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Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: monkeyman on August 05, 2007, 22:00:05 PM
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I"m trying to do a bit of research before wednesday and I was wondering
a) Does a flush beat a straight in Razz?
b) Are cowboy hats compulsory?
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I"m trying to do a bit of research before wednesday and I was wondering
a) Does a flush beat a straight in Razz?
b) Are cowboy hats compulsory?
a) flushes and straights don"t count at all
b) I believe so
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Thanks for clarifying that. Until this morning, I thought Razz was a top-shelf magazine. Oh well, you learn something new everyday.
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In all seriousness, congratulations to Jon for what he achieved in Vegas. At least there"s 2nd and 3rd place to play for on wednesday.
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Thanks - but seriously, how many times do number 1 seeds actually win the games they"re expected to. I expect an anti-climatic middling finish for me.
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Thanks - but seriously, how many times do number 1 seeds actually win the games they"re expected to. I expect an anti-climatic middling finish for me.
Sooooooooo modest.
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Thanks - but seriously, how many times do number 1 seeds actually win the games they"re expected to. I expect an anti-climatic middling finish for me.
Sooooooooo modest.
...and I can"t believe he"s never heard of Roger Federer!
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Thanks - but seriously, how many times do number 1 seeds actually win the games they"re expected to. I expect an anti-climatic middling finish for me.
Sooooooooo modest.
...and I can"t believe he"s never heard of Roger Federer!
Roger"s better at Omaha anyway.... ;D
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I"m expecting big things from my, ahem, 1 day"s worth of experience playing Razz. My only consolation is that I"m marginally better at it than I am at Omaha and I"ve been shocking in the APAt hold"em events I"ve played so anything other than an early exit will be a bonus!
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roger"s better at Omaha anyway.... ;D
There is a cash Omaha regular on Stars (.10/.25) who goes by the name Roger Federaise or something very similar. Cool name.
Looking forward to Razz on Weds, as hopefully I"ll have no donkeys chasing flushes to knock me out!
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roger"s better at Omaha anyway.... ;D
There is a cash Omaha regular on Stars (.10/.25) who goes by the name Roger Federaise or something very similar. Cool name.
Looking forward to Razz on Weds, as hopefully I"ll have no donkeys chasing flushes to knock me out!
No they"ll be chasing 10 lows - and then you"ll hit brick,brick,brick for them to beat you . Not that I"m a pessimist :(
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i love razz great game and in a tourniment it will give those with a little knowledge nearly as big an edge as those with a good knowledge but it can be so frustraing when you get dealt 2345353 and lose to a kqj72
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Yep - that"s the kind of thing I meant Iron
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Thanks - but seriously, how many times do number 1 seeds actually win the games they"re expected to. I expect an anti-climatic middling finish for me.
see u heads up for the title jon . mal666 razz master
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dont you just love it when your 543A hand ends up a queen low and you get beaten by a 7th street 8 low
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I"ve just found out that I can get outdrawn at Razz as well!
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I"ve just found out that I can get outdrawn at Razz as well!
Tell me about it - although I have found out that I can tilt at Razz, which I never do at holdem
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It"s a cruel and fickle game.
I"m on life support after the break because of a big pot I lost before it.
Nothing wrong with my opponents play - he wasn"t to know that I held a couple of his outs - yet he still managed to hit one of them on 7th street. :(
Never liked the game anyway.
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Can we please stop the tourney now.
Cant believe im chip leader. there must be a mistake with the software
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PokerStars Game #11380282907: Tournament #55903536, $20+$2 Razz Limit - Level V (80/160) - 2007/08/08 - 16:17:05 (ET)
Table "55903536 4" 8-max
Seat 1: dmoneymills (3363 in chips)
Seat 2: dwh103 (2949 in chips)
Seat 3: pernille0 (2096 in chips)
Seat 4: Ironside (413 in chips)
Seat 5: Wellboy (3688 in chips)
Seat 7: casinoberlin (2941 in chips)
Seat 8: h1a2r3r4y5 (4635 in chips)
dmoneymills: posts the ante 16
dwh103: posts the ante 16
pernille0: posts the ante 16
Ironside: posts the ante 16
Wellboy: posts the ante 16
casinoberlin: posts the ante 16
h1a2r3r4y5: posts the ante 16
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to dmoneymills [9c]
Dealt to dwh103 [4s]
Dealt to pernille0 [8d]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d]
Dealt to Wellboy [2c]
Dealt to casinoberlin [Th]
Dealt to h1a2r3r4y5 [Kc]
h1a2r3r4y5: brings in for 24
dmoneymills: folds
dwh103: raises 56 to 80
pernille0: folds
Ironside: raises 80 to 160
Wellboy: folds
casinoberlin: folds
h1a2r3r4y5: folds
dwh103: raises 80 to 240
Ironside: raises 80 to 320
Betting is capped
dwh103: calls 80
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to dwh103 [4s] [Qs]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d] [Js]
Ironside: bets 77 and is all-in
dwh103: calls 77
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to dwh103 [4s Qs] [Tc]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d Js] [4c]
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to dwh103 [4s Qs Tc] [7c]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d Js 4c] [Qh]
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d Js 4c Qh] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dwh103: shows [As 9h 4s Qs Tc 7c Qd] (Lo: T,9,7,4,A)
Ironside: shows [3c Ac 7d Js 4c Qh 3h] (Lo: J,7,4,3,A)
dwh103 collected 930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 930 | Rake 0
Seat 1: dmoneymills folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: dwh103 showed [As 9h 4s Qs Tc 7c Qd] and won (930) with Lo: T,9,7,4,A
Seat 3: pernille0 folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: Ironside showed [3c Ac 7d Js 4c Qh 3h] and lost with Lo: J,7,4,3,A
Seat 5: Wellboy folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 7: casinoberlin folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: h1a2r3r4y5 folded on the 3rd Street
donkeys everywhere in razz as you expect l
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I know Iron I lost another big pot because somebody started with half decent cards - didn"t know when to fold when he hit a couple of bricks, but then hit perfect cards on 6th and 7th.
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PokerStars Game #11380282907: Tournament #55903536, $20+$2 Razz Limit - Level V (80/160) - 2007/08/08 - 16:17:05 (ET)
Table "55903536 4" 8-max
Seat 1: dmoneymills (3363 in chips)
Seat 2: dwh103 (2949 in chips)
Seat 3: pernille0 (2096 in chips)
Seat 4: Ironside (413 in chips)
Seat 5: Wellboy (3688 in chips)
Seat 7: casinoberlin (2941 in chips)
Seat 8: h1a2r3r4y5 (4635 in chips)
dmoneymills: posts the ante 16
dwh103: posts the ante 16
pernille0: posts the ante 16
Ironside: posts the ante 16
Wellboy: posts the ante 16
casinoberlin: posts the ante 16
h1a2r3r4y5: posts the ante 16
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to dmoneymills [9c]
Dealt to dwh103 [4s]
Dealt to pernille0 [8d]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d]
Dealt to Wellboy [2c]
Dealt to casinoberlin [Th]
Dealt to h1a2r3r4y5 [Kc]
h1a2r3r4y5: brings in for 24
dmoneymills: folds
dwh103: raises 56 to 80
pernille0: folds
Ironside: raises 80 to 160
Wellboy: folds
casinoberlin: folds
h1a2r3r4y5: folds
dwh103: raises 80 to 240
Ironside: raises 80 to 320
Betting is capped
dwh103: calls 80
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to dwh103 [4s] [Qs]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d] [Js]
Ironside: bets 77 and is all-in
dwh103: calls 77
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to dwh103 [4s Qs] [Tc]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d Js] [4c]
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to dwh103 [4s Qs Tc] [7c]
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d Js 4c] [Qh]
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Ironside [3c Ac 7d Js 4c Qh] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dwh103: shows [As 9h 4s Qs Tc 7c Qd] (Lo: T,9,7,4,A)
Ironside: shows [3c Ac 7d Js 4c Qh 3h] (Lo: J,7,4,3,A)
dwh103 collected 930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 930 | Rake 0
Seat 1: dmoneymills folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: dwh103 showed [As 9h 4s Qs Tc 7c Qd] and won (930) with Lo: T,9,7,4,A
Seat 3: pernille0 folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: Ironside showed [3c Ac 7d Js 4c Qh 3h] and lost with Lo: J,7,4,3,A
Seat 5: Wellboy folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 7: casinoberlin folded on the 3rd Street (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: h1a2r3r4y5 folded on the 3rd Street
donkeys everywhere in razz as you expect l
We are running games like Razz etc this week to enable players to try out new poker variants. Lets not insult fellow APAT members and board cotributors for trying something new.
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Razz is without a doubt the most frustrating variant of poker ever.
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Must be the avatar....;D
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love the game but them i am second after 2 hours lol
Anyone for Razz cash game?
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Hate the game
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Who was it (could have been Howard Lederer) who said something along the lines of - playing razz all day really makes you want to punch something? - or words to that effect
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Was going along ok, then someone called JonMW sat at my table.
Wouldn"t mind but he cant even play the game.
Note to self. Need to practise.
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What a great game. Haven"t got a clue what I"m doing - but that means no one else can know what I"m doing either.
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I was out just after you Kin.
I had an 8 on the hand you were knocked out on, but a draw to a 6. That"s why I ended up crippling my stack (not just because I wanted to be the one to knock you out :) )
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I was watching - can"t believe I double paired on that hand.
A triple up would have been nice there, but not to be.
Good fun though, first time I"ve ever played Razz!
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Loved the tournament. Was chip leader for a while, but messed it up yet again! Probably one of the more aggressive players at the table, which paid off on a lot of hands, but got me into a spot of bother as well.
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Loved the tournament. Was chip leader for a while, but messed it up yet again! Probably one of the more aggressive players at the table, which paid off on a lot of hands, but got me into a spot of bother as well.
Aggression is good, but sometimes you do have to fold a hand.
I even folded to Kinboshi - once - that took discipline. :)
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A thoroughly enjoyable, frustrating, rewarding, friendly, aggressive, lucky & unlucky game last night-but thats razz!? Nice to see that most enjoyed it, but i can"t see a majority voting to have razz on the regular timetable?