| Date/Time | Event | |||
| 17 Apr 14:00 | WCOAP #6.1 World Amateur Team Championship NLHE STT (4 members) | |||
| 17 Apr 20:00 | WCOAP #6.2.1 World Amateur Team Championship NLHE STT (2 members) | |||
| 17 Apr 20:00 | WCOAP #6.2.2 World Amateur Team Championship PLO STT (2 members) | |||
| 17 Apr 21:00 | WCOAP #6.3 World Amateur Team Championship HU (4 members 1 game each "on demand") | |||
| 18 Apr 13:00 | WCOAP #6.4.1 World Amateur Team Championship NLHE STT (2 members) | |||
| 18 Apr 13:00 | WCOAP #6.4.2 World Amateur Team Championship PLO8 STT (2 members) | |||
| 18 Apr 19:00 | WCOAP #6.5 World Amateur Team Championship NLHE MTT (4 members) |
The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.
The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.
The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.
It"s only my opinion, but I suspect that this may lead to the self-exclusion of many APATers who might otherwise have applied to play for their country. There are so few people who play it regularly, and more importantly play it to a good standard, that team selection may well become a process of elimination.
The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.
It"s only my opinion, but I suspect that this may lead to the self-exclusion of many APATers who might otherwise have applied to play for their country. There are so few people who play it regularly, and more importantly play it to a good standard, that team selection may well become a process of elimination.
I think you may be underestimating your average Apat player here Ian, a decent understanding of holdem will easily transition to a competent PL08 game imho.
The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.
Even more gutted now ;)
The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.
Even more gutted now ;)
The main change from ECOAP is the replacement of the "2nd" NLHE STT with a PLO 08 STT.
Even more gutted now ;)
+ alot!!!
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.
So each phase would be scheduled as
4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)
This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.
This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element. (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter). I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play". I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.
#justsayin ;D
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.
So each phase would be scheduled as
4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)
This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.
This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element. (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter). I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play". I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.
#justsayin ;D
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.
So each phase would be scheduled as
4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)
This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.
This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element. (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter). I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play". I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.
#justsayin ;D
See what you are saying Leigh but to me a PLO hi/lo game is a great inclusion
About time APAT brought the game in , OK maybe for the team event a bit of a shock but I would like to see this included a lot more on APAT events and I"m sure other APAT"ers would agree also with other games like stud etc
well done !!
I would have liked to have seen the three Sit n Go phases to have combined all three variants.
So each phase would be scheduled as
4 x 8 handed NLHE (2 players from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO (1 player from each team)
2 x 8 handed PLO H/L (1 player from each team)
This would allow the captain the opportunity to make strategic decisions not only on team selection (do you pick a specialist who then also has to play a NLHE HU and MTT or go for more multi-skilled players), but also on the day of each phase.
This would also remove the fact that players will be put off by the PLO H/L element. (I hear what you are saying Brendan, but I would add that there are plenty of really good APAT players who have never played PLO H/L, or perhaps even PLO for that matter). I would certainly not want to represent my country if, for example, Limit Stud was included as a "must play". I would be too worried about letting the others down as I don"t play that variant, let alone to a standard for this competition.
#justsayin ;D
See what you are saying Leigh but to me a PLO hi/lo game is a great inclusion
About time APAT brought the game in , OK maybe for the team event a bit of a shock but I would like to see this included a lot more on APAT events and I"m sure other APAT"ers would agree also with other games like stud etc
well done !!
Gary, you might have missed my point. I agree with you, it"s a great inclusion, but using the structure I have suggested means no one is put off from trying to get to play for their country.
Unless of course the view is that there"s only a small bunch of players in contention for their country and it"s assumed that they all know their stuff.
I wonder how many of the top players in the rankings over the years would say that they were competent at PLO8 ?
Let"s include it, but not at a cost of putting players off.
And regarding the HU: do other people also think that 4 points is a bit too much maybe? Because the score is either 4-0 or 0-4.. which means there"s a 4-point difference between winning and losing!
And regarding the HU: do other people also think that 4 points is a bit too much maybe? Because the score is either 4-0 or 0-4.. which means there"s a 4-point difference between winning and losing!
FYP
Or this:
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.1.1 NLHE STT (2 members)
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.2.1 PLO STT (1 member)
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.3.1 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.4 HU matches (4 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.1.2 NLHE STT (2 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.2.2 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.3.3 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.5 NLHE MTT (4 members)
Or this:
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.1.1 NLHE STT (2 members)
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.2.1 PLO STT (1 member)
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.3.1 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.4 HU matches (4 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.1.2 NLHE STT (2 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.2.2 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.3.3 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.5 NLHE MTT (4 members)
I think that works well
Or this:
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.1.1 NLHE STT (2 members)
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.2.1 PLO STT (1 member)
17 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.3.1 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.4 HU matches (4 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.1.2 NLHE STT (2 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.2.2 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.3.3 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.5 NLHE MTT (4 members)
I think that works well
Not sure about the long term viability of this format, its basically a 50% NLH 50% omaha event. When you consider that representing in these events is the pinnacle for most members in our predominantly NLH association.
I do realise that I somewhat contradict my earlier post on the subject but feel this changed format is somewhat likely to raise the real and perceived competency level given it"s likely impact on the Team selection process.
Added to the already limited player availability faced by the smaller represented Nations, this could be a short term success with very detrimental long term implications. Not sure how many players we have who would be happy to fill the almost exclusive role of Team PLO player?
I love the idea from personal point of view, just trying to tease out how it might develop long term.
our predominantly NLH association.
but not as much as we are currently asking (all 4 members play each STT)
but not as much as we are currently asking (all 4 members play each STT)
Am I alone in thinking there is a big difference between the current.....
Team of four with combined NLH and Omaha skills?
and the proposed....
Team of four with 2 x NLH specialists and 2 x Omaha specialists?
Will this will impact Team selection strategy?
Will some Teams be disadvantaged?
our predominantly NLH association.
We"re a predominantly POKER association...it"s just that most members haven"t bothered (or don"t care) to learn variants other than NLHE.
IMO this is something APAT should be addressing (more)....there"s an incredible range of poker variants out there that are a darn sight more fun than grinding at NLHE.
I know that he few I have encouraged to play PLO/PLO8, in general, much prefer it to HE.
One of the biggest stumbling blocks to any progress on this has, of course, been the limited talent pool available in the UK casino dealer pool that are actually aware of these variants, let alone know how to deal them or the rules that apply....and we hate to self-deal in APAT...don"t we?
I"ve actually had to teach dealers how 7-card stud is played....Stud Hi/Lo would have been a nightmare. :)
Asking MORE of teams representing their countries is something to be encouraged.
We"re a predominantly POKER association...it"s just that most members haven"t bothered (or don"t care) to learn variants other than NLHE.
Regardless of the team event, I hope that APAT will make more efforts to introduce more variants into the S8 schedule.
A "variant" Main Event isn"t likely I know but perhaps rotate side events (PLO is already there and we"ve tried Stud at Luton).
Or perhaps we take a leaf out of the LPPL playbook and (subject to casino consent) try £10 [self-deal] STT/Shootouts during an APAT weekend.
Regardless of the team event, I hope that APAT will make more efforts to introduce more variants into the S8 schedule.
A "variant" Main Event isn"t likely I know but perhaps rotate side events (PLO is already there and we"ve tried Stud at Luton).
Or perhaps we take a leaf out of the LPPL playbook and (subject to casino consent) try £10 [self-deal] STT/Shootouts during an APAT weekend.
We had a very successful Stud tournament at Newcastle.
Regardless of the team event, I hope that APAT will make more efforts to introduce more variants into the S8 schedule.
A "variant" Main Event isn"t likely I know but perhaps rotate side events (PLO is already there and we"ve tried Stud at Luton).
Or perhaps we take a leaf out of the LPPL playbook and (subject to casino consent) try £10 [self-deal] STT/Shootouts during an APAT weekend.
We had a very successful Stud tournament at Newcastle.
Which is where I had to teach most of the dealers the game.
YVW. :)
but this means all players will only play 2 SNGs instead of 3...
but this means all players will only play 2 SNGs instead of 3...
Yes, 2 SNGs, 1 HU, 1 MTT
but this means all players will only play 2 SNGs instead of 3...
Yes, 2 SNGs, 1 HU, 1 MTT
That"s too bad... in your opening post you mentioned 3 SNGs and now it"s only 2 :"(
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction. However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".
NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)
(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction. However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".
NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)
(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction. However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".
NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)
(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)
Not really interested in travelling and paying a fortune to play parts of an event. I don"t understand why its being changed? As a team we (Scotland) were woeful at the Home Nations in the PLO round, so we went home worked at our game and guess what? We improved and were one of the best in Prague. This is the world TEAM champs, not the Champs of individual specialists clubbing together. Win as a team, fall as a team imho.
IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!
APAT have always aimed to be forward-looking and a driving force behind not only the playing of poker, but the development of both opportunities and experiences - and not wishing to stand still, see the introduction of other variants to our Team Championship events as a step in the right "forward" direction. However, of course we do recognise the problems it may give to Team Captains and we need to ensure that player availability (and skills) is not restricted to the point where it deters teams from entering - therefore "one step at a time" is an approach that may well suit "both sides".
NLHE will always remain the core of our events (some would say!) and PLO has very much become a "main stream event" nowadays (some would say!), and to include PLO 08 into the WCOAP Team Championship, whilst reducing the "risk" to teams/captains, the following schedule would seem sensible:
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.1 NLHE STT (3 members)
17 Apr 14:00 WCOAP #5.2 PLO 08 STT (1 member)
17 Apr "on demand" WCOAP #5.3 HU Matches (4 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.4 NLHE STT (3 members)
18 Apr 12:00 WCOAP #5.5 PLO STT (1 member)
18 Apr 19:00 WCOAP #5.6 NLHE MTT (4 member)
(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)
Not really interested in travelling and paying a fortune to play parts of an event. I don"t understand why its being changed? As a team we (Scotland) were woeful at the Home Nations in the PLO round, so we went home worked at our game and guess what? We improved and were one of the best in Prague. This is the world TEAM champs, not the Champs of individual specialists clubbing together. Win as a team, fall as a team imho.
IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!
Shouldn"t a team event include the best players/specialists, otherwise it does lack some credibility no?
Shouldn"t a team event include the best players/specialists, otherwise it does lack some credibility no?
WCOAP says it all
there"s more than one game in poker and think a world championship should include more , stud/razz etc to name a few
that"s the whole point !!
it will show the winning team has a great variety of player talent
or they were very lucky ;D ;D
Shouldn"t a team event include the best players/specialists, otherwise it does lack some credibility no?
With the greatest respect Chris.
This event has never lacked credibility, quite the opposite and to imply as much falls somewhere between naive and complete nonsense.
There is a lot of small picture thinking and self interest itt imho. I really don"t think the previous introduction of PLO did much to enhance the event over the previous format.
I am fearful that this new development which at face value looks positive in terms of adding some strategic element, may ultimately be problematic for the already struggling smaller teams. Losing some of those teams or diminishing their ability to compete will be counter productive for all.
Shouldn"t a team event include the best players/specialists, otherwise it does lack some credibility no?
With the greatest respect Chris.
This event has never lacked credibility, quite the opposite and to imply as much falls somewhere between naive and complete nonsense.
There is a lot of small picture thinking and self interest itt imho. I really don"t think the previous introduction of PLO did much to enhance the event over the previous format.
I am fearful that this new development which at face value looks positive in terms of adding some strategic element, may ultimately be problematic for the already struggling smaller teams. Losing some of those teams or diminishing their ability to compete will be counter productive for all.
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I think the main point that people are raising Dann is that people want to get value for playing, and they dont think they will get it if the format is changed (see Gimac"s post)
I personally would have agreed to play snap if it was put in, as I just want to play for my country, but I can see both sides of the argument. IF you do go down the route of specialists then surely it is going to narrow the number of people playing for their country. How many people are decent Stud or PLO8 players in APAT?
I think the main point that people are raising Dann is that people want to get value for playing, and they dont think they will get it if the format is changed (see Gimac"s post)
I personally would have agreed to play snap if it was put in, as I just want to play for my country, but I can see both sides of the argument. IF you do go down the route of specialists then surely it is going to narrow the number of people playing for their country. How many people are decent Stud or PLO8 players in APAT?
I think the main point that people are raising Dann is that people want to get value for playing, and they dont think they will get it if the format is changed (see Gimac"s post)
I personally would have agreed to play snap if it was put in, as I just want to play for my country, but I can see both sides of the argument. IF you do go down the route of specialists then surely it is going to narrow the number of people playing for their country. How many people are decent Stud or PLO8 players in APAT?
My point is this introduction helps push growth.....
Giving people a reason to learn a game that they wouldnt normally play, and by doing so it also supports the side events apat run themselves.....
APAT are here to promote the game of poker, all variants, and by implementing this things they give players reasons to play new games.
The numbers at the side events, for Horse, Razz, Stud etc werent brilliant last season, and this is a way to push the issue imo.
NLH is **** anyways :)
I am fully behind the point of players getting value for money, and my suggestion was that it "specialist" round was included:
Something like this:
NLH round (all play)
PLO round (all play)
NLH round (all play)
Specialist round (all play 1 variant)
HU rounds (all play)
MTT (all play)
That way everyone plays:
2x NLH sng
1 x PLO sng
1 x Specilist sng
1 X hu
1 X mtt
6 games for your money, although the HU games should have lammers.....100%
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
Hi des
just a question have teams / captains already been decided for april championship ?????
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
100% agree, so why are the 2 Omaha variants on the same 2 days as the ME day 1"s. Can we please swap the Razz with one of them???
It is not certain of course, but the likelyhood is, is that those wanting to play PLO will want to play PLO8 as well. (have put this here in the hope it gets noticed)
Dont expect Des to respond soon though, he has more important things on his mind today..
Congratulations Des and Sian a baby girl !! :)
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
100% agree, so why are the 2 Omaha variants on the same 2 days as the ME day 1"s. Can we please swap the Razz with one of them???
It is not certain of course, but the likelyhood is, is that those wanting to play PLO will want to play PLO8 as well. (have put this here in the hope it gets noticed)
Hello to all...u may concerne..
For those who dont know me My name IS Bruno Rilho,and for the last 6 years i have been Portugals captain,My team will play this year.....and we have to say we dont like the changes you did......i play poker for quite a long time now and have to be honest we dont play much Omaha in Portugal,( live i mean).... But now PLO8 .....i had to google it because i never heard it......and i have played a lot of tournaments all Europe but mayby it just us...but i think the Team Events you had in past year where really great,why change something that not broken..if you want to change why not stud ...razz...five card draw........Next year i think you should put Chinese poker.....we quite really good at it........joking a side......We really desaprove of the changes PLO8 WHY?????????????
But any way.........just a thought ..........SEE u guys around the Felt......and for those who teams are good in this PLO 8 i guess and with no ofence must be good for Some teams......all the best.....we will just have to fold our hands and wait the somebody bustes before us hehehhehehehhehehhehhe..........GO go go.....
... perhaps Razz or Stud should make up the extra variant for the poker purists rather than PLO8...
....
(start time on 17th moved to 14:00 to allow teams the opportunity to travel AM on 17th)
Could the OP please be updated with the correct start times and game details. It"s confusing people.
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
I have discussed this with Tom and Matt and I can assure you that the event will definitely have five phases to it.
With five phases, country captains will have to allocate their four players in the following way:-
Day One
Phase 1 - NLHE, NLHE, NLHE, NLHE
Phase 2 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO, PLO
Phase 3 - HU
Day Two
Phase 4 - NLHE, NLHE, PLO8, PLO8
Phase 5 - MTT
With over three months to go, captains should be able to ensure they have at least two players in their team who are expert in Omaha and 08.
The Main Event and the World Amateur Team Championship are the two most high profile tournaments of the WCOAP and we think the above format will lead to another superbly competitive event.
Errrrrrrrrrrr, I see the OP has now been updated as requested but it is now showing FOUR phases not FIVE. Could this please be confirmed, as at no point since the quoted post above has it been suggested that there will only be four phases. I didn"t see anybody disapproving of the above clarification.
Getting a tad frustrated with Des saying one thing and Tom saying another.
Thanks for changing the OP. That"s the first time I"ve seen that schedule.
With your original post suggesting four phases, Des later confirming 5 phases and you then posting 4 phases after my request for clarification yesterday I stand by my comment that you and Des were saying different things. As Roy Walker would suggest I can only say what I see.
available for team event. Should be England. Good Omaha/08 player. JJ Hazan
10 will battle for gold then. So be it. :D
Can"t wait untill we arrive on wednesday !!!!
Hi Carey
I"m happy we"re going to play PLO8 or Pot limit Omaha hi/lo is what i know it better as...I"m definitely not an expert and probably play too many hands but I mostly do this tournament for the fun!! I"m not looking for professional poker players who specialise in other variants...I"ve never played either PLO or PLO8 live before so I"m really looking forward to it!!! I usually play NLHE or PLHE but get bored with them so try and play other variants like HOSE, HORSE or 8 game...come on you poker players broaden your horizons....Poker sites have tons of PLO8 (hi/lo) games on it ...get practising I say!! :)
Carey