
Sorry Des but you can"t have it both ways. The "we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time " line doesn"t cut it anymore.
APAT is a business of which you are a Director (according to Companies House). APAT is a Business that charges customers (us recreational players) fees.
As a paying customer I am very disappointed that you spoke to another customer is such a manner. As a customer with choice, I will not being playing the event.
Post by: AMRN on January 10, 2014, 09:52:26 AM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
^^^^^ +1^^^^^ surely have direct upfront payment available for say 14 days then go down the reservations route for those still undecided, there are lots of hardcore members who have fully committed 100% to the series..
Ditto this.
Those prepared to pay full whack, thereby taking a financial risk and making a commitment to APAT several months in advance shouldn"t be penalised with an additional reservation fee (in my humble opinion)
Post by: Des on January 10, 2014, 10:13:04 AM
Have you ever actually said something that wasn"t critical Andrew? We just seem to be constantly inconveniencing you, which might be fair enough if we were PokerStars or Sky, but we"re not, we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time in an attempt to pull together something pretty special on your behalf. Apologies that we constantly fail you.
Although out of character, not your finest post Des :(
If one assumes that I"m allowed the occasional bark, as is everyone"s right within APAT, then I"m not unhappy with the post Brendan...and I"m sure I"ve done worse. :)
I feel the economy is a bit worrying, the jobs situation also....but I don"t believe APAT adding an event to a festival late in the day, or changing our position on side event reservation should be described as worrying.
Now that"s just my opinion and we listen to everyone"s opinion - which frequently differ as seen even in the last few posts.
So I guess what I"m saying is I / we are entitled to show a bit of frustration also.
Sorry Des but you can"t have it both ways. The "we"re just a bunch of recreational poker players that dedicate a lot of our non working time " line doesn"t cut it anymore.
APAT is a business of which you are a Director (according to Companies House). APAT is a Business that charges customers (us recreational players) fees.
As a paying customer I am very disappointed that you spoke to another customer is such a manner. As a customer with choice, I will not being playing the event.
Stuart - we"re a business borne from people on both sides (management & customers) having a passion for recreational poker.
The management team are in amongst our customers and know most of them on a first name basis. We also listen intently and have a solid record of making player focused decisions based on feedback. But feedback is a two way thing and I feel I am entitled to be part of that discussion and in a human way, not like some corporate dummy. You and I have known each other for years and spoken many many times at events, so you know we aren"t just another corporate entity.
Remember also please, APAT is not my day job and the amount of decision making that we take based on business priority is negligible in comparison with anyone else in this industry. APAT simply makes very little money from it"s members and that"s fine - but it can sometimes determine our resource and priorities.
We"ve created APAT's biggest and best ever festival with the WCOAP and in doing so I know that the administration of seats etc will be an absolute nightmare - so forgive me for being frustrated when the best automated solution that we have is questioned, alongside a couple of amends to the schedule suggested by members in the past two weeks, and the addition of one more event.
Of course you"re entitled to not attend if you don"t agree with the way I run APAT but I hope you don"t take that stance. It doesn"t gain anything and frankly the Ac Jh stories keep us going for months. :)
But joking aside, if you"re doing so because I"ve stated my opinion to Andrew, then I"d have to say that I think I"ve earned the right to engage with "people" I know very well in both a positive and negative way. Without that APAT becomes no more than a job to me and I"m lucky enough to have one of those already.
Post by: Des on January 10, 2014, 10:16:37 AM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
^^^^^ +1^^^^^ surely have direct upfront payment available for say 14 days then go down the reservations route for those still undecided, there are lots of hardcore members who have fully committed 100% to the series..
Ditto this.
Those prepared to pay full whack, thereby taking a financial risk and making a commitment to APAT several months in advance shouldn"t be penalised with an additional reservation fee (in my humble opinion)
Agree with this and as I mentioned a bit earlier, we"re certainly going to have direct buy in options available online. The only concern we have at the moment is that this element hasn"t been finalised yet by Matt - so we"ll take stock over the weekend and let you know the approach on Monday. One thing I would say is that we want to be as fair about this as we can and are conscious of cutting any additional costs to a minimum, so let"s see where we are on Monday. We"ll try and keep the surprises to a minimum.
Post by: MintTrav on January 10, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
^^^^^ +1^^^^^ surely have direct upfront payment available for say 14 days then go down the reservations route for those still undecided, there are lots of hardcore members who have fully committed 100% to the series..
Ditto this.
Those prepared to pay full whack, thereby taking a financial risk and making a commitment to APAT several months in advance shouldn"t be penalised with an additional reservation fee (in my humble opinion)
Agree with this and as I mentioned a bit earlier, we"re certainly going to have direct buy in options available online. The only concern we have at the moment is that this element hasn"t been finalised yet by Matt - so we"ll take stock over the weekend and let you know the approach on Monday. One thing I would say is that we want to be as fair about this as we can and are conscious of cutting any additional costs to a minimum, so let"s see where we are on Monday. We"ll try and keep the surprises to a minimum.
That"s excellent news. If the direct buy-in option is not ready on Monday, could you hold off on the reservations until it is?
Post by: Des on January 10, 2014, 10:41:45 AM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
^^^^^ +1^^^^^ surely have direct upfront payment available for say 14 days then go down the reservations route for those still undecided, there are lots of hardcore members who have fully committed 100% to the series..
Ditto this.
Those prepared to pay full whack, thereby taking a financial risk and making a commitment to APAT several months in advance shouldn"t be penalised with an additional reservation fee (in my humble opinion)
Agree with this and as I mentioned a bit earlier, we"re certainly going to have direct buy in options available online. The only concern we have at the moment is that this element hasn"t been finalised yet by Matt - so we"ll take stock over the weekend and let you know the approach on Monday. One thing I would say is that we want to be as fair about this as we can and are conscious of cutting any additional costs to a minimum, so let"s see where we are on Monday. We"ll try and keep the surprises to a minimum.
That"s excellent news. If the direct buy-in option is not ready on Monday, could you hold off on the reservations until it is?
We may very well don hard hats and do that.
Post by: jayteejack on January 10, 2014, 14:02:22 PM
In addition we"ll have seat reservation. To stop people speed reserving everything in sight, there will be a charge on all events. £5 for the main event and £2 for each side event.
I think this was pretty much what I was hoping to see. Thanks Des.
Pretty much what I was hoping not to see.
Agree completely. I think a direct buy in with full payment up front should be made available for all events before reservations. Surely selling out an event with money up front is more desirable
^^^^^ +1^^^^^ surely have direct upfront payment available for say 14 days then go down the reservations route for those still undecided, there are lots of hardcore members who have fully committed 100% to the series..
Ditto this.
Those prepared to pay full whack, thereby taking a financial risk and making a commitment to APAT several months in advance shouldn"t be penalised with an additional reservation fee (in my humble opinion)
Agree with this and as I mentioned a bit earlier, we"re certainly going to have direct buy in options available online. The only concern we have at the moment is that this element hasn"t been finalised yet by Matt - so we"ll take stock over the weekend and let you know the approach on Monday. One thing I would say is that we want to be as fair about this as we can and are conscious of cutting any additional costs to a minimum, so let"s see where we are on Monday. We"ll try and keep the surprises to a minimum.
That"s excellent news. If the direct buy-in option is not ready on Monday, could you hold off on the reservations until it is?
We may very well don hard hats and do that.
Brilliant news and probably the only fair option.
ps Des I think you do have a right to vent your frustrations however due to your position/status within the company I feel it should not be done on a public forum with your customers all looking on
Post by: Paulie_D on January 10, 2014, 14:09:13 PM
Post by: Des on January 10, 2014, 14:28:05 PM
http://www.wsop.com/2012/structuresheets/12149-structure.pdf
Post by: Paulie_D on January 10, 2014, 14:46:17 PM
All players will post the required ante each level of play.
No SB or BB
Pre-flop: Action will start with the player to the left of the dealer button. Players will act in turn having the option to fold or bring in for the minimum amount posted for each level or bet up to All-In. The remaining players in the hand will have the option to fold, call, or raise.
Post-flop: Action will start with the player to the left of the dealer button. Players will act in turn having the option to check, or bet the minimum bring-in up to and including all-in. The remaining players in the hand will have the option to fold, call, or raise.
....Interesting.
Post by: Des on January 10, 2014, 14:52:30 PM
So, as I understand it...
All players will post the required ante each level of play.
No SB or BB
Pre-flop: Action will start with the player to the left of the dealer button. Players will act in turn having the option to fold or bring in for the minimum amount posted for each level or bet up to All-In. The remaining players in the hand will have the option to fold, call, or raise.
Post-flop: Action will start with the player to the left of the dealer button. Players will act in turn having the option to check, or bet the minimum bring-in up to and including all-in. The remaining players in the hand will have the option to fold, call, or raise.
....Interesting.
Online, but similarly interesting.....
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15/poker-theory/ante-up-strategy-guide-492183/
Post by: Paulie_D on January 10, 2014, 15:51:29 PM
Post by: daveyb147 on January 10, 2014, 16:06:01 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on January 10, 2014, 16:14:14 PM
Hi all,,sorry im losing the plot here lol,,,,so Monday at 9pm I can reserve my seats here yes ??? Or,,am I buying in direct here ???,,,,,thanks
Nobody is sure yet.
We"ll just have to wait until Monday.
Not ideal but there we are.
Post by: daveyb147 on January 10, 2014, 16:17:28 PM
Hi all,,sorry im losing the plot here lol,,,,so Monday at 9pm I can reserve my seats here yes ??? Or,,am I buying in direct here ???,,,,,thanks
Nobody is sure yet.
We"ll just have to wait until Monday.
Not ideal but there we are.
Cheers ::)
Post by: AJDUK on January 10, 2014, 16:43:57 PM
I"m not convinced that you are fully aware of the hoops many APAT"ers have to jump through in order to plan ahead and participate in such great events. When Season Seven was first announced I took a snapshot of the schedule. I looked back at it yesterday. Other than the main event being over Easter weekend it bears hardly any resemblance to what is currently on the table (I won"t post it as I don"t want to confuse any casual observers). Not only that in the past fortnight or so, fully 6 months later, we are still seeing tinkering with the start times, schedules and even the events to be played within the team event. All of these "minor" decisions may or may not effect an individuals decision of whether to play. As such, whilst things constantly change, it is very tough to commit any planning effort or £££"s to the event.
Your initial statement regarding Monday said:
On Monday evening you can expect to see a revised list of events as we"re looking to add an "Antes Only" Championship into the schedule.
It does not say "don"t worry - we won"t be changing any start times of anything else we will just be squeezing in this extra event". Having seen start times change and being promised by Tom that everything is still being looked at how can I plan for this event? I do not have the BR to play every event so was never expecting to play from beginning to end. This January I have seen hotel sale offers come and go but cannot comfortably book anything whilst things are still in flux. And now another weekend will go by without knowing the final schedule.
I feel the economy is a bit worrying, the jobs situation also....but I don"t believe APAT adding an event to a festival late in the day, or changing our position on side event reservation should be described as worrying.
I disagree. I cannot book anything for WCOAP (unless I commit to Tues to Mon) without worrying that something will change regarding my chosen events. That is all I meant by my post and I accept that you are allowed to blow off at times but TBH I"ve seen far worse recently than my original comment below, which I stand by:
For future reference could you please just announce finalised lists of events? It"s tough enough to plan ahead for poker over Easter at this relatively late stage without the goal posts constantly moving. All this tinkering is very worrying.
Post by: AMRN on January 10, 2014, 16:53:19 PM
Well written post Andy, and hopefully Des will get gist and meaning. It was a bit unpleasant this morning, but I was able to see both sides.
I also have not booked any holiday from work or paid hotel reservations yet - I"m only playing selective events, and until the final list of events is published, I can"t make commitment. That said, until buy in is open, I would always say that the list is "draft"... and the fact that the tinkering is being done partly as a reaction to posts made on this forum with suggestion for improvement, I actually welcome the flexibility.
Post by: Des on January 10, 2014, 16:56:05 PM
Des I understand your frustration, I do, but as I frequently say to people who ask me for hand advice after they have been snap called on the river with bottom pair - look past your frustration and try and see the situation from the other guys point of view.
I"m not convinced that you are fully aware of the hoops many APAT"ers have to jump through in order to plan ahead and participate in such great events. When Season Seven was first announced I took a snapshot of the schedule. I looked back at it yesterday. Other than the main event being over Easter weekend it bears hardly any resemblance to what is currently on the table (I won"t post it as I don"t want to confuse any casual observers). Not only that in the past fortnight or so, fully 6 months later, we are still seeing tinkering with the start times, schedules and even the events to be played within the team event. All of these "minor" decisions may or may not effect an individuals decision of whether to play. As such, whilst things constantly change, it is very tough to commit any planning effort or £££"s to the event.
Your initial statement regarding Monday said:
On Monday evening you can expect to see a revised list of events as we"re looking to add an "Antes Only" Championship into the schedule.
It does not say "don"t worry - we won"t be changing any start times of anything else we will just be squeezing in this extra event". Having seen start times change and being promised by Tom that everything is still being looked at how can I plan for this event? I do not have the BR to play every event so was never expecting to play from beginning to end. This January I have seen hotel sale offers come and go but cannot comfortably book anything whilst things are still in flux. And now another weekend will go by without knowing the final schedule.
I feel the economy is a bit worrying, the jobs situation also....but I don"t believe APAT adding an event to a festival late in the day, or changing our position on side event reservation should be described as worrying.
I disagree. I cannot book anything for WCOAP (unless I commit to Tues to Mon) without worrying that something will change regarding my chosen events. That is all I meant by my post and I accept that you are allowed to blow off at times but TBH I"ve seen far worse recently than my original comment below, which I stand by:
For future reference could you please just announce finalised lists of events? It"s tough enough to plan ahead for poker over Easter at this relatively late stage without the goal posts constantly moving. All this tinkering is very worrying.
Yep, thanks for that Andrew and I guess part of my frustration stems from the point that I agree with a lot of what you say above. We"re adding massive complexity to what we"ve had in previous years without necessarily having the resource in place to deliver it faultlessly - and that pains me.
I"ve said to the guys that we need to step off the throttle a little bit for S8 so that we can address overall quality.
Anyway, no offence intended earlier.
Post by: Paulie_D on January 10, 2014, 17:17:28 PM
oooo heck, i just found myself agreeing with Andy Duncan. ;)
oooo heck, i just found myself agreeing with Andy Duncan AND Steve Redfern. ;)
(http://justpiper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/apocalypse.jpg)
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on January 10, 2014, 18:47:38 PM
All this never affects me because I can"t make decisions about whether I can play until the last minute anyway, that resulted in me playing Stud a few years back because that was the only event with space left and I wanted to be part of the event!
So lets all pick our toys up and play nice :)
See you in Stoke.....come on the LBPN!
Post by: Optional on January 10, 2014, 19:01:53 PM
My last question before monday is, if somebody can tell me what i need for reservation/direct buy inn - credit card, an online poker account, an eventbrite account,payoal or something like this
Post by: Des on January 11, 2014, 17:01:52 PM
We won"t mention who our partner is at this point as you will need to sign up with them via an APAT code to be able to see the events in their lobby.
We will also offer seat reservation on the Main Event for anyone who doesn"t want to pay the full buy in up front.
I can also confirm the finalised schedule of events now, with the addition on one event (Antes Only) and some minor changes in timings on a couple of others, in line with general player feedback.
Tuesday, April 15
14.00 - WCOAP #1 No Limit Hold'em Championship - £55 - 120 seats
18.00 - WCOAP #2 Stud Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Wednesday, April 16
12.00 - WCOAP #3 High Roller Championship - £220 - 60 seats
18.00 - WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship - £55 - 50 seats
Thursday, April 17
12.00 - WCOAP #5 Antes Only Championship - £55 - 100 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #6 World Amateur Team Championship Day 1 - £110
19.00 - WCOAP #7 HORSE Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Friday, April 18
12.00 - WCOAP #8 Shootout Championship - £55 - 100 seats
13.00 - WCOAP #6 World Amateur Team Championship Day 2
16.00 - WCOAP #9 Six Max Championship - £55 - 160 seats
20.00 - WCOAP #10 Razz Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Saturday, April 19
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 1a - £110 - 200 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #12 PL Omaha 08 Championship - £55 - 80 seats
19.00 - WCOAP #13 Cash Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Sunday, April 20
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 1b - £110 - 200 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #14 Pot Limit Omaha Championship - £55 - 80 seats
20.00 - WCOAP #15 Season Seven Championship - Champions Qualify - 32 seats
Monday, April 21
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 2
14.00 - WCOAP #16 Heads Up Championship - £55 - 128 seats
Post by: GatlingGob on January 11, 2014, 19:06:09 PM
Roddy Farmer
AKA
Gatling Gob
Post by: Des on January 11, 2014, 19:11:32 PM
Sorry Des if this has already been answered but I am planning reserving seats for quite a few events on Monday night do you have a link or a brief on how to do this thanks in advance
Roddy Farmer
AKA
Gatling Gob
Hi Roddy,
On Monday night we"re going to have holding tanks for all events via an online poker partner. We"ll initially also offer reserved seats in the main event. We"ll hold off on offering seat reservation on the side events until the following weekend.
Look forward to catching up in London.
Post by: GatlingGob on January 11, 2014, 20:24:49 PM
Rod
Post by: poker_jason on January 11, 2014, 22:15:41 PM
Went to school in Stratford, accommodation sorted at no cost, not a happy boy.
The numbers are mostly capped and I expect most events to sell out...
Is there anyway I can Reg (pay) and then unregister if I can"t make the events?
I don"t mind a reservation fee of £5 for main event, but £25+reservation fees for the schedule I"m thinking of is too much.
Also, what happens if you buy into 2 events on the same day and you are still in the 1st event when the second starts. Can you un-reg from the 2nd event? (obviously prior to it starting).
Just trying to determine my available options.
Thanks J.
Post by: kohan on January 11, 2014, 23:47:47 PM
Post by: galvo68 on January 12, 2014, 15:18:49 PM
Post by: Joker161 on January 13, 2014, 00:15:18 AM
Sorry Des if this has already been answered but I am planning reserving seats for quite a few events on Monday night do you have a link or a brief on how to do this thanks in advance
Roddy Farmer
AKA
Gatling Gob
Hi Roddy,
On Monday night we"re going to have holding tanks for all events via an online poker partner. We"ll initially also offer reserved seats in the main event. We"ll hold off on offering seat reservation on the side events until the following weekend.
Look forward to catching up in London.
Hi Des!
This "online poker partner". Is this being revealed tomorrow night too? I would read the whole thread, but it"s a bit late!
Thanks!
Joe
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 09:24:01 AM
Hi Des!
This "online poker partner". Is this being revealed tomorrow night too? I would read the whole thread, but it"s a bit late!
Thanks!
Joe
That"s my understanding.
It might be that the announcement will be made (with sign-up code) in advance of actual buy-in time to give us chance to download and move cash about but I guess we"ll find out soon enough.
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 11:29:25 AM
Hi Des!
This "online poker partner". Is this being revealed tomorrow night too? I would read the whole thread, but it"s a bit late!
Thanks!
Joe
That"s my understanding.
It might be that the announcement will be made (with sign-up code) in advance of actual buy-in time to give us chance to download and move cash about but I guess we"ll find out soon enough.
Yes, the situation with the online partner is that we will have an APAT tab on their software and some branding in their lobby, but our players will only be able to see our events if they are tagged with the APAT code. This is an interesting alternative to our own online site which we will investigate closely over the next few months.
Post by: KarmaDope on January 13, 2014, 12:52:51 PM
What happens if the person is already registered with the online partner?
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 20:44:08 PM
Will ask for clarity, as won"t affect me.
What happens if the person is already registered with the online partner?
It you are already registered with the online partner, then you should still be able to sign up for an account with the APAT version of the skin if you do one of the following:
a) Use a different payment method on the new account.
or
b) If the only payment method you have is currently in use on that other skin, then you can ring up and ask them to remove it. You will now be able to use this payment method on the APAT skin.
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on January 13, 2014, 20:58:02 PM
Is there no other way we can have our user names linked to APAT?
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 20:58:56 PM
Do not download the software direct from the Coral site, or you will not be able to play APAT exclusive games.
APAT are pleased to announce a partnership with Coral that includes the World Championship of Amateur Poker.
The partnership will see Coral"s brand marketed at APAT live events and APAT online satellites, Leagues, Championships and event direct buy ins on Coral"s Poker; which sits on the recreational network as a leading operator on iPoker.
(http://www.apat.com/images/apat-lobby.jpg)
Under the partnership members will see an APAT branded version of the Coral lobby, with an APAT tab for our tournaments and direct buy ins.
WCOAP seats go on sale this evening from 9pm via APAT, in partnership with Coral Poker. At the same time APAT have redesigned their website to give greater visibility to tour dates, and launched an APAT Online microsite.
We can also confirm the finalised schedule of events now, with the addition on one event (Antes Only) and some minor changes in timings on a couple of others, in line with general player feedback.
Tuesday, April 15
14.00 - WCOAP #1 No Limit Hold'em Championship - £55 - 120 seats
18.00 - WCOAP #2 Stud Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Wednesday, April 16
12.00 - WCOAP #3 High Roller Championship - £220 - 60 seats
18.00 - WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship - £55 - 50 seats
Thursday, April 17
12.00 - WCOAP #5 Antes Only Championship - £55 - 100 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #6 World Amateur Team Championship Day 1 - £110
19.00 - WCOAP #7 HORSE Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Friday, April 18
12.00 - WCOAP #8 Shootout Championship - £55 - 100 seats
13.00 - WCOAP #6 World Amateur Team Championship Day 2
16.00 - WCOAP #9 Six Max Championship - £55 - 160 seats
20.00 - WCOAP #10 Razz Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Saturday, April 19
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 1a - £110 - 200 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #12 PL Omaha 08 Championship - £55 - 80 seats
19.00 - WCOAP #13 Cash Championship - £65 - 40 seats
Sunday, April 20
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 1b - £110 - 200 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #14 Pot Limit Omaha Championship - £55 - 80 seats
20.00 - WCOAP #15 Season Seven Championship - Champions Qualify - 32 seats
Monday, April 21
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 2
14.00 - WCOAP #16 Heads Up Championship - £55 - 128 seats
To buy into any of the WCOAP events, click through to the WCOAP page on the APAT Online microsite.
http://www.apat.com/online/wcoap.php
To reserve a seat in the Main Event for a £5 fee, click through to the APAT home page.
http://www.apat.com
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 20:59:58 PM
The last time I did that for DTD"s new online site they removed my whole card from the other skins and now I cannot play on them.
Is there no way we can have our user names linked to APAT?
I don"t think that will be an issue on this occasion. ;)
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on January 13, 2014, 21:00:54 PM
The last time I did that for DTD"s new online site they removed my whole card from the other skins and now I cannot play on them.
Is there no way we can have our user names linked to APAT?
I don"t think that will be an issue on this occasion. ;)
booooooom hope so. Thanks Paulie x
(Just to cairfy ... I didn"t mean I thought we were shifting over to DTD, just what happened last time I was told I would need to remove my card from a site in order to be linked on a different skin)
Post by: GatlingGob on January 13, 2014, 21:10:02 PM
Post by: paddyjim on January 13, 2014, 21:11:22 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 21:12:24 PM
What happens if the person is already registered with the online partner?
It you are already registered with the online partner, then you should still be able to sign up for an account with the APAT version of the skin if you do one of the following:
a) Use a different payment method on the new account.
or
b) If the only payment method you have is currently in use on that other skin, then you can ring up and ask them to remove it. You will now be able to use this payment method on the APAT skin.
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 21:12:57 PM
Bit confused - do I reserve the seat through Eventbrite or buy in through Coral???
You can do either for the main event, but you can only buy into the side events.
Post by: GatlingGob on January 13, 2014, 21:15:12 PM
Post by: yoda on January 13, 2014, 21:15:43 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 21:17:58 PM
When will be able to buy in for the side events?
They are also open now. Same link for instructions: http://www.apat.com/online/wcoap.php
Post by: daveyb147 on January 13, 2014, 21:19:23 PM
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 21:19:43 PM
You can reserve a seat in the main via the APAT home page.
We will add side event seat reservation in a week"s time depending on availability.
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 21:21:14 PM
Signed up,,,all events say mar 31st and only 1 day for main event ??
Those are just online holding tanks Davie so you can ignore the end dates. They tanks will close on March 31st to allow enough time to transfer funds to the casino.
Post by: daveyb147 on January 13, 2014, 21:23:25 PM
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 21:24:15 PM
APAT are pleased to announce a partnership with Coral that includes the World Championship of Amateur Poker.
The partnership will see Coral"s brand marketed at APAT live events and APAT online satellites, Leagues, Championships and event direct buy ins on Coral"s Poker; which sits on the recreational network as a leading operator on iPoker.
(http://www.apat.com/images/apat-lobby.jpg)
Under the partnership members will see an APAT branded version of the Coral lobby, with an APAT tab for our tournaments and direct buy ins.
WCOAP seats go on sale this evening from 9pm via APAT, in partnership with Coral Poker. At the same time APAT have redesigned their website to give greater visibility to tour dates, and launched an APAT Online microsite.
We can also confirm the finalised schedule of events now, with the addition on one event (Antes Only) and some minor changes in timings on a couple of others, in line with general player feedback.
Tuesday, April 15
14.00 - WCOAP #1 No Limit Hold'em Championship - £55 - 120 seats
18.00 - WCOAP #2 Stud Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Wednesday, April 16
12.00 - WCOAP #3 High Roller Championship - £220 - 60 seats
18.00 - WCOAP #4 Mixed Game Championship - £55 - 50 seats
Thursday, April 17
12.00 - WCOAP #5 Antes Only Championship - £55 - 100 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #6 World Amateur Team Championship Day 1 - £110
19.00 - WCOAP #7 HORSE Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Friday, April 18
12.00 - WCOAP #8 Shootout Championship - £55 - 100 seats
13.00 - WCOAP #6 World Amateur Team Championship Day 2
16.00 - WCOAP #9 Six Max Championship - £55 - 160 seats
20.00 - WCOAP #10 Razz Championship - £55 - 40 seats
Saturday, April 19
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 1a - £110 - 200 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #12 PL Omaha 08 Championship - £55 - 80 seats
19.00 - WCOAP #13 Cash Championship - £65 - 40 seats
Sunday, April 20
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 1b - £110 - 200 seats
14.00 - WCOAP #14 Pot Limit Omaha Championship - £55 - 80 seats
20.00 - WCOAP #15 Season Seven Championship - Champions Qualify - 32 seats
Monday, April 21
12.00 - WCOAP #11 World Amateur Poker Championship Day 2
14.00 - WCOAP #16 Heads Up Championship - £55 - 128 seats
To buy into any of the WCOAP events, click through to the WCOAP page on the APAT Online microsite.
http://www.apat.com/online/wcoap.php
To reserve a seat in the Main Event for a £5 fee, click through to the APAT home page.
http://www.apat.com
Post by: GatlingGob on January 13, 2014, 21:27:18 PM
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 21:27:44 PM
Thanks Des,,,I wanted to reg for day 1b main so how will that work
If the day 1b holding tank isn"t live Davie, we"ll ensure it is put live tomorrow.
Post by: fandango on January 13, 2014, 21:30:04 PM
Was dreading adding CC details only to find i couldnt use as i have it registered on another Ipoker skin, but no such problems :).
Now when are you starting the satts ;D ;D ;D
Post by: yoda on January 13, 2014, 21:30:28 PM
Post by: CUFCrp on January 13, 2014, 21:30:35 PM
Looking forward to my first APAT event since the Coventry event in 2012!
Post by: daveyb147 on January 13, 2014, 21:31:20 PM
Post by: vulcan107 on January 13, 2014, 21:32:01 PM
Post by: mylesfdo on January 13, 2014, 21:32:06 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 21:34:04 PM
First world problem strikes again, apart from reserving a seat with a fiver is there any other way off buying in.
What is your first world problem?
Can you not download Coral?
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 21:35:03 PM
All signed up but fyi I don"t see the APAT logo on the lobby page....can see the WCOAP events though
Me neither but I found the APAT "tab"/"button" quick enough.
Post by: fandango on January 13, 2014, 21:35:20 PM
Thanks Des,,,I wanted to reg for day 1b main so how will that work
If the day 1b holding tank isn"t live Davie, we"ll ensure it is put live tomorrow.
It doesnt state A or B in the lobby, just Event 11.. and has the capacity of 400 seats.
I also want to play Sunday B so i just reg for Event 11, sure either way we wont miss out :)
Post by: GatlingGob on January 13, 2014, 21:37:26 PM
Roddy
Farmer
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 21:38:36 PM
sorry for being pest but need too shoot ofline very soon i have now registered and paid for 5 events on coral does this guarentee my place in these events or do i need to pay an extra fiver for each and reserve seat is well??
Roddy
Farmer
If you"ve bought in via Coral then your seat is guaranteed.
No need to reserve as well.
Post by: GatlingGob on January 13, 2014, 21:40:02 PM
Rod
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 21:40:50 PM
Thanks Des,,,I wanted to reg for day 1b main so how will that work
If the day 1b holding tank isn"t live Davie, we"ll ensure it is put live tomorrow.
It doesnt state A or B in the lobby, just Event 11.. and has the capacity of 400 seats.
I also want to play Sunday B so i just reg for Event 11, sure either way we wont miss out :)
We"ll be reducing the capacity of that holding tank to 200 tomorrow and renaming it to: WCOAP #11 Main 1A
At the same time, we"ll also add: WCOAP #11 Main 1B (also with a 200 capacity).
I"ll PM everyone who was in the tank before it was renamed, to make sure they do indeed want to play Day 1A.
Post by: GatlingGob on January 13, 2014, 21:42:29 PM
Post by: fandango on January 13, 2014, 21:43:06 PM
Thanks Des,,,I wanted to reg for day 1b main so how will that work
If the day 1b holding tank isn"t live Davie, we"ll ensure it is put live tomorrow.
It doesnt state A or B in the lobby, just Event 11.. and has the capacity of 400 seats.
I also want to play Sunday B so i just reg for Event 11, sure either way we wont miss out :)
We"ll be reducing the capacity of that holding tank to 200 tomorrow and renaming it to: WCOAP #11 Main 1A
At the same time, we"ll also add: WCOAP #11 Main 1B (also with a 200 capacity).
I"ll PM everyone who was in the tank before it was renamed, to make sure they do indeed want to play Day 1A.
Ok thanks Matt, makes sense i guess... now back to my other question when are you doing satts ;D ;D ;D
Post by: suzanne on January 13, 2014, 21:44:49 PM
Post by: vulcan107 on January 13, 2014, 21:45:19 PM
First world problem strikes again, apart from reserving a seat with a fiver is there any other way off buying in.
What is your first world problem?
Can you not download Coral?
I have a Mac
Post by: fandango on January 13, 2014, 21:47:36 PM
Do you have to open a different account via the link? Just logged in and can see the schedule.
I was under the impression you had to do it via the link on opening page Suzanne.
Post by: Joker161 on January 13, 2014, 21:48:39 PM
I"ll wait until midnight and try again.
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 21:50:58 PM
Do you have to open a different account via the link? Just logged in and can see the schedule.
Yes, although APAT games will be visible on Coral, you won"t be able to buy-in to most of them. You will only be able to do that if you are accessing it via an account created from our site: http://www.apat.com/online
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 13, 2014, 21:52:12 PM
Post by: Billy01113 on January 13, 2014, 21:53:11 PM
Post by: vulcan107 on January 13, 2014, 21:57:54 PM
First world problem strikes again, apart from reserving a seat with a fiver is there any other way off buying in.
What is your first world problem?
Can you not download Coral?
I have a Mac
Sorted, no need to download on the MAC have found the flash site
Post by: AMRN on January 13, 2014, 21:59:33 PM
Interesting that #14 is "Omaha Cash", and #12 is "Omaha9". Omaha9 should be interesting ;)
Post by: AMRN on January 13, 2014, 22:00:25 PM
Post by: MintTrav on January 13, 2014, 22:00:58 PM
I only want to play the PLO8, but not the PLO, so I can play the Razz and ME as well. Presumably the references line up according to the schedule, ie #12 is PLO8 and #14 is PLO.
Post by: AMRN on January 13, 2014, 22:02:11 PM
One problem here is, that you can"t register two players over the same PC/IP :(
google sandboxie..... gets over that hurdle :)
Post by: Des on January 13, 2014, 22:02:17 PM
Does this partnership with Coral signal the end of the Poker.co.uk/APAT site? No more BOSS???
I"ve got a one day old in my arms....lets leave that discussion for another day!!
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 22:03:35 PM
The two Omaha descriptions are a bit odd: PL Omaha Cash. Omaha 9.
I only want to play the PLO8, but not the PLO, so I can play the Razz and ME as well. Presumably the references line up according to the schedule, ie #12 is PLO8 and #14 is PLO.
The event numbers match up...I hope.
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 22:06:57 PM
Are all the side events one day?
These are "holding tanks" and the date specified in the lobby is the date that tank will close. It is not the date of the event. For the full event schedule/days/timings, see the first post in this thread. Or click here: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14817.150
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 22:08:14 PM
All signed up but fyi I don"t see the APAT logo on the lobby page....can see the WCOAP events though
Interesting, and thanks for the heads up. I think I know what might have caused that, and will check with contact at Coral in the morning.
Post by: evansmg00 on January 13, 2014, 22:09:36 PM
Registered the side events - just a query there is no option to select day 1a or b when buying into main via coral - do we have to register via eventbrite to select the starting day?
Need to know as would like to play in the PLO tourney on the sunday
Cheers
Matt
Post by: bluebird1927 on January 13, 2014, 22:10:51 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 22:13:14 PM
The two Omaha descriptions are a bit odd: PL Omaha Cash. Omaha 9.
I only want to play the PLO8, but not the PLO, so I can play the Razz and ME as well. Presumably the references line up according to the schedule, ie #12 is PLO8 and #14 is PLO.
Ha, thanks for the tip off. I can only assume that"s a couple of typo"s at Coral"s end (lol @ Omaha9). Will try to get corrected for tomorrow.
In the meantime, yes. The event numbers are correct.
Post by: fandango on January 13, 2014, 22:14:32 PM
eg.. i have reg for ante only tournament starting at 12 and then the HORSE at 7.00pm what if say im still in the ante tournament and its near completion and the HORSE is about to start or im still in and its not near completion whats the stance?
Post by: AMRN on January 13, 2014, 22:15:43 PM
Does this partnership with Coral signal the end of the Poker.co.uk/APAT site? No more BOSS???
I"ve got a one day old in my arms....lets leave that discussion for another day!!
lol where"s yer priorities ffs man?
Post by: mylesfdo on January 13, 2014, 22:17:16 PM
All signed up but fyi I don"t see the APAT logo on the lobby page....can see the WCOAP events though
Interesting, and thanks for the heads up. I think I know what might have caused that, and will check with contact at Coral in the morning.
no probs
Post by: fandango on January 13, 2014, 22:20:45 PM
Post by: AAroddersAA on January 13, 2014, 22:21:21 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 22:23:53 PM
The event listed as:
Reg. WCOAP #14 PL Omaha Cash
is: WCOAP #14 PL Omaha
and the event listed as:
Reg. WCOAP #12 Omaha 9
is: WCOAP #12 Omaha 8
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 22:28:30 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on January 13, 2014, 22:29:38 PM
Not a bad idea.
PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR QUESTIONS & POSTS IN THE NEW THREAD.
HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14949.0)
HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14949.0)
Post by: CW86 on January 13, 2014, 22:31:52 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 22:33:08 PM
Post by: s4ooter on January 13, 2014, 23:13:02 PM
Post by: AMRN on January 13, 2014, 23:17:37 PM
I have a coral acc already, so am I fooked??
I already had a Coral account. I downloaded the software from the APAT microsite and overwrote existing software... Registered a new account using all the same details as my existing account (except user name), then deposited using same debit card as used on my existing account. No problems at all.
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 23:21:08 PM
I have a coral acc already, so am I fooked??
No!! You should have no problem.
But, if you do, please let me know.
Post by: s4ooter on January 13, 2014, 23:24:29 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 13, 2014, 23:26:20 PM
Is there a way to reserve seats?? Without full buyin?! £1k this close to Xmas is tough
Yes!! You can reserve a seat in the Main Event for £5. Link is on homepage: http://apat.com/
Other events will have their "Reserve" options opened next week.
We will also be running satellites.
Post by: Optional on January 13, 2014, 23:54:10 PM
Is it a major problem or just a german thing?! ...
Post by: Joker161 on January 14, 2014, 00:06:57 AM
I have a coral acc already, so am I fooked??
I already had a Coral account. I downloaded the software from the APAT microsite and overwrote existing software... Registered a new account using all the same details as my existing account (except user name), then deposited using same debit card as used on my existing account. No problems at all.
I tried all that then it said "Account already exists with the same IP connection". Annoying. Might have to wait for the reservations next week.
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 10:45:30 AM
I have a coral acc already, so am I fooked??
I already had a Coral account. I downloaded the software from the APAT microsite and overwrote existing software... Registered a new account using all the same details as my existing account (except user name), then deposited using same debit card as used on my existing account. No problems at all.
I tried all that then it said "Account already exists with the same IP connection". Annoying. Might have to wait for the reservations next week.
Hi Joe, I will ask my contact @ Coral what can be done here. Can you PM me your old Coral account details? (username or nickname is fine). (I will PM you to ask same, in case you don"t see this)
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 10:47:05 AM
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 10:52:03 AM
Has nobody problems with paying by debit card? I paid one tim 300£ and now coral tells me i can"t pay in more because of an error with my card... another friend of jine tried it with his Card and he can not pay anything..
Is it a major problem or just a german thing?! ...
Hi Stefan, please can you contact support and let them know your problem. Their contact details are on our help page here: http://www.apat.com/online/help.php
Or, as you are overseas, rather than use the phone number probably the quickest way to get support is to use the "Live Help" feature. To access that, select "Online Support" from the lobby. Someone should answer within a few seconds.
Let me know how you get on.
Post by: AMRN on January 14, 2014, 11:03:30 AM
I have a coral acc already, so am I fooked??
I already had a Coral account. I downloaded the software from the APAT microsite and overwrote existing software... Registered a new account using all the same details as my existing account (except user name), then deposited using same debit card as used on my existing account. No problems at all.
I tried all that then it said "Account already exists with the same IP connection". Annoying. Might have to wait for the reservations next week.
Answer: Sandboxie
Post by: AMRN on January 14, 2014, 11:08:31 AM
Paulie, Steve R (and anyone else with the same issue): Please can you reload the software when you get a chance, and see if the logo is displaying correctly now? Thanks :)
How"s this....
(http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k329/AMRN77/apatcoral_zps107245fd.png) (http://s324.photobucket.com/user/AMRN77/media/apatcoral_zps107245fd.png.html)
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 11:10:37 AM
First world problem strikes again, apart from reserving a seat with a fiver is there any other way off buying in.
What is your first world problem?
Can you not download Coral?
I have a Mac
Sorted, no need to download on the MAC have found the flash site
Hi Paul, have you already signed up for Coral via their site to use the Flash version? If not, please can you sign up via a link I will give you, rather than visiting Coral direct.
If you sign up at Coral direct, you will unfortunately not be able to play any of our Exclusive APAT tourneys. I have sent you a PM with the link.
Post by: AAroddersAA on January 14, 2014, 11:21:54 AM
Paulie, Steve R (and anyone else with the same issue): Please can you reload the software when you get a chance, and see if the logo is displaying correctly now? Thanks :)
Everything seems fine on mine Matt
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 11:23:24 AM
Paulie, Steve R (and anyone else with the same issue): Please can you reload the software when you get a chance, and see if the logo is displaying correctly now? Thanks :)
Everything seems fine on mine Matt
Ha, thanks Steve R. Good to hear it :) I meant the other Steve R I think though :) I should say Steve Ro and Steve Re in future :)
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
Paulie, Steve R (and anyone else with the same issue): Please can you reload the software when you get a chance, and see if the logo is displaying correctly now? Thanks :)
How"s this....
(http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k329/AMRN77/apatcoral_zps107245fd.png) (http://s324.photobucket.com/user/AMRN77/media/apatcoral_zps107245fd.png.html)
b00000m. Thanks :) Looks good, doesn"t it? :D
Note to all: In order to play the upcoming exclusive APAT games, you will need the APAT version of the software. You won"t be able to play them via the Coral version. So please check, as Steve has above, that your version of the software comes with the APAT logo. Thanks :)
Post by: Paulie_D on January 14, 2014, 11:36:50 AM
Paulie, Steve R (and anyone else with the same issue): Please can you reload the software when you get a chance, and see if the logo is displaying correctly now? Thanks :)
Everything seems fine on mine Matt
Ditto...I kept thinking the logo would be green! :)
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 11:41:41 AM
Paulie, Steve R (and anyone else with the same issue): Please can you reload the software when you get a chance, and see if the logo is displaying correctly now? Thanks :)
Everything seems fine on mine Matt
Ditto...I kept thinking the logo would be green! :)
ah lol, so it was there? You just didn"t spot it due to the blue camouflage? aye, we"ve had to go for a blue logo for online in order to fit in with Coral"s branding, and the blue colour of their room.
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 12:34:44 PM
Post by: GiMac on January 14, 2014, 14:56:18 PM
Do you have to open a different account via the link? Just logged in and can see the schedule.
Yes, although APAT games will be visible on Coral, you won"t be able to buy-in to most of them. You will only be able to do that if you are accessing it via an account created from our site: http://www.apat.com/online
So how do those of us that already have a coral account buy in?
Are you saying we have to have a coral account linked to APAT to be able to play future online APAT games?
What if we are already signed up to Coral"s through another affiliate and wish to remain loyal to that affiliate as we have a great deal with them? Are we then excluded from future APAT events?
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 15:11:02 PM
Do you have to open a different account via the link? Just logged in and can see the schedule.
Yes, although APAT games will be visible on Coral, you won"t be able to buy-in to most of them. You will only be able to do that if you are accessing it via an account created from our site: http://www.apat.com/online
So how do those of us that already have a coral account buy in?
You can download again from: http://www.apat.com/online/ and set up a new account. Any problems, please PM me.
Are you saying we have to have a coral account linked to APAT to be able to play future online APAT games?
Some games we will open to the whole Coral network, but other games will be exclusive to APAT (e.g. value added games, the upcoming National Online League, National Online Cup, etc.)
What if we are already signed up to Coral"s through another affiliate and wish to remain loyal to that affiliate as we have a great deal with them? Are we then excluded from future APAT events?
Unfortunately, we"re obviously not able to award added value games to players who haven"t signed up through us.
Post by: GiMac on January 14, 2014, 16:10:49 PM
Do you have to open a different account via the link? Just logged in and can see the schedule.
Yes, although APAT games will be visible on Coral, you won"t be able to buy-in to most of them. You will only be able to do that if you are accessing it via an account created from our site: http://www.apat.com/online
So how do those of us that already have a coral account buy in?
You can download again from: http://www.apat.com/online/ and set up a new account. Any problems, please PM me.
Are you saying we have to have a coral account linked to APAT to be able to play future online APAT games?
Some games we will open to the whole Coral network, but other games will be exclusive to APAT (e.g. value added games, the upcoming National Online League, National Online Cup, etc.)
What if we are already signed up to Coral"s through another affiliate and wish to remain loyal to that affiliate as we have a great deal with them? Are we then excluded from future APAT events?
Unfortunately, we"re obviously not able to award added value games to players who haven"t signed up through us.
Thanks for clarifying points 2 and 3.
With regards point 1 are you saying we have to open a new account to be able to register for the WCOAP through the Coral platform?
Post by: KarmaDope on January 14, 2014, 16:16:26 PM
I have a coral acc already, so am I fooked??
I already had a Coral account. I downloaded the software from the APAT microsite and overwrote existing software... Registered a new account using all the same details as my existing account (except user name), then deposited using same debit card as used on my existing account. No problems at all.
Post by: suzanne on January 14, 2014, 16:21:44 PM
Do you have to open a different account via the link? Just logged in and can see the schedule.
Yes, although APAT games will be visible on Coral, you won"t be able to buy-in to most of them. You will only be able to do that if you are accessing it via an account created from our site: http://www.apat.com/online
So how do those of us that already have a coral account buy in?
You can download again from: http://www.apat.com/online/ and set up a new account. Any problems, please PM me.
Are you saying we have to have a coral account linked to APAT to be able to play future online APAT games?
Some games we will open to the whole Coral network, but other games will be exclusive to APAT (e.g. value added games, the upcoming National Online League, National Online Cup, etc.)
What if we are already signed up to Coral"s through another affiliate and wish to remain loyal to that affiliate as we have a great deal with them? Are we then excluded from future APAT events?
Unfortunately, we"re obviously not able to award added value games to players who haven"t signed up through us.
Thanks for clarifying points 2 and 3.
With regards point 1 are you saying we have to open a new account to be able to register for the WCOAP through the Coral platform?
I opened another account via the link with a different card but can still login to my original account. Cant help thinking I must be breaking some site rules though :/
Post by: AMRN on January 14, 2014, 16:22:21 PM
It would seem so from what I have read - but Steve Redfern said that he just downloaded from the microsite, over-wrote his software and registered a new account with same details and debit card (but different username) and had no problems.
I have a coral acc already, so am I fooked??
I already had a Coral account. I downloaded the software from the APAT microsite and overwrote existing software... Registered a new account using all the same details as my existing account (except user name), then deposited using same debit card as used on my existing account. No problems at all.
Can still log into, and play on each account too. Doesn"t seem right, but there you go
Post by: Sugar_Free on January 14, 2014, 16:27:23 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on January 14, 2014, 16:35:11 PM
Can still log into, and play on each account too. Doesn"t seem right, but there you go
I"m guessing that you can"t play both accounts at the same time though.
If you could, THAT would be an issue.
Post by: suzanne on January 14, 2014, 16:36:31 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 16:42:22 PM
Just noticed, Ive bought in for £220 worth and been awarded 22 euros of tokens..bargain!! :D
Everyone who deposits £5 or more gets those :)
However, for depositing £220 you"d also have received a 100% match bonus, released in £5 chunks (see www.apat.com/online/welcome-bonus.php for more details). You"ll also receive £5 free cash after you play 1 raked hand/tourney. And you may find they add £10 casino cash to your account too. (they"ve just added another £5 casino cash to my account on top of the £10 I got on my first deposit).
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 16:43:46 PM
Can still log into, and play on each account too. Doesn"t seem right, but there you go
I"m guessing that you can"t play both accounts at the same time though.
If you could, THAT would be an issue.
You can only load up APAT or Coral, not both together. If using more than 1 laptop you"d be able to load both, but you"d only be able to sign in to one at a time.
Post by: MintTrav on January 14, 2014, 16:50:50 PM
You can only load up APAT or Coral, not both together.
Or any other iPoker sites, I assume. >:(
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 16:55:58 PM
You can only load up APAT or Coral, not both together.
Or any other iPoker sites, I assume. >:(
Yes. You won"t be able to load, e.g. Will Hill + APAT together. That"s in place to protect players from players being sat at the table more than once.
Post by: RicayBoy on January 14, 2014, 18:04:45 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 18:06:39 PM
OK first live poker for two years then. Three events signed up for - I"ll have to remember how to look cool again....
Nice one John, and good luck!
Post by: fandango on January 14, 2014, 18:10:08 PM
OK first live poker for two years then. Three events signed up for - I"ll have to remember how to look cool again....
Be good to see you again John.. Gl
Post by: Optional on January 14, 2014, 18:49:17 PM
Post by: 3N1GM4 on January 14, 2014, 18:51:28 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 19:28:42 PM
Post by: Optional on January 14, 2014, 19:38:51 PM
Post by: MintTrav on January 14, 2014, 20:01:14 PM
Is there a complete list somewhere of those eligible for event #15? Does winning a cash champs (DTD) qualify someone, even if there were no medals?
What about topping the Online League? ::)
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 14, 2014, 20:27:40 PM
I have a question ,i am want to reg for 6 max, but also want to play the razz if i reg for both and still playing the 6 max, can i unreg the razz (on the day) and get the money refunded if someone else takes my seat and the same question on the ohama 08 and cash game.
What how are the rules on either multi tabling.. or how long before an event starts you can unregister?
eg.. i have reg for ante only tournament starting at 12 and then the HORSE at 7.00pm what if say im still in the ante tournament and its near completion and the HORSE is about to start or im still in and its not near completion whats the stance?
I was wondering if there is answer to this ???
Post by: CW86 on January 14, 2014, 20:46:31 PM
Is there a complete list somewhere of those eligible for event #15? Does winning a cash champs (DTD) qualify someone, even if there were no medals?
think you need to update your signature mate
Post by: LombBomb on January 14, 2014, 21:01:39 PM
Post by: Curlarge on January 14, 2014, 21:11:44 PM
What happens in the situation that you buy into one of the holding tanks then subsequently win a seat in through a satellite?
Don"t worry mate, shouldn"t affect you ;)
Post by: TGBane on January 14, 2014, 21:36:40 PM
Unable to get into coral poker.
What do I do?
Post by: 3N1GM4 on January 14, 2014, 22:08:08 PM
Is there a complete list somewhere of those eligible for event #15? Does winning a cash champs (DTD) qualify someone, even if there were no medals?
think you need to update your signature mate
You"re only so smug cos it means you can remove the "FFS" from yours...
Post by: Matt D on January 14, 2014, 22:20:38 PM
I am using an iPad while away on work.
Unable to get into coral poker.
What do I do?
Main Event reservations are open via the APAT home page. Side events will be open for registration next week.
Post by: 4KSuited on January 15, 2014, 11:40:22 AM
I have a seat being kept warm for me on Day 1B...
The sign-up bonuses seem quite attractive, and of course I"d like to dabble in the APAT online comps, so I shall have a go at the dreaded download-registration merry-go-round later in the week...
:P 4s Ks
Post by: Des on January 15, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
Is there a complete list somewhere of those eligible for event #15? Does winning a cash champs (DTD) qualify someone, even if there were no medals?
What about topping the Online League? ::)
Hi guys - entry is for winners of APAT Championship main events either live or online in season seven. Tom and Matt will be producing a list of entrants, but any player who has won either of the above has qualified and so won"t be surprised.
Post by: Des on January 15, 2014, 12:04:22 PM
I have a question ,i am want to reg for 6 max, but also want to play the razz if i reg for both and still playing the 6 max, can i unreg the razz (on the day) and get the money refunded if someone else takes my seat and the same question on the ohama 08 and cash game.
What how are the rules on either multi tabling.. or how long before an event starts you can unregister?
eg.. i have reg for ante only tournament starting at 12 and then the HORSE at 7.00pm what if say im still in the ante tournament and its near completion and the HORSE is about to start or im still in and its not near completion whats the stance?
I was wondering if there is answer to this ???
Hi Sean - We anticipate the situation being the same as in all previous WCOAPs, players will be able to withdraw from their second event if they are still in the first event, at the venue cash desk. Tom is reconfirming that with the venue and this will be covered within his player briefing document.
Post by: Matt D on January 15, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
What happens in the situation that you buy into one of the holding tanks then subsequently win a seat in through a satellite?
I will clarify this before we set up any satellites, but what happened on Boss (and I assume will be the same on Coral) is that if you already have a seat in the holding tank, you will be given cash instead for the 2nd seat (and subsequent seats).
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 15, 2014, 12:55:51 PM
I have a question ,i am want to reg for 6 max, but also want to play the razz if i reg for both and still playing the 6 max, can i unreg the razz (on the day) and get the money refunded if someone else takes my seat and the same question on the ohama 08 and cash game.
What how are the rules on either multi tabling.. or how long before an event starts you can unregister?
eg.. i have reg for ante only tournament starting at 12 and then the HORSE at 7.00pm what if say im still in the ante tournament and its near completion and the HORSE is about to start or im still in and its not near completion whats the stance?
I was wondering if there is answer to this ???
Hi Sean - We anticipate the situation being the same as in all previous WCOAPs, players will be able to withdraw from their second event if they are still in the first event, at the venue cash desk. Tom is reconfirming that with the venue and this will be covered within his player briefing document.
Des
Thanks for the reply on this I will now lock up some more seats tonight for the rest if my events.
And now looking forward to my 2nd outing to apat event and just have to kidnap my cousins penguins so i can run good like he seems too.
Post by: Hammerite on January 15, 2014, 14:21:19 PM
Thanks Des,,,I wanted to reg for day 1b main so how will that work
If the day 1b holding tank isn"t live Davie, we"ll ensure it is put live tomorrow.
It doesnt state A or B in the lobby, just Event 11.. and has the capacity of 400 seats.
I also want to play Sunday B so i just reg for Event 11, sure either way we wont miss out :)
I would also like to play Sunday starting day B please just to avoid all the champions playing later in the day ;) but dont tell everyone
Post by: Matt D on January 15, 2014, 15:20:40 PM
Thanks Des,,,I wanted to reg for day 1b main so how will that work
If the day 1b holding tank isn"t live Davie, we"ll ensure it is put live tomorrow.
It doesnt state A or B in the lobby, just Event 11.. and has the capacity of 400 seats.
I also want to play Sunday B so i just reg for Event 11, sure either way we wont miss out :)
I would also like to play Sunday starting day B please just to avoid all the champions playing later in the day ;) but dont tell everyone
Due to last night"s Coral system upgrade (which looked like a very long night for those involved!) my contact has today off. I will chase up the segregation of the Main Event holding tank tomorrow (see: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14949.msg226017#msg226017), and contact everyone to make sure they are registered for the correct day.
Stefan, unfortunately that also means I"ll have to chase up your problem tomorrow too.
Post by: Matt D on January 15, 2014, 15:34:42 PM
Also, please note that in the lobby, the last part of each event name is truncated (at last initially anyway). So, e.g., you will see:
"Reg. WCOAP #12 Oma..." and "Reg. WCOAP #14 PLO...".
When you move your mouse on top of the names, the full names are displayed, so:
"Reg. WCOAP #12 Omaha 8" and "Reg. WCOAP #14 PL Omaha".
In addition the full titles are displayed in the tourney info box to the right of the lobby, once you click the name, and before you click "Register"
Please make sure you are registered for the correct event! I"m sure nobody would have registered for the wrong event, but want to make doubly sure! Thanks.
Post by: Matt D on January 15, 2014, 15:48:35 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on January 15, 2014, 16:04:27 PM
Never had any issues on any site with them
Post by: Matt D on January 15, 2014, 16:09:58 PM
Wow....am I the only person who uses Neteller?
Never had any issues on any site with them
I think using someone else"s Credit card on your Neteller account would cause that to be shut down too though, wouldn"t it?
Post by: Paulie_D on January 15, 2014, 16:14:19 PM
Wow....am I the only person who uses Neteller?
Never had any issues on any site with them
I think using someone else"s Credit card on your Neteller account would cause that to be shut down too though, wouldn"t it?
True...but not exactly my point. :)
Post by: Optional on January 16, 2014, 12:06:51 PM
NOW CORAL WROTE ME AN MAIL THAT THEY CLOSED MY ACCOUNT AND BOOK MY WITHDRAWS BACK TOMTHE DEBIT CARD. I ASKED THEM IF I COULD OPEN A NEW ACCOUNT AND USE PAY SAFE CARDS FOR PURCHASE BUT I DO NOT GET ANY REPLY. COULD YOU ASK YOUR CONTACT IF THIS WILL BE OK. OR AM I AN MULTI ACCOUNTER THEN?
Post by: Matt D on January 16, 2014, 14:04:12 PM
So how do those of us that already have a coral account buy in?
You can download again from: http://www.apat.com/online/ and set up a new account. Any problems, please PM me.
After speaking to my contact @Coral, I need to make an important clarification/correction to the above.
You are not allowed to have an APAT Coral and a Coral account at the same time. Therefore, if you already have a Coral account and want to keep it, then please do not sign up for a new APAT Coral account.
If you have already signed up for an APAT Coral account, but would rather keep your Coral account instead, then please contact support via one of the methods here: http://www.apat.com/help.php and ask for your new APAT Coral account to be closed.
If, however, you are happy for your old Coral account to be closed, then it is fine to sign up for a new APAT Coral account. But please be aware your old account will be closed. To close your old Coral account before signing up for a new APAT Coral count, please contact Support using one of the following methods: http://www.apat.com/help.php
I will also post this info on a new thread, so it"s not missed.
Post by: Optional on January 16, 2014, 14:07:40 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 16, 2014, 14:17:53 PM
If Coral"s final decision is that you won"t be allowed to set up a new account, then I"m sorry but it"s very unlikely that I"ll be able to persuade them otherwise :( They (and I think all other poker companies too) are very strict when it comes to using other peoples credit cards on your own account.
Post by: Optional on January 16, 2014, 14:31:33 PM
Post by: Matt D on January 16, 2014, 14:34:46 PM
Post by: Optional on January 16, 2014, 14:43:44 PM
If i get any news from them i will post it.
Post by: Matt D on January 16, 2014, 15:05:22 PM
Reg. Event #14 PLO Omaha - this is now listed under the correct name in the lobby.
The Main Event holding tank has been split into 2. Please check you are registered for the correct day! If you not, then unreg. from the day you are regged for, and re-reg for the other day.
Post by: AJDUK on January 16, 2014, 23:28:28 PM
Thanks for clarifying points 2 and 3.
With regards point 1 are you saying we have to open a new account to be able to register for the WCOAP through the Coral platform?
FAO Matt D
Amongst all the questions that have been answered, this important one has been ignored. I"d like the answer to this as well.
Post by: Matt D on January 16, 2014, 23:33:42 PM
Thanks for clarifying points 2 and 3.
With regards point 1 are you saying we have to open a new account to be able to register for the WCOAP through the Coral platform?
FAO Matt D
Amongst all the questions that have been answered, this important one has been ignored. I"d like the answer to this as well.
Andrew, this certainly hasn"t been ignored. If I had not answered it, it would have been due to missing it rather than deliberately ignoring it! But as it happens, I did answer via PM to you on 14th January @ 4.48pm.
Post by: s4ooter on January 16, 2014, 23:46:00 PM
Post by: AJDUK on January 17, 2014, 02:33:17 AM
Thanks for clarifying points 2 and 3.
With regards point 1 are you saying we have to open a new account to be able to register for the WCOAP through the Coral platform?
FAO Matt D
Amongst all the questions that have been answered, this important one has been ignored. I"d like the answer to this as well.
Andrew, this certainly hasn"t been ignored. If I had not answered it, it would have been due to missing it rather than deliberately ignoring it! But as it happens, I did answer via PM to you on 14th January @ 4.48pm.
??? You may have PM"d GiMac, but you didn"t PM me (that would have required you to be psychic!!). Answer should appear on the forum though for the benefit of all?
Post by: AJDUK on January 17, 2014, 02:39:59 AM
Tbf to Matt its been explained on numerous occasions, in numerous threads that you can get live support to "upgrade" your old account so you can reg for WCOAP?
Been following all the threads with interest and certainly haven"t seen it explicitly mentioned that I can take any old Coral account, "upgrade" it, and allow me to reg for WCOAP without needing to download the APAT sponsored by Coral software. If closing an existing Coral account is part of the deal, I"d like to avoid that. Which was the point of GiMac"s original post.
Do you have to open a different account via the link? Just logged in and can see the schedule.
Yes, although APAT games will be visible on Coral, you won"t be able to buy-in to most of them. You will only be able to do that if you are accessing it via an account created from our site: http://www.apat.com/online
So how do those of us that already have a coral account buy in?
You can download again from: http://www.apat.com/online/ and set up a new account. Any problems, please PM me.
Are you saying we have to have a coral account linked to APAT to be able to play future online APAT games?
Some games we will open to the whole Coral network, but other games will be exclusive to APAT (e.g. value added games, the upcoming National Online League, National Online Cup, etc.)
What if we are already signed up to Coral"s through another affiliate and wish to remain loyal to that affiliate as we have a great deal with them? Are we then excluded from future APAT events?
Unfortunately, we"re obviously not able to award added value games to players who haven"t signed up through us.
Thanks for clarifying points 2 and 3.
With regards point 1 are you saying we have to open a new account to be able to register for the WCOAP through the Coral platform?
In other words, is the only way to register for WCOAP to close any existing Coral account and download the APAT version? I note that Matt has said that Coral will close any multiple Coral accounts, so even though some have thus far managed to get themselves a second Coral (i.e.APAT) account (e.g. AMRN) it"s possible that one or all of those will be closed by Coral later if I"m understanding that right.
Post by: Sugar_Free on January 17, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
Post by: Matt D on January 17, 2014, 11:25:52 AM
Thanks for clarifying points 2 and 3.
With regards point 1 are you saying we have to open a new account to be able to register for the WCOAP through the Coral platform?
FAO Matt D
Amongst all the questions that have been answered, this important one has been ignored. I"d like the answer to this as well.
Andrew, this certainly hasn"t been ignored. If I had not answered it, it would have been due to missing it rather than deliberately ignoring it! But as it happens, I did answer via PM to you on 14th January @ 4.48pm.
??? You may have PM"d GiMac, but you didn"t PM me (that would have required you to be psychic!!). Answer should appear on the forum though for the benefit of all?
Apologies. It was late and I was tired. I thought you were bumping a post that you had initially made, and that I had PMed the answer to you.
Will clarify the situation by updating the "Problems" thread with the answer, and also post it here.
I think by "upgrade" Dann meant download, then notifty Coral and swap over to the new client - so an "upgrade" in that sense.
edit: reworded above to make more sense
Post by: Matt D on January 17, 2014, 12:17:33 PM
Yes, and no. You will be able to register for some games via an old Coral account. e.g. you are able to register for the WCOAP via an old Coral account (though this is actually due to a configuration error, and was not intentional).
You will not be able to register for National Online League, National Online Cup, any games that have value added, etc.
We may make online versions of APAT events available to Coral players too. e.g. WCOAP Online, APAT National Events.
As previously noted, you cannot have an APAT Coral and Coral account at the same time, so to play the APAT exclusive games you will need to close your Coral account. If at the point you close your old Coral account you are registered for games (e.g. WCOAP holding tank) you will be unregistered for them, and money returned to your account.
Post by: AJDUK on January 17, 2014, 12:29:14 PM
Post by: Des on January 17, 2014, 13:21:39 PM
Post by: Des on January 17, 2014, 13:48:08 PM
Were you there and if so how did you do?
Who else do you recognise from the video?
Post by: Paulie_D on January 17, 2014, 14:49:03 PM
Post by: Anthony Gale on January 19, 2014, 18:32:47 PM
Apologies if the question has already be discussed.
I have reserved a seat for the main event on Evenbright, is it possible to reserve seats for the side events or do you have to buy in for the full amount
Many thanks
Anthony
Post by: Des on January 19, 2014, 20:13:27 PM
Hi
Apologies if the question has already be discussed.
I have reserved a seat for the main event on Evenbright, is it possible to reserve seats for the side events or do you have to buy in for the full amount
Many thanks
Anthony
Hi Anthony,
Side event seats will go on eventbrite in the next day or two.
Cheers
Des
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 20, 2014, 17:46:38 PM
Hi
Apologies if the question has already be discussed.
I have reserved a seat for the main event on Evenbright, is it possible to reserve seats for the side events or do you have to buy in for the full amount
Many thanks
Anthony
Hi Anthony,
Side event seats will go on eventbrite in the next day or two.
Cheers
Des
How will this work with someone that res , compared to someone that can straight buy in , say end off this week or next week ? People will res and block out seats, were someone with straight but can not get in if the all seats become reserved
Post by: Joker161 on January 20, 2014, 22:08:17 PM
Clearly I rate my chances, reserving the Razz as well as the 6-max on the Friday, and the Cash as well as the PLO8 on the Saturday. Main Event on the Sunday.
See you all on Good Friday!
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 20, 2014, 22:30:17 PM
Got bored with trying to sort Coral out. Just reserved all my seats with "Eventbrite". Only £2 a go for the minor events. All very straightforward.
Clearly I rate my chances, reserving the Razz as well as the 6-max on the Friday, and the Cash as well as the PLO8 on the Saturday. Main Event on the Sunday.
See you all on Good Friday!
See you then ,I am looking to straight buy in for Horse,6Max,Razz,PLO8,Cash and Main Event and hopefully run good in early events....Medal hunting
Post by: mylesfdo on January 20, 2014, 22:42:52 PM
Got bored with trying to sort Coral out. Just reserved all my seats with "Eventbrite". Only £2 a go for the minor events. All very straightforward.
Clearly I rate my chances, reserving the Razz as well as the 6-max on the Friday, and the Cash as well as the PLO8 on the Saturday. Main Event on the Sunday.
See you all on Good Friday!
Sent u message mate...get in touch if want to work out car share and or hotel room up there!!
Post by: RumFund on January 21, 2014, 04:57:23 AM
i have made reservations for 3 tourneys, are the reservations guaranteed?
Post by: Paulie_D on January 21, 2014, 11:00:10 AM
Quick simple question i hope
i have made reservations for 3 tourneys, are the reservations guaranteed?
Answer....
The APAT Eventbrite facility to "reserve a seat" for APAT events allows players to pay a non-refundable fee (immediately to Eventbrite) to guarantee them a seat in the event.
To redeem a guaranteed seat the player must fulfil the event registration requirements on the day of the event at the venue (where appropriate, these will be displayed on Eventbrite) and pay the FULL tournament buy-in (ie the event entry plus any reg/admin fee - so for example the FULL £75+£7.50). If a player fails to redeem their guaranteed seat option, they will be able to join the Alternates List as and when they do turn up at the venue. The Alternates List will be operated by APAT on a first come, first served basis.
It is EMPHASISED - the Eventbrite reservation fee is in ADDITION to the event buyin and reg fee that you have to pay on the day.
All monies raised via Eventbrite are specifically set aside and allocated to the costs of personnel to provide the much desired (by members) service of updating/blogging at APAT events.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14331.0
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 21, 2014, 13:00:58 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on January 21, 2014, 13:54:41 PM
The size of the pots will be adjusted once the lads have a grip on the way things are going.
I think it likely that the online buy-in will close fairly early to allow plenty of time to get the money to Aspers.
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 21, 2014, 14:40:00 PM
I believe that the idea was that there were two separate "pots" of seats for online buy-in and reserved seats.
The size of the pots will be adjusted once the lads have a grip on the way things are going.
I think it likely that the online buy-in will close fairly early to allow plenty of time to get the money to Aspers.
I read somewhere the holding tank online is open until 31 march , reserve seats can block out a lot if this live now already
Post by: Paulie_D on January 21, 2014, 14:45:37 PM
I believe that the idea was that there were two separate "pots" of seats for online buy-in and reserved seats.
The size of the pots will be adjusted once the lads have a grip on the way things are going.
I think it likely that the online buy-in will close fairly early to allow plenty of time to get the money to Aspers.
I read somewhere the holding tank online is open until 31 march , reserve seats can block out a lot if this live now already
Not if there are a limited number of "reservable" seats.
Post by: vulcan107 on January 21, 2014, 15:57:08 PM
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 21, 2014, 16:11:47 PM
I believe that the idea was that there were two separate "pots" of seats for online buy-in and reserved seats.
The size of the pots will be adjusted once the lads have a grip on the way things are going.
I think it likely that the online buy-in will close fairly early to allow plenty of time to get the money to Aspers.
I read somewhere the holding tank online is open until 31 march , reserve seats can block out a lot if this live now already
Not if there are a limited number of "reservable" seats.
Wasn"t sure there was a limited number of reservable seats, if this is the case then fine, pay day for me in a few days, book up the side events and fingers crossed there is still place for main event next payday, over staking at the minute too.... Got to pay out for WCOAP staking on top of my buy ins place got to refund cousin accommodation costs this month too.....better get on coral to grind out my 100% match bonus with out going busto....6250 more points needed
Post by: bear21 on January 21, 2014, 16:27:20 PM
Also what does shootout mean ???And I take it
antes means normal holdem with antes every hand ??
not trying to sound stupid but when you read this can"t be helped LOL
cheers for any replys
Post by: dwh103 on January 21, 2014, 17:03:51 PM
Been told omaha 8 is Hi-LO ?? is this correct
Also what does shootout mean ???And I take it
antes means normal holdem with antes every hand ??
not trying to sound stupid but when you read this can"t be helped LOL
cheers for any replys
Omaha High/Low = Omaha 8 - they"re the same thing, the 8 refers to "8 or better" which is the qualifier for the low half of the pot.
Shootout is a bunch of SNGs with the winner of each SNG proceeding to the next round.
Antes Only means just that. No blinds, everyone antes, and then there"s a minimum for subsequent bets. Regular NLHE post flop. Google is your friend.
Post by: bear21 on January 21, 2014, 17:22:21 PM
thanks
Post by: jayteejack on January 21, 2014, 18:34:54 PM
I believe that the idea was that there were two separate "pots" of seats for online buy-in and reserved seats.
The size of the pots will be adjusted once the lads have a grip on the way things are going.
I think it likely that the online buy-in will close fairly early to allow plenty of time to get the money to Aspers.
I read somewhere the holding tank online is open until 31 march , reserve seats can block out a lot if this live now already
Not if there are a limited number of "reservable" seats.
Wasn"t sure there was a limited number of reservable seats, if this is the case then fine, pay day for me in a few days, book up the side events and fingers crossed there is still place for main event next payday, over staking at the minute too.... Got to pay out for WCOAP staking on top of my buy ins place got to refund cousin accommodation costs this month too.....better get on coral to grind out my 100% match bonus with out going busto....6250 more points needed
And I think your cousin should get preference ;D Not that I"m biased -just think he"s a nice guy;)
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 21, 2014, 18:50:29 PM
I believe that the idea was that there were two separate "pots" of seats for online buy-in and reserved seats.
The size of the pots will be adjusted once the lads have a grip on the way things are going.
I think it likely that the online buy-in will close fairly early to allow plenty of time to get the money to Aspers.
I read somewhere the holding tank online is open until 31 march , reserve seats can block out a lot if this live now already
Not if there are a limited number of "reservable" seats.
Wasn"t sure there was a limited number of reservable seats, if this is the case then fine, pay day for me in a few days, book up the side events and fingers crossed there is still place for main event next payday, over staking at the minute too.... Got to pay out for WCOAP staking on top of my buy ins place got to refund cousin accommodation costs this month too.....better get on coral to grind out my 100% match bonus with out going busto....6250 more points needed
And I think your cousin should get preference ;D Not that I"m biased -just think he"s a nice guy;)
That"s why is payday on Friday I don"t get paid much yet, maybe I should ask for a pay increase now I passed my aat nvq4 exams back in November
Post by: GatlingGob on January 23, 2014, 23:50:12 PM
Post by: IrishTom on January 24, 2014, 07:55:30 AM
Question For Des or anyone else involved in running the event if i buy in direct on the Coral site for the Shootout as well as 6 max on friday if i am still in the shootout at 4 can i just go to cash bit and get my money back for the 6 max or will it go back to my coral account. Also if am on fumes in the shootout will i be able to multi table ??
The "Coral Online" holding tank money will be transferred to Aspers Casino prior to the event - so if you have to withdraw from the 6-max you"ll do so at the Aspers Casino poker room cash desk and they will refund your money there and then.
You can "multi-table register" for events, however, you cannot actually "multi-play play" any events.
Post by: AMRN on January 24, 2014, 09:13:36 AM
It"s listed at the start of this thread as £55, but the holding tank wants £65?
Is the £55/£65 the full liability, or are there rebuy/add on opportunities to account for?
What is the structure this time round?
Cheers
Post by: Paulie_D on January 24, 2014, 11:24:57 AM
Questions re #13 Cash Championship.
It"s listed at the start of this thread as £55, but the holding tank wants £65?
Is the £55/£65 the full liability, or are there rebuy/add on opportunities to account for?
What is the structure this time round?
Cheers
Could it include this....?
Quote
snip
...Of the £15 fee, £10 will be a Championship payment, which is collected from all players
snip
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=13981.msg220763#msg220763
Post by: AMRN on January 24, 2014, 11:38:28 AM
Questions re #13 Cash Championship.
It"s listed at the start of this thread as £55, but the holding tank wants £65?
Is the £55/£65 the full liability, or are there rebuy/add on opportunities to account for?
What is the structure this time round?
Cheers
Could it include this....?Quote
snip
...Of the £15 fee, £10 will be a Championship payment, which is collected from all players
snip
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=13981.msg220763#msg220763
Thanks - had missed that thread.
Guess I"d better buy in for this in case I have an accident in the PLO8..... and after all, I have a title to defend :)
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 17:55:47 PM
Questions re #13 Cash Championship.
It"s listed at the start of this thread as £55, but the holding tank wants £65?
Is the £55/£65 the full liability, or are there rebuy/add on opportunities to account for?
What is the structure this time round?
Cheers
Could it include this....?Quote
snip
...Of the £15 fee, £10 will be a Championship payment, which is collected from all players
snip
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=13981.msg220763#msg220763
Thanks - had missed that thread.
Guess I"d better buy in for this in case I have an accident in the PLO8..... and after all, I have a title to defend :)
Not if I am there to take all the Mr Redferns hard earned reddies....
Post by: ECB247 on January 24, 2014, 18:39:29 PM
I would like to buy a seat for the WCOAP 2014 Main Event beginning the 19th.
If i buy the 1A £110 in the Coral Lobby, is that the actually seat for the live tournament or am i reserving a seat for an online final that will be played on the 31st of March? And also what is the difference between buying the 1A and 1B?
Thanks a lot in advance :)
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 18:43:07 PM
Post by: Hutch on January 24, 2014, 19:03:03 PM
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 19:14:06 PM
Myself and Mr Garden have booked in for most of the week. Without reading the entire thread ( too lazy) am I right in assuming I can buy-in through the coral skin for the side events and ME?
All Side event and main even at on the carol site for direct buy in, but need to make sure have the apat(Coral) skin or you wont see the live buy ins
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on January 24, 2014, 19:39:17 PM
Not if I am there to take all the Mr Redfernshard earnedreddies he acquired whilst sitting around playing candy crush and telling people to "turn it off and turn it on again"....
FYP
He is an IT Manager after all
Post by: ECB247 on January 24, 2014, 20:13:59 PM
You buyin online , once 31st march happens the money is transferred to the casino and will be played out over 2 day ones and then come back for day two on the monday
Thank you very much for explaining.
But i"m still confused about the 1A and 1B, what does it mean and do i need to buy both?
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 20:25:19 PM
You buyin online , once 31st march happens the money is transferred to the casino and will be played out over 2 day ones and then come back for day two on the monday
Thank you very much for explaining.
But i"m still confused about the 1A and 1B, what does it mean and do i need to buy both?
2 x day one"s (Sat and Sunday) and then Day 2 on the monday
1a is Sat and 1b is Sun (buy into only 1 of them) both days will have 200 runners
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 20:26:58 PM
Not if I am there to take all the Mr Redfernshard earnedreddies he acquired whilst sitting around playing candy crush and telling people to "turn it off and turn it on again"....
FYP
He is an IT Manager after all
"Legend" i played cash with him last year at dtd and we talked a bit about plo8
Post by: ECB247 on January 24, 2014, 20:39:09 PM
2 x day one"s (Sat and Sunday) and then Day 2 on the monday
1a is Sat and 1b is Sun (buy into only 1 of them) both days will have 200 runners
Thanks for clearing that up :) So they are the same tournament only played on two different days. I"m guessing because they don"t have the capacity of 400 players at the same time?
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 20:52:04 PM
2 x day one"s (Sat and Sunday) and then Day 2 on the monday
1a is Sat and 1b is Sun (buy into only 1 of them) both days will have 200 runners
Thanks for clearing that up :) So they are the same tournament only played on two different days. I"m guessing because they don"t have the capacity of 400 players at the same time?
correct but this is how they play most main event at wcoap every year
Post by: ECB247 on January 24, 2014, 21:00:20 PM
correct but this is how they play most main event at wcoap every year
oh okey :) I"m Norwegian and moving to the UK in February and found out about WCOAP yeasterday.
Post by: Des on January 24, 2014, 21:03:04 PM
correct but this is how they play most main event at wcoap every year
oh okey :) I"m Norwegian and moving to the UK in February and found out about WCOAP yeasterday.
Welcome aboard Edgar. You have quite a treat in store at your first WCOAP. A Norweigan made the final table of the main event in 2009.
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 21:05:54 PM
correct but this is how they play most main event at wcoap every year
oh okey :) I"m Norwegian and moving to the UK in February and found out about WCOAP yeasterday.
Welcome aboard Edgar. You have quite a treat in store at your first WCOAP. A Norweigan made the final table of the main event in 2009.
Dont worry only my 2nd outing (after playing 5 or so events last year)
@ Des the penguins are out for a visit to WCOAP again...
Post by: Des on January 24, 2014, 21:24:03 PM
correct but this is how they play most main event at wcoap every year
oh okey :) I"m Norwegian and moving to the UK in February and found out about WCOAP yeasterday.
Welcome aboard Edgar. You have quite a treat in store at your first WCOAP. A Norweigan made the final table of the main event in 2009.
Dont worry only my 2nd outing (after playing 5 or so events last year)
@ Des the penguins are out for a visit to WCOAP again...
Got to love those Lassman penguins! ;)
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on January 24, 2014, 21:27:42 PM
correct but this is how they play most main event at wcoap every year
oh okey :) I"m Norwegian and moving to the UK in February and found out about WCOAP yeasterday.
Welcome aboard Edgar. You have quite a treat in store at your first WCOAP. A Norweigan made the final table of the main event in 2009.
Dont worry only my 2nd outing (after playing 5 or so events last year)
@ Des the penguins are out for a visit to WCOAP again...
Got to love those Lassman penguins! ;)
Down for a few event at the minute and looking to lock up some more seats my got to pay off the cousin accomadation cost 1st ,you would have thought he was a nice person lol
Post by: ECB247 on January 24, 2014, 21:30:31 PM
Welcome aboard Edgar. You have quite a treat in store at your first WCOAP. A Norweigan made the final table of the main event in 2009.
Thank you :)
That"s awesome! What was his/her name?
Post by: Des on January 25, 2014, 10:17:55 AM
Welcome aboard Edgar. You have quite a treat in store at your first WCOAP. A Norweigan made the final table of the main event in 2009.
Thank you :)
That"s awesome! What was his/her name?
Oystein Eggen
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=4247.msg74384#msg74384
Post by: Raccers84 on January 26, 2014, 16:08:23 PM
Will there be any satellties running and if so when.
I"m wondering about this aswell?
Post by: IrishTom on January 26, 2014, 16:53:07 PM
Will there be any satellties running and if so when.
I"m wondering about this aswell?
Yes there will be - Matt is working on it (but he is away for a few days)
Post by: frazer on January 28, 2014, 02:57:12 AM
Post by: ECB247 on January 29, 2014, 20:22:57 PM
Oystein Eggen
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=4247.msg74384#msg74384
Thanks. Never heard about him, but that"s cool :)
Anyone have any info about the payout structure?
Post by: daveyb147 on February 03, 2014, 10:35:00 AM
Post by: bear21 on February 03, 2014, 19:19:26 PM
Post by: daveyb147 on February 03, 2014, 19:22:28 PM
Post by: gosling67 on February 04, 2014, 09:39:53 AM
really ?? thought might be earlier as 12 pm start,,cant remember structure !! thanks tho
Usually play 15 levels Dave - 45 mins each, plus breaks, then chip counts ... I"ve (optimisticly) started researching night buses ;)
Post by: fandango on February 04, 2014, 12:56:44 PM
really ?? thought might be earlier as 12 pm start,,cant remember structure !! thanks tho
Can"t you get back in the batmobile?
Post by: daveyb147 on February 04, 2014, 13:13:25 PM
Post by: HERBIEHACKIT on February 06, 2014, 10:11:26 AM
Post by: Jon MW on February 06, 2014, 10:47:20 AM
.... he says stratford is a dangerous **** hole ...
lol I"ve heard people say this about almost every town I"ve been to play poker at - and I"ve never seen anyone ever have any problem at any of them.
I think a lot of people are just easily scared.
Post by: AJDUK on February 06, 2014, 11:33:05 AM
.... he says stratford is a dangerous **** hole ...
lol I"ve heard people say this about almost every town I"ve been to play poker at - and I"ve never seen anyone ever have any problem at any of them.
I think a lot of people are just easily scared.
Except in Luton last year at the team event where one of our own got smacked over the back of the head at 4am on his way back from the casino to the hotel and spent a few hours in casualty after having stitches.
Can"t see why you would want to jump on this comment. Some places can be a bit more dangerous than others and information like that from James is valuable IMO.
Post by: Curlarge on February 06, 2014, 13:21:37 PM
.... he says stratford is a dangerous **** hole ...
lol I"ve heard people say this about almost every town I"ve been to play poker at - and I"ve never seen anyone ever have any problem at any of them.
I think a lot of people are just easily scared.
Except in Luton last year at the team event where one of our own got smacked over the back of the head at 4am on his way back from the casino to the hotel and spent a few hours in casualty after having stitches.
Can"t see why you would want to jump on this comment. Some places can be a bit more dangerous than others and information like that from James is valuable IMO.
Just another in a very long line of irrelevant comments made by someone who rarely even attends APAT events. Obviously has nothing better to do.
Post by: HERBIEHACKIT on February 06, 2014, 13:29:02 PM
.... he says stratford is a dangerous **** hole ...
lol I"ve heard people say this about almost every town I"ve been to play poker at - and I"ve never seen anyone ever have any problem at any of them.
I think a lot of people are just easily scared.
i am not scared mate. i am more than capable of looking after myself.ashamed to say it but in the past i have battled in a great number of cities in the uk including london. its just a word of warning to be aware. as for trouble, we had a tad in prague.
Post by: Paulie_D on February 06, 2014, 13:50:26 PM
. as for trouble, we had a tad in prague.
First I heard of it. I am not doubting you Herbie but you are correct in that all cities / places can have these issues.
Reasonable caution should always be taken.
Obviously what happened to Mr Murray was nasty but I have attended many events in Luton and made my drunken way back to the hotel late at night without any trouble.
Post by: Jon MW on February 06, 2014, 13:54:22 PM
.... he says stratford is a dangerous **** hole ...
lol I"ve heard people say this about almost every town I"ve been to play poker at - and I"ve never seen anyone ever have any problem at any of them.
I think a lot of people are just easily scared.
Except in Luton last year at the team event where one of our own got smacked over the back of the head at 4am on his way back from the casino to the hotel and spent a few hours in casualty after having stitches.
Can"t see why you would want to jump on this comment. Some places can be a bit more dangerous than others and information like that from James is valuable IMO.
Just another in a very long line of irrelevant comments made by someone who rarely even attends APAT events. Obviously has nothing better to do.
If saying somewhere is dangerous is relevant - how is saying, no it isn"t not relevant?
I know East London very well and Stratford quite well - some places are more dangerous than others but the absolute level of risk in anywhere APAT has gone to play poker has always been low in absolute terms.
I did come on line to ask something relating to a newcomer to the game playing - but the tone of this kind of comment makes me re-think whether this is the right kind of introduction I would want for them.
Post by: poker_jason on February 06, 2014, 14:04:52 PM
I can"t really speak of the gang culture - however a leopard doesn"t change it spots even when billions are invested in an area.
This may be 2014 post Olympics but I would take extra care and vigilance, travel by taxi if in doubt, travel in groups if possible, etc. I would not be wandering too far late at night (or in the day in some area"s) on my own.
If there is any trouble I would be prepared to expect the worst, i.e. it would not be unexpected for the use of a knife, glass, screwdriver, etc in any altercation. This includes in most of the surrounding area"s where your lovely B&B"s & hotels are.
Post by: Paulie_D on February 06, 2014, 15:03:36 PM
.... he says stratford is a dangerous **** hole ...
lol I"ve heard people say this about almost every town I"ve been to play poker at - and I"ve never seen anyone ever have any problem at any of them.
I think a lot of people are just easily scared.
Except in Luton last year at the team event where one of our own got smacked over the back of the head at 4am on his way back from the casino to the hotel and spent a few hours in casualty after having stitches.
Can"t see why you would want to jump on this comment. Some places can be a bit more dangerous than others and information like that from James is valuable IMO.
Just another in a very long line of irrelevant comments made by someone who rarely even attends APAT events. Obviously has nothing better to do.
If saying somewhere is dangerous is relevant - how is saying, no it isn"t not relevant?
I know East London very well and Stratford quite well - some places are more dangerous than others but the absolute level of risk in anywhere APAT has gone to play poker has always been low in absolute terms.
I did come on line to ask something relating to a newcomer to the game playing - but the tone of this kind of comment makes me re-think whether this is the right kind of introduction I would want for them.
Jon,
I"m not entirely sure this was aimed at you...since it was in response to Andy"s comment.
Personally, I"m not sure what Richard is saying as both you and Andy are regular attendees...perhaps he"s having a bad afternoon.
I"d say let"s leave it...before someone says something they didn"t really mean.
Post by: Curlarge on February 06, 2014, 16:45:02 PM
.... he says stratford is a dangerous **** hole ...
lol I"ve heard people say this about almost every town I"ve been to play poker at - and I"ve never seen anyone ever have any problem at any of them.
I think a lot of people are just easily scared.
Except in Luton last year at the team event where one of our own got smacked over the back of the head at 4am on his way back from the casino to the hotel and spent a few hours in casualty after having stitches.
Can"t see why you would want to jump on this comment. Some places can be a bit more dangerous than others and information like that from James is valuable IMO.
Just another in a very long line of irrelevant comments made by someone who rarely even attends APAT events. Obviously has nothing better to do.
If saying somewhere is dangerous is relevant - how is saying, no it isn"t not relevant?
I know East London very well and Stratford quite well - some places are more dangerous than others but the absolute level of risk in anywhere APAT has gone to play poker has always been low in absolute terms.
I did come on line to ask something relating to a newcomer to the game playing - but the tone of this kind of comment makes me re-think whether this is the right kind of introduction I would want for them.
Jon,
I"m not entirely sure this was aimed at you...since it was in response to Andy"s comment. Yes it was.
Personally, I"m not sure what Richard is saying as both you and Andy are regular attendees...perhaps he"s having a bad afternoon. No I"m not.
I"d say let"s leave it...before someone says something they didn"t really mean.
Just fed up with this contributors continuous inane posts, which are clearly designed to aggravate people and little else.
Post by: Hammerite on February 06, 2014, 21:46:01 PM
failing that just mention my name and you should be ok :D
Post by: LombBomb on February 07, 2014, 11:08:07 AM
Post by: jayteejack on February 07, 2014, 13:50:48 PM
2 c
Post by: PHIL_TC on February 07, 2014, 14:33:29 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on February 07, 2014, 14:50:00 PM
sooooooo tilting..... feeling like I should do a "how to quote" guide ;) x
Fixed....:)
Post by: MintTrav on February 08, 2014, 00:37:45 AM
sooooooo tilting..... feeling like I should do a "how to quote" guide ;) x
Can"t see the need myself.
Post by: AMRN on February 08, 2014, 13:55:23 PM
sooooooo tilting..... feeling like I should do a "how to quote" guide ;) x
Can"t see the need myself.
lol John
Post by: Paulie_D on February 08, 2014, 21:23:33 PM
sooooooo tilting..... feeling like I should do a "how to quote" guide ;) x
Can"t see the need myself.
lol John
I don"t get it...what"s so funny?
Post by: mporter123 on February 11, 2014, 12:19:13 PM
I am looking for three nights Fri-Mon.
Am pretty close to giving up on this to be honest. Can"t seem to find a way where my expenses looks remotely reasonable. Trains, hotels food etc. With all the poker going on around the country (DTD GP just announced for same weekend), its becoming more and more difficult to justify these trips - especially when its London. The events look great and it will be good to see all the people again but bleugh on >£300 before buyins.
Head v Heart war ongoing. :(
Post by: Paulie_D on February 11, 2014, 13:49:37 PM
Has anyone found any decent accommodation deals? Where are people staying?
I am looking for three nights Fri-Mon.
Am pretty close to giving up on this to be honest. Can"t seem to find a way where my expenses looks remotely reasonable. Trains, hotels food etc. With all the poker going on around the country (DTD GP just announced for same weekend), its becoming more and more difficult to justify these trips - especially when its London. The events look great and it will be good to see all the people again but bleugh on >£300 before buyins.
Head v Heart war ongoing. :(
Depends on your accommodation. budget. Want to give me a clue? I may have some free time this afternoon.
Post by: amcgrath1uk on February 11, 2014, 14:01:36 PM
Has anyone found any decent accommodation deals? Where are people staying?
I am looking for three nights Fri-Mon.
Am pretty close to giving up on this to be honest. Can"t seem to find a way where my expenses looks remotely reasonable. Trains, hotels food etc. With all the poker going on around the country (DTD GP just announced for same weekend), its becoming more and more difficult to justify these trips - especially when its London. The events look great and it will be good to see all the people again but bleugh on >£300 before buyins.
Head v Heart war ongoing. :(
Travelodge Stratford £145 for Fri night- Mon morning
Post by: PHIL_TC on February 11, 2014, 14:18:23 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on February 11, 2014, 14:57:42 PM
Travelodge Stratford £145 for Fri night- Mon morning
TBH...given it"s immediate location (well, easy walkability) to the venue...that one is going to be tough to beat.
Post by: amcgrath1uk on February 11, 2014, 15:15:36 PM
Travelodge Stratford £145 for Fri night- Mon morning
TBH...given it"s immediate location (well, easy walkability) to the venue...that one is going to be tough to beat.
which is precisely why I"m there ;)
Post by: mporter123 on February 11, 2014, 15:34:20 PM
Basically my budget was anything that was a hotel (i.e. not a hostel), as cheap as possible.
That Travelodge deal is the best I have seen. Obviously have the option to share as well.
Will have a chat with the missus tonight and have a think.
Post by: fandango on February 11, 2014, 16:29:26 PM
Thanks Asa.
Basically my budget was anything that was a hotel (i.e. not a hostel), as cheap as possible.
That Travelodge deal is the best I have seen. Obviously have the option to share as well.
Will TELL the missus tonight THAT I AM GOING!!
FYP ;D
Post by: s4ooter on February 11, 2014, 16:42:09 PM
High Life :)
Post by: Optional on February 11, 2014, 21:23:51 PM
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on February 11, 2014, 22:22:11 PM
Thanks Asa.
Basically my budget was anything that was a hotel (i.e. not a hostel), as cheap as possible.
That Travelodge deal is the best I have seen. Obviously have the option to share as well.
Will have a chat with the missus tonight and have a think.
Both Cousin and I are there staying from 17th to 20th got it for under £180
Post by: MintTrav on February 12, 2014, 04:34:13 AM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGL_vNtelrM[/youtube]
Post by: Sugar_Free on February 12, 2014, 13:30:40 PM
Post by: Matt D on February 13, 2014, 16:53:39 PM
Any news of sats yet?
I hope to have the information posted in the next couple of days, with the satellites taking place next week.
Satellites will take the following form:
£11 + £1.10. 1 seat in the Main Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Main Event" token, so they can select which day to play.
£5.50 + £0.55. 1 seat in a Side Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Side Event" token, so they can select from any of the side events.
Day-wise, in order to not clash with the upcoming National Online League (launch 2nd March, more info to follow very soon), I"m thinking of setting aside Wednesday evenings instead.
Post by: Paulie_D on February 13, 2014, 17:14:05 PM
Any news of sats yet?
I hope to have the information posted in the next couple of days, with the satellites taking place next week.
Satellites will take the following form:
£11 + £1.10. 1 seat in the Main Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Main Event" token, so they can select which day to play.
£5.50 + £0.55. 1 seat in a Side Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Side Event" token, so they can select from any of the side events.
Day-wise, in order to not clash with the upcoming National Online League (launch 2nd March, more info to follow very soon), I"m thinking of setting aside Wednesday evenings instead.
What about those who have already bought in...can we cash out the tokens?
Post by: Matt D on February 13, 2014, 17:24:10 PM
What about those who have already bought in...can we cash out the tokens?
If you"ve already bought in, you"d be able to unregister from the holding tank which will give you the cash back for that. Then re-register using the token instead.
Post by: Sugar_Free on February 13, 2014, 19:11:26 PM
Any news of sats yet?
I hope to have the information posted in the next couple of days, with the satellites taking place next week.
Satellites will take the following form:
£11 + £1.10. 1 seat in the Main Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Main Event" token, so they can select which day to play.
£5.50 + £0.55. 1 seat in a Side Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Side Event" token, so they can select from any of the side events.
Day-wise, in order to not clash with the upcoming National Online League (launch 2nd March, more info to follow very soon), I"m thinking of setting aside Wednesday evenings instead.
Thanks Matt
So is this just next week or will it be every week?
Post by: Matt D on February 13, 2014, 19:30:40 PM
So is this just next week or will it be every week?
I think it would make sense to set aside certain days of the week for certain types of games, and sticking to them moving onwards.
e.g.
Wednesday = satellite night.
Thursday = cash game night (if I"m ever able to get our private tables set up! Have just nudged my POC for third time re: this).
Sunday = National Online League / National Online Cup.
Of course, there will be some who say "Why Wednesdays? That"s the day I go to bingo" (or similar), but it"s obviously impossible to please everyone.
Post by: Big Club on February 18, 2014, 11:29:45 AM
As for the cost of London, Paulie has found some great deals on the hotels and your biggest expense will be in the casino (no free drinks) A small glass of flat warm coke will set you back £1.70 and a can of red bull is £3.30... having said that food is quite decent and the cardroom is huge and the staff (barring the waitresses) are excellent.
Hope to see you all in Stratford.
Simon
Post by: Matt D on February 18, 2014, 12:44:26 PM
Any news of sats yet?
I hope to have the information posted in the next couple of days, with the satellites taking place next week.
Satellites will take the following form:
£11 + £1.10. 1 seat in the Main Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Main Event" token, so they can select which day to play.
£5.50 + £0.55. 1 seat in a Side Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Side Event" token, so they can select from any of the side events.
Day-wise, in order to not clash with the upcoming National Online League (launch 2nd March, more info to follow very soon), I"m thinking of setting aside Wednesday evenings instead.
Thanks Matt
So is this just next week or will it be every week?
Satellites are now live, and registration open. The first satellites start at 8pm and 8.30pm tomorrow night (Main Event & Side Event satellites). See: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15110.0 for full details.
They are running every Wednesday from this week until 26th March. Please can everyone show their support and play a few. The funky "token" aspect means that rather than set up 14 different Side Event satellites each week, we"ve been able to set up just one a week. Hopefully that means we"ll get 14 times as many runners! :D
Post by: mylesfdo on February 18, 2014, 13:53:38 PM
Any news of sats yet?
I hope to have the information posted in the next couple of days, with the satellites taking place next week.
Satellites will take the following form:
£11 + £1.10. 1 seat in the Main Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Main Event" token, so they can select which day to play.
£5.50 + £0.55. 1 seat in a Side Event for every 10 runners. Winners will receive a "Side Event" token, so they can select from any of the side events.
Day-wise, in order to not clash with the upcoming National Online League (launch 2nd March, more info to follow very soon), I"m thinking of setting aside Wednesday evenings instead.
Thanks Matt
So is this just next week or will it be every week?
Satellites are now live, and registration open. The first satellites start at 8pm and 8.30pm tomorrow night (Main Event & Side Event satellites). See: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15110.0 for full details.
They are running every Wednesday from this week until 26th March. Please can everyone show their support and play a few. The funky "token" aspect means that rather than set up 14 different Side Event satellites each week, we"ve been able to set up just one a week. Hopefully that means we"ll get 14 times as many runners! :D
Any chance of running sattys on sunday night as well as the weds for those of us that work weeknights?
Post by: LittleFozzie on February 19, 2014, 17:54:06 PM
Am new here. I"ve registered for event #1 on the Coral page. On the day do I have to do anything at the cash desk or do I just rock up and take my seat?
Post by: Matt D on February 19, 2014, 18:39:08 PM
Hi all.
Am new here. I"ve registered for event #1 on the Coral page. On the day do I have to do anything at the cash desk or do I just rock up and take my seat?
Hi Stephen
Just turning up is fine. Your name will be on the list and seat draw.
Post by: LittleFozzie on February 19, 2014, 19:15:47 PM
Hi all.
Am new here. I"ve registered for event #1 on the Coral page. On the day do I have to do anything at the cash desk or do I just rock up and take my seat?
Hi Stephen
Just turning up is fine. Your name will be on the list and seat draw.
Excellent. Thanks!
Post by: BillySollocks on February 20, 2014, 21:12:52 PM
Also, anyone familiar enough with the area to know how easy it is to use public transport between Dagenham and the venue?
Thanks.
Post by: Paulie_D on February 21, 2014, 11:55:19 AM
Is there any joining up to do if one is not already a member of Aspers and/or can it be done in advance?
I believe that all Aspers are "open" venues with no membership needed. YOu can get an Aspers Rewards Card (with the usual ID requirements) but I don"t recall ever being asked for a card to enter.
From their website...
"Aspers is membership free and open to those aged 18 or over. Photo ID required if you look under 21. "
Quote
Also, anyone familiar enough with the area to know how easy it is to use public transport between Dagenham and the venue?
Tube it to West Ham and take the DLR to Stratford - 30 minutes(ish) - Longer later.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/standard-tube-map.pdf
Buses
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/maps/buses/pdf/stratford.pdf
Post by: AMRN on February 21, 2014, 15:10:21 PM
Is there any joining up to do if one is not already a member of Aspers and/or can it be done in advance?
I believe that all Aspers are "open" venues with no membership needed. YOu can get an Aspers Rewards Card (with the usual ID requirements) but I don"t recall ever being asked for a card to enter.
From their website...
"Aspers is membership free and open to those aged 18 or over. Photo ID required if you look under 21. "
you won"t be able to collect any tournament winnings, or cash winnings over £1500, unless you are a signed up member though.....
Post by: Paulie_D on February 21, 2014, 16:14:05 PM
you won"t be able to collect any tournament winnings, or cash winnings over £1500, unless you are a signed up member though.....
Not that I disbelieve you Steve but is the based on personal experience at a single site/venue or can you point us to a specific rule / source on t"interwebz?
Post by: AMRN on February 21, 2014, 16:21:15 PM
you won"t be able to collect any tournament winnings, or cash winnings over £1500, unless you are a signed up member though.....
Not that I disbelieve you Steve but is the based on personal experience at a single site/venue or can you point us to a specific rule / source on t"interwebz?
It was what the card room manager told me at Aspers London. The Cash game £1500 bit was on a posted on the wall.
Post by: Paulie_D on February 21, 2014, 17:34:50 PM
you won"t be able to collect any tournament winnings, or cash winnings over £1500, unless you are a signed up member though.....
Not that I disbelieve you Steve but is the based on personal experience at a single site/venue or can you point us to a specific rule / source on t"interwebz?
It was what the card room manager told me at Aspers London. The Cash game £1500 bit was on a posted on the wall.
Hmmm...money laundering thing I guess.
Good to know...I should be so lucky.
Post by: BillySollocks on February 26, 2014, 04:19:33 AM
Post by: EvilomenLT on February 26, 2014, 16:15:47 PM
Post by: marcus6 on March 04, 2014, 15:40:03 PM
Thanks
Post by: Matt D on March 04, 2014, 15:51:07 PM
I have reserved a seat for 3 events from that web-site link! take it i"m ok to turn up pay my money and play that event??
Thanks
Hi Marcus, yes as long as you put your name in when reserving your seats, that"s fine. Just turn up and play.
Post by: marcus6 on March 04, 2014, 16:55:52 PM
I have reserved a seat for 3 events from that web-site link! take it i"m ok to turn up pay my money and play that event??
Thanks
Hi Marcus, yes as long as you put your name in when reserving your seats, that"s fine. Just turn up and play.
Hi,
yea you have to put your name in when you buy/reserve a seat on that site, Happy days then.
see you all there! ;D
Post by: GatlingGob on March 05, 2014, 18:51:21 PM
Post by: Matt D on March 05, 2014, 19:04:43 PM
Just a query for organisers I have just went on Coral website and noticed all the wcoap games have now been removed is there a list of entries going to be posted here anytime soon and I take it the money has now been transferred to Aspers/APAT
Hi Roddy, all APAT games and holding tanks have been moved to a new place: "Coral Exclusive" > "APAT"
Post by: GatlingGob on March 05, 2014, 20:00:27 PM
Post by: Slykllist on March 05, 2014, 21:45:10 PM
Can I please get some clarification on the Omaha event(s). Is this a 2 day event or 2 separate 1 day events? I really want to play it bust if it"s a two day it"s not possible because of how the Main Event day ones fall.
Post by: Matt D on March 05, 2014, 21:49:01 PM
#12 Omaha 8 (aka Omaha hi/lo) on April 19th.
and
#14 PL Omaha on April 20th.
All side events are single day.
Post by: IrishTom on March 05, 2014, 23:06:05 PM
Post by: Sugar_Free on March 06, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
How will this work, seating-wise?
Post by: kevod85 on March 06, 2014, 12:30:54 PM
Post by: marcus6 on March 09, 2014, 21:00:51 PM
I have reserved a seat for 3 events from that web-site link! take it i"m ok to turn up pay my money and play that event??
Thanks
Hi Marcus, yes as long as you put your name in when reserving your seats, that"s fine. Just turn up and play.
Hi,
yea you have to put your name in when you buy/reserve a seat on that site, Happy days then.
see you all there! ;D
Hi there,
i have reserved a seat for 4 comps now!, but i can not seem to find the email showing this, i"m i ok to just turn up and give me name? i take it they will have a list of all that has a seat reserved!
Thanks
marcus
Post by: IrishTom on March 09, 2014, 21:21:38 PM
I have reserved a seat for 3 events from that web-site link! take it i"m ok to turn up pay my money and play that event??
Thanks
Hi Marcus, yes as long as you put your name in when reserving your seats, that"s fine. Just turn up and play.
Hi,
yea you have to put your name in when you buy/reserve a seat on that site, Happy days then.
see you all there! ;D
Hi there,
i have reserved a seat for 4 comps now!, but i can not seem to find the email showing this, i"m i ok to just turn up and give me name? i take it they will have a list of all that has a seat reserved!
Thanks
marcus
Marcus, if you have "reserved" via Eventbrite then you name will be on the list given to the Card Room Cash Desk and all you have to do is fulfil the registration criteria - which will be to turn up at least 30 mins prior to each event, register and buy-in in full - if you fail to do this then you lose your "reserved seat" and it will become available to others at this time and you would then have to join the Alternates list (if event full)
Post by: MrKneeshaw on March 09, 2014, 23:02:04 PM
Many thanks
Post by: Des on March 09, 2014, 23:06:47 PM
Hi guys just a quick question. If we register for an event on the coral apat site are out seats guaranteed and we just turn up on the day or do we need to do anything special? Other than sign up with Aspers?
Many thanks
Hi Louis - nope, that"s all that"s required to secure your seat.
Post by: MrKneeshaw on March 10, 2014, 08:38:33 AM
Post by: davwood2k on March 10, 2014, 13:29:17 PM
Post by: Matt D on March 10, 2014, 13:34:24 PM
I really wanted to participate in this again this year but was let down as could not access the Coral software as it is not available for Mac users. Is there any other/better software or idea for being able to register for these tournaments?
Hi David
You can use the Coral software on the Mac via their Browser version. Alternatively, you can reserve WCOAP seats via the EventBrite system.
For instructions on using Coral on a Mac, see here: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15124.0
Post by: marcus6 on March 10, 2014, 19:28:24 PM
I have reserved a seat for 3 events from that web-site link! take it i"m ok to turn up pay my money and play that event??
Thanks
Hi Marcus, yes as long as you put your name in when reserving your seats, that"s fine. Just turn up and play.
Hi,
yea you have to put your name in when you buy/reserve a seat on that site, Happy days then.
see you all there! ;D
Hi there,
i have reserved a seat for 4 comps now!, but i can not seem to find the email showing this, i"m i ok to just turn up and give me name? i take it they will have a list of all that has a seat reserved!
Thanks
marcus
Marcus, if you have "reserved" via Eventbrite then you name will be on the list given to the Card Room Cash Desk and all you have to do is fulfil the registration criteria - which will be to turn up at least 30 mins prior to each event, register and buy-in in full - if you fail to do this then you lose your "reserved seat" and it will become available to others at this time and you would then have to join the Alternates list (if event full)
Thanks for that, looks like i"ll see you there then! ;D
Thats put my mind at rest!
Post by: MrKneeshaw on March 11, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
what time do we predict the main event will wind up on the monday? or is there a blind structure so i can guestimate, just wondering if i should be booking a hotel on the monday also.
many thanks
Post by: vik on March 11, 2014, 23:47:25 PM
(I assume PLO is 4 card?)
Post by: Chris_Austin on March 12, 2014, 20:03:12 PM
How many cards for PLO8?
(I assume PLO is 4 card?)
It"s 4 card. It"s only normal Omaha but 8 means it"s low as well as high (meaning you can win with a low hand of 5 cards that are 8 or lower 8))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_hold_%27em#Omaha_hi-low_split-8_or_better (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_hold_%27em#Omaha_hi-low_split-8_or_better)
Post by: Chris_Austin on March 12, 2014, 20:16:30 PM
I"ve gone for a hostel, since my pockets aren"t very deep and this is kind of my attempt at taking a shot at higher buy-in tournaments. Globetrott Inns at £13.49 a night. For an extra £1, I don"t need to pack a towel and for an extra £1.50, I can have some sort of breakfast :-X
Post by: vik on March 12, 2014, 21:12:05 PM
4 card PLO8 not so interesting for me, regular PLO might have to do ;D
Post by: Chris_Austin on March 13, 2014, 07:43:04 AM
Post by: MrKneeshaw on March 17, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
just wondering if i buy into the cash side event for £65 on the apat site but i want to sit down with the full £100 for the event, do i just "top up" on the day?
cheers
Post by: IrishTom on March 17, 2014, 15:43:17 PM
Hi guys,
just wondering if i buy into the cash side event for £65 on the apat site but i want to sit down with the full £100 for the event, do i just "top up" on the day?
cheers
yes mate that is correct
Post by: MrKneeshaw on March 18, 2014, 09:56:04 AM
cheers in advance
Post by: Buffenberger on March 18, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
Post by: fandango on March 18, 2014, 16:34:51 PM
Hi . is there a dress code for this casino?When i turned up at luton casino with a hoody and trainers on they would not let me in . Thanks again
Smart casual
No soiled and ripped clothing
No working clothing
No extreme wording and Football shirts ( club colours ) International allowed
No vests, sleeveless shirts
Tailored shorts allowed not swimming shorts or cut off jeans
Open toed shoes allowed
No track suites
No Google glasses
No Steel toe capped boots/shoes or trainers
T shirts or sweatshirts with adult slogans or images
Taken from Aspers web page.. Hope this helps.
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on March 18, 2014, 19:07:47 PM
any idea on the main event structure? blinds, clock, times played on day 1?
cheers in advance
previously 15k, 45min clock, c13 levels played on Day 1.
Full blind structure will be posted soon :)
Post by: PHIL_TC on March 18, 2014, 20:13:47 PM
No Google glasses
Taken from Aspers web page.. Hope this helps.
Interesting. Easy enough to implement now.. but roll on a few years and this will be impossible x
Post by: Matt D on March 18, 2014, 22:28:43 PM
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on March 18, 2014, 23:43:52 PM
No track suites
What"s a track suite? Is it a plush room by a racing circuit?
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on March 25, 2014, 21:56:43 PM
- When will the buy in route via Coral Poker be closed?
- If I want to unregister for an event but don"t manage to do so before the Coral option closes, can I still do that, how and what is the deadline?
- Can we get some clarity on the rules / guidelines for when you are reg"d in multiple events simultaneously - i.e. you are reg"d into an evening event but are still in the afternoon event. I assume your buy in is refunded? If so how? Cash at the venue?
Thanks
Post by: Matt D on March 26, 2014, 16:13:19 PM
1. The buy-in route via Coral with be closed at 8pm 31st March. This is to allow us enough time to get the cash to the casino. After that point you can still reserve via EventBrite, or buy-in at the casino directly.
2. If you won a seat via a satellite you have to use it (or sell it via the seat exchange). If you bought in, then [MODIFIED] after the Coral holding tanks close you"ll need to use the seat exchange as per standard APAT events [MODIFIED]
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on March 27, 2014, 22:28:18 PM
Post by: IrishTom on March 28, 2014, 08:22:48 AM
I have been dipping in and out of this thread so apologies if answers to these questions have been posted already but here goes:
- When will the buy in route via Coral Poker be closed?
- If I want to unregister for an event but don"t manage to do so before the Coral option closes, can I still do that, how and what is the deadline?
- Can we get some clarity on the rules / guidelines for when you are reg"d in multiple events simultaneously - i.e. you are reg"d into an evening event but are still in the afternoon event. I assume your buy in is refunded? If so how? Cash at the venue?
Thanks
Hi JP, either myself or Des will be the APAT Host each day throughout the week, so as long as you advise us whilst still in the "first" tournament and just before the start of the "second" tournament we can un-reg you and get you a cash refund (if you buyin at the venue or via Coral in advance).
Please see Matt's amended post below clarifying that you"ll need to use the seat exchange facility after Coral closes as per standard APAT events.
Post by: fandango on March 29, 2014, 12:22:25 PM
https://expressparking.uk.westfield.com/default.aspx
Although its not a huge saving, just saves the hassle of paying at the machine on departure, and comes straight out of bank/card..
Takes a couple of weeks to come through so if you are thinking of taking advantage I would request ASAP :)
Dunno if Paulie wants to move to travel tips? Might be helpful..
EDIT... ONLY IF YOUR IN WESTFIELD LONDON NOT STRATFORD CITY OOOOOPSSS MY BAD ;D
Post by: Paulie_D on March 29, 2014, 14:58:35 PM
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on March 29, 2014, 20:43:58 PM
Hi JP, either myself or Des will be the APAT Host each day throughout the week, so as long as you advise us whilst still in the "first" tournament and just before the start of the "second" tournament we can un-reg you and get you a cash refund (if you buyin at the venue or via Coral in advance).
Please see Matt's amended post below clarifying that you"ll need to use the seat exchange facility after Coral closes as per standard APAT events.
Nice one Tom - thanks for clarifying
Post by: Diablo on March 31, 2014, 20:59:55 PM
Post by: IrishTom on March 31, 2014, 21:42:13 PM
Looks like I"ve missed deadline to buy seats for the main event. Where can I buy seats for Day 1 of the main event and a side event?
If you visit http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14901.0 you"ll find a link to the APAT Eventbrite facility which is still open to reserve (and guarantee) a seat in all events.
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on March 31, 2014, 22:10:59 PM
Hi JP, either myself or Des will be the APAT Host each day throughout the week, so as long as you advise us whilst still in the "first" tournament and just before the start of the "second" tournament we can un-reg you and get you a cash refund (if you buyin at the venue or via Coral in advance).
Just thinking about this Tom, is it worth building a break into the first tournament just before the 2nd one starts to allow this to take place. Even if it"s a pause mid level.
Also if it appears that the first tournament will end soon or you are very short stacked, can you leave your chips in play in the 2nd? I know DTD have strict rules against this!
Post by: fandango on March 31, 2014, 22:39:24 PM
Hi JP, either myself or Des will be the APAT Host each day throughout the week, so as long as you advise us whilst still in the "first" tournament and just before the start of the "second" tournament we can un-reg you and get you a cash refund (if you buyin at the venue or via Coral in advance).
Just thinking about this Tom, is it worth building a break into the first tournament just before the 2nd one starts to allow this to take place. Even if it"s a pause mid level.
Also if it appears that the first tournament will end soon or you are very short stacked, can you leave your chips in play in the 2nd? I know DTD have strict rules against this!
Yes would like to hear a ruling on this aswell.. E.G. I"m playing antes only on Thursday, starts at 12.00pm and have also regged for HORSE at 7.00pm.. Say come 6.55pm Thursday I have a short stack but a playable stack and HORSE is about to start can I keep regged and I blind/ ante away until I bust then hop straight into HORSE?
..sounds confusing but I know what I mean ;D
Post by: IrishTom on April 01, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
Hi JP, either myself or Des will be the APAT Host each day throughout the week, so as long as you advise us whilst still in the "first" tournament and just before the start of the "second" tournament we can un-reg you and get you a cash refund (if you buyin at the venue or via Coral in advance).
Just thinking about this Tom, is it worth building a break into the first tournament just before the 2nd one starts to allow this to take place. Even if it"s a pause mid level.
Also if it appears that the first tournament will end soon or you are very short stacked, can you leave your chips in play in the 2nd? I know DTD have strict rules against this!
Yes would like to hear a ruling on this aswell.. E.G. I"m playing antes only on Thursday, starts at 12.00pm and have also regged for HORSE at 7.00pm.. Say come 6.55pm Thursday I have a short stack but a playable stack and HORSE is about to start can I keep regged and I blind/ ante away until I bust then hop straight into HORSE?
..sounds confusing but I know what I mean ;D
I also know what you mean so no worries! However, if we are to have a rule that "no multi-tabling is allowed", then we can"t afford to be wishy-washy about it - if we let "a short stack" stay in the event for 5 mins until he loses his stack, what do we do if he doubles up? what do we do with the guy who had a large stack but went out either 1 min before the short stack or the same time (and we un-reg"d him from the 2nd event because he had a large stack) - or he went out 10 seconds after the small stack - we have to have a "line" - and that line is best drawn at the 2nd event start - so, with no multi-tabling the "cut-off" remains the start of the 2nd event for players to unreg.
I would point out that I"m working on finalising a player briefing/schedules for all events and each event will have a short "late entry" period (obv is seats are available!).
Post by: NoCash on April 01, 2014, 10:06:02 AM
Hi guys thought anyone who is thinking of leaving their car in the Westerfield car park for WCOAP may be interested in the following link..
https://expressparking.uk.westfield.com/default.aspx
Although its not a huge saving, just saves the hassle of paying at the machine on departure, and comes straight out of bank/card..
Takes a couple of weeks to come through so if you are thinking of taking advantage I would request ASAP :)
Dunno if Paulie wants to move to travel tips? Might be helpful..
Unfortunately this is for Westfield London only...
from the faq....
Is Express Parking available at Westfield Stratford City?
At the moment this service is only available at Westfield London. If we decide to extend the service to Westfield Stratford City, we will be in contact to advise all Express Parking members.
Post by: fandango on April 01, 2014, 10:55:39 AM
Hi guys thought anyone who is thinking of leaving their car in the Westerfield car park for WCOAP may be interested in the following link..
https://expressparking.uk.westfield.com/default.aspx
Although its not a huge saving, just saves the hassle of paying at the machine on departure, and comes straight out of bank/card..
Takes a couple of weeks to come through so if you are thinking of taking advantage I would request ASAP :)
Dunno if Paulie wants to move to travel tips? Might be helpful..
Unfortunately this is for Westfield London only...
from the faq....
Is Express Parking available at Westfield Stratford City?
At the moment this service is only available at Westfield London. If we decide to extend the service to Westfield Stratford City, we will be in contact to advise all Express Parking members.
Oh...good spot better check lol..
Cheers Gareth google wasn"t my friend on that particular day, unknown to me Westfield is a large shopping chain ;D an indeed have numerous outlets who"d of funked it?
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 01, 2014, 20:33:38 PM
However, if we are to have a rule that "no multi-tabling is allowed"
I would point out that I"m working on finalising a player briefing/schedules for all events and each event will have a short "late entry" period (obv is seats are available!).
Thanks again tom
On the first point above, are we definitely saying that? I thought it was a DTD rule in the past! Fine if we are, but just want absolutely clarity (and apologies if that was already stated.)
On the second point, if that is the case then I think it would be wise to build a break or a 5 minute "clock pause" mid level 15 mins before the start of the next tournament so that those this in can avoid breaking the rules and get their refund.
Post by: chrish1976 on April 02, 2014, 19:42:29 PM
Post by: AMRN on April 02, 2014, 19:52:09 PM
I wonder if anybody can help me, looking to save money and come down Saturday morning rather than Friday but due to the main event starting at 12 o"clock I will not be able to check in till later so will there be a dinner break or a break longer than 30 minutes for me to check in to my hotel? Cheers chris
I have same problem - either have to check in very early (unlikely though), or let the hotel know that you won"t arrive til very very late. I"m going for the latter.
Post by: Ant1966 on April 02, 2014, 21:39:30 PM
Post by: IrishTom on April 02, 2014, 22:50:00 PM
I wonder if anybody can help me, looking to save money and come down Saturday morning rather than Friday but due to the main event starting at 12 o"clock I will not be able to check in till later so will there be a dinner break or a break longer than 30 minutes for me to check in to my hotel? Cheers chris
Chris I expect there will be a 30 min break circa L8-L9 (although I expect you could check in before 1200 noon - leave luggage and they will move your luggage to your room when ready?)
Post by: IrishTom on April 02, 2014, 22:51:43 PM
However, if we are to have a rule that "no multi-tabling is allowed"
I would point out that I"m working on finalising a player briefing/schedules for all events and each event will have a short "late entry" period (obv is seats are available!).
Thanks again tom
On the first point above, are we definitely saying that? I thought it was a DTD rule in the past! Fine if we are, but just want absolutely clarity (and apologies if that was already stated.)
I can confirm that multi-tabling is not allowed.
Post by: IrishTom on April 02, 2014, 22:52:46 PM
Have we any idea on numbers registered for Day 1b of the main event? The holding tanks have closed and the reserve facility on eventbrite won"t allow anymore reservations for day 1b.
Should be able to reserve now via Eventbrite..
Post by: Padooki on April 03, 2014, 08:16:01 AM
Post by: IrishTom on April 03, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
Post by: Padooki on April 03, 2014, 16:15:18 PM
Post by: Padooki on April 03, 2014, 16:41:04 PM
Cheers again
Post by: IrishTom on April 04, 2014, 13:32:55 PM
Cheers Tom. Can you confirm the schedule of events before I buy in. Page 1 of this thread includes an Antes Only comp, which is not shown on the Aspers website. The schedule on the HendonMob also doesn"t include the Antes Only comp and many events are shown to be on different days...
Hi Haresh, - my fault that as I hadn"t updated The Hendon Mob - I"ve done that now so they will change it to read the same as the opening para which is correct and up-to-date - I"ll also drop Aspers an email for them to update their site.
Thanks for the heads up.
Tom
Post by: IrishTom on April 04, 2014, 13:34:12 PM
Can you provide some info on the actual tournaments? Just need to know the starting stack and clock for each event. The blind structure for the Main and Hi-roller would also be useful. I understand you guys are busy and don"t mean to bombard you with questions but it"s just stuff I and other poker players need to be aware of before the event.
Cheers again
Just putting the finishing touches to these - and once I"ve had the thoughts of Des and Matt on them then they will be published - which I"d hope and expect to be able to do over this weekend.
Post by: redsimon on April 04, 2014, 15:54:35 PM
Post by: MCTachyon on April 04, 2014, 18:28:55 PM
I can"t find any of the events to buy in to? Just a few freerolls and same £5-11 online MMTs.
Have all the events been booked up?
Thanks in advance.
Post by: marcus6 on April 04, 2014, 18:35:51 PM
could we please have the right times of all the comps! as some of the times are not the same now! could you let us have a full list of all the starting times!
Thanks
Post by: Matt D on April 04, 2014, 19:22:26 PM
I"ve just downloaded the Coral software and navigated to APAT tournaments.
I can"t find any of the events to buy in to? Just a few freerolls and same £5-11 online MMTs.
Have all the events been booked up?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Ryan, welcome to the forum :)
Did you download from http://www.apat.com/online or direct from Coral"s website?
The holding tanks are now closed, in order for Coral to have time to transfer the money to Aspers.
The reserve-a-seat option is still open here: http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/amateur-poker-association-amp-tour-4053909103
We are waiting on confirmation that Aspers have opened pre-event buy-in direct at the casino.
Post by: marcus6 on April 04, 2014, 20:19:46 PM
Hi guys,
could we please have the right times of all the comps! as some of the times are not the same now! could you let us have a full list of all the starting times!
Thanks
Hi there,
could you please confirm the TIMES!! as i"m playing 4 comps, and i dont want to turn up only to be told my seat has gone as i was not there on time!!
so with that said could you please let us all know of the right starting times for all events!
Thanks
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 05, 2014, 00:40:40 AM
Hi guys,
could we please have the right times of all the comps! as some of the times are not the same now! could you let us have a full list of all the starting times!
Thanks
Hi there,
could you please confirm the TIMES!! as i"m playing 4 comps, and i dont want to turn up only to be told my seat has gone as i was not there on time!!
so with that said could you please let us all know of the right starting times for all events!
Thanks
The published list is here
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14901.0
Where have you seen different to cause confusion?
Post by: marcus6 on April 05, 2014, 00:54:33 AM
Hi guys,
could we please have the right times of all the comps! as some of the times are not the same now! could you let us have a full list of all the starting times!
Thanks
Hi there,
could you please confirm the TIMES!! as i"m playing 4 comps, and i dont want to turn up only to be told my seat has gone as i was not there on time!!
so with that said could you please let us all know of the right starting times for all events!
Thanks
The published list is here
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14901.0
Where have you seen different to cause confusion?
Here is where i have seen it! http://www.aspersstratford.co.uk/poker-room.html#upcoming think you need to give them a list to go by! as the Antes Only Championship is not even on the list, and the six max is down as starting at 12 noon on there site as you can see! but on here the APAT site its down for starting at 4pm
so i"m asking you what list do we go by??
Thanks
Post by: Optional on April 05, 2014, 01:54:24 AM
Hi guys,
could we please have the right times of all the comps! as some of the times are not the same now! could you let us have a full list of all the starting times!
Thanks
Hi there,
could you please confirm the TIMES!! as i"m playing 4 comps, and i dont want to turn up only to be told my seat has gone as i was not there on time!!
so with that said could you please let us all know of the right starting times for all events!
Thanks
Just read what the guys are telling. rhe times on the apat site are correct...
Post by: marcus6 on April 05, 2014, 08:29:41 AM
Hi guys,
could we please have the right times of all the comps! as some of the times are not the same now! could you let us have a full list of all the starting times!
Thanks
Hi there,
could you please confirm the TIMES!! as i"m playing 4 comps, and i dont want to turn up only to be told my seat has gone as i was not there on time!!
so with that said could you please let us all know of the right starting times for all events!
Thanks
Just read what the guys are telling. rhe times on the apat site are correct...
Sorry! But is there anything wrong with asking, and making 110% sure of the times!
Thanks
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 05, 2014, 10:30:23 AM
I have no doubt someone from APAT will be along very shortly to clarify...
Post by: s4ooter on April 05, 2014, 10:50:22 AM
I have pre Regged Event #1 but travel times mean I may be 30mins late to the casino, am I right in thinking that my stack will be in play from the get go?! Or will it be like DTD in which your stack isn"t in play until you arrive?? Cheers
Post by: IrishTom on April 05, 2014, 10:52:32 AM
Nothing wrong with asking Marcus. Especially if the Aspers list is different. However the APAT list will be correct.
I have no doubt someone from APAT will be along very shortly to clarify...
Hey Marcus, I can confirm the schedule is as per the APAT website - I"m trying to get Aspers to update their site ASAP.
Tom
Post by: marcus6 on April 05, 2014, 11:15:46 AM
Nothing wrong with asking Marcus. Especially if the Aspers list is different. However the APAT list will be correct.
I have no doubt someone from APAT will be along very shortly to clarify...
Hey Marcus, I can confirm the schedule is as per the APAT website - I"m trying to get Aspers to update their site ASAP.
Tom
Thank you so much tom!
Marcus
Post by: 22mikes22 on April 05, 2014, 13:39:19 PM
Post by: KarmaDope on April 05, 2014, 13:45:16 PM
where can i find info on starting stack and structures?
Hi Mike, welcome to APAT.
The answer to your question isn"t yet known - update was provided yesterday and is quoted below:
Can you provide some info on the actual tournaments? Just need to know the starting stack and clock for each event. The blind structure for the Main and Hi-roller would also be useful. I understand you guys are busy and don"t mean to bombard you with questions but it"s just stuff I and other poker players need to be aware of before the event.
Cheers again
Just putting the finishing touches to these - and once I"ve had the thoughts of Des and Matt on them then they will be published - which I"d hope and expect to be able to do over this weekend.
Post by: MCTachyon on April 05, 2014, 14:18:04 PM
I"ve just downloaded the Coral software and navigated to APAT tournaments.
I can"t find any of the events to buy in to? Just a few freerolls and same £5-11 online MMTs.
Have all the events been booked up?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Ryan, welcome to the forum :)
Did you download from http://www.apat.com/online or direct from Coral"s website?
The holding tanks are now closed, in order for Coral to have time to transfer the money to Aspers.
The reserve-a-seat option is still open here: http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/amateur-poker-association-amp-tour-4053909103
We are waiting on confirmation that Aspers have opened pre-event buy-in direct at the casino.
I downloaded from this site.
The reservation? Does that guarantee me a seat? If so I might just reserve the 4 events I want to play and rock up as normal.
Post by: Matt D on April 05, 2014, 14:48:25 PM
I"ve just downloaded the Coral software and navigated to APAT tournaments.
I can"t find any of the events to buy in to? Just a few freerolls and same £5-11 online MMTs.
Have all the events been booked up?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Ryan, welcome to the forum :)
Did you download from http://www.apat.com/online or direct from Coral"s website?
The holding tanks are now closed, in order for Coral to have time to transfer the money to Aspers.
The reserve-a-seat option is still open here: http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/amateur-poker-association-amp-tour-4053909103
We are waiting on confirmation that Aspers have opened pre-event buy-in direct at the casino.
I downloaded from this site.
The reservation? Does that guarantee me a seat? If so I might just reserve the 4 events I want to play and rock up as normal.
Yes, reserving guarantees you a seat.
It costs £2 per side event, and £5 for the main event. This is in addition to the cost of playing, and there"s no refund if you don"t turn up.
Though, it guarantees your place, and gives you the option to decide right up until the start of each event whether or not to play.
Post by: marcus6 on April 05, 2014, 15:08:58 PM
where can i find info on starting stack and structures?
only one can hope its going to be a good structure & starting stack! :-\
Post by: Matt D on April 05, 2014, 15:14:32 PM
where can i find info on starting stack and structures?
only one can hope its going to be a good structure & starting stack! :-\
The Main Event stack/structure is here: http://www.apat.com/index.php/live-schedule/tournament-structure/
Tom is finalising side event structures with Aspers, and will post when confirmed. s4ooter, this is also the case for late reg. rules.
Post by: IrishTom on April 05, 2014, 15:29:50 PM
This may have been answered, but I"ll ask anyways.
I have pre Regged Event #1 but travel times mean I may be 30mins late to the casino, am I right in thinking that my stack will be in play from the get go?! Or will it be like DTD in which your stack isn"t in play until you arrive?? Cheers
This will be confirmed/clarified asap.
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 05, 2014, 15:54:00 PM
where can i find info on starting stack and structures?
only one can hope its going to be a good structure & starting stack! :-\
The Main Event stack/structure is here: http://www.apat.com/index.php/live-schedule/tournament-structure/
Tom is finalising side event structures with Aspers, and will post when confirmed. s4ooter, this is also the case for late reg. rules.
Used to be that we"d get 50% more chips in the ME to reflect the fact that we were paying an extra £25 (compared to the Nationals). What do we have to show for it now?
Post by: marcus6 on April 05, 2014, 20:24:02 PM
if its 15K for the main! what you going to have for the side events :o
Post by: GatlingGob on April 06, 2014, 18:01:38 PM
Is it possible to say have 30k for main event and just miss a level or make them a bit quicker I think most people would agree that a slightly quicker structure and more starting chips is better also for sides say 10/15k starting stack.
This is by no means a moan about structure of main as it worked fine last year just an opinion.
Post by: marcus6 on April 06, 2014, 18:27:51 PM
Thanks
Post by: TheSnapper on April 06, 2014, 18:45:58 PM
This is a £110 tournament and the structure is superb imho.
Post by: dwh103 on April 06, 2014, 18:48:14 PM
PLO events may need slightly more chips or more/slower levels due to higher average pot sizes.
And lammers for the heads up (and maybe the PLO events) for a few levels to even out some variance.
Post by: CW86 on April 06, 2014, 18:51:21 PM
Post by: Jon MW on April 06, 2014, 18:52:35 PM
... I think most people would agree that a slightly quicker structure and more starting chips is better also for sides say 10/15k starting stack.
...
I"m not sure they would, and even if they would it doesn"t mean that"s "best"
Starting stack is irrelevant compared to the structure, it"s nice to have a million chips but pretty pointless if the second level blinds are 100,000/200,000 :D
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 06, 2014, 19:18:55 PM
For the record, I"m not suggesting 30K for the ME or any change to the sides (although I didn"t play the Omaha last year so I don"t know if that needed changing) , just something to differentiate from the Nationals (apart from the extra cost to us).
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 06, 2014, 19:38:42 PM
Post by: jockey on April 06, 2014, 20:47:59 PM
Post by: Zozzy on April 06, 2014, 21:43:39 PM
Hi Des/Tom, do I have to have an invite for champions final or just turn up
Blatant Brag !
Post by: AMRN on April 06, 2014, 21:50:08 PM
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 06, 2014, 22:36:12 PM
Post by: jockey on April 07, 2014, 16:31:18 PM
Hi Des/Tom, do I have to have an invite for champions final or just turn up
Blatant Brag !
Post by: Dawnie on April 07, 2014, 17:46:42 PM
i was at Aspers yesterday and asked the cardroom manager about buying into another event as i wanted to play one more and he said he was only taking dosh for the main event not the sides.
where else can i buy in pls?
Post by: fandango on April 07, 2014, 19:59:23 PM
hi folks
i was at Aspers yesterday and asked the cardroom manager about buying into another event as i wanted to play one more and he said he was only taking dosh for the main event not the sides.
where else can i buy in pls?
Hi Dawn good to see you post , if you go to page 1 of this thread and at the top you can reserve a seat for £2 then turn up on the day and you are garunteed a seat.
Take care see you at Aspers..
Post by: Optional on April 07, 2014, 20:25:25 PM
Discussions about starting stacks are completely irrelevant and detract from the main focus - which should be the blind level structure, pure and simple. 15k, 20k, 30k - doesn"t matter if the levels aren"t correct.
PLO events may need slightly more chips or more/slower levels due to higher average pot sizes.
And lammers for the heads up (and maybe the PLO events) for a few levels to even out some variance.
Totally agree with you!
If somebody prefer more stack because of faster blinds does not understand anything oft the game...
Post by: IrishTom on April 07, 2014, 21:59:40 PM
hi folks
i was at Aspers yesterday and asked the cardroom manager about buying into another event as i wanted to play one more and he said he was only taking dosh for the main event not the sides.
where else can i buy in pls?
I"m awaiting confirmation from Aspers but, currently, they only have the facility to take "on site" pre-registration/buyin for the Main Event, High Roller Open and Heads Up - will continue to chase and advise asap.
As Fandango says - visit page 1 of this topic to view the APAT facility which will let you reserve a seat up until 12:00 noon on Mon 14th April (as long as they don"t sell out - it is a first-come-first-served basis).
Post by: IrishTom on April 07, 2014, 22:02:12 PM
When will we see a player briefing with the structure for all of the events and player lists. It would be good to know the amount of runners each event has attracted so far.
Trying to get these finalised asap - but yes you will see exactly that.
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 07, 2014, 22:54:36 PM
When will we see a player briefing with the structure for all of the events and player lists. It would be good to know the amount of runners each event has attracted so far.
Trying to get these finalised asap - but yes you will see exactly that.
Thanks Tom - I know you guys have a lot to do so it"s great to have the post acknowledged. I look forward to seeing it.
Post by: mylesfdo on April 07, 2014, 23:16:28 PM
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15285.0 (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15285.0)
Post by: AAroddersAA on April 08, 2014, 09:03:49 AM
Post by: AMRN on April 08, 2014, 09:25:45 AM
Out of interest any plans to run apat cash tables in Stratford. Does anybody know what cash games run normally?
The low stakes cash games are very soft - if I end up playing cash, I would actively avoid a table full of APAT regs in favour of a swim in the well stocked fish ponds!
Post by: Curlarge on April 08, 2014, 13:34:47 PM
Post by: MCTachyon on April 08, 2014, 20:08:57 PM
I"ve just downloaded the Coral software and navigated to APAT tournaments.
I can"t find any of the events to buy in to? Just a few freerolls and same £5-11 online MMTs.
Have all the events been booked up?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Ryan, welcome to the forum :)
Did you download from http://www.apat.com/online or direct from Coral"s website?
The holding tanks are now closed, in order for Coral to have time to transfer the money to Aspers.
The reserve-a-seat option is still open here: http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/amateur-poker-association-amp-tour-4053909103
We are waiting on confirmation that Aspers have opened pre-event buy-in direct at the casino.
I downloaded from this site.
The reservation? Does that guarantee me a seat? If so I might just reserve the 4 events I want to play and rock up as normal.
Yes, reserving guarantees you a seat.
It costs £2 per side event, and £5 for the main event. This is in addition to the cost of playing, and there"s no refund if you don"t turn up.
Though, it guarantees your place, and gives you the option to decide right up until the start of each event whether or not to play.
Thank you for this Matt.
I look forward to seeing you all there for what should be a great weekend.
GL.
Post by: redsimon on April 09, 2014, 08:28:37 AM
I booked 2 seats per event for all the non hold em MTTs one for me, one for friend. Will the fact there both booked in my name cause problems on the day?
any answer to this
Post by: IrishTom on April 09, 2014, 09:52:34 AM
I"m considering changing some of the games I"m entered for, how do I do this please?
Rich please PM what the problem is
Post by: IrishTom on April 09, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
I booked 2 seats per event for all the non hold em MTTs one for me, one for friend. Will the fact there both booked in my name cause problems on the day?
any answer to this
Hi Simon, I see you have 2 seats reserved via Eventbrite for #2 Stud Championship (so presume all other non-NLHE events) so please just advise the name for the 2nd ticket - PM to myself or on the day (please remember as booked via Eventbrite you must turn and register/buyin in full at least 30 minutes before event start time - otherwise the seats go on sale on a first-come-first-served basis).
Post by: Slim Chance on April 09, 2014, 11:37:30 AM
Does anyone happen to know which one is best for us to use for the casino? Thanks
Post by: Matt D on April 09, 2014, 12:49:11 PM
Yes, reserving guarantees you a seat.
It costs £2 per side event, and £5 for the main event. This is in addition to the cost of playing, and there"s no refund if you don"t turn up.
Though, it guarantees your place, and gives you the option to decide right up until the start of each event whether or not to play.
Thank you for this Matt.
I look forward to seeing you all there for what should be a great weekend.
GL.
Hi Ryan, and others , please note as per Tom's post above if you have an Eventbrite seat you must register in the casino 30 minutes before the game starts or your seat will be released and made available to others.
I"ll PM you this info too.
Post by: Dawnie on April 09, 2014, 16:22:48 PM
I notice in the travel thread that a link says that there are car parks A, B & C.
Does anyone happen to know which one is best for us to use for the casino? Thanks
car park B!!! do not attempt anywhere else or when coming out you will get lost esp in the evening aim for row numbers 103-108
Post by: Dawnie on April 09, 2014, 16:35:41 PM
Side event seat for sale here if anyone wants to grab a bargain!!
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15285.0 (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15285.0)
purchased :) will be using it to play the mixed event on the wednesday evening
Post by: Dawnie on April 09, 2014, 16:47:19 PM
1. cash games - the cash games are a plenty and in the main as long as you avoid the regs soft as they come, lots of ppl turn up, esp late at night, with their 80 quid, lose it and off they go. tends to be in the main 1-1 and the odd 1-2 nlh but on friday night easily have 12 tables going
2. car parking - as per my post above, pls pls pls avoid car park a and c esp if night tournies, car park b, there is a charge unless you are a silver member
3. food and drink in the casino - there is a charge for everything but water, cup tea plus biccies 50p, wont break the bank, what will is the booze! it is not cheap. food is okay but nothing special but just outside the casino are loads an loads of food places, from thai street food to GBK (with the best peanut butter milkshakes ever) to TGFI to good old fish and chips. you will never go hungry in stratford
4. trouble - well i have been playing there from the start and never expereinced any trouble, i am sure if you walk down the road, waving your wad about shouting "loads of wonga" you might attract some undesirables but i havent seen any. if in doubt just pair up. The train station is near enough within the complex so you dont have to walk any real distance to anywhere
5. tables and slots - lots of both, you wont get bored but again you may go skint :)
6. dealers/card room managers - in the opening days the dealing staff left a little bit to be desired but i have to say they have been knocked into shape by john and ian for sure who run a good card room in the main. you will always get punters who try to push it but they are pretty good at keeping us all in line
if you need anything else answered i am more than happy to, i know i havent posted on here much but was lucky enough to be part of the winning team at stoke this year and really looking forward to playing these events next week which offer such a good chance to do something away from the norm.
look forward to seeing you all
Dawn
Many thanks for this Dawn - John (Scanlon - Poker Room Manager) certainly has been working his team of dealers this past few months and assures me they are now all up to speed in "non standard" games which is very reassuring to hear.
I"m down in Aspers this weekend for IPO London and some cash action prior to WCOAP (working Tue - Fri) - anyone going to be there for that?
ps expect to release all event schedules tomorrow (and hopefully player briefing but 1 important point still to be finalised with Aspers on that).
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 09, 2014, 18:36:31 PM
Post by: Matt D on April 09, 2014, 18:49:34 PM
I think I"m speaking for everyone. Thanks Dawn, that"s all very helpful. Look forward to seeing you next week.
+1 great stuff. Thanks Dawn :)
Post by: fandango on April 09, 2014, 19:53:43 PM
I think I"m speaking for everyone. Thanks Dawn, that"s all very helpful. Look forward to seeing you next week.
+1 great stuff. Thanks Dawn :)
Excellent thanks Dawn :)
See you Thursday for the Antes only in ya BB attire?
Post by: Dawnie on April 09, 2014, 20:12:34 PM
I think I"m speaking for everyone. Thanks Dawn, that"s all very helpful. Look forward to seeing you next week.
+1 great stuff. Thanks Dawn :)
Excellent thanks Dawn :)
See you Thursday for the Antes only in ya BB attire?
Alas I still haven"t got any bb stuff, Gordon is bringing me down some patches I hope :)
Post by: Joker161 on April 09, 2014, 20:40:02 PM
I"ve been up in Stratford a lot this year for work. One food tip - Cafe Football which is two minutes from the casino. It sounds and looks tacky, but they have a chef who has worked in a Michelin starred restaurant. The menu is football ground stuff (pie and mash, etc.) but some of the dishes are really good. The sausage roll is pulled pork with black pudding with homemade baked beans. Lovely!
Getting excited!
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 10, 2014, 12:41:13 PM
2. car parking - as per my post above, pls pls pls avoid car park a and c esp if night tournies, car park b, there is a charge unless you are a silver member
Hi dawn - is that point written from a "distance to walk" perspective or a safety & security perspective? I was thinking of leaving my car there for the duration as my hotel has no parking.
And to echo the other comments, thanks for the info.
Post by: AMRN on April 10, 2014, 13:27:54 PM
2. car parking - as per my post above, pls pls pls avoid car park a and c esp if night tournies, car park b, there is a charge unless you are a silver member
Hi dawn - is that point written from a "distance to walk" perspective or a safety & security perspective? I was thinking of leaving my car there for the duration as my hotel has no parking.
And to echo the other comments, thanks for the info.
I suspect it might be from the perspective of sheer scale, and losing your car.
I"m planning to park in B, and to leave it there from Saturday lunchtime to Monday night - I believe it"s around a tenner per 24 hr period.
Post by: fandango on April 10, 2014, 14:26:33 PM
2. car parking - as per my post above, pls pls pls avoid car park a and c esp if night tournies, car park b, there is a charge unless you are a silver member
Hi Dawn, just out of interest what is a silver member? Is that for casino?
Post by: Curlarge on April 10, 2014, 15:25:05 PM
2. car parking - as per my post above, pls pls pls avoid car park a and c esp if night tournies, car park b, there is a charge unless you are a silver member
Hi Dawn, just out of interest what is a silver member? Is that for casino?
Blatant I"ve only won Gold brag!!!!! sigh.....
Post by: Dawnie on April 10, 2014, 15:48:17 PM
Silver relates to aspers aspire membership, nothing else lol.
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 10, 2014, 19:09:03 PM
CAr park b for distance and convienence, lift in the middle goes straight to the third floor for the casino.
Silver relates to aspers aspire membership, nothing else lol.
Magic Darts, thanks
I"m bronze :(
Post by: fandango on April 10, 2014, 21:44:04 PM
2. car parking - as per my post above, pls pls pls avoid car park a and c esp if night tournies, car park b, there is a charge unless you are a silver member
Hi Dawn, just out of interest what is a silver member? Is that for casino?
Blatant I"ve only won Gold brag!!!!! sigh.....
FYP....Gold"s"!!! sigh...
Post by: Des on April 11, 2014, 14:22:41 PM
2. car parking - as per my post above, pls pls pls avoid car park a and c esp if night tournies, car park b, there is a charge unless you are a silver member
Hi Dawn, just out of interest what is a silver member? Is that for casino?
Blatant I"ve only won Gold brag!!!!! sigh.....
FYP....Gold"s"!!! sigh...
lol and sigh all at the same time!
Echoing the others, thanks for your contribution Dawn.
Post by: chrish1976 on April 11, 2014, 22:06:24 PM
Post by: IrishTom on April 11, 2014, 23:09:16 PM
If someone decided to turn up on the day for the main event will there be seats available or has the seats been taken up. I know they can reserve but they are not online at the moment
Hi Chris, yes you can turn up and "take your chance" that seats will be available on the day - I expect to publish tomorrow the player briefing and numbers/names for each event along with each event structure - so that will give you a better idea
Post by: suzanne on April 12, 2014, 00:38:22 AM
CAr park b for distance and convienence, lift in the middle goes straight to the third floor for the casino.
Silver relates to aspers aspire membership, nothing else lol.
Thanks for the info Dawn.
Can I ask...with it being a shopping centre is there anywhere open for food around 3am? I must have a kebeb/chicken after a session :)
Post by: Dawnie on April 12, 2014, 06:35:51 AM
CAr park b for distance and convienence, lift in the middle goes straight to the third floor for the casino.
Silver relates to aspers aspire membership, nothing else lol.
Thanks for the info Dawn.
Can I ask...with it being a shopping centre is there anywhere open for food around 3am? I must have a kebeb/chicken after a session :)
Lol sorry to say no not in the vicinity of Westfield. You could find one in Stratford but I wouldn"t go wandering round looking for one if I ak honest. Are you staying nearby?
Post by: ajcairns on April 12, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
Where can I currently find confirmation of all this?
Post by: Curlarge on April 12, 2014, 11:31:37 AM
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 12, 2014, 16:40:15 PM
Post by: suzanne on April 13, 2014, 00:24:58 AM
CAr park b for distance and convienence, lift in the middle goes straight to the third floor for the casino.
Silver relates to aspers aspire membership, nothing else lol.
Thanks for the info Dawn.
Can I ask...with it being a shopping centre is there anywhere open for food around 3am? I must have a kebeb/chicken after a session :)
Lol sorry to say no not in the vicinity of Westfield. You could find one in Stratford but I wouldn"t go wandering round looking for one if I ak honest. Are you staying nearby?
Im at the Premier Inn which inside the complex I think so wont be wandering around too far.
Weeeeep at no chicken :( I know what I am like though and probably will go looking for one.
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 13, 2014, 08:53:13 AM
I expect to publish tomorrow the player briefing and numbers/names for each event along with each event structure
Any sign of this yet? After all, it starts the day after tomorrow. Why is everything this season last minute?
Post by: Chipaccrual on April 13, 2014, 10:28:28 AM
I expect to publish tomorrow the player briefing and numbers/names for each event along with each event structure
Any sign of this yet? After all, it starts the day after tomorrow. Why is everything this season last minute?
I believe Tom has made Day Two of the IPO at Aspers, Stratford. I would imagine that may be a reason for the delay in information being provided. Just guessing mind you.
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
I expect to publish tomorrow the player briefing and numbers/names for each event along with each event structure
Any sign of this yet? After all, it starts the day after tomorrow. Why is everything this season last minute?
I believe Tom has made Day Two of the IPO at Aspers, Stratford. I would imagine that may be a reason for the delay in information being provided. Just guessing mind you.
Thanks Leigh - would be nice to say that is the reason - but alas - few problems that have taken "forever" to iron out - hopefully have full agreement between everyone concerned now and once Des/Matt do a quality control on my player briefing (I"ve just this minute asked them to do it) that will be released - also just awaiting final and full agreement between parties for each event structure - and have some work to do to pull the "pre-reg/reserved" names together (and double check the finances) - so that will be pretty soon when I bust Day 2!
Post by: hi_am_chris on April 13, 2014, 11:00:40 AM
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 13, 2014, 11:50:31 AM
I have been dipping in and out of this thread so apologies if answers to these questions have been posted already but here goes:
- When will the buy in route via Coral Poker be closed?
- If I want to unregister for an event but don"t manage to do so before the Coral option closes, can I still do that, how and what is the deadline?
- Can we get some clarity on the rules / guidelines for when you are reg"d in multiple events simultaneously - i.e. you are reg"d into an evening event but are still in the afternoon event. I assume your buy in is refunded? If so how? Cash at the venue?
Thanks
Hi JP, either myself or Des will be the APAT Host each day throughout the week, so as long as you advise us whilst still in the "first" tournament and just before the start of the "second" tournament we can un-reg you and get you a cash refund (if you buyin at the venue or via Coral in advance).
Please see Matt's amended post below clarifying that you"ll need to use the seat exchange facility after Coral closes as per standard APAT events.
Guys, as the orginal response was amended. Can I get absolute clarity that the "seat exchange only" rule does not apply to the scenario of sill being in the earlier tourney and that players will get a refund in these scenarios?
Post by: AAroddersAA on April 13, 2014, 15:45:12 PM
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 13, 2014, 15:48:36 PM
Just trying to look on google maps but do any locals know if there are any Tesco"s or Asda"s nearby?
Just local shops for local people
Post by: Dawnie on April 13, 2014, 15:53:37 PM
Just trying to look on google maps but do any locals know if there are any Tesco"s or Asda"s nearby?
walk through to the old stratford centre (over the bridge) you will find a sainsburys and there is a small Tesco express in the high street. marks and sparks and waitrose actually in westfield
Post by: AAroddersAA on April 13, 2014, 16:09:27 PM
Just trying to look on google maps but do any locals know if there are any Tesco"s or Asda"s nearby?
Just local shops for local people
I am local in my local area.
Just trying to look on google maps but do any locals know if there are any Tesco"s or Asda"s nearby?
walk through to the old stratford centre (over the bridge) you will find a sainsburys and there is a small Tesco express in the high street. marks and sparks and waitrose actually in westfield
Many thanks sure I can manage to find that
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 13, 2014, 17:21:21 PM
Post by: emmajane81 on April 13, 2014, 17:33:24 PM
1, What time do you have to be at the casino to pay the £110 (we have reserved ours seats for £5 on the APAT site)
2, I know we start with 15,000 and its a 40 minute clock, what do the blinds start at.
3, Is there a blind structure with break times available.
Hope some people can help and see you there :)
Post by: Optional on April 13, 2014, 19:16:32 PM
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 20:55:41 PM
is there any day 1b seats left my girlfriend and I have prebooked but a friend was thinking of coming if he can get time of work and if he reserves a ticket pays fiver but cant make it what happens to his place can another player take it cheers
Hi Aaron, yes if he reserves a seat via the APAT Eventbrite facility that will guarantee him his seat (as long as he turns up at least 30 mins prior to the event and claims it) - if he doesn"t turn up then he can advise a name for it to be transferred to.
Post by: chrish1976 on April 13, 2014, 20:56:10 PM
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 21:38:56 PM
Hi there all this is mine and my boyfriends first live APAT event, we have entered in the main event starting on day 1b, could someone be kind enough to give me the following information
1, What time do you have to be at the casino to pay the £110 (we have reserved ours seats for £5 on the APAT site)
2, I know we start with 15,000 and its a 40 minute clock, what do the blinds start at.
3, Is there a blind structure with break times available.
Hope some people can help and see you there :)
Hi Emma,
1. AT LEAST 30 minutes prior - if you miss this deadline then the seats will be re-allocated.
2. The structure has actually been ever so slightly tweaked after consultation with Aspers (and taking all things into consideration) - it will be a 20k stack on a 40 min clock - blinds will start at 25/50 for the Main Event
3. I"m just waiting final confirmation before publishing this - but I hope we have given everyone plenty of "play" whilst still ensuring we complete the event on time (and with a strong possibility we sell out both Day 1s with 200 each day)
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 21:40:01 PM
I have a couple of people who want to pre register for the main event this weekend but cannot seem to join the apat is it ok for them to pre register and sort out joining the apat when they can?
Sure
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 21:43:09 PM
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 21:44:09 PM
Well played Tom!
Thank you - at one point I thought it was meant to be - then reality set in!
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 21:47:38 PM
Post by: whiskeyjack58 on April 13, 2014, 22:09:30 PM
As advised in the WCOAP 2014 Player Briefing HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15299.0), the stacks/clock for each event can be found HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14901.0)
I have bought into 3 events through coral, now that the events have been removed from the site I have no confirmation I have entered for them. Are you planning to post the names on entrants ?
Post by: IrishTom on April 13, 2014, 22:11:42 PM
As advised in the WCOAP 2014 Player Briefing HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15299.0), the stacks/clock for each event can be found HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14901.0)
I have bought into 3 events through coral, now that the events have been removed from the site I have no confirmation I have entered for them. Are you planning to post the names on entrants ?
Yes mate, working on it right now.
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 14, 2014, 03:15:25 AM
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 03:35:30 AM
Having not played a live shootout before but knowing how they work, it could take some time to play out? Possibility/risk of some tables not filling up and therefore not starting if you"re a late entrant?
Chris that"s a good point - in discussions with Aspers they would play "short-handed" over 10 tables no matter how many turned up at the start - ideally we"ll have 10 tables 10-handed - but if we only get 50 players then we will be 10 tables 5-handed - and the winner of each table will progress through to the Final Table which will be 10-handed.
However, this structure doesn"t lend itself to a "late entry" period which I"ll have to re-consider.
Post by: Dawnie on April 14, 2014, 07:09:10 AM
Post by: Dawnie on April 14, 2014, 07:17:26 AM
Post by: Jon MW on April 14, 2014, 08:23:49 AM
It doesn"t make much of a difference obviously, but I just thought I remembered that it had an open policy for walk ins
Post by: MintTrav on April 14, 2014, 08:29:33 AM
Post by: redsimon on April 14, 2014, 08:50:42 AM
Stud and Razz have identical structures, but very different starting stacks.
Yes big thumbs up for 10K stack in Stud, slightly disappointed only 6k chips in Razz :(
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 14, 2014, 08:55:06 AM
Guys, as the orginal response was amended. Can I get absolute clarity that the "seat exchange only" rule does not apply to the scenario of sill being in the earlier tourney and that players will get a refund in these scenarios?
Tom- I see you have now answered this in the player briefing section so thanks very much.
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 09:33:37 AM
I assume there will be no late entry for the heads up as again this would be a advantage potentially or hold up the second round
That"s correct - no late entry planned for Shootout or Heads Up (although of course if we don"t max out at 64 for Heads Up we"d still let people sign up if play was still ongoing in round 1 - to try to get to 64)
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 14, 2014, 09:35:32 AM
Stud and Razz have identical structures, but very different starting stacks.
Yes big thumbs up for 10K stack in Stud, slightly disappointed only 6k chips in Razz :(
Agree with the thumbs up bit, but more than slightly disappointed with the Razz stack. It"s the same game, same structure, same buy in, but why is Razz the poor relation?
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 14, 2014, 10:06:45 AM
Guys it is fantastic that we have increased starting stacks for so many of the side events including most of the Stud Based Fixed Limit events as the most we have ever had is 6k as far as I can recall.
What are your thoughts on increasing the starting stack in the Razz event to match the other stud based events?
Keep up the good work ;D
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 10:19:31 AM
Does someone have to be a member of Aspers to get in and rail?
It doesn"t make much of a difference obviously, but I just thought I remembered that it had an open policy for walk ins
Yep open policy for walk in - only need to join as a member to play poker.
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 10:24:36 AM
....or put another way on the Razz stack-size issue...
Guys it is fantastic that we have increased starting stacks for so many of the side events including most of the Stud Based Fixed Limit events as the most we have ever had is 6k as far as I can recall.
What are your thoughts on increasing the starting stack in the Razz event to match the other stud based events?
Keep up the good work ;D
I spoke with Aspers about the 6k yesterday and for some reason they wanted to stick with 6k - I"ll discuss again tonight.
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 10:29:52 AM
Guys, as the orginal response was amended. Can I get absolute clarity that the "seat exchange only" rule does not apply to the scenario of sill being in the earlier tourney and that players will get a refund in these scenarios?
Tom- I see you have now answered this in the player briefing section so thanks very much.
Yea no problem - I think the system will work quite well (fingers crossed!) and keep the effort of players to a minimum to actually "get a refund" - actually, there is no work to be done to get a refund (apart from physically go collect cash) but they won"t have to un-reg and therefore as it won"t intrude into their "event 1" game I can"t think of a better way.
Sorry it took so long (was a fair bit of to and fro involved!).
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
Player Briefing with details of venue, registration, prizes etc see HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15299.0)
Full WCOAP Schedule of Events HERE (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14901.0)
Post by: AMRN on April 14, 2014, 10:39:17 AM
15k for PLO/PLO8, and 20k for Main Event, and both with excellent blinds structures.
Post by: cincicrappykid on April 14, 2014, 13:32:48 PM
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 13:41:49 PM
Hi Tom, any news re refund from day 1 b as discussed earlier.....................?
Replied to your FB message last night Tony
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 14, 2014, 14:05:32 PM
I spoke with Aspers about the 6k yesterday and for some reason they wanted to stick with 6k - I"ll discuss again tonight.
I think it"s because Razz is generally played by Grumpy Old men and a 10k starting stack would see the event last many days!!
Certainly the three previous posters on this subject would back up that notion ;)
Post by: Paulie_D on April 14, 2014, 14:28:30 PM
Post by: NPenfold on April 14, 2014, 14:48:05 PM
BTW +1 on the 10k stack for the Razz. Razz is also played by grumpy young men since only 34 :o
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 14, 2014, 14:51:39 PM
Is he talking about me?
No, but don"t forget what Oscar Widle said Paulie.
BTW +1 on the 10k stack for the Razz. Razz is also played by grumpy young men since only 34 :o
Oh, I agree! I"m registered and I"m 34 too ::)
Post by: IrishTom on April 14, 2014, 15:05:07 PM
I think it has been asked before but I haven"t seen an answer. What time are we roughly expecting the main event to end. I don"t mean exact but are we talking 11PM-Midnight or 3-4AM?
BTW +1 on the 10k stack for the Razz. Razz is also played by grumpy young men since only 34 :o
I"m "sort of" in disagreement with Aspers on this - they think play 13/14 levels - I would prefer to play 15/16 and ensure we "get ahead of the game" for going into Day 2 - especially as we could very well sell out and have 200 runners per day (plus Alternates) - but I recognise this is a lot of play (16 levels = 12 hours play plus breaks) - so for now, I would have to advise (and will be advertising in advance) that we will play 16 levels - and then we can "walk back" on that on the day if desired (so potentially 2am).
(actually we reduced the clock from 45 min to 40 mins so not 12 hours play - more 10.5 ish - so potentially midnight with 16 levels and breaks).
(aware I haven"t got the APAT experience as a lot of you - but I do remember S7 Scottish NAPC and how long that went on for on Day 2 with 130 runners - so, as said, I"d prefer to get ahead of the game and not have Day 2 run into the early hours - which is the final day of the WCOAP on the Bank Holiday Easter Monday - with this I"m estimating that both Heads Up and ME Day 2 will both complete around 22:00 on Monday).
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 14, 2014, 16:01:29 PM
Later finish on Saturday rather than Sunday would be best imho; so many more positives this way round
Post by: redsimon on April 14, 2014, 16:08:12 PM
I spoke with Aspers about the 6k yesterday and for some reason they wanted to stick with 6k - I"ll discuss again tonight.
I think it"s because Razz is generally played by Grumpy Old men and a 10k starting stack would see the event last many days!!
Certainly the three previous posters on this subject would back up that notion ;)
Could be the 8pm start that leads to shorter stack etc?
Post by: NPenfold on April 14, 2014, 16:25:09 PM
I think it has been asked before but I haven"t seen an answer. What time are we roughly expecting the main event to end. I don"t mean exact but are we talking 11PM-Midnight or 3-4AM?
BTW +1 on the 10k stack for the Razz. Razz is also played by grumpy young men since only 34 :o
I"m "sort of" in disagreement with Aspers on this - they think play 13/14 levels - I would prefer to play 15/16 and ensure we "get ahead of the game" for going into Day 2 - especially as we could very well sell out and have 200 runners per day (plus Alternates) - but I recognise this is a lot of play (16 levels = 12 hours play plus breaks) - so for now, I would have to advise (and will be advertising in advance) that we will play 16 levels - and then we can "walk back" on that on the day if desired (so potentially 2am).
(actually we reduced the clock from 45 min to 40 mins so not 12 hours play - more 10.5 ish - so potentially midnight with 16 levels and breaks).
(aware I haven"t got the APAT experience as a lot of you - but I do remember S7 Scottish NAPC and how long that went on for on Day 2 with 130 runners - so, as said, I"d prefer to get ahead of the game and not have Day 2 run into the early hours - which is the final day of the WCOAP on the Bank Holiday Easter Monday - with this I"m estimating that both Heads Up and ME Day 2 will both complete around 22:00 on Monday).
Brilliant thanks. Means I don"t have to worry about booking Tuesday morning off as a precaution. Obviously I am now going to be out before dinner on day 1 after asking the question.
Post by: Paulie_D on April 14, 2014, 16:51:00 PM
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we reduced the clock from 45 min to 40 mins
HERESY!
Post by: marcus6 on April 14, 2014, 16:51:22 PM
I think it has been asked before but I haven"t seen an answer. What time are we roughly expecting the main event to end. I don"t mean exact but are we talking 11PM-Midnight or 3-4AM?
BTW +1 on the 10k stack for the Razz. Razz is also played by grumpy young men since only 34 :o
I"m "sort of" in disagreement with Aspers on this - they think play 13/14 levels - I would prefer to play 15/16 and ensure we "get ahead of the game" for going into Day 2 - especially as we could very well sell out and have 200 runners per day (plus Alternates) - but I recognise this is a lot of play (16 levels = 12 hours play plus breaks) - so for now, I would have to advise (and will be advertising in advance) that we will play 16 levels - and then we can "walk back" on that on the day if desired (so potentially 2am).
(actually we reduced the clock from 45 min to 40 mins so not 12 hours play - more 10.5 ish - so potentially midnight with 16 levels and breaks).
(aware I haven"t got the APAT experience as a lot of you - but I do remember S7 Scottish NAPC and how long that went on for on Day 2 with 130 runners - so, as said, I"d prefer to get ahead of the game and not have Day 2 run into the early hours - which is the final day of the WCOAP on the Bank Holiday Easter Monday - with this I"m estimating that both Heads Up and ME Day 2 will both complete around 22:00 on Monday).
Looks like I will be sleeping In the train station then! As I dont think there will be a train back to gravesend at that time the ME day 1 end, 16 levels does seem alot to play in one day.... why dont play 14 level or 50 players? And stop once it hits one of them?
Apart from that I can not wait for the fist comp tomorrow! See you there guys.
Post by: KarmaDope on April 14, 2014, 17:12:02 PM
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we reduced the clock from 45 min to 40 mins
HERESY!
Man has a point here.
I also noticed that some of the blind levels have changed compared to the Structure on the main APAT site. As this is the flag bearer APAT event of the week, surely this shouldn"t have happened?
Not to be a cynic or anything, but it appears that Aspers have changed the blind structure solely so they can chip up earlier - which WILL affect play in the later stages despite what people think.
Sorry if the staff feel this is out of order, but APAT chopped and changed structures for many seasons (remember the ante-less structure at the start, Paulie?) and after carefully listening to customer feedback many times, and many trials, the structure we have now is just about perfect. Everybody seems happy, the game moves quickly enough, and at a few APATs I have noticed that Day 1 is finishing earlier than originally planned! Day 2 is also finishing at a decent time as well, so adding an extra 5k onto stacks shouldn"t be that much of a deterrent, definitely not enough to make late stage antes bigger and take 5 mins off the clock every level.
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on April 14, 2014, 17:32:38 PM
Is he talking about me?
No, but don"t forget what Oscar Widle said Paulie.
BTW +1 on the 10k stack for the Razz. Razz is also played by grumpy young men since only 34 :o
Oh, I agree! I"m registered and I"m 34 too ::)
34 must be the new razz a tazz age..... I am playing and 34 this year too
Post by: fandango on April 14, 2014, 17:42:14 PM
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we reduced the clock from 45 min to 40 mins
HERESY!
Just had to Google what this means ^^^^ still none the wiser ;D
20k 40-45 min levels .. Think I prob opt for 20k option I can"t see losing an hour or so every 12 levels is going to make a huge difference
Post by: fandango on April 14, 2014, 17:54:09 PM
Post by: marcus6 on April 14, 2014, 18:19:13 PM
I have my name down for day 1a of the ME, is there anyway i can swap it for day 1b please, or should i just wait until tomorrow when i"m there for event 1# and then talk to someone about swapping the days round?
Thanks
Post by: chrish1976 on April 14, 2014, 18:27:32 PM
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 14, 2014, 19:31:12 PM
I spoke with Aspers about the 6k yesterday and for some reason they wanted to stick with 6k - I"ll discuss again tonight.
I think it"s because Razz is generally played by Grumpy Old men and a 10k starting stack would see the event last many days!!
Certainly the three previous posters on this subject would back up that notion ;)
Have you been talking to my missus? The irony is that the Razz looks to be the only one at capacity so far. Either there"s a lot of grumpy old men or we"re all pessimists who know we can easily achieve the worst hand when we play.
In all honesty it looks to be a magnificent festival, bigger starting stacks hopefully meaning more play (for me anyway), very good structures and terrific people to play and socialise with. Oh, and fairly local too. And the solution for the 2nd/3rd events at the same time, I don"t think we could have asked for a better one.
Finally, how casual is smart casual? I see jeans mentioned but where are we on trainers/hoodies/shorts? I"m asking for everyone else obv, I have to work till 11 tomorrow so I"ll prob be there in suit and tie.
Post by: MintTrav on April 14, 2014, 19:50:16 PM
Is he talking about me?
No, but don"t forget what Oscar Widle said Paulie.
BTW +1 on the 10k stack for the Razz. Razz is also played by grumpy young men since only 34 :o
Oh, I agree! I"m registered and I"m 34 too ::)
34 must be the new razz a tazz age..... I am playing and 34 this year too
That"s incredible. I"m playing the Razz tournament and I"m 34 too.
Post by: MintTrav on April 14, 2014, 20:06:02 PM
I spoke with Aspers about the 6k yesterday and for some reason they wanted to stick with 6k - I"ll discuss again tonight.
I think it"s because Razz is generally played by Grumpy Old men and a 10k starting stack would see the event last many days!!
Certainly the three previous posters on this subject would back up that notion ;)
Could be the 8pm start that leads to shorter stack etc?
I expect it"s that - 8pm v 6pm start, plus the other events. There"s nothing else on Tuesday except the 120-runner event starting at 2pm, whereas on Friday there"s the 6-max with 160 runners starting at 4pm and the team event going on at the same time.
Actually, I was hoping that the Stud could be reduced to 6k. ::)
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 14, 2014, 23:01:46 PM
Finally, how casual is smart casual? I see jeans mentioned but where are we on trainers/hoodies/shorts? I"m asking for everyone else obv, I have to work till 11 tomorrow so I"ll prob be there in suit and tie.
Last month I wore jeans, smarts shoes, plain t-shirt/hoody and that was fine. Mate of mine had jeans, polo-type t-shirt and new work boots which were steel toecapped and couldn"t be worn via the front door (security guard wouldn"t let us pass) but we went in the back door (outside there is a lift which takes you to right inside the casino - feels strange walking in that way as it"s not like a proper entrance) and security there let us in no probs!
I know that doesn"t fully answer your question but might help somewhat. If in doubt, go there early and ask the guy on the door (bottom of the escalator, not at a door as such) as he"ll be one that lets you in or not.
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 15, 2014, 09:57:03 AM
Finally, how casual is smart casual? I see jeans mentioned but where are we on trainers/hoodies/shorts? I"m asking for everyone else obv, I have to work till 11 tomorrow so I"ll prob be there in suit and tie.
Last month I wore jeans, smarts shoes, plain t-shirt/hoody and that was fine. Mate of mine had jeans, polo-type t-shirt and new work boots which were steel toecapped and couldn"t be worn via the front door (security guard wouldn"t let us pass) but we went in the back door (outside there is a lift which takes you to right inside the casino - feels strange walking in that way as it"s not like a proper entrance) and security there let us in no probs!
I know that doesn"t fully answer your question but might help somewhat. If in doubt, go there early and ask the guy on the door (bottom of the escalator, not at a door as such) as he"ll be one that lets you in or not.
Thanks Chris, I can see it"ll resemble a fashion show, walking up and down in different outfits till I find one that works. First attempt, the Inbetweeners Speedos...... :o
Post by: Dawnie on April 15, 2014, 10:28:29 AM
only thing for certain is no ripped jeans and no caps walking through the casino floor, the other day I saw someone in shorts and flip flops and no idea how they got through security
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 15, 2014, 12:37:06 PM
Post by: Jon MW on April 15, 2014, 12:45:51 PM
Oh yeah, that"s right. My mate was told to take his pokerstars flat cap off even though I saw people in there with way more volume of hair than his hat ever was!
Only in the casino part I assume?
Most casino"s let you wear a hat in the poker room
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 15, 2014, 13:00:37 PM
Post by: Ant1966 on April 15, 2014, 13:01:45 PM
I have just realised that I have no photo I.D but was a member at aspers casino in Newcastle does that mean I am also a member of all aspers casino.
If you are a member at Aspers Newcastle your membership card is good for
Aspers Stratford.
Post by: Dawnie on April 15, 2014, 13:39:02 PM
Oh yeah, that"s right. My mate was told to take his pokerstars flat cap off even though I saw people in there with way more volume of hair than his hat ever was!
Only in the casino part I assume?
Most casino"s let you wear a hat in the poker room
Yep you can wear your cap at the poker tables no prob
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 15, 2014, 13:57:22 PM
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 15, 2014, 14:24:57 PM
Post by: Sugar_Free on April 15, 2014, 14:45:46 PM
I see theres only 120ish registered for day 1a and less for 1 b if the numbers are well below the 200 each day max will u finish earlier on day 1a and 1b little bit worried tht wont get in banb after 2ocok lol
iPads are fine, as it seems are trainers hoodies and caps
Post by: Claypole on April 15, 2014, 16:58:42 PM
Was thinking of playing tomororw however have missed the pew reg thingy and it"s a drive to Aspers.
Is there a cap of 60 or have I read that wrong? And if so is it a sell out.
Thanks in advance.
Post by: redkitebbp on April 15, 2014, 17:48:16 PM
Post by: Dawnie on April 15, 2014, 17:55:41 PM
What you cannot do is fall asleep ;D they don"t like that one bit :D
aww poor adam, he will never ever live that one down lol
Post by: LombBomb on April 15, 2014, 18:02:35 PM
Finally, how casual is smart casual? I see jeans mentioned but where are we on trainers/hoodies/shorts? I"m asking for everyone else obv, I have to work till 11 tomorrow so I"ll prob be there in suit and tie.
Last month I wore jeans, smarts shoes, plain t-shirt/hoody and that was fine. Mate of mine had jeans, polo-type t-shirt and new work boots which were steel toecapped and couldn"t be worn via the front door (security guard wouldn"t let us pass) but we went in the back door (outside there is a lift which takes you to right inside the casino - feels strange walking in that way as it"s not like a proper entrance) and security there let us in no probs!
I know that doesn"t fully answer your question but might help somewhat. If in doubt, go there early and ask the guy on the door (bottom of the escalator, not at a door as such) as he"ll be one that lets you in or not.
Thanks Chris, I can see it"ll resemble a fashion show, walking up and down in different outfits till I find one that works. First attempt, the Inbetweeners Speedos...... :o
Kilts better be ok :D
Post by: BillySollocks on April 15, 2014, 18:55:21 PM
Post by: Dawnie on April 15, 2014, 19:05:07 PM
Is there any significance to the capitalisation of some names in the entry lists?
yep means we are bigger fish :) in all seriousness I wonder if its how we joined up on APAT and maybe that"s why
Post by: IrishTom on April 15, 2014, 19:20:31 PM
Is there any significance to the capitalisation of some names in the entry lists?
No - that"s just a simple transfer via spreadsheet from either Coral or Eventbrite - so, exactly how you name appears on "that" system.
Post by: chrish1976 on April 15, 2014, 19:43:27 PM
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 15, 2014, 21:53:56 PM
Hello
Was thinking of playing tomororw however have missed the pew reg thingy and it"s a drive to Aspers.
Is there a cap of 60 or have I read that wrong? And if so is it a sell out.
Thanks in advance.
Hi mate - I believe the cap is 50 and there are 47 registered. You can reserve a seat via the event rite facility for £2 but I don"t know how to do that. Can someone advise?
Post by: mylesfdo on April 15, 2014, 22:09:22 PM
Post by: emmajane81 on April 15, 2014, 22:11:12 PM
Post by: IrishTom on April 15, 2014, 22:30:11 PM
Hi, in the main event when do they stop for the night, i"m in 1b and already paid for the hotel so was just wandering how they decide the cut off, is it after a certain blind or when its down to a certain amount of players?
Hi Emma, afraid I"ve no exact answer for you - I expect it to be somewhere between Level 13 and Level 16 - but it will def be the exact same Level as Day 1a - so you"ll know for def late on Sat night (so around 10pm to midnight best guess at this time).
Post by: Claypole on April 15, 2014, 23:02:18 PM
Hello
Was thinking of playing tomororw however have missed the pew reg thingy and it"s a drive to Aspers.
Is there a cap of 60 or have I read that wrong? And if so is it a sell out.
Thanks in advance.
Hi mate - I believe the cap is 50 and there are 47 registered. You can reserve a seat via the event rite facility for £2 but I don"t know how to do that. Can someone advise?
The system closed at 1 today I had a look JP. In a turmnpil really want to play thi however its a long treck to not got get a seat. Is there definately a cap? Does the cap include alternates? If anyone can help would be great.
Hi Shaun, the caps don"t include Alternates - High Roller is about to start in 20 mins and def seats available at this time - Mixed tonight is very different as 49/50 currently bought-in/reserved - I"d be hopeful we can extend both events if needed - very hopeful - but unfortunately that decision can"t be confirmed by the casino until the time.
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 16, 2014, 09:36:27 AM
As far as I know there is definitely a cap but the cap won"t include alternates. Observing them yesterday they increased the cap. I believe this is dealer dependent and assume that runners in the earlier comp may effect this.
I would advise sending a PM to Tom Brady (IrishTom)
Post by: IrishTom on April 16, 2014, 11:47:39 AM
Currently I"d be very hopeful of anyone getting a seat in the High Roller (starts in 15 mins) and although at 49/50 for tonight"s Mixed Game - I"d be hopeful of that being extended to maybe 60 - HOWEVER - that is all dependant on casino dealers at the time (and number of players out of HR etc) - cap is 50 which does not include Alternates which will be allowed for 1.5 hours.
Post by: CincinnatiKid on April 16, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
Post by: discomfort on April 16, 2014, 18:02:28 PM
Post by: Matt D on April 16, 2014, 19:29:39 PM
In the coral client under APAT, I can"t see any tournaments other than a £5 tavern event. is this just me?
The holding tanks closed on the 31st March, so we could get the money to Aspers. You can still reserve seats via our EventBrite system (click the "Reserve from £2" button below), up to midday the day before each event, or you can buy-in direct at Aspers - space permitting.
Post by: AMRN on April 17, 2014, 08:42:14 AM
Post by: dwh103 on April 17, 2014, 08:45:49 AM
Guys, is there public WiFi available in the casino or cardroom please?
There is :)
Post by: AMRN on April 17, 2014, 08:46:26 AM
Guys, is there public WiFi available in the casino or cardroom please?
There is :)
Thanks
Post by: Paulie_D on April 17, 2014, 14:24:53 PM
The WCOAP now has added awesomeness.
Post by: EvilomenLT on April 17, 2014, 18:35:21 PM
Post by: cashman on April 17, 2014, 22:12:16 PM
when day B of main event stars? thanks
12pm
Post by: BillySollocks on April 19, 2014, 17:44:43 PM
I just wanted to thank both the APAT and Aspers organisers for the excellent and well run events.
It was great to see and chat to players both on and off the table who prefer non Holdem games.
Please continue to run these events and if possible keep them on consecutive days in the future - I will be back!!!
All the players were friendly and chatty at the table and all the action was played out in the best possible spirit.
Thanks again.
Post by: GJSZ on April 19, 2014, 21:40:35 PM
Post by: Matt D on April 19, 2014, 23:00:09 PM
Can I still register to this event? I do not mind buying in online or at the casino before the event begins..
Yes, we"ve still seats available for tomorrow. The game starts at midday with 3 hours late reg. I"d recommend registering from 11am onwards.
Post by: steveinhants on April 20, 2014, 09:23:34 AM
Steve.
Post by: Matt D on April 20, 2014, 09:34:10 AM
Can eliminated players from day 1a re-register for day 1b?
Steve.
Hi Steve, sorry they cannot.
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 20, 2014, 11:03:31 AM
Post by: vulcan107 on April 20, 2014, 11:27:04 AM
Post by: jayteejack on April 20, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
Little bit of information. Although the dress code on here says smart casual that does Nt include new open hem joggers...... just been turned away from casino luckily I"ve been an optimist and booked a b and b for tonight 10 mins away and packed a spare set of clothes in case I made it to day 2 lol. Good luck to everyone in main event
Not even I think open hem joggers are smart casual(even new). Go get changed ;D
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 20, 2014, 22:21:57 PM
Post by: suzanne on April 21, 2014, 07:10:46 AM
Can eliminated players from day 1a re-register for day 1b?
Steve.
I was told they could when someone on my table asked and the dealer confirmed. Would be interesting to know if there were any re-entries?
Post by: Paulie_D on April 21, 2014, 07:59:54 AM
Can eliminated players from day 1a re-register for day 1b?
Steve.
I was told they could when someone on my table asked and the dealer confirmed. Would be interesting to know if there were any re-entries?
No re-entries were allowed and none were ever planned.
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on April 21, 2014, 09:55:58 AM
Post by: Des on April 21, 2014, 12:39:58 PM
Can eliminated players from day 1a re-register for day 1b?
Steve.
I was told they could when someone on my table asked and the dealer confirmed. Would be interesting to know if there were any re-entries?
Two players were found to have re-entered and were disqualified. Obviously a mistake from the casino but both players knew the event was a freezeout so took their disqualification in the right spirit.
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 21, 2014, 12:47:43 PM
Had good day at main event although I"m now out cause someone called 32k bet pre flop with a q off against my ak suited to hit q on Turn Tht sGould of been day 2 guaranteed oh well there"s always the heads up tomorrow plus missus is still in main event
IM steaming. The guy who took my chips in 1b yesterday has been refused his seat in day 2 BECAUSE HE PLAYED DAY 1A AND 1B AND WHEN I JUST SPOKE TO HIM HE SAID HE THOUGHT U WAS ALLOWED AND THAT HE WAS TALKING TO OUR FIRST DEALER (integer own language} she knew he played day before. WHICH DOES BRING ME ON TO WHAT WAS MY ONLY CRITICISM OF THE EXPERIANCE TO MANY DEALERS SPEAKING IN OWN LANGUAGE TO PLAYERS. I know I should of complained but it was my first live apat event and didn"t wanted annoy collateral who as it turns outsourcing of been allowed play
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 21, 2014, 13:18:54 PM
Can eliminated players from day 1a re-register for day 1b?
Steve.
Hi Steve, sorry they cannot.
But unfortunately 2 did one of hem taking me chips
Post by: Des on April 21, 2014, 14:03:16 PM
Can eliminated players from day 1a re-register for day 1b?
Steve.
Hi Steve, sorry they cannot.
But unfortunately 2 did one of hem taking me chips
A regrettable situation, so apologies for your experience from APAT Aaron. In seven years of running APAT we"ve never had this situation occur before and it goes without saying that we"re pretty upset about this right now. It has put a blot (this and some dealer shortages in the Team event) on what was an otherwise very well ran event by the Aspers Stratford team.
I hope it doesn"t put you off playing in future APAT events.
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 21, 2014, 16:12:20 PM
Post by: Des on April 21, 2014, 16:21:37 PM
Even more annoying is Tht apat gave him his 110 quid back ...... I understand mistakes happen but this would of been avoided if all dealers didn"t speak in foreign language to players as dealers were talking ABT his bad beat the day beforeif it had been in English we would of known he"d played 1a. Hurts even more Tht he never played a hand after getting lucky against me sat there folded every hand to make it to day 2
APAT didn"t give him his money back Aaron, the venue did, and at the same time they ensured the money from both players was also retained in the prize pool. Agree with you completely that all discussion at the table should be in English and I"ve shared that feedback with the Aspers Head of Poker.
Post by: STRETCHY74 on April 21, 2014, 17:21:38 PM
Post by: Dawnie on April 21, 2014, 18:56:11 PM
Hopefully see you all again soon and once again thanks
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on April 21, 2014, 19:35:53 PM
On a lighter note on a similar issue, I got a warning that it was "English Only" at the table when talking to Bruno Rilho
Great Series!
Post by: Big Club on April 21, 2014, 19:41:31 PM
Post by: AMRN on April 21, 2014, 19:51:38 PM
Gutted that didn"t do better in the PLO8, but loved having the opportunity to play it live. Please can we do it again (soooon)?
Something for future APAT weekends - the APAT private cash table on Sunday night was awesome, and I hope we can repeat it in future.
Post by: PokerRoyalFlush9 on April 21, 2014, 21:16:22 PM
Post by: mporter123 on April 22, 2014, 10:48:18 AM
Post by: AMRN on April 22, 2014, 11:11:30 AM
Post by: Paulie_D on April 22, 2014, 11:45:33 AM
Post by: s4ooter on April 22, 2014, 13:12:27 PM
Post by: HERBIEHACKIT on April 22, 2014, 15:37:01 PM
Post by: Hammerite on April 22, 2014, 15:53:58 PM
Congratulations to all at Apat for their sterling work during the season, and best of luck to all Apaters competing at other events taking place between seasons.
Post by: Matt D on April 22, 2014, 18:55:11 PM
Post by: Joker161 on April 22, 2014, 21:59:30 PM
I have to agree with the positive feedback above from Mark, I thought the festival was excellent, and hopefully anyone put off from coming, by the scaremongering with regards to personal security in the area, will now attend, should the tour visit here again in the future. I trust I am not speaking out of turn, but I don"t know of anyone who came to any harm.
Congratulations to all at Apat for their sterling work during the season, and best of luck to all Apaters competing at other events taking place between seasons.
^^^^This
I was staying at the IBIS, and I was slightly apprehensive about the walk back each night. Nothing to worry about in the end. All good, and never felt unsafe.
Great venue. Such a lot of room, and the staff were great (and started at 12 noon!).
Excellent work from JP, by the way. Very well deserved!
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 23, 2014, 02:18:10 AM
Post by: MCTachyon on April 23, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
I finished 3rd in the 6-max and had my picture taken with medal and also noticed the camera man take a few of my tables in the Main Event 1a and the PLO championships.
Ta,
Post by: Mattiek1 on April 23, 2014, 10:16:38 AM
Had a great time at Aspers! I won the 6max and was wondering when the 150Eur Sunday Seat will be credited to my Coral account - in time for this Sunday?
Also, the mislaid 6max bracelet, any idea when this will be sent to me in the post?
Big fan of APAT, been to the last 3 in Notts DTD, Cardiff and now Stratford - looking forward to the next one!
Cheers,
Matt
Post by: MCTachyon on April 23, 2014, 11:53:19 AM
Hi,
Had a great time at Aspers! I won the 6max and was wondering when the 150Eur Sunday Seat will be credited to my Coral account - in time for this Sunday?
Also, the mislaid 6max bracelet, any idea when this will be sent to me in the post?
Big fan of APAT, been to the last 3 in Notts DTD, Cardiff and now Stratford - looking forward to the next one!
Cheers,
Matt
Mate, its Ryan who finished 3rd in the 6 max.
Congrats again on the win, hope to see you again at the next APAT event.
All the best mate.
Post by: LombBomb on April 23, 2014, 12:54:56 PM
Will there be a pictures thread for the championships?
I finished 3rd in the 6-max and had my picture taken with medal and also noticed the camera man take a few of my tables in the Main Event 1a and the PLO championships.
Ta,
Well done Ryan. You should be able to find most of the pictures here;
https://picasaweb.google.com/www.apat.com
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 23, 2014, 18:20:05 PM
Well done Ryan. You should be able to find most of the pictures here;
https://picasaweb.google.com/www.apat.com
Sweet. I"m sure I saw some Shootout FT pics somewhere on the forums but don"t see them in that gallery.
Post by: suzanne on April 24, 2014, 01:06:26 AM
I have to agree with the positive feedback above from Mark, I thought the festival was excellent, and hopefully anyone put off from coming, by the scaremongering with regards to personal security in the area, will now attend, should the tour visit here again in the future. I trust I am not speaking out of turn, but I don"t know of anyone who came to any harm.
Congratulations to all at Apat for their sterling work during the season, and best of luck to all Apaters competing at other events taking place between seasons.
^^^^This
I was staying at the IBIS, and I was slightly apprehensive about the walk back each night. Nothing to worry about in the end. All good, and never felt unsafe.
Great venue. Such a lot of room, and the staff were great (and started at 12 noon!).
Excellent work from JP, by the way. Very well deserved!
I was staying at the Premier Inn and although I choose this hotel for proximity and safeness I somehow lost my way after being shown out through a side door at 3am...it took me over an hour to find my destination and not a mugger in sight to ask directions :D
Post by: suzanne on April 24, 2014, 01:10:27 AM
Post by: Matt D on April 24, 2014, 01:43:07 AM
BTW was I the only one to notice Mo from Eastenders was there that night? We also bumped into each other (literally) in the lift the following morning but she didnt look like she was in the mood for a selfie.
I didn"t see her, but I did see Tom Daley and friends sat outside the casino drinking coffee (just before 11am Monday). Did anyone else spot him?
Post by: MintTrav on April 24, 2014, 03:57:42 AM
You may have been okay on your particular journey, and you will be most times, but it is an extremely dangerous area.
Post by: Jon MW on April 24, 2014, 06:14:33 AM
All these people posting about how safe it is around there are deluding themselves. I took a bus one night and a group of about five came on who were being pursued by another group of about ten. The second group were like a pack of animals outside. They managed to get the middle door open and made a series of runs onto the bus to attack the first lot. One or two of the first group also made occasional ill-advised attempts to get outside. This went on for at least ten minutes, which seemed much longer at the time. I have no idea why the driver didn"t drive off, as some people were shouting for him to do, but he didn"t, perhaps because there had been some damage to the bus, so the attacks just continued until the police arrived.
You may have been okay on your particular journey, and you will be most times, but it is an extremely dangerous area.
Actually that kind of demonstrates why the crime figures for the area are skewed at a higher average than other areas.
A significant proportion of the violent crime in Stratford is gang on gang - when I was there, I saw in the Standard about court proceedings regarding a massive fight in Westfield; but it involved one group against another - like this instance. If you"re not local, you"re not particularly likely to get caught up in it (unless you"re particularly unlucky).
The fact that Chris Austin said he "almost" had trouble, and that the incident you saw was trouble - but ultimately was dealt with successfully by the police (and that not much else was observed by a couple of hundred people at the WCOAP) could be an illustration of why the perception of how dangerous the area is doesn"t really match up to the reality of how likely it is that something could actually happen to you there.
Like I said before - it is comparatively more dangerous in Stratford than a lot of other areas, but the objective level of risk is still low there.
Post by: cashman on April 24, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
BTW was I the only one to notice Mo from Eastenders was there that night? We also bumped into each other (literally) in the lift the following morning but she didnt look like she was in the mood for a selfie.
I was wondering if that was her i thought it was someone who looked like her.
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 24, 2014, 16:13:37 PM
I was wondering if that was her i thought it was someone who looked like her.
When they"re in casual clothes and not wearing their usual make-up, they do just have the appearance of a look-a-likey! I"ve had that problem before but if you hear them speak it often gives it away. That happened when I was walking around South Kensington once and I started hearing Steve Wright"s voice coming towards me! I think Mo puts on the London accent though.
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 25, 2014, 01:32:19 AM
I"m just curious though, as I can"t really fault the tournament and dealing staff at Aspers. I thought they did a great job. Some of them might need a little extra training here and there or to speak a little more loudly but that"s all. Our HORSE dealer was brilliant and followed the games very well. I think he was one of John the TD"s disciples - he mentioned something about an assessment for dealing on the EPT.
Post by: Matt D on April 25, 2014, 13:54:09 PM
Well done Ryan. You should be able to find most of the pictures here;
https://picasaweb.google.com/www.apat.com
Sweet. I"m sure I saw some Shootout FT pics somewhere on the forums but don"t see them in that gallery.
Try this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/www.apat.com/WCOAP20148Shootout
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 25, 2014, 15:26:39 PM
Post by: Matt D on April 25, 2014, 15:32:36 PM
"Sorry, that page was not found."
Try again now (I"ve just changed the privacy settings).
Post by: Chris_Austin on April 29, 2014, 14:43:32 PM
Post by: Mattiek1 on May 01, 2014, 13:43:05 PM
Hi,
Had a great time at Aspers! I won the 6max and was wondering when the 150Eur Sunday Seat will be credited to my Coral account - in time for this Sunday?
Also, the mislaid 6max bracelet, any idea when this will be sent to me in the post?
Big fan of APAT, been to the last 3 in Notts DTD, Cardiff and now Stratford - looking forward to the next one!
Cheers,
Matt
Mate, its Ryan who finished 3rd in the 6 max.
Congrats again on the win, hope to see you again at the next APAT event.
All the best mate.
Congrats to you too mate, it was a fun game - anyones to win when it got to 25/50k.
See you at the next WCOAP 6max final table!
Post by: Matt D on May 10, 2014, 23:34:40 PM
Post by: Sugar_Free on May 11, 2014, 09:41:38 AM
Quick update: 6-max and Razz bracelets are now en-route to the winners.
And online?
Post by: IrishTom on May 11, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Quick update: 6-max and Razz bracelets are now en-route to the winners.
And online?
Matt I arrange for it to be sent tomorrow along with Gold, Silver and Bronze online medals - I have your (1st) and Adam Phelan (3rd) address -
but if Colin McCrane (2nd) could please confirm his address by PM to me (or if anyone has an email/mobile number for him could you please point him in this direction thank you)
Post by: Sugar_Free on May 12, 2014, 16:55:51 PM
Quick update: 6-max and Razz bracelets are now en-route to the winners.
And online?
Matt I arrange for it to be sent tomorrow along with Gold, Silver and Bronze online medals - I have your (1st) and Adam Phelan (3rd) address -
but if Colin McCrane (2nd) could please confirm his address by PM to me (or if anyone has an email/mobile number for him could you please point him in this direction thank you)
Thanks Tom, I"ve FB messaged Colin.