Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: antnix on July 28, 2008, 12:50:33 PM
Title: Season Three Discussion
Post by: antnix on July 28, 2008, 12:50:33 PM
Has there been any news re season 3"s dates?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on July 28, 2008, 13:37:40 PM
Des and the team have a lot of work going on at the moment sorting out the events for the Worlds, due to take place at the Victoria in London at the end of August.
With that in mind, I suspect that season 3"s schedule will not be finalised until September at the earliest, and more probably October.
Quite a while to wait, I grant you, but it will be worth waiting for. Your best bet is to visit the forum regularly, as soon as info is known it"ll be posted here first. 8)
Ian
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: antnix on August 18, 2008, 23:25:00 PM
Any news yet ppl?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Paulie_D on August 19, 2008, 11:18:19 AM
Ian said it above...slthough I have no doubt Season 3 is on Des" mind, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that we will hear ANYTHING about it until the WCOAP is done and dusted.
Patience, Sir, Patience.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on August 19, 2008, 19:37:40 PM
Any news yet...
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 19, 2008, 20:10:34 PM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on August 20, 2008, 14:31:12 PM
The season finishes with the European Team Championship in early November and I would not expect to be releasing anything on S3 until that is completed. I believe the wait will be worth it as some of the new initiatives look very strong.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Bodddders on August 20, 2008, 14:38:31 PM
Here we go again. Des "the tease" Duffy keeping us hanging on tender hooks.
Go on, give us a clue.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on August 20, 2008, 15:29:25 PM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on August 20, 2008, 15:31:54 PM
lol :D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: tumblet on August 21, 2008, 01:47:41 AM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Santino67 on August 23, 2008, 11:05:47 AM
I can"t wait for London next week let alone Season 3 8)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: allinbob2 on September 01, 2008, 23:34:37 PM
Des,
I bring up this subject quite alot with you. Is there anyway the Irish Players can get a fair crack at the whip next season with Regionals. As you know it has become a very expensive addiction now wanting to get a seat in all the Nationals. As Scouse has already said if he had of had the chance to play all the Nationals there is a good chance he would be top of the leader board. Sorry to keep bothering you but if you dont ask you dont get. Big WOOP WOOP for an other Great weekend the APAT team seem to up the standard every venue(less the chilli con carne).
Dave Green AKA (allinbob2)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on September 01, 2008, 23:46:14 PM
We would very much like to have a stronger presence in Ireland so this is definitely on our development list.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: coprey on September 02, 2008, 09:02:14 AM
Good to hear. ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Jon MW on September 02, 2008, 10:04:19 AM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: scouse3465 on September 02, 2008, 12:42:37 PM
Even though i dont live there Des if you still want it in fortune rooms in Bangor i can get in touch with him again he was very keen when i spoke to him last year. Or dave or Colin still go there i believe ! And it was if i played the regional s dave not the nationals i cant make 2nd day let alone score a point ;)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: coprey on September 02, 2008, 14:59:57 PM
I can speak to Des or Barney about this. I think they would be keen although would have to sort out the logistics as to how they could fit it into their current schedule and the buy-in. Obviously they would have to conform to the APAT philosophy and stucture. As they have two locations, Bangor and Cookstown, it might be fair to alternate the location of the regional in the interests of fairness. This will also mean the maximum number exposed to the benefits of joining and playing APAT events.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: rubertoe on September 02, 2008, 18:28:17 PM
I"m still recovering from Saturday........ ::)
.......But i still cant wait!!!!
;D ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: allinbob2 on September 02, 2008, 20:37:34 PM
To be honest Colin I would play in anywhere in Ireland North or South as long as there is no water to cross. Colin you missed a great weekend in London but you didnt miss any great food. I still have the runs lol
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: coprey on September 03, 2008, 09:29:51 AM
LOL Dave, I never play poker for the buffet, although Fitzwilliam wasn"t bad.
Was sorry I missed this event, but was unable to. Already looking forward to S3.
I agree i"d play anywhere in ireland, so get it sorted APAT!...Please!!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Santino67 on September 03, 2008, 13:25:46 PM
Who else had the Chilli??? :o ...........and I was blaming the lager :D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: coprey on September 03, 2008, 13:52:28 PM
O r the combination of the two. :-[
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: inthepink on September 04, 2008, 19:03:29 PM
So with season 3 not being announced till nov, is it likely the first event wont be till 2009, last years uk was in december but the schedule wwas announced in august.Sorry, i am just very impatient ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on September 04, 2008, 19:21:49 PM
You may want to look at those timings again. There were three APAT event dates between the launch of S2 and the UK Championship last year.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Swinebag on September 04, 2008, 21:29:22 PM
thats the beauty of poker "seasons". Given the fact they are played indoors, they can last as long or short as is necessary. At least we can guarantee that when S3 is announced, we are in for a treat!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: CrizzyConnor on September 05, 2008, 01:32:45 AM
Do you have any idea if the online series and qualifiers in S3 will definitely be played on Blue Square again? I absolutely hate BSQ and know a few others feel the same, including friends who wont join APAT because of it (& also the fact they haven"t managed to clickfest in once!)...
I"d definitely play in the majority, if not all, of the online events if they were on Stars or Full Tilt...
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: biffa85 on September 05, 2008, 08:01:14 AM
You shouldn"t expect any changes in sponsor, as I think both APAT and BSQ were happy with the deal, and without BSQ we wouldn"t be getting the gukpt seats as added value.
At least BSQ now have stud tourneys, so hopefully wont be long before razz introduced, then just maybe HORSE tournies not too far behind.
;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: MAIR on September 05, 2008, 08:37:33 AM
I actually like Blue Square now, took me ages to get that way but with what they offer as a sponsor for APAT it was worth hanging in there to get used to the software.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: coprey on September 05, 2008, 12:42:59 PM
I actually like Blue Square now, took me ages to get that way but with what they offer as a sponsor for APAT it was worth hanging in there to get used to the software.
Have to agree. I took the hump with ipoker for a while, but the support they give to APAT is deserving of our support. I hope this sponsorship arrangement continues and grows. ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on September 05, 2008, 13:00:19 PM
You shouldn"t expect any changes in sponsor, as I think both APAT and BSQ were happy with the deal, and without BSQ we wouldn"t be getting the gukpt seats as added value.
At least BSQ now have stud tourneys, so hopefully wont be long before razz introduced, then just maybe HORSE tournies not too far behind.
;D
Well said Benet.
Just to be clear, without Blue Square there wouldn"t be GUKPT and GUKPT Grand Final seats, trophys, medals, added money, banners, dealers, buffets, hotels (and travel if overseas) for the gruesome threesome that run the events. There might possibly be no Grosvenor involvement. There would almost certainly be APAT membership fees and tournament registration fees :D
In short, if live poker is your passion then APAT has a proposition that doesn"t exist anywhere else in the world, and for their support, we all have a lot to thank Blue Square for. One way to do that is by supporting their cardroom. That"s worth remembering the next time we hear shuffle up and deal on day one of an APAT National.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on September 05, 2008, 16:19:42 PM
I play almost exclusively on BSQ now, after taking about a month to win a single hand! I have got used to the site and I echo everything Des says, well done guys keep it up!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Maxriddles on September 05, 2008, 19:27:44 PM
I actually like Blue Square now, took me ages to get that way but with what they offer as a sponsor for APAT it was worth hanging in there to get used to the software.
Have to agree. I took the hump with ipoker for a while, but the support they give to APAT is deserving of our support. I hope this sponsorship arrangement continues and grows. ;D
I"d be more than happy to see season 3 remain on Bluesquare. I like the $25, $30, and $55 double stack games on ipoker and I do play these quite regulalry. Blue Square also now get the majority of my sports betting business too. It"s also very easy to deposit and cash out.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: RioRodent on September 05, 2008, 19:45:15 PM
I play almost exclusively on BSQ now, after taking about a month to win a single hand! I have got used to the site and I echo everything Des says, well done guys keep it up!
It took you that long to realise that getting it in with the second best hand is +ev??? ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: bigredders on September 05, 2008, 23:16:20 PM
i agree with everything des and others say about blue sq...they might not have the best software on ipoker...but blue square give so much added value in terms of seats and the grovsenor casinos we have visited quite possibly have to be the most welcoming in the country..not only that blue sq have started books on the main events so people can have bets on their other fancies for the tournament, something of which cannot happen on stars/full tilt
and besides the ipoker network is FULL of fish, which outweighs good software evertime
and speaking of bad software..ipoker is great compared to virgin..horrible!!!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Mayfair on September 06, 2008, 00:10:23 AM
You shouldn"t expect any changes in sponsor, as I think both APAT and BSQ were happy with the deal, and without BSQ we wouldn"t be getting the gukpt seats as added value.
At least BSQ now have stud tourneys, so hopefully wont be long before razz introduced, then just maybe HORSE tournies not too far behind.
;D
Well said Benet.
Just to be clear, without Blue Square there wouldn"t be GUKPT and GUKPT Grand Final seats, trophys, medals, added money, banners, dealers, buffets, hotels (and travel if overseas) for the gruesome threesome that run the events. There might possibly be no Grosvenor involvement. There would almost certainly be APAT membership fees and tournament registration fees :D
In short, if live poker is your passion then APAT has a proposition that doesn"t exist anywhere else in the world, and for their support, we all have a lot to thank Blue Square for. One way to do that is by supporting their cardroom. That"s worth remembering the next time we hear shuffle up and deal on day one of an APAT National.
Can"t agree more Des.
LIVE deep stack poker is what it is all about. I"m a mere novice when it comes to live poker and the recent WCOAP main event was where i lost my live poker virginty (forwoahhh) and i wouldn"t have lost it anywhere else.
It is refreshing to see that a major company like Rank are willing to invest so much in handing over their premier card rooms to non fee paying players like us and add in the overlays of GUKPT seats aswell in return for the fact that we might play 50 odd online deep stack MTTs at UK friendly times. And there is nobody holding a gun to your head to play anything more than that. They might want us to do our stack at the roulette wheel when we are out but you would do that at any casino if you were so inclined.
UK poker forums are full of posts moaning about how casinos aren"t willing to look after poker players and yet how any people have anything bad to say about the recent WCOAP events ??? OK the chili wasn"t great :-X
Bring on S3
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on September 06, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
and speaking of bad software..ipoker is great compared to virgin..horrible!!!
I completely agree. The BOSS software makes iPoker look like PokerStars.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Ericstoner on September 06, 2008, 10:30:30 AM
Have to agree, Blue sq are second to none across the whole market. Their backroom guys are great.Let"s just hope they and Grosv"r are in for the long run.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Santino67 on September 06, 2008, 19:28:04 PM
Next time I win money, my gf won"t be getting her cut until the broadband is well & truly up & running ;)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: billyho10 on September 06, 2008, 20:10:02 PM
thanks for that - just had everyone in the office looking when I laughed out so loud!!!!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Cyntaf on September 24, 2008, 13:05:34 PM
Yes Rob, the hairstyle is a dead give away :D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: holdmenuts on October 13, 2008, 13:09:47 PM
Please do one in Bristol this season!!!!
Title: 2009 schedule
Post by: rowrow87 on October 20, 2008, 10:33:19 AM
Hey does anyone know when the schedule for 2009 will be announced? Looking to buy into a live tournament asap, but nothing really appears to be on anywhere. thanks ac
Title: Re: 2009 schedule
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on October 20, 2008, 10:35:16 AM
Your guess is as good as Des's ;)
Title: Re: 2009 schedule
Post by: HaworthBantam on October 20, 2008, 10:38:18 AM
I think we can expect something within the next month or so.
Title: Re: 2009 schedule
Post by: linziwan on October 20, 2008, 10:39:42 AM
When will there be an announcement, about the announcement for announcing season 3 :o
My guess would be "soon"
Mine would be not soon.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: ianwaugh on November 14, 2008, 14:23:50 PM
Looking forward to season three, only attended the academy so far but planning to play in more events this time - sick of the rubbish structures of most tournaments, ready for some serious poker!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: texfitz on November 14, 2008, 14:25:35 PM
When will there be an announcement, about the announcement for announcing season 3 :o
My guess would be "soon"
Mine would be not soon.
mine would be a bit later than that
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: texfitz on November 14, 2008, 14:32:13 PM
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Looking forward to season three, only attended the academy so far but planning to play in more events this time - sick of the rubbish structures of most tournaments, ready for some serious poker!
hi ian, welcome to the forum, keep checking for the announcement that states an announcement will be made in a later announcement about season 3...
i reckon if you check back very regularly (every 7 weeks or so) you will catch the announcement ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: cabbie007 on November 14, 2008, 15:51:55 PM
Bit of a joke near christmas and still no dates as yet.
1 & 2 were off and running by now, casualty of its own success 8)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Roscopiko on November 14, 2008, 16:27:39 PM
Whats the rush people, chill you boots, the dates will be the same if they are released today, tomorrow or soon.
Let the fella put his feet up, he deserves it and we can all get excited about the new season when the time comes.......honestly......children!! ::)
Please, please, please release the dates, I can"t sleep i"m so excited.
PPS Any chance of my medals lololololol :-*
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: scottyp on November 14, 2008, 21:20:27 PM
wots the deal with the membership thing on the homepage? Do we need to reregister to get the season 3 info?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on November 14, 2008, 21:26:09 PM
No need to re-register. As you"ve registered for a forum account, you"re already a member of APAT.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on November 14, 2008, 23:56:58 PM
Bit of a joke near christmas and still no dates as yet.
1 & 2 were off and running by now, casualty of its own success 8)
I must resist, I must resist...
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on November 15, 2008, 00:03:16 AM
Patience, patience folks. It will all resolve itself in good time and as we have already confirmed, APAT Season Three will not be starting until the new year.
It is also very likely that the season will extend well beyond one year, so hang on in there and as soon as we can put the schedule out, we will.
In the interim, we welcome your continuing thoughts on what you would like to see in Season Three. Remember, until the schedule is published, all ideas are potentially viable.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: texfitz on November 15, 2008, 01:08:55 AM
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Patience, patience folks. It will all resolve itself in good time and as we have already confirmed, APAT Season Three will not be starting until the new millenium.
It is also very likely that the season will extend well beyond one year lifetime, so hang on in there and as soon as we can put the schedule out, we will.
In the interim, we welcome your continuing thoughts on what you would like to see in Season Three
schedule would be nice.
Remember, until the schedule is published, all ideas are potentially viable.
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seriously though WP all of APAT team and i think this will grow bigger than anyone expected
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Jagz7 on November 15, 2008, 04:50:25 AM
i would love to play the next season fully, i jst hope i remember to play next yr :O
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: tiredofwork on November 15, 2008, 12:00:14 PM
Tighty and Des now those guys obviously do less work than that jolly old fat guy in the red suit!!!!!!
One day a year thats all we are asking for.LOL
SEASON 3 SEASON 3 SEASON 3 SEASON 3 SEASON 3 etc etc
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: IBangU on November 15, 2008, 22:32:59 PM
How about forget holdem for a year and play every event as Razz :)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: CrizzyConnor on November 16, 2008, 00:55:37 AM
I never got to make it to the World"s in London, will there be any other events in the new season with the chance to play games other than hold "em? By that of course I mean Omaha (the razz, stud and other limit games are just a bit too boring)...
Omaha"s becoming quite big so think it could probably pull a decent enough crowd - would there be any chance of doing a one day Omaha event like the day before one of the nationals (on the Friday?), maybe with a capped field to keep it to a one day event. I"m sure the field wouldn"t be massive anyway due to people"s work commitments but might be a nice little addittion?
Or even a one off standalone event. APAT British Omaha Championship"s got a nice ring to it. Or add the word European to it and get the Euro"s involved for a bigger field.
Oh yeah, and preferably as close to the top of the map as possible, lol. Scotland"s probably unlikely but Manchester is nice and in the middle.
Thank you please.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: CrizzyConnor on November 16, 2008, 16:45:57 PM
Oh yeah, forgot to mention...
Antes.
I"m sure they"re already added already though?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on November 16, 2008, 17:52:55 PM
Tighty and Des now those guys obviously do less work than that jolly old fat guy in the red suit!!!!!!
One day a year thats all we are asking for.LOL
SEASON 3 SEASON 3 SEASON 3 SEASON 3 SEASON 3 etc etc
behave!
What is being worked on will blow your socks off.
My socks were blown so far away I am only now capable of going sock-less!
I"ve been using these http://www.woodsofshropshire.co.uk/shop/mens-accessories/mens-garters-and-sock-supenders/navy-blue-mens-sock-suspenders just recently, Rich.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on November 16, 2008, 21:36:35 PM
Best to get yourself a pair of these ... mine are dead comfy and I cannae reach ma socks never mind have them blown through the top quality leather! ;)
(http://www.net10.co.uk/APAT/forum/thighhigh.jpg)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: tiredofwork on November 17, 2008, 16:11:41 PM
Ha Ha these threads are top quality!
Not sure about the choice of footwear favoured by some of our members though!!!!
Perhaps a serious look at dress code for season 3.No Trainers only heels!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: mikelott on November 19, 2008, 01:43:21 AM
I agree that the location for the Worlds should be more central. Walsall has a big room and is very accessible for a lot of people.
Like the idea of Antes.
Don"t like the regional games being Saturday afternoon, early evening would be better for me.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: MintTrav on November 20, 2008, 13:34:47 PM
My new favourite game - Omaha Hi/Lo.
Also, I think you should hold a couple of National events in the Portsmouth / Southampton area. That would be nice and convenient for me (and Leigh).
Finally, I"m not sure whether anyone has mentioned antes?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on November 20, 2008, 14:08:51 PM
I agree that the location for the Worlds should be more central.
You"re assuming that the Worlds will be held in the UK. Nothing to stop it from being held on mainland Europe.
[no insider knowledge here, before anyone asks]
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: hi_am_chris on November 20, 2008, 14:11:40 PM
or further afield, werent the worlds in series one almost held outside of Europe?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on November 20, 2008, 14:31:32 PM
I don"t remember there being any Worlds in Season 1 ???
http://www.apat.com/Champions_S1.php
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: AMRN on November 20, 2008, 14:56:17 PM
It took 30 years for the WORLD SERIES of Poker to get outside America....... why should we be in such a rush to get the WCOAP out of the UK?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on November 20, 2008, 15:56:54 PM
I"m in no rush Steve, I do however recognise that "The World" consists of a great many nations - something that certain well known sporting organisations in another country have difficulty with ;)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: A_Stupid_Man on November 20, 2008, 16:06:23 PM
I"m in no rush Steve, I do however recognise that "The World" consists of a great many nations - something that certain well known sporting organisations in another country have difficulty with ;)
Good point, I am guessing that is a dig at things like the "World Series" in baseball.
I am only new here but I believe that everyone involved ith APAT, be that organisers, long-time members or new members, like myself, would like it to become quite a big thing for everyone, no matter where they are in the world. Therefore, it would make sense to some day stage the "Worlds" outside of the UK. Perhaps, venues could be changed every year when something like that is visable.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on November 20, 2008, 16:12:35 PM
.......be that organisers, long-time members or new members, like myself, would like it to become quite a big thing for everyone, no matter where they are in the world.......
World Domination.....mwahahahhahah !!!
Ahem, sorry, yes, good post.....
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: MintTrav on November 20, 2008, 16:19:46 PM
Bit presumptuous of us calling it the World Championship, when virtually all the players are from the UK? If I ever won it I don"t think I could tell people I was the World Champion! [Before someone gets there - I know, no need to worry].
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: rubertoe on November 20, 2008, 17:11:29 PM
Bit presumptuous of us calling it the World Championship, when virtually all the players are from the UK? If I ever won it I don"t think I could tell people I was the World Champion! [Before someone gets there - I know, no need to worry].
Isnt the WSOP Mostly Full of north Americans - yet that is still the "World" Series of Poker - Likewise when it was first conceptualised 30 years ago wernt all the players American.
WACOP at the Vic - Does it need to go anywhere else
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: A_Stupid_Man on November 20, 2008, 17:18:10 PM
Likewise when it was first conceptualised 30 years ago wernt all the players American.
Most probably, but as I said the Americans throw around "World Champion" far too liberally when it comes to their mainstream sports.
Just look at the WPT, very few events take place outside of North America. That is most probably why other parts of the globe are being catered for by new tours, such as the LAPT and APPT.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Garth Maul on November 21, 2008, 11:15:49 AM
Patience, patience folks. It will all resolve itself in good time and as we have already confirmed, APAT Season Three will not be starting until the new year.
It is also very likely that the season will extend well beyond one year, so hang on in there and as soon as we can put the schedule out, we will.
In the interim, we welcome your continuing thoughts on what you would like to see in Season Three. Remember, until the schedule is published, all ideas are potentially viable.
I would love to see some more regional events. Some of the nationals are sometimes a little difficult to make so a few more live regionals would be great!!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: bigalhx3 on November 21, 2008, 21:17:20 PM
yorkshire would be nice hudderfield has a nice 120 seat card room and could get more in tables in
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: hi_am_chris on November 22, 2008, 16:16:31 PM
Huddersfield or Leeds would be great
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: nosey-p on November 24, 2008, 10:37:22 AM
When will season 3 be announced?
My guess would be, at the same time as the next issue of Pokerplayer, (I think there is one due out, so it would be after this one) as they are a sponsor it would make sense if it were to coincide with the December issue.
So my guess would be Dec 18th
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on November 24, 2008, 10:43:07 AM
My guess would be, at the same time as the next issue of Pokerplayer, (I think there is one due out, so it would be after this one) as they are a sponsor it would make sense if it were to coincide with the December issue.
So my guess would be Dec 18th
Which year?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: nosey-p on November 24, 2008, 10:58:18 AM
:o
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on November 24, 2008, 14:19:37 PM
But I think your deduction is spot on.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: T. Francis on November 24, 2008, 21:21:10 PM
hi,
just checked in from abroad (germany) to watch out for season 3 plannings and found a lot of funny statements. great! keep it up. ;)
one thought about your ideas about having some events in europe: maybe you should get one or two european voices into your think tank. (forget it if you have already some of them in your board). they could help you to find out, if it is making sense... would your sponsor like to get more players from europe on their online-site? certainly. but would all your members like the idea?
maybe you could follow the ideas of the wsop and add an event (something like the wsope) and bring that to europe!!!?
kind regards,
chris
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on November 24, 2008, 21:31:29 PM
Weiner Nunstadt for the win -- that was class (what I can remember)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: T. Francis on November 25, 2008, 11:26:53 AM
Weiner Nunstadt for the win -- that was class (what I can remember)
hello duke,
wiener neustadt? when have you been there? i am from vienna, but moved to germany with my wife. i have never been to poker royale club. they had a bigger event there last weekend.
kind regards,
chris
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: jedgell on November 25, 2008, 16:19:19 PM
can i take it that the apat league games happening that are stated on bsq are the start of the new season
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on November 25, 2008, 16:32:06 PM
Indeed they are jedgell. New Season to start in January 2009.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Roscopiko on November 25, 2008, 16:50:32 PM
Weiner Nunstadt for the win -- that was class (what I can remember)
hello duke,
wiener neustadt? when have you been there? i am from vienna, but moved to germany with my wife. i have never been to poker royale club. they had a bigger event there last weekend.
kind regards,
chris
APAT descended on the place in Seasn 2 for the Europeans it was class
[X] Scouse nearly got shot [X] Des broke the key machine [X] Ironside freewheeled down the hill [X] Smoking tables [ ] Austrian police have a sense of humour [ ] Duke was sober and remembers everthing [ ] Kingpoker is the best wheelchair pusher in the world
Great weekend
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on November 25, 2008, 18:45:20 PM
Indeed they are jedgell. New Season to start in January 2009.
Woops, I mis-read it :-[ Sorry.
Cheeky Leigh.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on November 25, 2008, 22:51:22 PM
Erm........ how come there are new APAT games on Blue square (starting Thursday!!!!!!), yet no dates have been officially released yet?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on November 25, 2008, 23:32:19 PM
We"re running an 8 game Mini League during November and December ... more details can be found at
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2124.0
Access to more threads relating to it;
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?board=3.0
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on November 26, 2008, 03:32:47 AM
Oops, fool me for being lazy and not looking around the forum a bit more for news.
However, shouldn"t this have been a bit more widely known ???
Ok, everyday i don"t put in my penniesworth concerning things because it usally amounts to something that someone has already said and it can get a bit teadious for people to answser the same questions. Nevertheless, i do log on everyday and i do look at this thread everyday - itching for some sort of news to come my way. And only in the past couple of posts i notice something being metioned about something or other which you have just metioned.
Oh dear, just remembered that i have been in hospital for two weeks and i have just rendered what i have just moaned about pointless ........................... :-[
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: jedgell on November 29, 2008, 12:52:14 PM
looking forward to new season only got to play couple of events last year one of which being the european austria absoultely brill cant wait 4 season 3 hopefully we go there again. cheers for the info guys. roll on january WOOP WOOP
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: hollaboo on December 01, 2008, 14:39:06 PM
Thought the season 3 dates were being announced in December. Well Ive wiated and waited and here we are almost 15 hours in and still nothin
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 01, 2008, 20:08:35 PM
All these impatient poker players.................... ::)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 01, 2008, 23:58:38 PM
.................and still another 27 days to go till the end of December.
Look at it like this, earlier in this thread someone metioned the fact that the dates will possibly be released in PokerPlayer. The next issue is going to be released on or around - "cause it came out early this month in WHSmith - the 18th of December, if the dates are not released before then you can most probably safely say there will be no games till well into January 09 - after the January PokerPlayer has been released.
For the people who have the bank and the people who are well enough, there has been a mini league set-up on BlueSquare - so i suppose we can safely say APAT will be there again this time. Why don"t you just enjoy them till we all get down to the nitty gritty against everyones impatience.
Peace.
Sub.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 04, 2008, 12:21:16 PM
For the people who have the bank and the people who are well enough, there has been a mini league set-up on BlueSquare - so i suppose we can safely say APAT will be there again this time. Why don"t you just enjoy them till we all get down to the nitty gritty against everyones impatience.
Thanks for the bit of marketing. 3 Legs of the mini-league left, so anyone who joins now can still take down the top position. Next leg is this Saturday (6th Dec).
Full Schedule (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2124.0)
Current Table (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2148.0)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: nosey-p on December 06, 2008, 11:26:57 AM
Just been playing on BS, THEY HAVE ANTES how long have they had them?
Looks like S3 will have ANTES?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: sopranoltd on December 06, 2008, 12:07:52 PM
Its now December and still NO schedule ....
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Santino67 on December 06, 2008, 12:18:58 PM
For the people who have the bank and the people who are well enough, there has been a mini league set-up on BlueSquare - so i suppose we can safely say APAT will be there again this time. Why don"t you just enjoy them till we all get down to the nitty gritty against everyones impatience.
Thanks for the bit of marketing. 3 Legs of the mini-league left, so anyone who joins now can still take down the top position. Next leg is this Saturday (6th Dec).
Full Schedule (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2124.0)
Current Table (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2148.0)
Legs???................Positions?................Poker?................. all getting a bit rude in here :o
Any news on season 3 yet? :D
Give Des a break you guys :P
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Rabsie on December 06, 2008, 16:48:49 PM
I know patience is a virtue but it is also a limited commodity ;)
The last regular open APAT event seems a long time ago. Sh@t it was over 3 months ago when I bubbled the proper cash at the World"s in the Vic. The last regional was so long ago I can"t even remember it! But I am getting old and forgetful.
The off-season online has been a great idea and well run too with up to date leagues and everything. Not that I have troubled the scorers on that. Going to try the PL Omaha tonight. Should be a laugh as I have never played PL and Omaha once only after a mis-click on a table lobby. WTF I have 4 cards, what do I do with them???????? Thank God for Googling "Omaha rules". I cashed as well!!!!!! Anyone have a link to a beginners guide to PL Omaha? Seriously I will need it.
Rabsie
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Santino67 on December 07, 2008, 10:33:59 AM
I know patience is a virtue but it is also a limited commodity ;)
The last regular open APAT event seems a long time ago. Sh@t it was over 3 months ago when I bubbled the proper cash at the World"s in the Vic. The last regional was so long ago I can"t even remember it! But I am getting old and forgetful.
The off-season online has been a great idea and well run too with up to date leagues and everything. Not that I have troubled the scorers on that. Going to try the PL Omaha tonight. Should be a laugh as I have never played PL and Omaha once only after a mis-click on a table lobby. WTF I have 4 cards, what do I do with them???????? Thank God for Googling "Omaha rules". I cashed as well!!!!!! Anyone have a link to a beginners guide to PL Omaha? Seriously I will need it.
Rabsie
PL Omaha for beginners............If you don"t flop at least a straight, muck your hand ;D
Title: Re: 2009 schedule
Post by: The Codd on December 07, 2008, 21:35:08 PM
Any news on the new season yet? I"m keen to make an effort to play more than I did this season.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: The Codd on December 07, 2008, 21:36:30 PM
PL Omaha for beginners............If you don"t flop at least a straight, muck your handthere"s a turn and a river to come yet, lump it in ;D
fyp
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 07, 2008, 21:47:36 PM
We are hoping to finalise details for Season Three this week, as we are weeks into negotiations with the sponsor.
At the earliest it will be next weekend before an announcement goes out. We will do our very best to deliver on that, but of course this is still subject to possible delay.
Thanks for your continuing patience. :)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Waz1892 on December 07, 2008, 21:52:07 PM
We are hoping to finalise details for Season Three this week, as we are weeks into negotiations with the sponsor.
At the earliest it will be next weekend before an announcement goes out. We will do our very best to deliver on that, but of course this is still subject to possible delay.
Thanks for your continuing patience. :)
7th January 2009. I have no idea but as good as guess as any! :)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2008, 22:17:10 PM
I have some inside information about Season 3.
It will start in 2009...
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 07, 2008, 22:20:29 PM
We are hoping to finalise details for Season Three this week, as we are weeks into negotiations with the sponsor.
At the earliest it will be next weekend before an announcement goes out. We will do our very best to deliver on that, but of course this is still subject to possible delay.
Thanks for your continuing patience. :)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: MAIR on December 09, 2008, 13:07:53 PM
Maybe announced on Saturday for my Birthday :D a lovely present to give me hehehehe. (lol total APAT addict am I)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: tumblet on December 09, 2008, 13:09:00 PM
We are hoping to finalise details for Season Three this week, as we are weeks into negotiations with the sponsor.
At the earliest it will be next weekend before an announcement goes out. We will do our very best to deliver on that, but of course this is still subject to possible delay.
Thanks for your continuing patience. :)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 09, 2008, 19:30:53 PM
I think Des is hiring some bloke in red to deliver the news.........
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 09, 2008, 19:31:36 PM
......I believe Torres is free...... ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 09, 2008, 19:35:47 PM
Patience...............
How can a society that exists on instant mashed potatoes, packaged cake mixes, frozen dinners, microwaves, one click shopping, and instant cameras teach patience to APAT members..........................
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 09, 2008, 19:39:05 PM
Oh and by the way Des is a man who would rather you heard his story than had your request granted. So if we all sit quiet he will get annoyed and then we will hear the great New World order......................
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 09, 2008, 19:42:41 PM
Actually, knowing Des, he"ll just start droping hints and teasers in an attempt to whip us all up again........
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 09, 2008, 20:46:05 PM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 10, 2008, 04:36:37 AM
Quote
For the people who have the bank and the people who are well enough, there has been a mini league set-up on BlueSquare - so i suppose we can safely say APAT will be there again this time.
Assumption being the mother of all f*** ups
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We are hoping to finalise details for Season Three this week, as we are weeks into negotiations with the sponsor.
Only going by this.
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Actually, knowing Des, he"ll just start droping hints and teasers in an attempt to whip us all up again........
But then there is this.
Does anyone possibly have any ideas what maybe going on.
All i would like to say is if these negotiations are true, please don"t let it be negotiations between one party and dare i say PKR - it would just make me cry. Not only am i banned - easily overturned, i think. But the problem would be having to listen to all those emote crazy youngsters - must have password protection.
Thats another thing - how about passwords to get into tourneys. It would get people to join and get more people subscribing to PokerPlayer, if of course they are still a sponsor.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Preedmaster on December 10, 2008, 10:36:28 AM
Hi been a while since I looged on here. In season 3 will there be any games in either Cardiff or Bristol? Cheers and have a very merry christmas.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on December 10, 2008, 10:42:25 AM
I could be exaggerating - it could be Windows Millenium - which is just Windows 98 with MORE bugs :)
Let"s not get started on Vista :o :o :o
Took me a while to get used to Vista, but I quite like it now.
3.11 was my fav though.... :D
I preferred the Sinclair Spectrum myself :P
I have one of those too. :)
I"m sure I"ve still got an Atari somewhere at home Stuart. Could prob sell them on EBay now :D
The Speccy was my second computer. My first was an Ohio SuperBoard II from "78 I think - great computer which I"ve still got :D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: SirPercival on December 12, 2008, 18:15:50 PM
All this off topic talk is just distracting Des from announcing the season 3 dates. Come on Des you said this weekend, well the weekend starts on a friday night doesn"t it? ;)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Santino67 on December 12, 2008, 18:23:42 PM
All this off topic talk is just distracting Des from announcing the season 3 dates. Come on Des you said this weekend, well the weekend starts on a friday night doesn"t it? ;)
Ah once again the impatience has returned ;D
Anyone out there got a Commodore 64?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Preedmaster on December 12, 2008, 18:27:25 PM
Had an Amstrad with colour.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 12, 2008, 18:30:09 PM
One of my ex"s had one, I remember being amazed at having a screen and "box" in one unit :o
You have an ex :o.You old playboy.
Lol :D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 12, 2008, 21:36:08 PM
I am very sorry to say to you fellas, however, the computer i have now is my very first computer and i am 29.
I was more into consoles and stuff - even though MY very first console was a SNES, it really did not stop me from admiring everything you guys are talking about - plus all the lower range consoles out previous to the SNES.
I remember when i was alot younger - before my teens, all i know i was growing up in Bermondsey (Central London) - trying to convince a friend to let me into his house to let me play on his Amiga - i think the spec was 900, but don"t hold me to that. I remember sometimes the mate would say that i would have to smell his feet first before i could play on it - horrible. Sometimes the guy would not change or take off his shoes and socks for days, so he says and i would not have put it past him.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: SirPercival on December 12, 2008, 23:05:36 PM
All this off topic talk is just distracting Des from announcing the season 3 dates. Come on Des you said this weekend, well the weekend starts on a friday night doesn"t it? ;)
Ah once again the impatience has returned ;D
Anyone out there got a Commodore 64?
I had a one, but I had the Commodore Vic20 before that and think my folks might still have it in the attic.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 13, 2008, 14:56:04 PM
It looks like the announcement will be next weekend now as the translator fell ill and negotiations could not complete.
Here is a taster of what"s to come....this event should go on sale almost immediately.
WCOAP 2009 (http://www.apat.com/event_wcoap.gif)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Waz1892 on December 13, 2008, 14:59:00 PM
It looks like the announcement will be next weekend now as the translator fell ill and negotiations could not complete.
Here is a taster of what"s to come....this event should go on sale almost immediately.
WCOAP 2009 (http://www.apat.com/event_wcoap.gif)
Santa delivers on time with an announcement to keep the apat massive on their toes.. Bring on next weekend..
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: mike saban on December 13, 2008, 18:53:10 PM
so with that advert, I assume no follow up Razz and Stud tournaments ?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: antthecat on December 13, 2008, 20:44:25 PM
just wondering, will there be a great yarmouth regional as last seasons was a bit of a low turn out but i think that i could recruit a few more players from my local haunts. i hope there will be a yarmouth regional
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Baldus New on December 13, 2008, 22:27:47 PM
Ant, can I play you for cash again to get my buy in back????? ;)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: monkeyman on December 13, 2008, 22:49:46 PM
Just thought Blue Square was a British company is all :-* - obviously doesn"t mean you don"t need translators. Just when i ring up their customer service they have Jade Goody esq talkers on the other end of the phone - why a foreign firm would want their call centre in the middle of London is beyond me. :P
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Ripple11 on December 14, 2008, 00:09:36 AM
Ant, can I play you for cash again to get my buy in back????? ;)
thats rude andy, kick a man when he"s down lol, but yes ill give u a cash game, my game has improved a little lol. c u there
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Baldus New on December 15, 2008, 11:39:44 AM
I would never kick a man when he is down but you can be damn sure I"ll take his chips given the chance!!!!!! ;)
8d 7d
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: antthecat on December 15, 2008, 21:12:02 PM
nice ill do the same. :)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 17, 2008, 19:50:35 PM
Just for the impatient ones,
PokerPlayer came out in Smiths yesterday, there are no dates announced - assuming they are still a sponsor. The next one does not come out until around the 29th January 2009.
So assuming all the assumptions, we may be able to safely say there may not be a game until February "09 - at least it gives time to build a bankroll.
Remember these are only assumptions.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 17, 2008, 19:59:36 PM
PokerPlayer came out in Smiths yesterday, there are no dates announced - assuming they are still a sponsor. The next one does not come out until around the 29th January 2009.
So assuming all the assumptions, we may be able to safely say there may not be a game until February "09 - at least it gives time to build a bankroll.
Remember these are only assumptions.
Do I have to remind you what they say when you assume ?
;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 17, 2008, 23:04:28 PM
[mod edit]
(Ref: Lock, Stock and Two smoking Barrels)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 18, 2008, 10:15:42 AM
For the people who have the bank and the people who are well enough, there has been a mini league set-up on BlueSquare - so i suppose we can safely say APAT will be there again this time.
Assumption being the mother of all mess ups
There"s another one for ya mod ::) :-* :P
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Mayfair on December 19, 2008, 11:23:25 AM
Still no news eh.
Blue Square are offereing a xmas $100 re-load bonus and don"t know if we"ll be on BSQ for sure.
Can you even confirm APAT will be on BSQ for S3 Des ?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 19, 2008, 11:32:47 AM
If this carries on for much longer I"m going to send in Scouse...
APAT's answer to Kofi Annan. the Terminator ;D
FYP
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: scouse3465 on December 20, 2008, 18:27:48 PM
Kofi !! i will have to get my united nations hat on again lol ! Spookily enough i have been a peacekeeper for him too lol
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: scouse3465 on December 20, 2008, 18:31:48 PM
And we have so many guiness drinkers surely patience is the key ! good things come to those who wait !
Or get tighty bladdered at chezger poker game and he tells you everything
Only joking by the way lol ! We tried but he was tight lipped
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: clynd99 on December 23, 2008, 15:07:50 PM
Am I right in thinking we might as well just forget about this until after Christmas now? Which of the little pictures can I use to display frustration? Oh yes, 7s :2d:
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on December 23, 2008, 15:23:40 PM
Me reckons you might still be surprised ...
Me reckons you might not ...
OK, that"s no help. Och well.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on December 23, 2008, 16:07:03 PM
I reckon Des is going to have a little xmas present for us.
;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: WarBwastardo on December 23, 2008, 16:40:08 PM
Kofi !! i will have to get my united nations hat on again lol ! Spookily enough i have been a peacekeeper for him too lol
In Rwanda? Alright Tutsi"s calm down calm down...eh eh eh eh eh "oootooos, you can calm down too like come head come head. Flippin Hutu militia get so angleee over nottin..no but de do, de do doh don"t de doh
And so on
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on December 23, 2008, 16:44:36 PM
::)
erm, drugs?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: rubertoe on December 23, 2008, 16:51:26 PM
Kofi !! i will have to get my united nations hat on again lol ! Spookily enough i have been a peacekeeper for him too lol
In Rwanda? Alright Tutsi"s calm down calm down...eh eh eh eh eh "oootooos, you can calm down too like come head come head. Flippin Hutu militia get so angleee over nottin..no but de do, de do doh don"t de doh
Kofi !! i will have to get my united nations hat on again lol ! Spookily enough i have been a peacekeeper for him too lol
In Rwanda? Alright Tutsi"s calm down calm down...eh eh eh eh eh "oootooos, you can calm down too like come head come head. Flippin Hutu militia get so angleee over nottin..no but de do, de do doh don"t de doh
I reckon Des is going to have a little xmas present for us.
;D
You got the APAT socks in the post aswell then Daniel ?
I got some APAT Y-Fronts through the other day along with my Poker Player but they"re not really to my taste, i"ll gladly swap them for some socks... :D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on December 23, 2008, 20:48:19 PM
I got some APAT Y-Fronts through the other day along with my Poker Player but they"re not really to my taste, i"ll gladly swap them for some socks... :D
I found they weren"t to my taste either. After three uncomfortable days in them I gave them to my girlfriend ... Pls don"t tell my wife! ;D
(http://www.net10.co.uk/APAT/forum/pants.jpg)
Pointless Norkage - there"s just not enough of it on here!!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 23, 2008, 21:01:18 PM
I think some mods status is going to have to be re-evaluated........ ::) ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: TightEnd on December 23, 2008, 21:31:59 PM
Lukybugur is due a promotion. Well played sir!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: technolog on December 23, 2008, 22:41:42 PM
I want to go deep in an APAT.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 23, 2008, 23:05:28 PM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 23, 2008, 23:58:17 PM
I"m pleased to confirm that the Season Three sponsorship has been agreed and the APAT schedule has been locked down. There are still one or two minor details to be finalised, but we are close enough to be able to publish. To support this, a number of web pages etc, need to be updated and this work will start tomorrow evening. The press release is very likely to go out on the evening of the 26th / 27th.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: hollaboo on December 24, 2008, 00:04:37 AM
woop woop
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 24, 2008, 01:39:01 AM
There are still one or two minor details to be finalised, but we are close enough to be able to publish.
well then publish and be damned
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kaysing on December 24, 2008, 07:24:05 AM
Excellent effort to everyone who has worked so hard on our behalf. Whilst we wait patiently for the details, can we expect a Christmas message from our Chairman tomorrow giving us his thoughts on what has been and what is to come.
The Queens speach or the opening of Parliament come to mind. Will the credit crunch affect the way hands will/should be played? Is re-reraissing the new order or should we all play as tight as (pick a name - we all have some that leap to mind).
A very merry Christmas to all at APAT - I just hope Santa is going to bring everyone from Cornwall a National that is within 4 camel rides of home. Failing that, entry via the sats to any of them!!
All the best and have a good one my friends. See you next Year.
Kay
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: scouse3465 on December 24, 2008, 09:44:03 AM
26th / 27th cant wait , i am now going to have to be in a drunken stuper over the next few days so it flies in ! I am normally tee total too ? happy xmas to all !!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Jimmy010101 on December 24, 2008, 12:07:16 PM
I"m pleased to confirm that the Season Three sponsorship has been agreed and the APAT schedule has been locked down. There are still one or two minor details to be finalised, but we are close enough to be able to publish. To support this, a number of web pages etc, need to be updated and this work will start tomorrow evening. The press release is very likely to go out on the evening of the 26th / 27th.
The APAT should be renamed "The Guiness Tour" Good things come to those who wait and boy have we had to wait! Nice work to all involved! Woop Woop!!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 24, 2008, 12:18:39 PM
Hmm, the "APAT Guinness Tour", has a certain ring to it........ ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: SirPercival on December 24, 2008, 14:50:39 PM
Hmm, the "APAT Guinness Tour", has a certain ring to it........ ;D
what about an APAT Whisky Trail?
After Brighton, the APAT Urine trail might be appropriate...
Thanks Des, was taking a mouthful of coffee when I read your post - now looks like I have a trail of my own right now...... :D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: celticriver on December 24, 2008, 16:30:13 PM
26th give it to us early and make a it a Christmas present. C"mon Neil more dates and more totty. ::)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: lukybugur on December 24, 2008, 16:38:42 PM
Patience James, Des has said that he"ll be posting info "soon". Have we reason to doubt him ::)
Norkage? NAE BOTHER!!! It"ll have to be "APAT Branded" totty tho I"m afraid - it"s all Des allows on this tight ship he runs!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Maxriddles on December 24, 2008, 16:41:35 PM
I am slightly surprised by how many people are assuming that Des is referring to the 26th or 27th of December.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: celticriver on December 24, 2008, 18:18:32 PM
I"m sure I could put you in touch with some branded totty but they have all been branded by me mate sorry. lol. Oh and please give my regards to the more attractive and Intellectual half of your relationship. Cany believe she has not sussed you oot yet. Xxx.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: SirPercival on December 24, 2008, 19:43:06 PM
My head keeps on meeting with my brick wall and it hurts.
Just wait and be patient. :)
NO..
But maybe today....
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 27, 2008, 02:50:53 AM
Ouch, that one hurt! :"(
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: ForthThistle on December 27, 2008, 12:01:23 PM
I think today is the day.........
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: clynd99 on December 27, 2008, 12:21:38 PM
Why is the waiting winding me up so much?
I have a puppy, and he"s gonna get it if something isn"t said soon!
Give us something Des................Anything!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: rubertoe on December 27, 2008, 12:43:20 PM
Is it Xmas Yet??
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Shy Talk on December 27, 2008, 12:48:25 PM
When does season 4 start? - think I must have missed 3 ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: TopPair2Pair on December 27, 2008, 13:10:19 PM
I laugh at the gurth of this thread! Sheer genius and still going... (did he mean dec 26 / 27 2009?)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Baldus New on December 27, 2008, 13:28:46 PM
Due to the current and ongoing issues in the world"s financial markets, will APAT being offering any discounts for cash this year or easy payment options?
8d 7d
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 13:49:14 PM
There will be an announcement this evening.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: clynd99 on December 27, 2008, 13:52:50 PM
Woop Woop.
Before of after 6pm? 8)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Kinester on December 27, 2008, 13:55:44 PM
Woop ;D
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 27, 2008, 14:04:08 PM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 27, 2008, 14:54:45 PM
Going out for a bit of a session at my bro"s house now. I will have to stay sober emough to read the impending season 3 info when I get back in! ;) Dead excited now!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Kinester on December 27, 2008, 15:01:48 PM
Okay, I think we are ready to roll, but before we do it is important that you get some context with regards to the make up of Season Three.
When I post the Season Three Briefing, I will include a link to this thread for discussion, so feel free to continue to comment on S3 here.
Des just get on with it.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: ForthThistle on December 27, 2008, 21:23:36 PM
Des, Do i need to reboot.....
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: clynd99 on December 27, 2008, 21:36:58 PM
You okay there Des?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 21:40:33 PM
As everyone will know, there is a great deal of caution evident in UK business at the moment and as a result, marketing spend at every level is being examined extremely closely.
APAT have been in negotiations with Blue Square for several months on the make up of Season Three and as a result of developments in the last couple of weeks, we have taken the decision to put two significant APAT initiatives on hold for for the new season.
Included within this was the National Qualifying series, which was set to replace the Regional Championship in Season Two. So, effectively the local level £20 events will disappear for Season Three, effectively a victim of the credit crunch.
APAT has had many approaches from competitors to Blue Square, who would have welcomed the opportunity to take up this sponsorship. However, we have an outstanding partner in Blue Square and we felt it was very much in APAT members interests that we took a long term view, taking current market conditions into account, when finalising our partner base for Season Three.
So, I"m pleased to confirm Blue Square as APAT's headline sponsor in Season Three. They have cut their marketing spend back significantly elsewhere so it is a real sign of the determination on both sides to continue on from Season Two.
With the exception of the National Qualifying series, I believe that Season Three is a significant step forward on Season Two and I hope you all enjoy it.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 27, 2008, 21:41:36 PM
As everyone will know, there is a great deal of caution evident in UK business at the moment and as a result, marketing spend at every level is being examined extremely closely.
APAT have been in negotiations with Blue Square for several months on the make up of Season Three and as a result of developments in the last couple of weeks, we have taken the decision to put two significant APAT initiatives on hold for for the new season.
Included within this was the National Qualifying series, which was set to replace the Regional Championship in Season Two. So, effectively the local level £20 events will disappear for Season Three, effectively a victim of the credit crunch.
APAT has had many approaches from competitors to Blue Square, who would have welcomed the opportunity to take up this sponsorship. However, we have an outstanding partner in Blue Square and we felt it was very much in APAT members interests that we took a long term view, taking current market conditions into account, when finalising our partner base for Season Three.
So, I"m pleased to confirm Blue Square as APAT's headline sponsor in Season Three. They have cut their marketing spend back significantly elsewhere so it is a real sign of the determination on both sides to continue on from Season Two.
With the exception of the National Qualifying series, I believe that Season Three is a significant step forward on Season Two and I hope you all enjoy it.
Unfortunately, I don"t think there was much choice.....
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: clynd99 on December 27, 2008, 22:14:57 PM
Would you be asked to pledge allegiance to one of the regional teams upon registering for an online event?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: busman on December 27, 2008, 22:15:13 PM
disapointed !!!! no live regionals as really enjoyed that part of season 2....
except the national events.... everything else online
only way to qualify for nationals as such. online with BSq... cant see there being many available for straight buy in. IMHO
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 22:15:39 PM
Looks like I wont be able to compete in much if any of APAT season 3, with the online games now being on Saturday and Sunday evenings.
A possible error by APAT, unless I am missing something for the initial quick read
The Online National Championship events will be extremely deepstacked affairs so Saturday became the most obvious dates for them.
The National League games will be shorter affairs and lent themselves to a Sunday evening, which seems to be recognised as the main poker night of the weeks. That said, we will listed to feedback and it is very possible to move the National League to a weekday night, but we"d need to see a lot of support for it.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: TimeForPoker on December 27, 2008, 22:17:08 PM
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 27, 2008, 22:17:27 PM
As everyone will know, there is a great deal of caution evident in UK business at the moment and as a result, marketing spend at every level is being examined extremely closely.
Yep, point taken, but with no regionals and an online buy-in above my usual limits, unfortunately, I currently struggling to see where my APAT involvement will be is season 3. Oh dear. APAT have been in negotiations with Blue Square for several months on the make up of Season Three and as a result of developments in the last couple of weeks, we have taken the decision to put two significant APAT initiatives on hold for for the new season.
Included within this was the National Qualifying series, which was set to replace the Regional Championship in Season Two. So, effectively the local level £20 events will disappear for Season Three, effectively a victim of the credit crunch.
APAT has had many approaches from competitors to Blue Square, who would have welcomed the opportunity to take up this sponsorship. However, we have an outstanding partner in Blue Square and we felt it was very much in APAT members interests that we took a long term view, taking current market conditions into account, when finalising our partner base for Season Three.
So, I"m pleased to confirm Blue Square as APAT's headline sponsor in Season Three. They have cut their marketing spend back significantly elsewhere so it is a real sign of the determination on both sides to continue on from Season Two.
With the exception of the National Qualifying series, I believe that Season Three is a significant step forward on Season Two and I hope you all enjoy it.
Unfortunately, I don"t think there was much choice.....
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 22:19:22 PM
Online National Teams - how do you decide what "club" you represent, is this set by location or can you choose your own ?
We have a couple of weeks to sort out the detailed conditions around this, but my own feeling is that players should be required to play for the closest club to them. This should avoid a situation where several established players decide they all want to play for Thanet or similar.
It will also make a conversion to a live National League in Season Four a much greater reality.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 27, 2008, 22:19:47 PM
As everyone will know, there is a great deal of caution evident in UK business at the moment and as a result, marketing spend at every level is being examined extremely closely.
Yep, point taken, but with no regionals and an online buy-in above my usual limits, unfortunately, I currently struggling to see where my APAT involvement will be is season 3. Oh dear. APAT have been in negotiations with Blue Square for several months on the make up of Season Three and as a result of developments in the last couple of weeks, we have taken the decision to put two significant APAT initiatives on hold for for the new season.
Included within this was the National Qualifying series, which was set to replace the Regional Championship in Season Two. So, effectively the local level £20 events will disappear for Season Three, effectively a victim of the credit crunch.
APAT has had many approaches from competitors to Blue Square, who would have welcomed the opportunity to take up this sponsorship. However, we have an outstanding partner in Blue Square and we felt it was very much in APAT members interests that we took a long term view, taking current market conditions into account, when finalising our partner base for Season Three.
So, I"m pleased to confirm Blue Square as APAT's headline sponsor in Season Three. They have cut their marketing spend back significantly elsewhere so it is a real sign of the determination on both sides to continue on from Season Two.
With the exception of the National Qualifying series, I believe that Season Three is a significant step forward on Season Two and I hope you all enjoy it.
Unfortunately, I don"t think there was much choice.....
No regionals and an online buy-in of $82.50? Looks like my season three involvement will be limited at best. Oh dear
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: jacklevel06 on December 27, 2008, 22:20:51 PM
As everyone will know, there is a great deal of caution evident in UK business at the moment and as a result, marketing spend at every level is being examined extremely closely.
Yep, point taken, but with no regionals and an online buy-in above my usual limits, unfortunately, I currently struggling to see where my APAT involvement will be is season 3. Oh dear. APAT have been in negotiations with Blue Square for several months on the make up of Season Three and as a result of developments in the last couple of weeks, we have taken the decision to put two significant APAT initiatives on hold for for the new season.
Included within this was the National Qualifying series, which was set to replace the Regional Championship in Season Two. So, effectively the local level £20 events will disappear for Season Three, effectively a victim of the credit crunch.
APAT has had many approaches from competitors to Blue Square, who would have welcomed the opportunity to take up this sponsorship. However, we have an outstanding partner in Blue Square and we felt it was very much in APAT members interests that we took a long term view, taking current market conditions into account, when finalising our partner base for Season Three.
So, I"m pleased to confirm Blue Square as APAT's headline sponsor in Season Three. They have cut their marketing spend back significantly elsewhere so it is a real sign of the determination on both sides to continue on from Season Two.
With the exception of the National Qualifying series, I believe that Season Three is a significant step forward on Season Two and I hope you all enjoy it.
Unfortunately, I don"t think there was much choice.....
On the contrary, there was always choice. I feel we made the right one under the circumstances. Under different circumstances we would have chosen differently.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Waz1892 on December 27, 2008, 22:21:48 PM
Online National Teams - how do you decide what "club" you represent, is this set by location or can you choose your own ?
We have a couple of weeks to sort out the detailed conditions around this, but my own feeling is that players should be required to play for the closest club to them. This should avoid a situation where several established players decide they all want to play for Thanet or similar.
It will also make a conversion to a live National League in Season Four a much greater reality.
think this is a must..as it"ll stop some clicky (end up being a forum league) groups arranging to join one "club"..but hard to manage i guess either way
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 22:23:54 PM
Would you be asked to pledge allegiance to one of the regional teams upon registering for an online event?
We will have a page on the APAT site dedicated to registering for a team in the National League. This will be up in early January with the league starting on February 1st.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Newportlad on December 27, 2008, 22:24:11 PM
Will the online events be password protected?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 22:25:07 PM
The Online National Championship events will be extremely deepstacked affairs so Saturday became the most obvious dates for them.
This does make sense, possibly these could be on a Sunday, as you said, Sunday is the main poker day of the week, with most sites with their biggest tournaments starting early"ish on a Sunday..
The National League games will be shorter affairs and lent themselves to a Sunday evening, which seems to be recognised as the main poker night of the weeks. That said, we will listed to feedback and it is very possible to move the National League to a weekday night, but we"d need to see a lot of support for it.
With the format being shorter affairs, i suppose the option to move them to week day nights is available, and imo possibly a benefit, but i may be wrong.
Its a selfish opinion by me, as i generally work weekends, so finding time for Manchester, Bolton and deffo DTD will be like getting blood out of a stone, so missing the online games is a double blow..
Congrats on the schedule Des, im sure a lot of hard work has had to go into it, and a big thanks to blue square for their continued support of APAT.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: TopPair2Pair on December 27, 2008, 22:26:31 PM
These were me banker for season 3 with a view to tackling a few nationals if I get lucky. Was even going to drive up to DTD from Essex for the events! ahhhhhhh
Can"t really justify the travel+accom+£75 for nationals given my lack of live experience!!! boo hoo
:"( :"( :"( :"(
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 22:26:47 PM
As everyone will know, there is a great deal of caution evident in UK business at the moment and as a result, marketing spend at every level is being examined extremely closely.
Yep, point taken, but with no regionals and an online buy-in above my usual limits, unfortunately, I currently struggling to see where my APAT involvement will be is season 3. Oh dear. APAT have been in negotiations with Blue Square for several months on the make up of Season Three and as a result of developments in the last couple of weeks, we have taken the decision to put two significant APAT initiatives on hold for for the new season.
Included within this was the National Qualifying series, which was set to replace the Regional Championship in Season Two. So, effectively the local level £20 events will disappear for Season Three, effectively a victim of the credit crunch.
APAT has had many approaches from competitors to Blue Square, who would have welcomed the opportunity to take up this sponsorship. However, we have an outstanding partner in Blue Square and we felt it was very much in APAT members interests that we took a long term view, taking current market conditions into account, when finalising our partner base for Season Three.
So, I"m pleased to confirm Blue Square as APAT's headline sponsor in Season Three. They have cut their marketing spend back significantly elsewhere so it is a real sign of the determination on both sides to continue on from Season Two.
With the exception of the National Qualifying series, I believe that Season Three is a significant step forward on Season Two and I hope you all enjoy it.
Unfortunately, I don"t think there was much choice.....
No regionals and an online buy-in of $82.50? Looks like my season three involvement will be limited at best. Oh dear
The National League will have a buy in of $10 + $1 and it is highly likely there will be a community tournament along the lines of the online series weekly.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Waz1892 on December 27, 2008, 22:26:56 PM
great season 3 prospects..intial thoughts..shame regional have gone, but take up wasn"t as hoped i"ve no doubt?...
my only comment, is at a time of tight money (credit crunch, call it what you will)..online has gone from $10/$20 to $80+..and now live events are not local and $80 +
at a time of belts tighten..APAT have raised the cost of poker for the majority of its members it holds dear
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: SirPercival on December 27, 2008, 22:27:18 PM
Read it quickly once through - don"t understand the detail yet but first reaction is.......
Well done Des and the team. Pure dead brilliant!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 27, 2008, 22:28:25 PM
Just one point from me,
will there be a nice little at a glace schedule with everything on.
Just so I don"t get confused - that happens often.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: SirPercival on December 27, 2008, 22:29:07 PM
great season 3 prospects..intial thoughts..shame regional have gone, but take up wasn"t as hoped i"ve no doubt?...
my only comment, is at a time of tight money (credit crunch, call it what you will)..online has gone from $10/$20 to $80+..and now live events are not local and $80 +
at a time of belts tighten..APAT have raised the cost of poker for the majority of its members it holds dear
Fair comments. We"d rather have kept the Regional venues in play but that would have been extremely difficult with Blue Square. The Online National Championship events are each a one off and the National League will be the focus of the ongoing community and chat for the coming season. We think the team element will add to that and build upon what the Online Series offered in S2. The buy in to those events is $10 + $1, so no change there. There will be a better range of satellites into the live and online National Championship events, so hopefully more opportunities for people to gain seats more cost efficiently.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 22:33:30 PM
my only comment, is at a time of tight money (credit crunch, call it what you will)..online has gone from $10/$20 to $80+..and now live events are not local and $80 +
I"m pretty sure I read that there were low cost sats into the online nationals as well....
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 22:34:32 PM
my only comment, is at a time of tight money (credit crunch, call it what you will)..online has gone from $10/$20 to $80+..and now live events are not local and $80 +
I"m pretty sure I read that there were low cost sats into the online nationals as well....
good point well made...and im certainly not "moaning" as the whole APAT is simply brilliant, and has helped my game no end..and will contiue to do so ive no doubt...i will play as much as i can trust me!!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 27, 2008, 22:46:22 PM
Is there something going on ? or have i been asleep for too long ?
Welcome to the party Ger ;D
eh ! oh right season 4 is announced right -- ok trying to find it now
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: mike saban on December 27, 2008, 22:46:36 PM
ok, read the schedule about 6 times now, and its starting to sink in.
I think the one disappointment for me, like others is the lack of regionals as was hoping to hit these on a regular basis, however there"s a lot to make up for that, and quite excited by the online "club" games and also hope to make a roll on bsq to regularly play in the online championships too.
Once again some great prizes, especially with the club online games, and I think its a great idea about the 4 winners giving a cut to other point scorers should they cash, and pretty impressive with the GUKPT champion of champion seats for the live games.
I"m sure there will be further questions, regarding the live team comps, but plenty of time for that.
So thanks for announcing the brief tonight Des, and good luck all for season 3, hope to see you on the road / online.
Mike
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: WarBwastardo on December 27, 2008, 22:49:07 PM
my only comment, is at a time of tight money (credit crunch, call it what you will)..online has gone from $10/$20 to $80+..and now live events are not local and $80 +
I"m pretty sure I read that there were low cost sats into the online nationals as well....
good point well made...and im certainly not "moaning" as the whole APAT is simply brilliant, and has helped my game no end..and will contiue to do so ive no doubt...i will play as much as i can trust me!!
I didn"t play the online games..but you were paying $80 a month for online games if you played all of them I think weren"t you? It"s the same outlay for season 3 just one bigger game instead of 8 almost piddly ones.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: mike saban on December 27, 2008, 22:50:46 PM
Forgot to add - thanks to all the APAT team for all the hard work in getting this arranged.
Mike
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 27, 2008, 22:52:18 PM
my only comment, is at a time of tight money (credit crunch, call it what you will)..online has gone from $10/$20 to $80+..and now live events are not local and $80 +
I"m pretty sure I read that there were low cost sats into the online nationals as well....
good point well made...and im certainly not "moaning" as the whole APAT is simply brilliant, and has helped my game no end..and will contiue to do so ive no doubt...i will play as much as i can trust me!!
I don"t think anyone has taken the points made as moaning.
I know that a lot of people are disappointed at the lack of Regionals etc, believe me, myself and other regional managers are just as disappointed. However, under the circumstances, APAT still has a lot to offer and entertain its members.
I do know that Des has done an awful lot of work behind the scenes, to put together the schedule that we have, and I for one would like to thank him for all the hard work that he has put into this.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 27, 2008, 22:53:02 PM
sorry is there something i should know about ?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: kinboshi on December 27, 2008, 22:55:21 PM
At first glance, looks like an improvement to me.
The online events are now "events". They have qualifiers, and are now meaningful tournaments that people will look forward to. Saturday night won"t be suitable to all (not sure that they"ll be any good for me), but they have to be on one night of the week and whichever night it"s on it"s not going to suit everyone.
The nationals looks excellent, and again are the Blue Riband events for APAT (as they should be). The addition of DTD to the schedule makes perfect sense (as all who have played there will testify).
The lack of regionals is a shame, BUT - I don"t think they were right last year. Some regionals were better organised than others, and some casinos took them more seriously (or were able to host them better than others). Basically, it was outside APAT's control how good they were. It also appeared that the casinos (i.e. Grosvenor) couldn"t dedicate the staff and resources that were initially promised to these events. In the end, they weren"t all proper "APAT" events. So although their ommission leaves a hole, I"m not sure it"s an APAT-sized hole that"s left.
Need to read up on the regional stuff, as at first glance it"s a little confusing.
Des and the gang - great work yet again. Roll on Season 3...
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: duke3016 on December 27, 2008, 22:57:29 PM
sorry -- will someone tell me what"s going on -- is it the second coming ?
edit : nice schedule by the way
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: WarBwastardo on December 27, 2008, 22:57:45 PM
My initial two penneth is that as I"m not an online player ..unless Blue Square can develop a mac friendly poker site in the next few weeks...it"s a case of as you were from season 2. Which is great. I love the live national events and will make attempts to play them all this time around. Especially looking forward to the DTD events assuming they"re confirmed as a venue.
Shame the regional live events have been lost, but since I live in Oxford I won"t miss traveling 60+ miles to play a self-dealt £20 freeze-out. Look forward to seeing everyone in Walsall. Thanks to Des et al for putting together another season.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 27, 2008, 22:57:53 PM
Pretty schedule would be nice, please.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 27, 2008, 22:59:46 PM
Quote
Shame the regional live events have been lost, but since I live in Oxford I won"t miss traveling 60+ miles to play a self-dealt £20 freeze-out.
Isn"t early stages of the wsop self deal? :)
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Waz1892 on December 27, 2008, 23:01:05 PM
my only comment, is at a time of tight money (credit crunch, call it what you will)..online has gone from $10/$20 to $80+..and now live events are not local and $80 +
I"m pretty sure I read that there were low cost sats into the online nationals as well....
good point well made...and im certainly not "moaning" as the whole APAT is simply brilliant, and has helped my game no end..and will contiue to do so ive no doubt...i will play as much as i can trust me!!
I do know that Des has done an awful lot of work behind the scenes, to put together the schedule that we have, and I for one would like to thank him for all the hard work that he has put into this.
defo thanks for the all hard and dedicated work that has been put in..and why i don"t like to put negatives before any positives..just was passing my views, which i know are taken on baord as all comment are.
just great stuff all around, and warbas" point on $80 per month is fair play
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: tumblet on December 27, 2008, 23:02:45 PM
The online events are now "events". They have qualifiers, and are now meaningful tournaments that people will look forward to. Saturday night won"t be suitable to all (not sure that they"ll be any good for me), but they have to be on one night of the week and whichever night it"s on it"s not going to suit everyone.
The nationals looks excellent, and again are the Blue Riband events for APAT (as they should be). The addition of DTD to the schedule makes perfect sense (as all who have played there will testify).
The lack of regionals is a shame, BUT - I don"t think they were right last year. Some regionals were better organised than others, and some casinos took them more seriously (or were able to host them better than others). Basically, it was outside APAT's control how good they were. It also appeared that the casinos (i.e. Grosvenor) couldn"t dedicate the staff and resources that were initially promised to these events. In the end, they weren"t all proper "APAT" events. So although their ommission leaves a hole, I"m not sure it"s an APAT-sized hole that"s left.
Need to read up on the regional stuff, as at first glance it"s a little confusing.
Des and the gang - great work yet again. Roll on Season 3...
Daniel speaks sense.[FML]
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 27, 2008, 23:06:12 PM
Looks really good so far, will read again when sober. ;D
Me 2
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: MAIR on December 27, 2008, 23:07:10 PM
Once again you have outdone yourselves, Des and crew. The schedule looks fantastic and the additional online events are just fab and I very much look forward to participating.
Fantastic work all of you and I look forward to S3.
One thing I noticed is that you have not named one UK Forum Team Championship but UK Amateur Team Championship, is this to replace the Forum one and will the teams be made up of any team of individuals or will it be forums only?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 23:08:57 PM
If anyone has not voted in the APAT Awards, now is a good time to do so as voting closes tomorrow.
Several award nominations are separated by one or two votes so your thoughts will count.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?board=29.0
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 23:10:20 PM
Once again you have outdone yourselves, Des and crew. The schedule looks fantastic and the additional online events are just fab and I very much look forward to participating.
Fantastic work all of you and I look forward to S3.
One thing I noticed is that you have not named one UK Forum Team Championship but UK Amateur Team Championship, is this to replace the Forum one and will the teams be made up of any team of individuals or will it be forums only?
Thanks Mary. The UK Team Championship is the same (I think it was called this during Season Two also) and it will be aimed at teams from forums once again.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: technolog on December 27, 2008, 23:13:31 PM
Did APAT intercept my letter to Santa as the Season 3 briefing is pretty much a straight rip-off of what I wanted!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: TightEnd on December 27, 2008, 23:15:32 PM
Did APAT intercept my letter to Santa as the Season 3 briefing is pretty much a straight rip-off of what I wanted!
Santa Duffy and Elf Tighty listened, read, digested and followed Scooby!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 27, 2008, 23:17:43 PM
Have I missed all the fun ?
;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 27, 2008, 23:24:45 PM
Gutted there are no regionals, they were the bread and butter of APATs live poker, at a low low buy in. The Nationals look great and with satellites in make them atainable at a low buy in, but how many will be left to buy in to? Little bit confused about the club thing, is it live or on line, and if live, then where? I know, the staging is difficult, but as a sportsman Saturday nights are lousy for me, particularly in the summer, and I can"t play the first on line in Jan cos of a family bash, so a bit pi**ed off about that. I thank Des and the team for all their efforts, but at the moment having read through twice, I am left feeling a bit disappointed, for me the live side of the game was what APAT was all about, and at the moment that seems to have been reduced? Am I right? Or not? Been on the booze since 4, can"t actually believe I have managed to type this!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 27, 2008, 23:25:32 PM
Aye, I noticed how you and Neil slunk off just before the announcement.... :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: jacklevel06 on December 27, 2008, 23:34:05 PM
Right my small brain has managed to comprehend some of season 3 schedule.I think the online series is fabulous.I know the higher buy in wont suit all ,but with sats it should make it worthwhile ,and not just a low buy in donk fest (which come to think about it i"m quite good at) ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: technolog on December 27, 2008, 23:35:24 PM
How is the winning club decided in the National League final? Is it the club the individual winner belongs to or are points awarded for places 1 to 9 as in the fortnightly constituent events?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Hammerheid on December 27, 2008, 23:39:55 PM
excellent schedule Des and team , just a couple of Q"s
1) WCOAP 3 day main event - is this a day 1a and 1b followed by a final day 2 or a srtaight 3 day event ( possible if at DTD )
2) APAT National Online League -
There will be a total of twenty rounds in the National League, with the top three clubs in each division; and the highest scoring non qualifying club, going forward to compete in the National League final on November 14th.
call me thick ( and i know some of u will) but im assumiing this will still be online
p.s posting is courtesy of Stella Artois
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 23:40:10 PM
Gutted there are no regionals, they were the bread and butter of APATs live poker, at a low low buy in. The Nationals look great and with satellites in make them atainable at a low buy in, but how many will be left to buy in to? Little bit confused about the club thing, is it live or on line, and if live, then where? I know, the staging is difficult, but as a sportsman Saturday nights are lousy for me, particularly in the summer, and I can"t play the first on line in Jan cos of a family bash, so a bit pi**ed off about that. I thank Des and the team for all their efforts, but at the moment having read through twice, I am left feeling a bit disappointed, for me the live side of the game was what APAT was all about, and at the moment that seems to have been reduced? Am I right? Or not? Been on the booze since 4, can"t actually believe I have managed to type this!
I think we"ve covered off the regionals elsewhere Mike, and yes, we"d rather have had them in and we had some significant developments on last year planned, but we had to readdress our plans due to market conditions. Personally, I think the Regionals worked well at some venues last year and not so well at others. It was always a concern for me that they lacked a number of the qualities that make APAT events special, but that said, I don"t for a minute doubt that they will come back in the new format, but we, like everyone else in the industry, will have to tighten our belt in the interim.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 23:41:28 PM
How is the winning club decided in the National League final? Is it the club the individual winner belongs to or are points awarded for places 1 to 9 as in the fortnightly constituent events?
It will be points based in the final also Jack.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on December 27, 2008, 23:41:32 PM
Gutted there are no regionals, they were the bread and butter of APATs live poker, at a low low buy in.
I disagree.
The regionals "could" have been the bread and butter for APAT. But they weren"t. Many were self-deal, which is far from the APAT ideal. Some were very badly run, others were brilliantly run. But variance is not what APAT is trying to achieve. I don"t think the casinos were ready for what APAT wanted to deliver. From what Des is delivering for Season 3, it appears that the sponsor is thinking along the same lines.
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The Nationals look great and with satellites in make them atainable at a low buy in, but how many will be left to buy in to?
It"ll be like Season 1 again. If you want to play, you CAN get a seat. It just depends how much you want a seat. Yes, it might mean some are disappointed, but that"s the case no matter how the seats are allocated if the demand outweighs the availability.
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Little bit confused about the club thing, is it live or on line, and if live, then where?
I need to re-read this again as well.
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I know, the staging is difficult, but as a sportsman Saturday nights are lousy for me, particularly in the summer, and I can"t play the first on line in Jan cos of a family bash, so a bit pi**ed off about that.
For some, week nights are no good. For some Saturdays are no good. For others, Sundays aren"t any better. I don"t think that Saturdays are ideal for me - but I think that they are good for the vast majority. Sunday would arguably be better, but APAT have gone for Saturdays - and that"s the day they"ll be held. I think I"ll have to miss a few unfortunately, but that"s how it will be.
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I thank Des and the team for all their efforts, but at the moment having read through twice, I am left feeling a bit disappointed, for me the live side of the game was what APAT was all about, and at the moment that seems to have been reduced? Am I right? Or not? Been on the booze since 4, can"t actually believe I have managed to type this!
I think the Nationals are what APAT was (and still is) about. The regionals would be part of this in an ideal world, but they didn"t quite hit the mark or reach the APAT standard in Season 2. Like I"ve said previously, some of the venues held regionals that were worthy of the APAT ideal - but many others weren"t.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 23:43:12 PM
excellent schedule Des and team , just a couple of Q"s
1) WCOAP 3 day main event - is this a day 1a and 1b followed by a final day 2 or a srtaight 3 day event ( possible if at DTD )
2) APAT National Online League -
There will be a total of twenty rounds in the National League, with the top three clubs in each division; and the highest scoring non qualifying club, going forward to compete in the National League final on November 14th.
call me thick ( and i know some of u will) but im assumiing this will still be online
p.s posting is courtesy of Stella Artois
lol....thanks Stan (and Stella :D).
1) Discussions still being had with DTD on this. It depends on how big both parties want the event to be.
2) Still online, yep.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 27, 2008, 23:45:59 PM
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Little bit confused about the club thing, is it live or on line, and if live, then where?
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I need to re-read this again as well.
This will be played online.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Dewi_cool on December 27, 2008, 23:46:53 PM
Gutted there are no regionals, they were the bread and butter of APATs live poker, at a low low buy in.
I disagree.
The regionals "could" have been the bread and butter for APAT. But they weren"t. Many were self-deal, which is far from the APAT ideal. Some were very badly run, others were brilliantly run. But variance is not what APAT is trying to achieve. I don"t think the casinos were ready for what APAT wanted to deliver. From what Des is delivering for Season 3, it appears that the sponsor is thinking along the same lines.
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The Nationals look great and with satellites in make them atainable at a low buy in, but how many will be left to buy in to?
It"ll be like Season 1 again. If you want to play, you CAN get a seat. It just depends how much you want a seat. Yes, it might mean some are disappointed, but that"s the case no matter how the seats are allocated if the demand outweighs the availability.
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Little bit confused about the club thing, is it live or on line, and if live, then where?
I need to re-read this again as well.
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I know, the staging is difficult, but as a sportsman Saturday nights are lousy for me, particularly in the summer, and I can"t play the first on line in Jan cos of a family bash, so a bit pi**ed off about that.
For some, week nights are no good. For some Saturdays are no good. For others, Sundays aren"t any better. I don"t think that Saturdays are ideal for me - but I think that they are good for the vast majority. Sunday would arguably be better, but APAT have gone for Saturdays - and that"s the day they"ll be held. I think I"ll have to miss a few unfortunately, but that"s how it will be.
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I thank Des and the team for all their efforts, but at the moment having read through twice, I am left feeling a bit disappointed, for me the live side of the game was what APAT was all about, and at the moment that seems to have been reduced? Am I right? Or not? Been on the booze since 4, can"t actually believe I have managed to type this!
I think the Nationals are what APAT was (and still is) about. The regionals would be part of this in an ideal world, but they didn"t quite hit the mark or reach the APAT standard in Season 2. Like I"ve said previously, some of the venues held regionals that were worthy of the APAT ideal - but many others weren"t.
I hate saying this, but I have to agree with Daniel, & I think this is the best Des & team can deliver to keep most happy, under the current circumstances. tx
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 27, 2008, 23:48:09 PM
Gutted there are no regionals, they were the bread and butter of APATs live poker, at a low low buy in.
I disagree.
The regionals "could" have been the bread and butter for APAT. But they weren"t. Many were self-deal, which is far from the APAT ideal. Some were very badly run, others were brilliantly run. But variance is not what APAT is trying to achieve. I don"t think the casinos were ready for what APAT wanted to deliver. [b]From what Des is delivering for Season 3, it appears that the sponsor is thinking along the same lines.[/b]
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The Nationals look great and with satellites in make them atainable at a low buy in, but how many will be left to buy in to?
It"ll be like Season 1 again. If you want to play, you CAN get a seat. It just depends how much you want a seat. Yes, it might mean some are disappointed, but that"s the case no matter how the seats are allocated if the demand outweighs the availability.
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Little bit confused about the club thing, is it live or on line, and if live, then where?
I need to re-read this again as well.
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I know, the staging is difficult, but as a sportsman Saturday nights are lousy for me, particularly in the summer, and I can"t play the first on line in Jan cos of a family bash, so a bit pi**ed off about that.
For some, week nights are no good. For some Saturdays are no good. For others, Sundays aren"t any better. I don"t think that Saturdays are ideal for me - but I think that they are good for the vast majority. Sunday would arguably be better, but APAT have gone for Saturdays - and that"s the day they"ll be held. I think I"ll have to miss a few unfortunately, but that"s how it will be.
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I thank Des and the team for all their efforts, but at the moment having read through twice, I am left feeling a bit disappointed, for me the live side of the game was what APAT was all about, and at the moment that seems to have been reduced? Am I right? Or not? Been on the booze since 4, can"t actually believe I have managed to type this!
I think the Nationals are what APAT was (and still is) about. The regionals would be part of this in an ideal world, but they didn"t quite hit the mark or reach the APAT standard in Season 2. Like I"ve said previously, some of the venues held regionals that were worthy of the APAT ideal - but many others weren"t.
This all changed just over a week ago. The sponsor and all of the cardrooms were more than happy to include the National Qualifying series in place of the Regional Championship. The new Managing Director cut the marketing budgets considerably and in line with this APAT recommended its preferred way forward.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: WarBwastardo on December 27, 2008, 23:48:42 PM
How is the winning club decided in the National League final? Is it the club the individual winner belongs to or are points awarded for places 1 to 9 as in the fortnightly constituent events?
Jack,
It"s based on the 1 to 9 system, with the winning team coming from the Southern Division, obviously. ;D
Leigh
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 27, 2008, 23:50:21 PM
Woot woot! Sorry, I"ve been at a pal"s party and missed most of the fun.
Here now to catch up.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 27, 2008, 23:52:23 PM
How is the winning club decided in the National League final? Is it the club the individual winner belongs to or are points awarded for places 1 to 9 as in the fortnightly constituent events?
Jack,
It"s based on the 1 to 9 system, with the winning team coming from the Southern Division, obviously. ;D
Leigh
Cough, sorry....?
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 28, 2008, 00:03:43 AM
Shame the regional live events have been lost, but since I live in Oxford I won"t miss traveling 60+ miles to play a self-dealt £20 freeze-out.
Back to this, i just think you might find that most live poker tourneys are self deal one way or another - no matter how far you travel. Just used wsop as an example is all. :-*
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Newportlad on December 28, 2008, 00:06:08 AM
Why do you think WSOP is self deal???
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 28, 2008, 00:09:08 AM
I would guess this means some of the super sats at the Rio. The bracelet events themselves are not self deal.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: WarBwastardo on December 28, 2008, 00:23:07 AM
Self dealt games in casinos are my biggest poker peeve so my live casino pokering is restricted to trips to DTD and APAT nationals. I know DTD isn"t a casino but you know what I mean.
I played in a tournament at Blackpool"s G-Casino a few weeks ago. Only 16 runners and yet it was self-dealt. The place was deserted, none of the black-jack dealers were occupied, yet they couldn"t find two dealers for us. Shocking scenes. Shocking shocking shocking. I emailed Barack Obama about this cause he"s the king of everywhere now, but have yet to receive a reply.
The end.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 28, 2008, 00:28:02 AM
I emailed Barack Obama about this cause he"s the king of everywhere now, but have yet to receive a reply.
The end.
He has been busy on MSN with me this evening. He can"t decide whether to represent Southampton or Brighton for season 3. I"ve told him to sleep on it and go with where he feels most at home.
Either way it"s Southern Division ftw.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: George2Loose on December 28, 2008, 00:29:50 AM
Are the national fields still going to be capped with seats attained thru clicketh festeth?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 28, 2008, 00:31:05 AM
Are the national fields still going to be capped with seats attained thru clicketh festeth?
No, we"re going to sell the seats online ::)
No pros by the way! ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Swinebag on December 28, 2008, 00:39:51 AM
Just got in from "wow"ing at the plans for my cricket clubs new ground (whilst having a few guinness and a cheeky 5 handed STT) and I come home to this...
All I can say is "wow" again.
I wont miss the regionals as they were too crap shooty, had no dealers and had IMO an unfair points system towards the national rankings. Having said that, a lot of people will (it seems) miss them and it did create some great social occasions. Overall, I do agree with what Dan posted on this though.
As for the Online series, this is a massive improvement IMO on last season and hopefully they will be seen as proper "events" that carry more prestige. Last season had too many tourneys at too low a buy in (compared to the Nationals) and the turnouts were poor given the number of members APAT has. It remains to be seen what a $75 + $7.50 online tourney will bring in terms of numbers, but in terms of overall outlay it is pretty much the same as Season 2. The lower buy in satellites are also a great way to get bankrolls of all sizes involved in the online series and that is a good thing too IMO
The nationals seem to be "same old same old" but TBH very little is needed in the way of improving these. The only thing people wanted here was antes, and not only do we have them but we have a 500/1000 level and a 45 min clock. Its like asking for S4 of the sopranos for christmas and getting S5 and S6 thrown in too!! Not only that, but the variety of satellite buy in will include a wider range of bankroll too.
I know a lot of people are inconvenienced by timings and dates for season 3 (saturday is not a good day for me) but that is too bad. As Dan said, You could pick any day of the week and it would be inconvenient for a lot of members. You could pick a mixture of days and this would still not be suitable for a lot of members. At the end of the day, APAT have picked the dates, we now have a calendar, so its up to us to fit our lives around it....if we choose.
My penultimate point on what is a bit of a drunken post should be that we should extend a massive vote of thanks to BSQ for sponsoring APAT. Say what you like about the software but you will be hard pressed to find a sponsor that is so committed to Amateur live poker and helping to bridge the gap with the Pros. A lot of players have had significant success in GUKPT, WSOP, GCPT,(and EPT??) where APAT have given them that helping nudge along the way. This would not have been possible without a committed sponsor.
Lastly.....
.......Thanks Des and APAT
Looking forward to this...bring it on
Title: Re: Season Three Briefing
Post by: lukybugur on December 28, 2008, 00:45:49 AM
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 28, 2008, 01:15:21 AM
Not a very well disguised brag post ,but when myself and Eck were at the wsop,all tables had dealers.Then again i had one or two corona"s. :).I could be wrong
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: WarBwastardo on December 28, 2008, 01:31:07 AM
Not a very well disguised brag post ,but when myself and Eck were at the wsop,all tables had dealers.Then again i had one or two corona"s. :).I could be wrong
Thinly veiled I"m almost never wrong post.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Jon MW on December 28, 2008, 01:32:29 AM
Not a very well disguised brag post ,but when myself and Eck were at the wsop,all tables had dealers.Then again i had one or two corona"s. :).I could be wrong
nope, I don"t recall any self deal tables at the WSOP
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 28, 2008, 01:36:51 AM
Just remember watching highlights of some older wsop"s 2000 - 2005 and seeing even little iddy biddy tables too, mind I was smoking at the time so maybe I am wrong.
Never mind it happens often.
By the way are we gonna get a nice and pretty schedule, you know everything in date order on one page just so it can be observed nicely.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 28, 2008, 02:08:03 AM
Just remember watching highlights of some older wsop"s 2000 - 2005 and seeing even little iddy biddy tables too, mind I was smoking at the time so maybe I am wrong.
Never mind it happens often.
By the way are we gonna get a nice and pretty schedule, you know everything in date order on one page just so it can be observed nicely.
Try clicking the "Tour" button above, or for speed, just click this:
Season Three National Schedule (http://www.apat.com/schedule_S3_National.php)
Here is a promo banner from the home page:
(http://www.apat.com/Event_Ad_Vertical_UK.gif)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Kinester on December 28, 2008, 03:36:49 AM
I"m not too sure if i like it.... I liked the £20 buy in"s
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Kinester on December 28, 2008, 03:46:13 AM
$75 online tourneys, well done....
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Santino67 on December 28, 2008, 08:51:10 AM
I"ll miss the regional qualifiers, not just because that was my first experience fo APAT but much more sociable than on-line.
Still, a good line-up and hopefully not too much clashing with my hols to Australia.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CanUK on December 28, 2008, 09:39:45 AM
No regionals. BOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Something that I was looking forward to as a NEW player to the APAT.
OK as a new player, how do I register for these live events. Online, via phone, on the day?
Please help.....
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 28, 2008, 09:41:28 AM
To summarise; If you have no interest in trying to Satellite in, you can join the ClickFest at 9pm on 15th January for the UK Amateur Poker Championship. This is a "fastest-finger-first" race for the remaining seats and is usually a button that appears on the home page of this website dead on 9pm.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: bigalhx3 on December 28, 2008, 09:42:24 AM
I hate saying this, but I have to agree with Daniel...
Quoted for future reference.
for future ref; I"m pissed
never thought you would not be pissed at 11.46pm on a saturday night your quote still stands
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: nosey-p on December 28, 2008, 09:51:19 AM
I have read this now 5 times and I think I have got my head around it.
First of all, thank you Des and the rest of APAT for season 2 and the hard work you have put into season 3
The nationals don't need to be touch, but you have, and they are better. Extra level, longer clock and antes. This is a step forward.
Online national is a big step forward. This series is now an "event" it now as a purpose. Bigger buy in with satellites so people with small back rolls can still compete.
Keeping the two apart is also good (in terms of ranking points)
Online league, now this is were a struggle. If I have read this right, it looks like there are 2 leagues in one. First of all you have to come in the top 4 in your poker club then your club as to come in the top 3 in your division (yes/no). So if you are in a club of 30 then it will be harder to come in the top 4 but your club will have a bigger chance in a top 3 finish than a club of 10. If you are in a club of 10 then you have a better chance of getting in the top 4 but your club as a disadvantage in getting in the top 3 (yes/no).
The loss of the regionals is a disappointment, but hopefully they will be back in season 4
As for the games being on a Saturday and Sunday night, well they have to be on 1 of the 7 nights so why not a Saturday and Sunday. You will always have people for and against no matter which night you play on.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CanUK on December 28, 2008, 09:57:05 AM
To summarise; If you have no interest in trying to Satellite in, you can join the ClickFest at 9pm on 15th January for the UK Amateur Poker Championship. This is a "fastest-finger-first" race for the remaining seats and is usually a button that appears on the home page of this website dead on 9pm.
As a new guy this does not seem fair. With out regionals it will be harder for us new players to get in these bigger events
How many people do they alow to play. (Field Size?)
Anyway, I will give it ago.
The regionals gave us new players a chance to ease into the APAT. This year it seem like they are not catering to us new players, and that is too bad.
Thanks for the info..
Sean Kachmarski
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 28, 2008, 10:06:52 AM
It makes no difference if you"re a new player or "old" player Sean.
Due to the economic downturn, the effects of which are being felt at Grosvenor / BlueSq, the Regionals had to be removed from our Schedule. In showing our support to our Sponsor, we will now run alternative Qualifying Tournaments Online (on BlueSq) at Buy-Ins to suit all - $5, $10 and $20.
"Three satellites will be made available at Blue Square in the run up to all National Championship events. There will be a Monday $20 + $2 freezeout, a Tuesday $10 + $1 freezeout and a Wednesday $5 + $0.50 rebuy. Non allocated seats will be sold directly to players on a Thursday evening. All dates will be updated on the APAT site in the next 24 hours."
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: bigalhx3 on December 28, 2008, 10:07:06 AM
like the new season looks better the ranking are better with just the big comps the only way of getting points as last season people getting point in the regional was not the best as some had more people depending which casino you was in. i think moving from thursday to saturday and sunday are better and with 10k chips and a $75 will make them very good comps
am i to take it that there will be no clickfest this season for the nationals and you will just register online on blusq
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 28, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
ClickFests will still be available;
Sentence above refers to it;
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Non allocated seats will be sold directly to players on a Thursday evening.
Dates for these ClickFests can be found on the far right column of this page; http://www.apat.com/schedule_S3_National.php
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 28, 2008, 10:13:40 AM
How many people do they alow to play. (Field Size?)
Generally, field size is limited to 200, but there are a few exceptions - at DTD it may well increase, and in Edinburgh and Dublin it will probably be around 150. We"ll probably find that maybe around 30% of the seats will be taken up by sats, the rest will be available via the online "clickfest".
How do you join a poker club for the online National league?
Neil, Leigh and I are still in discussion over this. We"ll hopefully publish something around the New Year - and before anyone asks, New Year 2009 !
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 28, 2008, 10:55:28 AM
Well done to Des and everyone involved in organising it. I"m really looking forward to taking part in most, if not all, of the events...
* I"m not really bothered by the loss of the regional qualifiers for the reasons that Daniel gave - some weren"t as well organised as others etc.
* I"m really looking forward to the WCOAP Omaha event and the WCOAP Main Event at DTD - think it would be really good if there was two starting days like has been mentioned as a possibility as this would give even more players the chance to play in the event, leave less people disappointed and make for a juicy prize pool.
* Another thing that was mentioned before (not sure by who) but think it would be good to have the $75 online tournies on a Sunday starting early-ish (6 or 7pm) like the Sunday Majors on other sites. And have the $10 tournies on a weekday instead of a Sunday to suit the people who want weekday games. I"m not bothered either way as will make time for the tournies when I can no matter what day they"re on.
All in all, great schedule - i"m really looking forward to playing as many events as possible and participating in APAT for my first full season...
Thanks again to Des and all involved.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 28, 2008, 11:00:44 AM
Oh and just noticed the Irish National weekend falls on my birthday!!! A nice wee birthday weekend away for me, and the missus can"t moan at me going away to Dublin without her :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 28, 2008, 11:04:47 AM
Will the WCOAP Omaha Championship be a £75 event or £50 again...?
I remember you saying it could be upgraded to full national level in S3 in another thread due to it"s popularity so assuming this means it"s £75? I"m in no matter what!!!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: scouse3465 on December 28, 2008, 11:14:28 AM
happy days !! well done to Des and team quickly scanned this but looks awesome! rushing out to day of drinking and footy so will digeste it tommorrow with hangover lol !! cvome on red men !! beat up the geordies (hopefully) li verpool club team ftw at nationals lol
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: duke3016 on December 28, 2008, 11:17:54 AM
I am awake and now have read it properly
Love it ..... Well done Des & team for what must have been difficult and protracted negotiations
Bring it on, the Duke is coming to get Ya
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 28, 2008, 11:18:43 AM
Okay guys I take on board what you say about the Regionals, it had to be done. But the low buy in to such a good live format was a great introduction to live poker for a lot of people. Okay self dealing wasn"t great, but I think I will stuggle to get some of my mates to pay £75 to an, event where they think they will be outclassed. £20 never scared anyone way, and has seen some good players become APAT regulars. Any way I will still look forward to the Nationals and will play as many as I can, and the same for the online stuff, well done once again to all you guys who put in the hard work, and a big thankyou to BSQ.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Santino67 on December 28, 2008, 11:45:27 AM
Love it ..... Well done Des & team for what must have been difficult and protracted negotiations
Bring it on, the Duke is coming to get Ya
And will Son Of Duke accompany you to any of these Gerry? 8)
Oh yes it will be a family takedown of the live and on-line games --
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Robbiebox on December 28, 2008, 12:08:25 PM
Great work again from the APAT team....I for one like it.
1. Regionals dissapearing seems to be the biggest issue with some and for those that played them I"m sure it is a dissapointment. I personally shared the view that These tourneys were often not run in the APAT way with the same spirit and quality of organisation as I think a lot of Casinos were not prepared to host them in that way.
2. The larger online tourneys does make these events more of an occasion and worth winning, especially with the added prizes. Still after a medal so a bit dissapointed there are not more and it might well put a fair few off having to pay so much extra for a single online tournament.
3. The team championships~ Is it now just a team championships or still forum based? Shame it is not in Blackpool as accomodation and entertainment is perfect for a team event (nothing to do with being my closest casino ;)) Also I think forum debate will lead to the dates being moved, giving up the Xmas w/end for poker is not the way to win the hearts and minds of familys. Mid January would be good.
4. The Cardiff event is scheduled for 4/5 April and clashes with the Virgin Festival. I know there are bound to be clashes along the way, but these two events appeal to a similar section of poker player adn if the Cardiff event is still to be confirmed a change of date could perhaps be possible.
5. The £100 World 3 day event, if this is 3 seperate days will it be a different structure ( eg more chips, longer clock, extra levels etc)?
All-in all great stuff, sure im not the only one looking forward to it !
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: janc on December 28, 2008, 12:10:39 PM
ad1 kd qd jd td Congratulationt to all at the APAT team for putting together what looks like a fantastic season three. "You can please some of the people some of the time,but you can"t please all of the people all of the time"
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Santino67 on December 28, 2008, 12:19:21 PM
Love it ..... Well done Des & team for what must have been difficult and protracted negotiations
Bring it on, the Duke is coming to get Ya
And will Son Of Duke accompany you to any of these Gerry? 8)
Oh yes it will be a family takedown of the live and on-line games --
And on the bar :D :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kaysing on December 28, 2008, 12:22:33 PM
Just re-read it in the cold light of day and nothing has changed - I got it first time. An excellent effort guys - APAT conquers the credit crunch and pushes forward into 2009. I am sure that with well structured online tourneys next year, S4 will have the opportunity to reinstate some live regionals or more live national games. I played a couple of regionals this year and was really disappointed to see only 10 - 14 players, self dealt and a fairly drab atmosphere - all this with a 4 hr round trip each time. However, my 8 hour drive to take part in the Welsh National held in Cardiff was a totally different experience - a fantastic time and really what I thought APAT would be about - fun atmosphere- great structure- some good play-some dodgy plays and the buz that only a well run live MTT can provide. The National live tourneys are surely the cornerstone of APAT and anything that can be done to encourage more people to participate the better. Dont forget that the online leagues/championships have a juicy GUKPT prize awaiting at the end for the winners.
Once again, well done to all concerned and a big thanks to Blue Square who have again come up trumps.
One thought; the bottle neck in the tourneys is definatley the live Nationals. How about in S4 more live tourneys are introduced with a similar structure to the S3 nationals - even if a modest fee is needed to act as an incentive to the host venue. The structure is everything and for £75 you wont get a better one. How about a game during the Summer in the SW - combine it with a weeks holdiay in the sun - the family wont cotton on until its too late!!
Well done and here"s to 2009 - I"ll be signing up for Team Plymouth - lets hope there is a strong contingent from the SW - I am canvassing mates in West Cornwall to sign up and encourage everyone else to do the same. Only if Blue Square get enough from the arrangement will they continue to support it. It would be fantastic if the online league games were getting over 200 runners. Afterall there appears to be the interest out there - this thread alone has had about 10000 views.
Best of the season
Kay
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Glorious on December 28, 2008, 12:41:46 PM
As a new player I"m looking forward to this season. This all looks good and hopefully I"ll be able to get involved in the Edinburgh club.
Good job folks.
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: Foggy on December 28, 2008, 13:00:29 PM
The online events are now "events". They have qualifiers, and are now meaningful tournaments that people will look forward to. Saturday night won"t be suitable to all (not sure that they"ll be any good for me), but they have to be on one night of the week and whichever night it"s on it"s not going to suit everyone.
The nationals looks excellent, and again are the Blue Riband events for APAT (as they should be). The addition of DTD to the schedule makes perfect sense (as all who have played there will testify).
The lack of regionals is a shame, BUT - I don"t think they were right last year. Some regionals were better organised than others, and some casinos took them more seriously (or were able to host them better than others). Basically, it was outside APAT's control how good they were. It also appeared that the casinos (i.e. Grosvenor) couldn"t dedicate the staff and resources that were initially promised to these events. In the end, they weren"t all proper "APAT" events. So although their ommission leaves a hole, I"m not sure it"s an APAT-sized hole that"s left.
Need to read up on the regional stuff, as at first glance it"s a little confusing.
Des and the gang - great work yet again. Roll on Season 3...
Daniel speaks sense.[FML]
There"s always time for a FIRST
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: 1tripz1 on December 28, 2008, 13:07:33 PM
Really happy with this. One question, how long till the venues and dates are confirmed? Im a life nit and want to get everything booked/booked off asap :)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: BioBlinx on December 28, 2008, 13:11:12 PM
Fantastic! Really looking forward to season 3 now and it was well worth the wait!
The improvements look great and looking forward to the new additions too. I"m not suprised the regionals went and its completely understandable.
Congrats and big thanks to Des and the APAT team for the hard work put into this and also a big thanks to our sponsor BlueSQ for their continued support.
I"ll be signing up for the Newcastle poker club. Northern division for the win :D :P ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Kinester on December 28, 2008, 13:11:58 PM
Re read it sober now.
Understand the reasoning ect behind it all so woll done to all the APAT team.
The bigger buy ins will def put off the people that i play with so it means coming up on my own to places ive never been too which will be slightly daunting, but shall all be in the spirit of it all lol.
So yeah bring on S3
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CanUK on December 28, 2008, 13:33:45 PM
As a new guy this does not seem fair. With out regionals it will be harder for us new players to get in these bigger events
Without wanting to sound harsh, you"ll have exactly the same chance as everybody else who wants to play.
I disagee a bit, if you have NEVER gone through the registration process before and not sure how it works you are at a bit of a disadvantage.
I am told that it is a clickfest. I know where & when the clickfest begins but then what?
As I said I will give it a go and hope for the best.
Thank for all your help and information.
Sean Kachmarski
Sean,
So you or anybody else is not at a disadvantage, the clickfest is no different than any other purchase you would make online. You click the link, fill out your details and submit.
I guess it"s similar to buying gig tickets online. They go on sale at 9pm and you refresh, refresh, refresh until the link is active. Then you type your details as quickly and accurately as you can and hope you make it into the queue before they sell out.
Plenty of suggestions have been discussed in the past regarding this process, and this is the fairest way of dealing with demand exceeding supply.
Hope that helps,
Leigh
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CanUK on December 28, 2008, 13:52:12 PM
It makes no difference if you"re a new player or "old" player Sean.
Due to the economic downturn, the effects of which are being felt at Grosvenor / BlueSq, the Regionals had to be removed from our Schedule. In showing our support to our Sponsor, we will now run alternative Qualifying Tournaments Online (on BlueSq) at Buy-Ins to suit all - $5, $10 and $20.
"Three satellites will be made available at Blue Square in the run up to all National Championship events. There will be a Monday $20 + $2 freezeout, a Tuesday $10 + $1 freezeout and a Wednesday $5 + $0.50 rebuy. Non allocated seats will be sold directly to players on a Thursday evening. All dates will be updated on the APAT site in the next 24 hours."
I disagree once again, it does matter if your a first timer with APAT.
A £20 regionals in our area would ease us into the tour instead of spendinging the £75 plus travel expenses to an event where we it would feel like we are feel like being thrown in at the deep end.
For me poker is social and reading players is what I enjoy. You can not do that online. As people know online & live are to different games and I tend to stay way from online. (Also due to scandles Ultimate bet etc...)
Economic downturn? I would have thought that having a group of poker players in a casino would help the revenue of the casino. (cash games, casino promotions, member registartion, etc. I would even be willing to pay a registration fee.
ANYWAY, the powers that be, (I am sure) have discussed and debated these issues at length).
I was just looking forward to the regionals, but now have to get ready for the big show instead of having a warm up event.
I will give the clickfest at go...
Thanks for the information and help.
Newbee Sean Kachmarski
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 28, 2008, 13:55:38 PM
When will the sats for the online national on the 10th appear on Blue Square, can"t see any sats for the 5th and 6th and that is next week.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 28, 2008, 13:57:11 PM
Oh dear, i sound impatient. What is the blind and chipstack structure for these sats?
Hope it is the same "creative play" kind of structure.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: RioRodent on December 28, 2008, 13:57:28 PM
I would guess this means some of the super sats at the Rio. The bracelet events themselves are not self deal.
There are NO self-deal geames in Vegas [card rooms].
Not even in the deepest darkest cardrooms of the Nevada Desert
Ok, Deepest, Darkest and Meanest.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 28, 2008, 14:20:28 PM
Quote
Economic downturn? I would have thought that having a group of poker players in a casino would help the revenue of the casino. (cash games, casino promotions, member registartion, etc. I would even be willing to pay a registration fee.
Not a lot of people will appreciate how hard Des had to work to secure sponsorship from BlueSq for Season 3 and the difficult decisions and sacrifices that had to be made.
APATers playing a Regional Event probably contributed a very small percentage of Grosvenor"s revenue in 2008 - it certainly wasn"t an amount that we could go in bargaining with. On the day, Tournament Directors and Dealers cost the Casino money, Buffets cost money, having the cardroom open and heated etc. costs money so it was decided that the Regional Qualifiers would be the best way APAT could help Grosvenor reduce some of their costs.
I share your disappointment (who doesn"t prefer playing live after all?) but feel that we have taken the correct and appropriate actions whilst still providing many good alternative qualifying methods for the Nationals.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 28, 2008, 14:22:55 PM
Spot on Neil
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Sub 'erby on December 28, 2008, 14:23:47 PM
Economic downturn? I would have thought that having a group of poker players in a casino would help the revenue of the casino. (cash games, casino promotions, member registartion, etc. I would even be willing to pay a registration fee.
Not a lot of people will appreciate how hard Des had to work to secure sponsorship from BlueSq for Season 3 and the difficult decisions and sacrifices that had to be made.
APATers playing a Regional Event probably contributed a very small percentage of Grosvenor"s revenue in 2008 - it certainly wasn"t an amount that we could go in bargaining with. On the day, Tournament Directors and Dealers cost the Casino money, Buffets cost money, having the cardroom open and heated etc. costs money so it was decided that the Regional Qualifiers would be the best way APAT could help Grosvenor reduce some of their costs.
I share your disappointment (who doesn"t prefer playing live after all?) but feel that we have taken the correct and appropriate actions whilst still providing many good alternative qualifying methods for the Nationals.
Hear, Hear!
Title: Re: Season 3
Post by: THEGUY84 on December 28, 2008, 14:36:14 PM
The online events are now "events". They have qualifiers, and are now meaningful tournaments that people will look forward to. Saturday night won"t be suitable to all (not sure that they"ll be any good for me), but they have to be on one night of the week and whichever night it"s on it"s not going to suit everyone.
The nationals looks excellent, and again are the Blue Riband events for APAT (as they should be). The addition of DTD to the schedule makes perfect sense (as all who have played there will testify).
The lack of regionals is a shame, BUT - I don"t think they were right last year. Some regionals were better organised than others, and some casinos took them more seriously (or were able to host them better than others). Basically, it was outside APAT's control how good they were. It also appeared that the casinos (i.e. Grosvenor) couldn"t dedicate the staff and resources that were initially promised to these events. In the end, they weren"t all proper "APAT" events. So although their ommission leaves a hole, I"m not sure it"s an APAT-sized hole that"s left.
Need to read up on the regional stuff, as at first glance it"s a little confusing.
Des and the gang - great work yet again. Roll on Season 3...
I agree fully, again was looking forward to regional qualifiers as it got me into 2 events, but as long as there is plenty of satalities I dont mind.
In terms of the live national event due to their popularity such as the scottish this year do you think it would be possiable to increse the numbers of seats avaliable at the event i.e. number of player. I did managed to qualifie last year but I would be truly gutted if I didnt get to play in it this year. I belive other would be same and if worst comes to worst I dont qualifie, I would like to think buying in would be easyer than a complete click fest as this method seemed a bit crazy to me! i dont know what the answer is but just my thoughs really.
kenny
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 28, 2008, 14:38:09 PM
A £20 regionals in our area would ease us into the tour instead of spendinging the £75 plus travel expenses to an event where we it would feel like we are feel like being thrown in at the deep end.
No need to worry about being thrown in at the deep end, it"s the friendliest game you"ll come accross by far - my first event was the Scottish National Championship and I travelled through on my own when I secured a last minute seat and I certainly didn"t feel like i"d been thrown in at the deep end. Just felt like I was at a friendly home game and was chatting to folk almost immediately.
For me poker is social and reading players is what I enjoy. You can not do that online. As people know online & live are to different games and I tend to stay way from online. (Also due to scandles Ultimate bet etc...)
To tarnish all online poker with the same brush as Ultimate Bet is ludicrous in my opinion. Especially since the UB scandal came to light, the whole world is watching the online poker sites with an eagle eye right now so doubt there"ll be any more major scandals of that scale. Sure they"ll be the odd colluder etc but that happens in live poker too. All poker sites are innocent until proven guilty in my eyes, and Blue Square is a reputable firm who is to be fully trusted.
I"m intrigued though - how does someone who tends to "stay away from online poker" manage to accumulate enough player points to purchase a Full Tilt jersey, and would wearing it at a final table not contradict your views on online poker?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 28, 2008, 14:45:40 PM
How is the winning club decided in the National League final? Is it the club the individual winner belongs to or are points awarded for places 1 to 9 as in the fortnightly constituent events?
Jack,
It"s based on the 1 to 9 system, with the winning team coming from the Southern Division, obviously. ;D
Leigh
Leigh, can you remind me how the Welsh did in the Euro championships again. ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 28, 2008, 14:52:28 PM
How is the winning club decided in the National League final? Is it the club the individual winner belongs to or are points awarded for places 1 to 9 as in the fortnightly constituent events?
Jack,
It"s based on the 1 to 9 system, with the winning team coming from the Southern Division, obviously. ;D
Leigh
Leigh, can you remind me how the Welsh did in the Euro championships again. ;)
Ohhh, cruel, Stuart, cruel......
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 28, 2008, 15:03:06 PM
How is the winning club decided in the National League final? Is it the club the individual winner belongs to or are points awarded for places 1 to 9 as in the fortnightly constituent events?
Jack,
It"s based on the 1 to 9 system, with the winning team coming from the Southern Division, obviously. ;D
Leigh, can you remind me how the Welsh did in the Euro championships again. ;)
Doesn"t matter about that.
I reckon that I have about half of the top 20 players from Season 2 in the Southern Division. Bring It On. ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: treydj on December 28, 2008, 15:15:56 PM
just absorbed
good stuff - fantastic organisation and thoughtful progression from session 2 - i guess when des and co are at the helm you can expect nothing but the best!!
you can"t please everyone all the time.
looking forward to the new season
Jas
ad1 6c
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: morlspin on December 28, 2008, 15:17:28 PM
Poor form having the Cardiff National on the same weekend as the Virgin festival in Newcastle......
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: treydj on December 28, 2008, 15:18:54 PM
perhaps virgin should change their dates to suit then?? :-*
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 28, 2008, 15:24:57 PM
And the Scottish National the same weekend as The Open at Turnberry ...
Ce la vie
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: morlspin on December 28, 2008, 15:34:05 PM
perhaps virgin should change their dates to suit then?? :-*
Why tho? its been announced for the last month......
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Swinebag on December 28, 2008, 15:39:49 PM
It does say on the briefing that Cardiff is subject to confirmation, so there may be scope to change the date. However, if the date is set in stone cant then I"m sure there is enough demand that both events can run at the same time.
With Sky Poker, APAT, Virgin and PokerPlayer (probably) tours all running in 2009 there will inevitably be clashes in the amateur calendar.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: treydj on December 28, 2008, 15:44:26 PM
ive just noticed that the 2006 top gear christams special on Dave clashes with almost most haunted on living+4
I feel a letter/ email/ telephone call coming on
::)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 28, 2008, 15:49:07 PM
perhaps virgin should change their dates to suit then?? :-*
Why tho? its been announced for the last month......
And the dates for the Nationals have been arranged for the last couple of months. Its the finer points of the contract negotiations that have taken the time to arrange, and ultimately publish.
The date clash is just unfortunate.....
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: allinbob2 on December 28, 2008, 16:18:39 PM
Well done Des, S3 looks great. Not sad to see the Regionals axed just means an even playing field for the Mighty Irish. See you all in Feb God willing WOOP WOOP!!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: dwh103 on December 28, 2008, 16:28:23 PM
Well done to Des and APAT. Loving the increased online buy in for some events, and the HORSE event. The online events look to have a better calender to me, with a greater prospect of retaining numbers throughout the season. Hope the DTD main event has only a single start date, as despite that I think they could cater for all the demand APAT will bring. The capacity of the place is c. 500 I believe, would there be more demand than that?
I"ve never been tempted to play all the APAT events god sends down to the calender, but this schedule has the best chance yet of rousing me to make an impact on the leaderboard!
As for the regionals, I can"t say I ever played one, but I think they, more than anything else APAT offers, handicapped people by location. So I"m not sorry to see them go tbh.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Jon MW on December 28, 2008, 16:38:15 PM
Is it possible to give any timescale for when any of the uncomfirmed venues/dates will be confirmed?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 28, 2008, 17:02:13 PM
Is it possible to give any timescale for when any of the uncomfirmed venues/dates will be confirmed?
Most of the business teams are away over Christmas so we will get to finalising those early in the new year. It was pressing to get the bulk of the announcement out prior to the end of the year.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 28, 2008, 21:06:25 PM
Is it possible to give any timescale for when any of the uncomfirmed venues/dates will be confirmed?
My guess would be "soon" ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: coprey on December 28, 2008, 21:13:15 PM
I am excited about S3 and will not miss the Regional events. Poker players are a demanding lot judging by the posts. Amidst all the doom and gloom of recent months, its good to know that amateur poker is alive and well. Great work Des and team. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 28, 2008, 21:27:27 PM
Is it correct that the satellites for the World Championship in August take place in February?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 28, 2008, 21:28:49 PM
Is it correct that the satellites for the World Championship in August take place in February?
The plan is to put that event onsale several months before it plays out. There will be some sats before and I dare say quite a few during the run up to the event also, but the event is planned to go on sale in February.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: jacklevel06 on December 28, 2008, 22:19:29 PM
Hi there, apologies for this post but being in Norfolk, there appears to be no local club to us, so how do we decide which regional team to join?
Think you can join which ever region you want regardless of where you actually live. Just once you"ve picked a club you can"t change it later.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: MAIR on December 29, 2008, 00:40:43 AM
It will be your choice which club you would like to be a part of eg Nottingham or even London (not quite good on geography tbh lol), depending on the one that is nearest your location.
Whichever one you choose to join will the one you will remain with for Season 3.
Hope that helps hun.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Baldus New on December 29, 2008, 00:42:45 AM
Many thanks, will give it some more thought when sober lol
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: morlspin on December 29, 2008, 01:51:49 AM
Poor form having the Cardiff National on the same weekend as the Virgin festival in Newcastle......
Grahme this is good for you IMHO.Because if GI MAC and myself played the virgin tournament ,the best you could hope for was 3rd
LOLAMENTS!!!!!
You have to qualify for the Virgin one.....you and GCRAP ;) couldnt do that anyway haha
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: fethepo on December 29, 2008, 08:41:52 AM
Season III looks great!! Nce work lads, and a nice welcome to antes! Yes!
Looking forward to it. Best wishes to all Apat members and see you soon online and live!!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: billwillo on December 29, 2008, 09:07:11 AM
Excellent work APAT, the new season looks exciting, can't wait for it to start next week. I will miss the regionals but they weren't really the APAT experience last season but enjoyed them nevertheless. The National league looks really interesting, I'll be joining the Liverpool Club, I'm sure if Liverpool FC do their bit we'll have a Premier League / Champions League / APAT League treble in 2009!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 29, 2008, 12:59:41 PM
Given that the first line of the press release says "Amateur Poker Association & Tour" and that there is no planned event involving pros, have we reverted back to the original branding/name?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 29, 2008, 13:08:35 PM
Given that the first line of the press release says "Amateur Poker Association & Tour" and that there is no planned event involving pros, have we reverted back to the original branding/name?
Simplistically, yes. Pros are still very much welcome to join and they will be represented on the APAT Association board which is the current priority after the Season Three launch details are all finalised. It is extremely likely there will be a professional series in Season Four - whether that is APAT's own pro events or events we endorse and add to our calendar from the existing pro tours. That may bring about a future change in the sub branding, as S2 did.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 29, 2008, 13:19:26 PM
OK, having sobered up after Christmas (only for today as New year celebrations start tomorrow) I have read the Season 3 brief again and my summary is as follows:
Addition of major Omaha, Horse and a 3day event (+ve) 4 day event for euro champs (+ve) Irish National when I"m on holiday (-ve) £75 buy-in with no rake remains (+ve) Addition of Antes (+ve) Addition of 500/1000 level (+ve) increase in blind levels (+ve) 3 different types of sats for Nationals (+ve) no more inconsistent Regionals (+ve) 16 countries in Euro champs (+ve) added value by Bluesquare again in season 3 (+ve) $75 online events with options to sat into (+ve) events take place on a day of the week ending in a "y" (+ve) separate rankings for online and live (+ve) new online National League with low buy-in (+ve) Divisional Controllers appointed (ok, so it couldn"t all be good)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 29, 2008, 14:17:22 PM
Is it possible to give any timescale for when any of the uncomfirmed venues/dates will be confirmed?
My guess would be "soon" ;)
LOLd at that one.
Was going to ask some questions, but decided that instead of being lazy I could just re-read the information.
Or I might just PM Ian...
Lazy beggar just pm"d me.......
Post it. ;D
(but please leave out the bits about Leigh please Ian)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: monkeyman on December 29, 2008, 16:02:23 PM
As I understand it, I can choose to represent whichever "club" I want to. Assuming I base my choice on whichever clubs are nearest to me, I could make a reasonable case for representing Luton, North London (Southern division) or Nottingham (midland). Would anyone care to aid my decision by suggesting who I should align myself with? I am of course open to financial inducements to either join a winning cause or keep the hell away from anyone who thinks I"d ruin their chances :-\
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 29, 2008, 16:05:10 PM
Come to Nottingham.
I can"t offer any financial incentives, but at least you wouldn"t be heading South.... ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 29, 2008, 16:05:33 PM
As I understand it, I can choose to represent whichever "club" I want to. Assuming I base my choice on whichever clubs are nearest to me, I could make a reasonable case for representing Luton, North London (Southern division) or Nottingham (midland). Would anyone care to aid my decision by suggesting who I should align myself with? I am of course open to financial inducements to either join a winning cause or keep the hell away from anyone who thinks I"d ruin their chances :-\
Well both Luton and North London will have strong teams being fielded. Nottingham is likely to have Kinboshi in it. I leave the decision up to you. ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 29, 2008, 16:07:14 PM
As I understand it, I can choose to represent whichever "club" I want to. Assuming I base my choice on whichever clubs are nearest to me, I could make a reasonable case for representing Luton, North London (Southern division) or Nottingham (midland). Would anyone care to aid my decision by suggesting who I should align myself with? I am of course open to financial inducements to either join a winning cause or keep the hell away from anyone who thinks I"d ruin their chances :-\
You could also pledge your soul to the Northern Cause
If Carslberg were to generate a Poker Team...
It would be Team Dundee!!!!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 29, 2008, 16:12:02 PM
To make it easier for everyone, here"s the links to the relevant divisions for the APAT Online National League.
As I understand it, I can choose to represent whichever "club" I want to. Assuming I base my choice on whichever clubs are nearest to me, I could make a reasonable case for representing Luton, North London (Southern division) or Nottingham (midland). Would anyone care to aid my decision by suggesting who I should align myself with? I am of course open to financial inducements to either join a winning cause or keep the hell away from anyone who thinks I"d ruin their chances :-\
You could also pledge your soul to the Northern Cause
If Carslberg were to generate a Poker Team...
It would be Team Dundee!!!!
There is actually a sound piece of thinking which could lead me over to the north. I live a couple of minutes away from Norwich airport and from there could catch a flight to Dublin. If I think about it purely in terms of how long would it take me to get from my flat to the destination in question, it takes me less time to get there than any of the other locations. Decisions,decisions.......
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: clynd99 on December 29, 2008, 16:42:16 PM
Don"t know if this is a stupid question or not but I"ll ask it anyway.
RE: Online NAtional League. Will Blue Square be running 30 simultanious MTT"s, one for each division, or will it be one big MTT which then has the final 9 scoring points which go to their chosen club to play off against each other.
NB: I have just sworn in with the Walsall Club, many an APATer will be running as far away from Walsall as possible now before I drag them all down with me!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 29, 2008, 16:42:43 PM
Quote
There is actually a sound piece of thinking which could lead me over to the north. I live a couple of minutes away from Norwich airport and from there could catch a flight to Dublin. If I think about it purely in terms of how long would it take me to get from my flat to the destination in question, it takes me less time to get there than any of the other locations. Decisions,decisions.......
Don"t be wooo"d to the dark side (Central) ...
Come Norrrrrrrth ...
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 29, 2008, 16:47:29 PM
It"ll be 3 MTTs (one for each Division - North, Central and South) running on BlueSq every Sunday night from 1st February 2009.
The 10 Regional Clubs will play a total of 20 games against each other with the best Club points counting towards qualifying for the Final. The best three individual points winners and the Club Captain from the top 3 Clubs in each Division (and the highest non-ranking other - a 10th place Club if you like), will be invited to play in the Final to decide the winner.
I have taken the following "bits" from the official briefing (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2331.0) ;
The league will run for twenty rounds, starting on February 1st.
There will be a total of twenty rounds in the National League, with the top three clubs in each division; and the highest scoring non qualifying club, going forward to compete in the Online National League final on November 14th.
APAT National League rounds will be held every fortnight, on a Sunday evening, starting on February 1st. The buy in for each round will be $10 + $1.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: clynd99 on December 29, 2008, 17:12:16 PM
So, just to check it"s all registering properly, there will be an online final consisting of 16 players? 4 captains and their top 3 scoring counterparts. The league leaders from each division and the top scoring runners up?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 29, 2008, 17:17:12 PM
So, just to check it"s all registering properly, there will be an online final consisting of 16 players? 4 captains and their top 3 scoring counterparts. The league leaders from each division and the top scoring runners up?
The final will be contested by the 4 best performing players from each qualifying club, which may not necessarily be the captain. The captain will be non playing under those circumstances. There will be three qualifying clubs for each of the three divisions, while the best non qualifying club will also go through.
So we will have ten clubs in total in the final and 40 players.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 29, 2008, 17:27:12 PM
I"m actually really excited by the national online league this year. Aside from a couple of odd occassions I never really participated in the online side of things during Season 2 as I joined APAT after the Season was under way and thought it"d be too late to take a shot at getting on the leaderboards. Really looking forward to first full APAT season! Plus love the format of the league!!!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: clynd99 on December 29, 2008, 17:36:27 PM
When will online satellites for the Walsall national take place and when will Blue Sq start adding Season 3 schedules to their lobby? Will there be expenses covered in the satellites or just seats?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 29, 2008, 17:39:48 PM
Will there be expenses covered in the satellites or just seats?
I think there"s normally expenses added but would be good if it were just seats, as at current exchange rate there"d be one seat for every 11 entries in the $10 satty and one for every 5.5 in the $20 sattys... But maybe this would take up too many seats? Might not be such a bad thing though as Satelliting in is possibly fairer than clickfest.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 29, 2008, 17:42:51 PM
Maybe that"s not such a bad thing though as Satelliting in is probably fairer than clickfest.
Ohhh, I"d have to take issue with you there......
lol, ok - maybe not on Blue Square when you get it all in ahead for the 4th satellite in a row only to be rivered AGAIN by a 3 outer... :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: clynd99 on December 29, 2008, 17:48:30 PM
Just seen satellites for Walsall event run from January 12-14 with the clickfest on the 15th.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 29, 2008, 18:20:59 PM
Sats will go up later this week / early next week due to holiday season.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: RioRodent on December 29, 2008, 20:57:16 PM
Well I guess I should add my 2d-worth...
Live Nationals - obviously not much needed doing here, it was pretty spot on format from day one... the addition of antes and lengthening blind levels makes it a perfect introduction to "pro format" deepstack poker.
Disappointed that the Euro champs isn"t at the Perla, in Nova Gorica, Slovenia... maybe next year?
Online Nationals - although I was a vocal opponent of the move to $11 online MTTs in S2, I now feel that the move to $82.50 is just too much. At this buy-in, with the addition of a GUKPT Champion of Champions seat (£75k prizepool in 2008), and with no password protection I think these tournaments may recieve interest from pro-players.
It"s not that I don"t think they"ll be a success at this buy-in... quite the opposite and the more successful they are then the more interest they will recieve from full time players... I think 200+ players is quite likely for these, 200 * $75 * 27% is a very healthy $4050 to the winner.
The rest of it - too complicated!
All in all, as usual, it is great package that I"m sure will provide some great competition and thanks must go to the APAT team and Bl Sq for putting it all together.
Cheers, Alan
PS. I could be wrong? (I was once, forget just when it was... I"m sure the wife remembers!!)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on December 29, 2008, 21:01:02 PM
Live Nationals - obviously not much needed doing here, it was pretty spot on format from day one... the addition of antes and lengthening blind levels makes it a perfect introduction to "pro format" deepstack poker.
Disappointed that the Euro champs isn"t at the Perla, in Nova Gorica, Slovenia... maybe next year?
Online Nationals - although I was a vocal opponent of the move to $11 online MTTs in S2, I now feel that the move to $82.50 is just too much. At this buy-in, with the addition of a GUKPT Champion of Champions seat (£75k prizepool in 2008), and with no password protection I think these tournaments may recieve interest from pro-players.
It"s not that I don"t think they"ll be a success at this buy-in... quite the opposite and the more successful they are then the more interest they will recieve from full time players... I think 200+ players is quite likely for these, 200 * $75 * 27% is a very healthy $4050 to the winner.
The rest of it - too complicated!
All in all, as usual, it is great package that I"m sure will provide some great competition and thanks must go to the APAT team and Bl Sq for putting it all together.
Cheers, Alan
PS. I could be wrong? (I was once, forget just when it was... I"m sure the wife remembers!!)
Think I read somewhere on here the Nationals would be password protected
TBH wont miss regionals. Went to one Self Deal no interest from Casino and as an advocate that in the 21st century casino poker should be dealer dealt didnt bother again on principle.
To me it all looks pretty good except still no Stud Hi Lo in WCOAP except for in the Horse of course!!!.
No Razz- Does this mean in 30/40 years Bodders could still be saying he is the Reigning World amateur Razz Champion
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 29, 2008, 23:38:15 PM
To me it all looks pretty good except still no Stud Hi Lo in WCOAP except for in the Horse of course!!!.
No Razz- Does this mean in 30/40 years Bodders could still be saying he is the Reigning World amateur Razz Champion
Both of these feature in the H.O.R.S.E so no need to have individual events for them I don"t think. Plus I think a H.O.R.S.E tournament would get a lot more interest than either of the two standalone from folk who want to be known as the best all rounder...
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: tumblet on December 30, 2008, 01:52:48 AM
Any reason why there is not a North Wales poker club??
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 02:50:06 AM
Any reason why there is not a North Wales poker club??
All of the areas selected for inclusion in the National League have bricks and mortar Casinos / Cardrooms, offering the potential to roll the League out live in Season Four. North Wales did not appear to have a suitable cardroom.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: duke3016 on December 30, 2008, 08:27:29 AM
North Wales did not appear to have a suitable cardroom.
St Asaph Cricket Club incorporating Casino and Gentlemens Emporium ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: scouse3465 on December 30, 2008, 10:14:13 AM
On the final for national poker league, is it going to be chip stacks representive of how you finish ! ie winners 10k 2nd 8k 3rd 6k best losers 5k or something similar or will it make no difference to finish 1 st ,2nd 3rd I believe it should be if possible to make the competion for places more hard fought ,
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: rubertoe on December 30, 2008, 11:17:58 AM
All of those of you from north London!!
Where are you all - Your Region needs You!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: nosey-p on December 30, 2008, 11:32:08 AM
You all may as well not bother as LEEDS is the obvious winners
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
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Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Newportlad on December 30, 2008, 11:39:16 AM
With regards to the Online League, what happens if you are the only player in your team? For example, if Thanet only get 1 player, would that person be allowed to join another team before the start of the first game?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 30, 2008, 11:47:18 AM
With regards to the Online League, what happens if you are the only player in your team? For example, if Thanet only get 1 player, would that person be allowed to join another team before the start of the first game?
I would be surprised if this were the case Darren, but if it were to happen then we would have to look at allowing people to move to a more populated club before the season started.
Leigh
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 30, 2008, 11:49:37 AM
With regards to the Online League, what happens if you are the only player in your team? For example, if Thanet only get 1 player, would that person be allowed to join another team before the start of the first game?
I would be surprised if this were the case Darren, but if it were to happen then we would have to look at allowing people to move to a more populated club before the season started.
Leigh
what would be the deadline for such a decision.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 30, 2008, 12:09:40 PM
With regards to the Online League, what happens if you are the only player in your team? For example, if Thanet only get 1 player, would that person be allowed to join another team before the start of the first game?
I would be surprised if this were the case Darren, but if it were to happen then we would have to look at allowing people to move to a more populated club before the season started.
Leigh
what would be the deadline for such a decision.
We will be monitoring numbers over the next few weeks. A lot of work has gone into the choice of clubs, linking them with the physical cardrooms and ensuring we cover the more populated areas and therefore include as many APAT members in this as possible, whilst hopefully attracting many new members.
We"re not saying we have it spot on, but we are hopeful that there will be enough take up for every club and then numbers will increase during the season.
It is important for each club to spread the word as the added value prizes on offer are well worth the effort.
I"m just gutted I can"t play in them. :(
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 30, 2008, 12:17:20 PM
With regards to the Online League, what happens if you are the only player in your team? For example, if Thanet only get 1 player, would that person be allowed to join another team before the start of the first game?
I would be surprised if this were the case Darren, but if it were to happen then we would have to look at allowing people to move to a more populated club before the season started.
Leigh
what would be the deadline for such a decision.
We will be monitoring numbers over the next few weeks. A lot of work has gone into the choice of clubs, linking them with the physical cardrooms and ensuring we cover the more populated areas and therefore include as many APAT members in this as possible, whilst hopefully attracting many new members.
We"re not saying we have it spot on, but we are hopeful that there will be enough take up for every club and then numbers will increase during the season.
It is important for each club to spread the word as the added value prizes on offer are well worth the effort.
I"m just gutted I"m a rubbish poker player and none of my teams want me to play for any of them. :(
FYP
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 30, 2008, 12:21:40 PM
With regards to the Online League, what happens if you are the only player in your team? For example, if Thanet only get 1 player, would that person be allowed to join another team before the start of the first game?
I would be surprised if this were the case Darren, but if it were to happen then we would have to look at allowing people to move to a more populated club before the season started.
Leigh
what would be the deadline for such a decision.
We will be monitoring numbers over the next few weeks. A lot of work has gone into the choice of clubs, linking them with the physical cardrooms and ensuring we cover the more populated areas and therefore include as many APAT members in this as possible, whilst hopefully attracting many new members.
We"re not saying we have it spot on, but we are hopeful that there will be enough take up for every club and then numbers will increase during the season.
It is important for each club to spread the word as the added value prizes on offer are well worth the effort.
I"m just gutted I"m a rubbish poker player and none of my teams want me to play for any of them. :(
FYP
I write a sensible respons to a genuine question and that"s the response I get. Mind you, I would have expected nothing less. ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 30, 2008, 12:27:15 PM
Apologies Leigh, I"m finding it difficult to get out of "banter mode" at the moment - maybe at the end of the season..... :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 30, 2008, 12:30:10 PM
Leigh , Ian did you miss my post or just ignoring me ?
Ignore you Steve ? Are you kidding ? Would it be actually possible ? ;D
Apologies, I actually forgot about the post. To be honest I don"t know the answer, and that aspect may not yet have been finalised. I"ll take it up with Des.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Robbiebox on December 30, 2008, 12:50:36 PM
For the National Final, is it winning team takes all ( 4xGUKPT) and 2nd team or individual winners get nothing??
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 30, 2008, 12:53:54 PM
For the National Final, is it winning team takes all ( 4xGUKPT) and 2nd team or individual winners get nothing??
this ... ?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: scouse3465 on December 30, 2008, 12:57:38 PM
Cheers Ian , just iron out the kinks before we start lol
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 30, 2008, 13:01:56 PM
If the National League starts on 1st Feb and runs each fortnight and my calculations are correct then Round 13 clashes with Day2 of the Scottish National. Will this be moved? Can the dates for the league games be published somewhere (apologies if they already have).
Just trying to get my diary sorted and want to play as much as possible.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 13:30:15 PM
If the National League starts on 1st Feb and runs each fortnight and my calculations are correct then Round 13 clashes with Day2 of the Scottish National. Will this be moved? Can the dates for the league games be published somewhere (apologies if they already have).
Just trying to get my diary sorted and want to play as much as possible.
We will publish the dates later today, but there are no clashes.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 30, 2008, 13:38:36 PM
For scouse et al....
All players in the National League events, including the final, will begin with an equal number of chips.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: scouse3465 on December 30, 2008, 15:04:07 PM
All players in the National League events, including the final, will begin with an equal number of chips.
thank you for answer ! although disappointed with it means no difference between poss 4th and 1st! Most league tourneys finals have chips stcks in relation to finish positions. Is there no scope for this to happen ?? Is it just me that thinks this? Cheers Ian , Des
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 30, 2008, 15:12:02 PM
I understand your thinking behind this Steve but in a game of such variance, I think it would be foolish to set it up with such handicaps.
Equal chips FTW. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 15:18:44 PM
All players in the National League events, including the final, will begin with an equal number of chips.
thank you for answer ! although disappointed with it means no difference between poss 4th and 1st! Most league tourneys finals have chips stcks in relation to finish positions. Is there no scope for this to happen ?? Is it just me that thinks this? Cheers Ian , Des
It works well in the World Cup ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: bigalhx3 on December 30, 2008, 16:00:49 PM
for the national league when you go to reg for a team you say
Where possible, try to choose the club most local to you for the season.
I dont get this do you have to or dont you because if you do have to then why put Where possible, try to choose the club most local to you for the season. as its online there can be no obstacles for any player not to choose the club most local 2 them i think apat needs to make there minds up on this before i choose between brighton or glasgow
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 30, 2008, 16:16:08 PM
Yes looking at some of the threads on the sign up pages there does appear to be confusion whether this is an on line or live league. It is ON LINE !! I think the reason Des has asked you to sign up for your local club is to stop the formation of a SUPER team.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Newportlad on December 30, 2008, 16:19:55 PM
but it still says "where possible". There are already cases of players joining teams that are not local to where they live.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: bigalhx3 on December 30, 2008, 16:22:52 PM
SUPER TEAM DID NOT SEE TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR THERE
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 30, 2008, 16:24:13 PM
Des explains this on page 38 of this thread;
"All of the areas selected for inclusion in the National League have bricks and mortar Casinos / Cardrooms, offering the potential to roll the League out live in Season Four."
If you sign up for your local one and would like to be selected for the same Club again next year, you will have less traveling.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Newportlad on December 30, 2008, 16:26:50 PM
So it makes no difference for this year then?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on December 30, 2008, 16:31:22 PM
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: bigalhx3 on December 30, 2008, 16:35:49 PM
but it still says "where possible". There are already cases of players joining teams that are not local to where they live.
thats it you can play for anyone or you have to play for your local its simple need a answer off APAT
The answer is a simple one. You can join any of the poker clubs that you wish to, but we would recommend where possible that you join the closest one to you. The idea being that you have an affiliation with a club that develops as the APAT seasons go on and as Neil mentioned earlier in this thread, with the potential of rolling this out live in a future season.
Leigh
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 30, 2008, 17:38:53 PM
Why don"t you just make it a rule that you MUST join the team closest to you and save all confusion. Surely with the help of Google Maps it"s not that hard to figure out the geographically closest team to you and join it. There"s surely no reason for people wanting to join teams that aren"t closest to them except the desire to be in a better (possible "Super") team... :-\
If you happen to live exactly between two locations then pick whichever is easiest for you to get to, should the league roll out live in Season 4 ...
Simple.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 18:11:57 PM
As far as APAT is concerned, members should be signing up for the club closest to them, with the one exception being signing up for their home town club. Scouse is the only player I am aware of who is playing outside of his current location but he is fine to do so as he has signed for his home town club.
Players signing up for a club for the sole reason of playing with their mates are operating outside of the spirit of this guideline and I would ask anyone who may fall into that category to change teams prior to the League starting.
Again, we are not here to police the locations of those signing up for clubs, although we do have addresses, but I"m confident that APAT members will work within the spirit of this guideline, which is there primarily to avoid the creation of a super team.
Apologies for the earlier confusion but hopefully the guideline is clearer now.
There has been a lot of excitement over the last couple of days as the teams have started to come together and I"m looking forward to a fantastic event throughout the season.
Thanks,
Des.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 30, 2008, 18:16:10 PM
That"s fair enough if you are from somewhere but living elsewhere, I know i"d always want to represent the Glasgow team even if I was living in Timbuktu or wherever, just wasn"t clear and people seemed confused. That should be only exception to the rule though. Which it seems it is...
Roll on Feb 1st!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: bigalhx3 on December 30, 2008, 18:24:12 PM
As far as APAT is concerned, members should be signing up for the club closest to them, with the one exception being signing up for their home town club. Scouse is the only player I am aware of who is playing outside of his current location but he is fine to do so as he has signed for his home town club.
Players signing up for a club for the sole reason of playing with their mates are operating outside of the spirit of this guideline and I would ask anyone who may fall into that category to change teams prior to the League starting.
Again, we are not here to police the locations of those signing up for clubs, although we do have addresses, but I"m confident that APAT members will work within the spirit of this guideline, which is there primarily to avoid the creation of a super team.
Apologies for the earlier confusion but hopefully the guideline is clearer now.
There has been a lot of excitement over the last couple of days as the teams have started to come together and I"m looking forward to a fantastic event throughout the season.
Thanks,
Des.
ok thanks des just dont fancy being linked with leeds the shame of it 8)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 30, 2008, 18:28:00 PM
Again, we are not here to police the locations of those signing up for clubs, although we do have addresses...
But do you have copies of birth certificates? You may know where I live now but you have no idea where I was born, or where I may like to call my home town.
Yours, Devil"s Advocate
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 19:27:26 PM
Again, we are not here to police the locations of those signing up for clubs, although we do have addresses...
But do you have copies of birth certificates? You may know where I live now but you have no idea where I was born, or where I may like to call my home town.
Yours, Devil"s Advocate
I don"t believe we need a devil"s advocate on this Alan. We issued a guideline, not a rule. If we suspect there is a superteam being pulled together then we will challenge the players involved - that is the purpose of the guideline. At this moment in time, there is no evidence of that being the case.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on December 30, 2008, 19:52:24 PM
What kind of SuperTeam do you suspect someone could pull together?
North Division fear no one!!!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: nosey-p on December 30, 2008, 19:55:26 PM
There already is a super team, its called Leeds ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 30, 2008, 19:56:01 PM
There already is a super team, its called Leeds Nottingham ;D
FYP
Nottingham FTW (for the win rubertoe)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on December 30, 2008, 20:18:11 PM
Oh blimey, in-fighting within my own division. The banter starts and there"s still a month to go before the season starts - they"ll be at each others throats by then :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: TopPair2Pair on December 30, 2008, 20:19:01 PM
There already is a super team, its called Leeds Nottingham ;D
FYP
Nottingham FTW (for the win rubertoe)
should have guessed!!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Robbiebox on December 30, 2008, 20:30:30 PM
I have a concern over the National league concept: It looks like there is already the formation of several "super" teams and others wll be barely scraping together 4 players. The competition element will be limited with perhaps 4 or 5 teams with any chance and any one signed up to a minority team having no chance of making the final. Example of this is in the Northern division where Glasgow and Edinburgh already have more members than the other clubs put together. Maybe limiting a club to 12 players and having a,b,c,d,,,,, teams for the clubs who have many members. People will soon realise that they have no chance and the national league games will just be between members from the same 3 clubs trying to get enough points to finish in the top 4 for their club. Unless something is done to make the leagues even in terms of numbers there is a real possibility of this being a bit of a failure, especially as the season goes on .
Do others have thoughts on this matter?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Swinebag on December 30, 2008, 20:50:17 PM
Example of this is in the Northern division where Glasgow and Edinburgh already have more members than the other clubs put together.
I think this is probably more down to population density of these two cities in relation to the rest of scotland as opposed to a conspiracy
And lets not forget that some of us are over a hundred miles from any club, so there has to be some allowances made
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Bodddders on December 30, 2008, 20:56:23 PM
Being a sad git, I"ve just worked out that upto this point 88 people have signed up for the on-line league. almost half (42) have chosen the central division whilst only 17 have picked the South. Now if we"re saying it"s down to population why have we only got 5 players signed for North & South London.
Come on you Southerners!! (South London looks good by the way.)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: TopPair2Pair on December 30, 2008, 21:27:54 PM
All players in the National League events, including the final, will begin with an equal number of chips.
thank you for answer ! although disappointed with it means no difference between poss 4th and 1st! Most league tourneys finals have chips stcks in relation to finish positions. Is there no scope for this to happen ?? Is it just me that thinks this? Cheers Ian , Des
It works well in the World Cup ;)
No one but me actually seems bothered about this lol But which world cup you on about ?? The poker world cup is x amount of sit and goes then final is chip stacks for points, and football world cup if u win group u play runners up so there fore gain advvantage but no one cares but me lol !
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 22:54:00 PM
All players in the National League events, including the final, will begin with an equal number of chips.
thank you for answer ! although disappointed with it means no difference between poss 4th and 1st! Most league tourneys finals have chips stcks in relation to finish positions. Is there no scope for this to happen ?? Is it just me that thinks this? Cheers Ian , Des
It works well in the World Cup ;)
No one but me actually seems bothered about this lol But which world cup you on about ?? The poker world cup is x amount of sit and goes then final is chip stacks for points, and football world cup if u win group u play runners up so there fore gain advvantage but no one cares but me lol !
Yep, but they don"t take the field with 60% of the players that the other team has ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 23:01:20 PM
I have a concern over the National league concept: It looks like there is already the formation of several "super" teams and others wll be barely scraping together 4 players. The competition element will be limited with perhaps 4 or 5 teams with any chance and any one signed up to a minority team having no chance of making the final. Example of this is in the Northern division where Glasgow and Edinburgh already have more members than the other clubs put together. Maybe limiting a club to 12 players and having a,b,c,d,,,,, teams for the clubs who have many members. People will soon realise that they have no chance and the national league games will just be between members from the same 3 clubs trying to get enough points to finish in the top 4 for their club. Unless something is done to make the leagues even in terms of numbers there is a real possibility of this being a bit of a failure, especially as the season goes on .
Do others have thoughts on this matter?
A super team to me is not one with access to a lot of players, it is one where several high achieving players pool together to give themselves a better chance of winning. The League was only announced a few days ago and we have over a month before the first round takes place, so I think it is way to soon to start worrying about some teams starting with low numbers.
Bear in mind also that new players can join a team at any point during the season and also that a maximum of four players can score points for any one club in any one round. Teams will gain a maximum of 3 league points (vs 2 for runner up & 1 for third) at each round also, so there is not a great deal of danger of specific clubs racing away early in the league.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: scouse3465 on December 30, 2008, 23:13:04 PM
good answer on numvber of players / super team etc but unconvinced on chips stacks lol look at poker tourney that is league then final points relative to chips stacks ! every one i have seen does that bith pro and local pub games! And it aint massive difference 1 hand would reverse any lead a player has! and with such a good prize for winners think it should be considered. otherwise the winners of league technically penalised , if say one team got top 3 nailed on with 2 to play why play therefore making disadvantage for teamsin 4th 5th etc! if no need to win will cause less play in later events ! i just think it would make it a better and more competive league especially in later stages but looks like no one else cares Des lol
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 30, 2008, 23:21:47 PM
good answer on numvber of players / super team etc but unconvinced on chips stacks lol look at poker tourney that is league then final points relative to chips stacks ! every one i have seen does that bith pro and local pub games! And it aint massive difference 1 hand would reverse any lead a player has! and with such a good prize for winners think it should be considered. otherwise the winners of league technically penalised , if say one team got top 3 nailed on with 2 to play why play therefore making disadvantage for teamsin 4th 5th etc! if no need to win will cause less play in later events ! i just think it would make it a better and more competive league especially in later stages but looks like no one else cares Des lol
You are a tryer Steve and that"s good, but the three divisions are being played off to get teams into the final. New ball game once they"ve got there. Smaller teams with highest points scorers only in contention....should be a great finals night. I"ve my money on Sheffield, Manchester and Nottingham to go through in Central ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: duke3016 on December 30, 2008, 23:27:55 PM
All players in the National League events, including the final, will begin with an equal number of chips.
thank you for answer ! although disappointed with it means no difference between poss 4th and 1st! Most league tourneys finals have chips stcks in relation to finish positions. Is there no scope for this to happen ?? Is it just me that thinks this? Cheers Ian , Des
It works well in the World Cup ;)
No one but me actually seems bothered about this lol But which world cup you on about ?? The poker world cup is x amount of sit and goes then final is chip stacks for points, and football world cup if u win group u play runners up so there fore gain advvantage but no one cares but me lol !
No one else assumes they are going to win?? ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: scouse3465 on December 31, 2008, 10:32:53 AM
Quote
No one else assumes they are going to win?? ;D
i am sure most people believe they can win or why play ? and it is mostly done tongue in cheek ;) Its my new positive thinking and i am hoping i can win half my races now or even hands hold up ! this will be a giggle when it starts , which team you in rio and do you think you can win ?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Newportlad on December 31, 2008, 11:30:39 AM
Thanks for the clarification Des,
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 31, 2008, 11:34:58 AM
Just following the signings for the new National league, and it is very encouraging to see so many names that I don"t recognise, that means that the APAT league is spreading the word. But in the same vein it is disappointing to see so many familiar names missing. Come on guys get signed up to your local club now! What ya waiting for?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 31, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
To add to what Mike says, it is not essential to play in every round, but if you are planning to participate in some way in the League in 2009, then sign up now!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 31, 2008, 13:35:27 PM
good answer on numvber of players / super team etc but unconvinced on chips stacks lol look at poker tourney that is league then final points relative to chips stacks ! every one i have seen does that bith pro and local pub games! And it aint massive difference 1 hand would reverse any lead a player has! and with such a good prize for winners think it should be considered. otherwise the winners of league technically penalised , if say one team got top 3 nailed on with 2 to play why play therefore making disadvantage for teamsin 4th 5th etc! if no need to win will cause less play in later events ! i just think it would make it a better and more competive league especially in later stages but looks like no one else cares Des lol
You are a tryer Steve and that"s good, but the three divisions are being played off to get teams into the final. New ball game once they"ve got there. Smaller teams with highest points scorers only in contention....should be a great finals night. I"ve my money on Sheffield, Manchester and Nottingham to go through in Central ;)
from the man who picked England as winners of the Euro team championships.
Leeds FTW.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: SirPercival on December 31, 2008, 14:07:54 PM
If the National League starts on 1st Feb and runs each fortnight and my calculations are correct then Round 13 clashes with Day2 of the Scottish National. Will this be moved? Can the dates for the league games be published somewhere (apologies if they already have).
Just trying to get my diary sorted and want to play as much as possible.
We will publish the dates later today, but there are no clashes.
did I miss this?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: rubertoe on December 31, 2008, 14:09:42 PM
If the National League starts on 1st Feb and runs each fortnight and my calculations are correct then Round 13 clashes with Day2 of the Scottish National. Will this be moved? Can the dates for the league games be published somewhere (apologies if they already have).
Just trying to get my diary sorted and want to play as much as possible.
We will publish the dates later today, but there are no clashes.
did I miss this?
i dont think Des Specified which today!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on December 31, 2008, 14:32:48 PM
If the National League starts on 1st Feb and runs each fortnight and my calculations are correct then Round 13 clashes with Day2 of the Scottish National. Will this be moved? Can the dates for the league games be published somewhere (apologies if they already have).
Just trying to get my diary sorted and want to play as much as possible.
We will publish the dates later today, but there are no clashes.
did I miss this?
i dont think Des Specified which today!
A very valid point.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 31, 2008, 14:45:41 PM
It"s taken a couple of years, but you are starting to get the hang of Irish time now. As you are...
Title: Online Championship Buy In Amended
Post by: APAT on December 31, 2008, 15:06:03 PM
After a good deal of discussion, APAT can confirm revised entry pricing to our series of Online Championship events in 2009.
Main event entry will now be available at $50.00 + $5.00 (down from $75 + $7.50). Online satellites will be available on the Monday and Tuesday evenings prior to each main event, at $10 + $1 Freezeout (Monday) and $5 + $0.50 Rebuy (Tuesday).
The events will have added value in the form of an entry to a Grosvenor UK Poker main event and APAT National Medals.
Title: Re: Online Championship Buy In Amended
Post by: rubertoe on December 31, 2008, 15:10:20 PM
After a good deal of discussion, APAT can confirm revised entry pricing to our series of Online Championship events in 2009.
Main event entry will now be available at $50.00 + $5.00 (down from $75 + $7.50). Online satellites will be available on the Monday and Tuesday evenings prior to each main event, at $10 + $1 Freezeout (Monday) and $5 + $0.50 Rebuy (Tuesday).
The events will have added value in the form of an entry to a Grosvenor UK Poker main event and APAT National Medals.
Woop Woop!!
Cheers Des
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 31, 2008, 15:11:22 PM
Good do! :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: monkeyman on December 31, 2008, 15:29:46 PM
Excellent work Des.
Title: Re: Online Championship Buy In Amended
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 31, 2008, 15:33:27 PM
The events will have added value in the form of an entry to a Grosvenor UK Poker main event and APAT National Medals.
You can count me in for every single event now! Will these events be password protected or open to everyone who"s on Blue Square? I can see them getting some big numbers with a major influx of non-APAT members if they"re not password protected due to the amazing added value.
My goal for next year is to play in a GUKPT and a GBPT event so hopefully can win my way in one of these or at one of the live nationals :D
Big thanks again to Des, APAT and Blue Square...
Title: Re: Online Championship Buy In Amended
Post by: APAT on December 31, 2008, 15:38:14 PM
The events will have added value in the form of an entry to a Grosvenor UK Poker main event and APAT National Medals.
You can count me in for every single event now! Will these events be password protected or open to everyone who"s on Blue Square? I can see them getting some big numbers with a major influx of non-APAT members if they"re not password protected due to the amazing added value.
My goal for next year is to play in a GUKPT and a GBPT event so hopefully can win my way in one of these or at one of the live nationals :D
Big thanks again to Des, APAT and Blue Square...
Thanks Chris. These events will be open due to their nature. All competing players will be enrolled in APAT if they are not currently members.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: CrizzyConnor on December 31, 2008, 15:41:12 PM
No probs, just checking - looking forward to playing in them, especially now with the added value! Plus the bankroll should be abe to withstand every event in the APAT online calender now with the lowered entry so i"l be aiming to play the vast majority of events!
NH GG WP
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on December 31, 2008, 17:49:57 PM
If the National League starts on 1st Feb and runs each fortnight and my calculations are correct then Round 13 clashes with Day2 of the Scottish National. Will this be moved? Can the dates for the league games be published somewhere (apologies if they already have).
Just trying to get my diary sorted and want to play as much as possible.
We will publish the dates later today, but there are no clashes.
did I miss this?
Published on the National League board now.
Online National League Schedule (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2421.0)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: ForthThistle on December 31, 2008, 18:21:16 PM
Des, Fantastic Job.. Makes it much more affordable and gives us all a Dream.
WP...
Title: Re: Online Championship Buy In Amended
Post by: RioRodent on December 31, 2008, 19:17:53 PM
After a good deal of discussion, APAT can confirm revised entry pricing to our series of Online Championship events in 2009.
Main event entry will now be available at $50.00 + $5.00 (down from $75 + $7.50). Online satellites will be available on the Monday and Tuesday evenings prior to each main event, at $10 + $1 Freezeout (Monday) and $5 + $0.50 Rebuy (Tuesday).
The events will have added value in the form of an entry to a Grosvenor UK Poker main event and APAT National Medals.
Excellent move in my humble opinion.
Now what can I whitter-on about?? >:( Ah I know, this -
... which team you in rio and do you think you can win ?
Since I live about 20 miles from you I guess I should join the Manchester team? :P
Yes, I think I can win any tournament I enter... do I expect to win every one? No.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: 5 High on January 01, 2009, 10:02:20 AM
Happy New Year everyone fantastic schedule well done to all the APAT team
would it be possible for Blue Square to run SnG"s sattelites to the Online Championships as well as the MTT sats?
cheers
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: billwillo on January 01, 2009, 13:57:32 PM
I've got a question about the national league. Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere else on the forum but I've not come across it. When the national league starts on feb 1st is it possible that someone that's never heard of the APAT league on blue square could be casually looking for a tounament to play in and come across the league, play even though they've not registered for one of the APAT poker clubs. Is there anything in the software (eg passwords, a prompt to 1st join a club etc) that makes sure only registered league players play.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on January 01, 2009, 14:03:04 PM
I think it"s been covered somewhere, but I can"t find it (so much to read, so little time.....), I believe the plan is to password protect the entry.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: GiMac on January 01, 2009, 18:21:28 PM
Looks good overall, although shame no live qualifying for National events available this season, as I think this assisted many live only players to participate and also helped intro some new players to live play.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on January 01, 2009, 19:35:40 PM
Looks good overall, although shame no live qualifying for National events available this season, as I think this assisted many live only players to participate and also helped intro some new players to live play.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: dwh103 on January 02, 2009, 00:09:33 AM
With a few of the national events having a TBC next to the venue. How likely are the current venues? And are the dates set in stone?
I"m mainly thinking of the Worlds at DTD.
Cheers
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 02, 2009, 01:28:45 AM
Is it possible to give any timescale for when any of the uncomfirmed venues/dates will be confirmed?
Most of the business teams are away over Christmas so we will get to finalising those early in the new year. It was pressing to get the bulk of the announcement out prior to the end of the year.
I would think they are as definite as they can be. Hopefully Des will finalise next week.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on January 02, 2009, 09:36:46 AM
Is it possible to give any timescale for when any of the uncomfirmed venues/dates will be confirmed?
Most of the business teams are away over Christmas so we will get to finalising those early in the new year. It was pressing to get the bulk of the announcement out prior to the end of the year.
I would think they are as definite as they can be. Hopefully Des will finalise next week.
He"ll get back to you at the end of the week. Which week, we don"t know unfortunately...
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: TimeForPoker on January 02, 2009, 18:21:52 PM
Hi all at APAT .... Happy New 2009 to you all .... and to all fellow players. Hope its a lucky one for you all.
Was just wondering if there was any chance of the UK Team Event in Manchester being changed? In an earlier post, you advised this may be rescheduled until Jan 2010?!
Team TimeForPoker would struggle to get a full 10 squad team at this time of year, which would be really gutting if we couldnt make it. (Fingers crossed)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on January 02, 2009, 19:11:45 PM
Hi all at APAT .... Happy New 2009 to you all .... and to all fellow players. Hope its a lucky one for you all.
Was just wondering if there was any chance of the UK Team Event in Manchester being changed? In an earlier post, you advised this may be rescheduled until Jan 2010?!
Team TimeForPoker would struggle to get a full 10 squad team at this time of year, which would be really gutting if we couldnt make it. (Fingers crossed)
Yep it is definitely a possibility but we have a couple of months prior to needing to worry unduly about this event. Will advise later Laura.
Cheers,
Des.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: rlet71 on January 03, 2009, 14:17:36 PM
I have to say that I am a little dissapointed with season 3. Since joining APAT mid way through season 1 I have really enjoyed taking part in the live regional qualifiers, and so am saddened to find that they will now only take place online. As I am one half of a poker playing couple, in a one computer household one of us is always going to miss out on playing the online events.
It seems that this season is not very "couples friendly" and unfortunately our participation in the APAT events will be greatly reduced this seasons because of this. :(
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Newportlad on January 03, 2009, 14:22:44 PM
The reasons why there are no regional live events have already been stated on the forum. Whilst they may not have been perfect last year, they will be missed. Hopefully they will be back next year, if slightly revamped.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: rlet71 on January 03, 2009, 14:28:17 PM
The reasons why there are no regional live events have already been stated on the forum. Whilst they may not have been perfect last year, they will be missed. Hopefully they will be back next year, if slightly revamped.
I am sorry but I have not had time to read through all the posts so am not aware of the reasons.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on January 03, 2009, 15:40:26 PM
If you had another PC, the two-accounts-in-one-house problem can be got around by contacting Customer Support. I know Mair and Stan can play OK.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on January 03, 2009, 15:56:32 PM
I have to say that I am a little dissapointed with season 3. Since joining APAT mid way through season 1 I have really enjoyed taking part in the live regional qualifiers, and so am saddened to find that they will now only take place online. As I am one half of a poker playing couple, in a one computer household one of us is always going to miss out on playing the online events.
It seems that this season is not very "couples friendly" and unfortunately our participation in the APAT events will be greatly reduced this seasons because of this. :(
Hi Rachel,
Regionals; in a slightly different format, were very much part of APAT's proposal to Blue Square for Season Three, but unfortunately due to the current economic climate, budgets were cut back and something had to give. As a result the Regionals have been rested for a year. APAT very much hope to bring them back next year. Lee and yourself should be able to get into the Nationals via the clickfest if the Online events are going to be troublesome, particularly as all of the seats that were typically given to Regional events will now be sold instead. That said, take a look at Mair"s email above and contact Blue Square if this appeals.
Regards,
Des.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Hammerheid on January 03, 2009, 19:30:08 PM
with so much going on and being said i may have missed this
are APAT allowing alternates into nationl championships again this year?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2009, 19:56:01 PM
with so much going on and being said i may have missed this
are APAT allowing alternates into nationl championships again this year?
I see no reason why not. The only reason they weren"t allowed in Season 1 is that they were illegal in the UK. The new law that came in (I think it was September 2007) allowed alternates in UK poker tournaments. As soon as they were allowed, APAT allowed them. The same law also means you don"t have to be at your seat at the start of a tournament - something that again APAT has allowed as soon as the legislation made it possible.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on January 03, 2009, 20:30:32 PM
with so much going on and being said i may have missed this
are APAT allowing alternates into nationl championships again this year?
I see no reason why not. The only reason they weren"t allowed in Season 1 is that they were illegal in the UK. The new law that came in (I think it was September 2007) allowed alternates in UK poker tournaments. As soon as they were allowed, APAT allowed them. The same law also means you don"t have to be at your seat at the start of a tournament - something that again APAT has allowed as soon as the legislation made it possible.
Yes, alternates will be allowed in for the first two levels.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2009, 20:50:15 PM
with so much going on and being said i may have missed this
are APAT allowing alternates into nationl championships again this year?
I see no reason why not. The only reason they weren"t allowed in Season 1 is that they were illegal in the UK. The new law that came in (I think it was September 2007) allowed alternates in UK poker tournaments. As soon as they were allowed, APAT allowed them. The same law also means you don"t have to be at your seat at the start of a tournament - something that again APAT has allowed as soon as the legislation made it possible.
Yes, alternates will be allowed in for the first two levels.
Just what I said.
:D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on January 03, 2009, 21:02:44 PM
with so much going on and being said i may have missed this
are APAT allowing alternates into nationl championships again this year?
I see no reason why not. The only reason they weren"t allowed in Season 1 is that they were illegal in the UK. The new law that came in (I think it was September 2007) allowed alternates in UK poker tournaments. As soon as they were allowed, APAT allowed them. The same law also means you don"t have to be at your seat at the start of a tournament - something that again APAT has allowed as soon as the legislation made it possible.
Yes, alternates will be allowed in for the first two levels.
Just what I said.
:D
Yes, but you said it like I write seasonal briefings... :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 03, 2009, 21:11:33 PM
with so much going on and being said i may have missed this
are APAT allowing alternates into nationl championships again this year?
I see no reason why not. The only reason they weren"t allowed in Season 1 is that they were illegal in the UK. The new law that came in (I think it was September 2007) allowed alternates in UK poker tournaments. As soon as they were allowed, APAT allowed them. The same law also means you don"t have to be at your seat at the start of a tournament - something that again APAT has allowed as soon as the legislation made it possible.
Yes, alternates will be allowed in for the first two levels.
Just what I said.
:D
Yes, but you said it like I write seasonal briefings... :D
I actually thought you two had swapped log-in"s for a minute there. ;D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on January 03, 2009, 21:31:39 PM
with so much going on and being said i may have missed this
are APAT allowing alternates into nationl championships again this year?
I see no reason why not. The only reason they weren"t allowed in Season 1 is that they were illegal in the UK. The new law that came in (I think it was September 2007) allowed alternates in UK poker tournaments. As soon as they were allowed, APAT allowed them. The same law also means you don"t have to be at your seat at the start of a tournament - something that again APAT has allowed as soon as the legislation made it possible.
Yes, alternates will be allowed in for the first two levels.
Just what I said.
:D
Yes, but you said it like I write seasonal briefings... :D
At least he didn"t say it like he was talking to you on his mobile phone - I don"t think the server has enough memory :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Hammerheid on January 04, 2009, 00:14:48 AM
thanks Des and Kinboshi for quick reply
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Jon MW on January 04, 2009, 18:38:06 PM
Is the date and venue for the Welsh Championship finalised yet?
Or is it still TBC?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on January 04, 2009, 19:33:21 PM
I have to say that I am a little dissapointed with season 3. Since joining APAT mid way through season 1 I have really enjoyed taking part in the live regional qualifiers, and so am saddened to find that they will now only take place online. As I am one half of a poker playing couple, in a one computer household one of us is always going to miss out on playing the online events.
It seems that this season is not very "couples friendly" and unfortunately our participation in the APAT events will be greatly reduced this seasons because of this. :(
Hi Rachel,
Regionals; in a slightly different format, were very much part of APAT's proposal to Blue Square for Season Three, but unfortunately due to the current economic climate, budgets were cut back and something had to give. As a result the Regionals have been rested for a year. APAT very much hope to bring them back next year. Lee and yourself should be able to get into the Nationals via the clickfest if the Online events are going to be troublesome, particularly as all of the seats that were typically given to Regional events will now be sold instead. That said, take a look at Mair"s email above and contact Blue Square if this appeals.
Regards,
Des.
Hi Des,
Many thanks for your reply, clickfests here we come! However this is not as appealing as trying to qualify on the cheap! :)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on January 04, 2009, 23:44:30 PM
I have to say that I am a little dissapointed with season 3. Since joining APAT mid way through season 1 I have really enjoyed taking part in the live regional qualifiers, and so am saddened to find that they will now only take place online. As I am one half of a poker playing couple, in a one computer household one of us is always going to miss out on playing the online events.
It seems that this season is not very "couples friendly" and unfortunately our participation in the APAT events will be greatly reduced this seasons because of this. :(
Hi Rachel,
Regionals; in a slightly different format, were very much part of APAT's proposal to Blue Square for Season Three, but unfortunately due to the current economic climate, budgets were cut back and something had to give. As a result the Regionals have been rested for a year. APAT very much hope to bring them back next year. Lee and yourself should be able to get into the Nationals via the clickfest if the Online events are going to be troublesome, particularly as all of the seats that were typically given to Regional events will now be sold instead. That said, take a look at Mair"s email above and contact Blue Square if this appeals.
Regards,
Des.
Hi Des,
Many thanks for your reply, clickfests here we come! However this is not as appealing as trying to qualify on the cheap! :)
Yep, agreed!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 04, 2009, 23:48:33 PM
Many thanks for your reply, clickfests here we come! However this is not as appealing as trying to qualify on the cheap! :)
Don"t forget that there are three days of satellites Mon, Tue, Wed before the Thursday clickfest. So you will get a few chances to get in cheap.
Good Luck guys. Hope to see you at some of the events in the year.
Leigh
It"s actually cheaper now. Fewer qualifiers to fail in before the clickfest.
:D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: RioRodent on January 05, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
On the subject of Alternates...
Is it still the intention to create one additional £75 prize for each alternate that gets in?
I feel sure that players would prefer something along the lines of one additional prize of £225 for every 3 alternates. For example, 5 alternates get in would create just two extra paid places - £225 and £150.
At least then, if you cash, you are likely to get enough to cover most of your expenses for the two days (not Duke or Dewi obviously, or me for that matter!!).
Any others have an opinion on this??
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Jon MW on January 05, 2009, 10:33:49 AM
I don"t think this is a bad idea.
But to provide an alternative viewpoint.
The £75 entry is a substantial part of the cost of an APAT weekend, if you just get the entry fee back it helps quite a bit - and it essentially means that the weekend becomes something you"ve paid for, for the socialising part - and you"ve got a free poker tournament thrown in.
Personally I think either way works.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Swinebag on January 05, 2009, 10:44:41 AM
I think that there should be a prize for every 2 alternates to show a bit of reward for finishing that high.....but also agree with Jon that it doesn"t really matter too much
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: RioRodent on January 05, 2009, 10:57:02 AM
The £75 entry is a substantial part of the cost of an APAT weekend, if you just get the entry fee back it helps quite a bit - and it essentially means that the weekend becomes something you"ve paid for, for the socialising part - and you"ve got a free poker tournament thrown in.
Personally I think either way works.
But people don"t play poker tournaments, especially two day ones, just to get their buy-in back... you can stay at home and and do that. And yes, I know for many it"s all about "a social weekend and playing for the enjoyment of it", I enjoy the social aspect as much as any... BUT if I"m going to cash in an MTT I want to show a profit!
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on January 05, 2009, 11:15:21 AM
I think both sides have valid points.
Right, I"m off to remove the splinters from my arse.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 05, 2009, 11:32:05 AM
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: WarBwastardo on January 05, 2009, 16:01:13 PM
Twentieth place gets £300 if I"ve read the prize structure correctly. An additional prize per two alternates for £150 is my preference. Wading through a field of 200 over two days I think you deserve a little more than just your initial buy-in back. The social aspect of the weekend is great, but I do primarily go to these things to win money - stop that sniggering at the back, I"ve just been unlucky - so if I do make the money places I want to show a profit.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: kinboshi on January 05, 2009, 16:04:58 PM
Someone has to bubble at some time. After removing the splinter from my backside, I"ve decided to come down on the side of the prize for every two alternates of £150, and obviously if there"s an odd number, a £75 prize for the odd bubbler.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Swinebag on January 05, 2009, 16:11:07 PM
I say for every alternate we stick £75 behind the bar.
that is by far and away the best idea i have ever heard !!
That and the pre-season team bonding for which I have had no replies - so I will just bond with myself (puts on sad, unwanted, dejected and spurned face)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: mike saban on January 05, 2009, 17:51:51 PM
I say for every alternate we stick £75 behind the bar.
that is by far and away the best idea i have ever heard !!
If this gets passed, I would like to motion the idea of alternates being allowed for the first eight levels ;D
Bluesquare could match the £75 behind the bar also. Des, you could be in charge of all this money and buy everyone drinks. :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: RioRodent on January 05, 2009, 21:14:28 PM
I was beginning to think I was the only one with an opinion on this?
Probably because I"m the only one who assumes he"ll finish 21st!! ;)
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: linziwan on January 05, 2009, 23:54:57 PM
(having been off line since Xmas, been poorly, say aaahh poor me!) its taken me a while to read this lot but well worth the effort. Really looking forward to s3 and Des and the team done a fantastic job, shame about the Regionals (as per everyone else) but thats life and we"ll just have to look forward to S4 for those to come back.
Will look at the league thing again when my brain clears from info overload !
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: monkeyman on January 06, 2009, 00:08:05 AM
(having been off line since Xmas, been poorly, say aaahh poor me!) its taken me a while to read this lot but well worth the effort. Really looking forward to s3 and Des and the team done a fantastic job, shame about the Regionals (as per everyone else) but thats life and we"ll just have to look forward to S4 for those to come back.
Will look at the league thing again when my brain clears from info overload !
and when you do look at the league thing again, I strongly recommend North London as your club of choice
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Bodddders on January 06, 2009, 05:40:43 AM
Hi Linda welcome back to the land of the living. Forgive Simon he means South London should be your team of choice for season three.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Bodddders on January 09, 2009, 18:05:50 PM
With regards to the National Online League. It states that only four members from a team can score points in each leg. Therefore if five or more members from the same team finish in the top nine will points be allocted to 10th place and so on?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: APAT on January 09, 2009, 18:13:14 PM
With regards to the National Online League. It states that only four members from a team can score points in each leg. Therefore if five or more members from the same team finish in the top nine will points be allocted to 10th place and so on?
Yes Mike.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: Santino67 on January 10, 2009, 11:58:23 AM
Has season 3 started??? :"( :"( :"(
Any news from Bluesquare Des?
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: lukybugur on January 10, 2009, 13:43:14 PM
First big game is tonight Grant. Hope you get problems resolved.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: nigelking on January 10, 2009, 19:41:38 PM
where have the regional live games gone?? i thought they were the backbone of apat and attracted alot of fresh blood into the live game enviroment ?? :(
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: bigalhx3 on January 10, 2009, 19:55:47 PM
where have the regional live games gone?? i thought they were the backbone of apat and attracted alot of fresh blood into the live game enviroment ?? :(
I disagree about them being the backbone of APAT - but that"s another discussion.
They"ve been removed as the casinos couldn"t dedicate the resources to them that were needed.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: nosey-p on January 29, 2009, 08:47:32 AM
Just been reading my old blog "In The Beginning" when I came across a post titled "The future" http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=1506.30
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on January 29, 2009, 09:02:39 AM
Want to tell us what"s in store for Season 4, Wayne ? :D
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: AMRN on January 29, 2009, 09:08:36 AM
where have the regional live games gone?? i thought they were the backbone of apat and attracted alot of fresh blood into the live game enviroment ?? :(
I disagree about them being the backbone of APAT - but that"s another discussion.
They"ve been removed as the casinos couldn"t dedicate the resources to them that were needed.
I agree - the Regional structure and event was certainly not "APATesque" - self dealt and shortstacked.... certainly not what APAT events are about.
Loving the look of the S3 calendar.
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: nosey-p on January 29, 2009, 09:48:18 AM
Want to tell us what"s in store for Season 4, Wayne ? :D
Leeds will be Poker League Champions (again) Rotherham United will be in division 1 I will win an APAT event You will not get to day 2 An APAT player will win the WSOP Kinboish will have posted is 100,000 Des will be King SirPercival will not play AJ after an all in and a call Duke3016 will still be on with his "Thought of the day" We will all still be moaning at not getting a seat
Title: Re: Season Three Discussion
Post by: HaworthBantam on January 29, 2009, 10:21:29 AM