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Title: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
Here"s a blog, with a bit of a difference.

I"ve decided to start this thread for three reasons.

1.  To help motivate me to do the necessary training
2.  To make people aware that I"m running to raise money for the NSPCC
3.  To hopefully encourage more people to take up running for fitness and/or for the challenge to run a 10K, half-marathon or the quite frankly ridiculous 26.2 miles of a marathon.

A fourth reason is that it might stop me posting as much elsewhere on the forum, and I"m sure that"s the one that"s the most important to many on here... :D

So what"s it all about then?


Well, on Sunday 26 April @ about 9am - I"ll be lining up alongside another 30,000 or so fellow runners (including Paula Radcliffe) to run the London Marathon.  It won"t be my first time.  I ran it in 2004, as it was something I"d always wanted to do.  I only started running in the August of 2003, and 8 months later I was running the famous distance.  Unfortunately, I picked up an injury in training and this affected me on the day - making the run more difficult and making it impossible for me to complete it in my target time.  As I crossed the line I "knew" I"d do it again.

Fast-forward to now, and I now have a little over 3 months to prepare myself for the race.  I"ve always done sport and been fairly fit - but I"ve never been a good long-distance runner.  Over the past few years, I"ve done less and less exercise, especially during the first 9 months of 2008, when I basically did nothing.  Poker isn"t really conducive to a good fitness regime.  As someone who works the usual office hours and then spends evening playing poker or doing whatever, it"s difficult to drag myself out of bed at 6 o"clock in the morning to go running in the pouring rain.

I"ve been trying to get a place in the London Marathon again ever since 2004.  In fact, I didn"t get a place in the 2004 marathon via a ballot place - I had to get a Golden Bond place where I promise to raise a minimum amount for a charity who then give me a guaranteed place.  I ran for the British Heart Foundation in 2004.  Fortunately, the way the organisers run the ballot for London is that if you don"t get a place 5 years in a row, you"re guaranteed a place on the 6th attempt (maybe something that APAT could adopt for the clickfest?).  So the 2009 marathon would be my sixth attempt - and therefore I knew I"d get a place.

My plan was to start running in the summer, build up slowly and then be in good shape to start my training on the run-up (pun intended) to the marathon.  The training programme for the actual marathon is usually over a 16-week period, but you need to have a decent platform already - in other words, I really wanted to be doing at least 25 miles a week come the start of the year.  I haven"t been doing 25 miles a week.  So I"ve missed my first target.  The thing with long-distance running is that you can"t go from nothing (or very little) to putting in 15-20 miles runs.  It"s all about putting in the miles, and it"s something I need to focus on doing.  I hope this diary thread will help me with that.

tl;dr....? skip the rest, read this

If that doesn"t interest you, this might.  I"m running for the NSPCC. 

You can sponsor me with an online donation here:  
http://www.justgiving.com/daniel-phillips

It"d be much appreciated.



Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 12:35:05 PM
Is there anyone else who runs on here?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 22, 2009, 12:36:16 PM
I run bad sometimes.

Does that count ?

;D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 12:38:31 PM

I run bad sometimes.

Does that count ?

;D


:D  

Not quite what I was after!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
When I did it in 2004, I mentioned I was struggling with a niggling injury.  I was aiming to do it in 3hr 45m, but that plan went out of the window when my knee was very sore at the 5 mile mark.  If it had been a training run, I"d have stopped - but there was no way I was going to drop out on the day.  By the time I was a few miles from the finish, I"d worked out (it"s hard doing maths whilst running, but it gives you something to do) that if I did the last few miles or so in a very quick time I could finish in under 4 hours.  So I did just that, culminating in a sprint finish down The Mall to the finish line.

The time on the clock was 4hrs 12m (or something like that), but it had taken me over 10 minutes to cross the start line.  All the runners have a chip that"s attached to their shoes and their are mats across the course that electronically measure when you cross over them - so they can give you your splits - and importantly, your exact time when you cross the line.  However, this took a day or two to come through on the system in 2004, and so I had to wait to see if I"d done it in under 4hrs.  I had - 3hrs 59m 57s to be precise :D

This time out, I"d like to beat that time.  I"d love to do it in 3hrs 30m, but I simply haven"t done the training to do that.  So I"m aiming for my initial target of 3hrs 45m.  I "should" be able to achieve that, but we"ll have to see how the training goes.

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 12:45:58 PM
My biggest problem is combining work, poker, the rest of my life AND running.

Today for example, I got up at 6am and ran 8 miles (the weather was almost perfect, about 7 degrees, and a nice drizzle).

But to get up at 6am I"m having to have to go to bed earlier.  As I increase the miles I run, I"ll have to get up earlier and earlier (or run faster!).  This obviously doesn"t work well with playing poker in the evenings.  I could run when I get home from work in the evening, but I"m not too keen on that.

I prefer to run in the morning for a number of reasons.

Firstly, I"m usually knackered and hungry when I get home from work - not physically exhausted (as I sit at a desk all day), but ready to sit down, have my tea and relax.  By the time I"ve eaten it"s too late to go out and run, even if I wanted to.  The second reason is that I like running in the morning.  There are far fewer people about, maybe the occasional dog walker, people on the way to work (or coming home from the night-shift).  It means I get the paths to myself most of the time.  It"s difficult to drag my semi-concious body out of bed when the alarm goes off, but once I"m out the door and have done my first mile, I feel good and actually enjoy the run (enjoy is a relative term here).  Also, the feeling of getting back getting in the shower and thinking that I"ve already achieved something for the day is a good one.  Someone said to me once that there"s no feeling quite like aches you get after you"ve done some exercise - and it"s so true.  

My legs are aching a bit today - but it"s a good feeling.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on January 22, 2009, 12:57:08 PM
I and a few of my mates decided that this was going to be on our list of things to do during our mid-life crisis years. A couple have done it already and are doing it again this year. The rest of us ... hmmm, we"re not so keen to say the least.

I would like to use it as an "excuse" to get myself fit but like you, would find it very difficult to dedicate the time to it. As I said last year, maybe next year ...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Swinebag on January 22, 2009, 12:58:36 PM
I"m running in an attempt to lose a bit of weight (well a lot really) and have made a reasonable start. I may do a 10K in june but am a long long long long way off even thinking about doing a marathon.

good luck with this Dan and I will sponsor you.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 13:49:04 PM

I"m running in an attempt to lose a bit of weight (well a lot really) and have made a reasonable start. I may do a 10K in june but am a long long long long way off even thinking about doing a marathon.

good luck with this Dan and I will sponsor you.


Thanks for the comment - you swine :D!!

(appreciate the sponsorship though.  Double it will have to be, trebling it seems pretty unlikely...)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 13:50:21 PM

I and a few of my mates decided that this was going to be on our list of things to do during our mid-life crisis years. A couple have done it already and are doing it again this year. The rest of us ... hmmm, we"re not so keen to say the least.

I would like to use it as an "excuse" to get myself fit but like you, would find it very difficult to dedicate the time to it. As I said last year, maybe next year ...


As Nike would say - Just Do It!!  

Do a 10K, then a half-marathon, and then enter a full marathon.  Write a stupid blog on here and then you have no excuses!  

Seriously though, anyone can do it if they put the miles in training.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on January 22, 2009, 17:22:46 PM

Here"s a blog, with a bit of a difference.

I"ve decided to start this thread for three reasons.

1.  To help motivate me to do the necessary training
(I"ll motivate You if it kills me)
2.  To make people aware that I"m running to raise money for the NSPCC
Great cause you have my sponsorship
3.  To hopefully encourage more people to take up running for fitness and/or for the challenge to run a 10K, half-marathon or the quite frankly ridiculous 26.2 miles of a marathon.
FECK RIGHT OFF

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 22, 2009, 18:48:52 PM


Here"s a blog, with a bit of a difference.

I"ve decided to start this thread for three reasons.

1.  To help motivate me to do the necessary training
(I"ll motivate You if it kills me)
2.  To make people aware that I"m running to raise money for the NSPCC
Great cause you have my sponsorship
3.  To hopefully encourage more people to take up running for fitness and/or for the challenge to run a 10K, half-marathon or the quite frankly ridiculous 26.2 miles of a marathon.
FECK RIGHT OFF




Disappointed with the third comment there Ger!  I thought you"d be right up for it... ;)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: TopPair2Pair on January 23, 2009, 00:03:11 AM
Doubt I could ever run 10k but would love to do the cycling part of a triathlon one day, somehow!!

always played footy alot, and ridiculously injury prone, the last 3 attempts to return to playing regularily have resulted in; a chicken nugget growing on the back of my right ankle, a torn up knee, a torn up groin, and ongoing worsening shin pain! And thats just in the last fortnight......they"re all mainly due to me being a fat lazy b&%$%$7!!

I dont know what you do and dont know so i"ll just ramble about stuff that helps me and hopefully one of the points will be of use...

You"ve prolly heard of creatine before but may not know about monster supplements, cheapest place to get good supplements (free delivery). If you"ve havent then i"d do some reading on it. basically helps your muscles recover sooner/improves endurance. 8 week cycles are recommended. It is expensive but also the best creatine product out there imo. 2 servings a day, 1 immediately after run will send ya fitness levels through roof to start off with, best to go back to 1 serving aday at a certain point to make them last longer over the 8 weeks.

A few reuseable cold packs from www.physioroom.com (not sure if the cheapest place for these) are an excellent way to minimise the aching. I come home, go straight to freezer and shove 2 of them on each leg, for 20mins, (20m+ is bad, also if you stretch for a cool down, do it before this). I then have a hot bath which seems to work much better for me rather then just icing shins, none of that walking around like the floor is on fire the next day!

Asda Porridge. Yeah it tastes like used pants but if you can hack it, its great, v cheap, fast to make and a goood source of carbs. prolly most approp to have it straight after morning run.

Umm... seems like you"ve run before but most important of all is recovering (rest+ right nutrition), if you dont recovery form last run then u"ll allow the niggles to get worse, a good routine is tough to find but thats been my solution. Hope I dont sound liek a fitness numpty writing all this, i am not, i just have loads of great experience of being a "sicknote baller"!!!

Good luck fella!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on January 23, 2009, 09:00:36 AM
Dan, I am very impressed with any one who runs and claims to enjoy it! I have run all my life to either get fit or keep fit for other team sports I play, as a kid I used to run Fell races, and I have to say that I actually hate running! I have always said that one day I would do the London marathon, but as I get older that aim seems to be drifting away. So good on ya, and I will give you a tenner in Walsall if you promise not to put it on black ;)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 23, 2009, 09:25:37 AM
I"ve never used creatine - but I"m sure it"s useful.  Some of my friends who do boxing swear by it.  I think I"d just swear at the cost of the stuff!

I do take vitamin and mineral supplements, as well as cod liver oil and glucosamine sulphate for my joints (not damaged through running, but through karate and hockey).  I also try to eat well most of the time.

Rest is also the key for me.  But it"s a tricky business.  I need to get the miles in, and need to increase the number of miles I run in a week - but at the same time I can"t increase it too quickly as I need to take days off for rest/recovery, and also if I increase the mileage/speed that I run, then the recovery will take longer and I"ll be increasing the risk of injury as well.  I don"t want to get an injury before London.  I also don"t want to catch flu or something else that"ll interrupt the training.

You can shove your porridge - I can"t stand the stuff.  I"ll stick to my pasta, rice and bread. 

Ice baths are great - but I"m such a wimp.  They do make a difference though, and I usually jump in the shower after a run and start it cold for my legs.  That usually lasts about 5 seconds before I turn the heat up though :D.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: TopPair2Pair on January 23, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
haha.. i"ll def carry on shoving that porridge into me bellys, ASDA do a syrup porridge for girls if that helps!!


Rest is also the key for me.  But it"s a tricky business.  I need to get the miles in, and need to increase the number of miles I run in a week - but at the same time I can"t increase it too quickly as I need to take days off for rest/recovery, and also if I increase the mileage/speed that I run, then the recovery will take longer and I"ll be increasing the risk of injury as well.  I don"t want to get an injury before London.

Think the maximuscle createmax is the only real solution here as it will mean less rest time + more endurance. Agree its v expensive tho.

Given its for chartity and the time you make may not increase cash probably better to donate the money to the charity instead.

Sod the ice baths, cold shower wont do anything other then smash up pecker!  Bag of peas more productive
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 27, 2009, 10:32:52 AM
Went out this morning for an 8 mile run.  After 3 miles, I start to feel a pain in a toe on my left foot.  I decide to finish after 4 miles, expecting to see some rubbing on my toe or something. 

Nope.  I take my shoe off, and the end of my sock is red from blood.  A small stone, barely visible had managed to get into my sock and had wedged itself between my toes.  After I"d cleaned the blood away, there"s nothing to see except a minor scratch.  Bloody annoying though.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on January 27, 2009, 23:16:01 PM

Went out this morning for an 8 mile run.  After 3 miles, I start to feel a pain in a toe on my left foot.  I decide to finish after 4 miles, expecting to see some rubbing on my toe or something. 

Nope.  I take my shoe off, and the end of my sock is red from blood.  A small stone, barely visible had managed to get into my sock and had wedged itself between my toes.  After I"d cleaned the blood away, there"s nothing to see except a minor scratch.  Bloody annoying though.


No pain - no gain eh

Really admire you for this Dan, I could never do it even when younger - so hats off -- just do it in the time and get those double/treble ups as well
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2009, 14:16:26 PM


Went out this morning for an 8 mile run.  After 3 miles, I start to feel a pain in a toe on my left foot.  I decide to finish after 4 miles, expecting to see some rubbing on my toe or something. 

Nope.  I take my shoe off, and the end of my sock is red from blood.  A small stone, barely visible had managed to get into my sock and had wedged itself between my toes.  After I"d cleaned the blood away, there"s nothing to see except a minor scratch.  Bloody annoying though.


No pain - no gain eh

Really admire you for this Dan, I could never do it even when younger - so hats off -- just do it in the time and get those double/treble ups as well


Yes, the pressure"s on now from those promises of what they"ll donate if I do it in under 4 hours, or under 3 hours 45 minutes, or even bloody 3 hours 30 minutes.

Anyway, I got some new running shoes today. 

http://www.prodirectrunning.com/prodinfo.asp?DPID=RUN-401-002-094&DEPT=401&BRAND=2&SS=1

Will be trying them out tomorrow morning.

The ones I already have are fairly light, but these are like slippers (but easier to run in).

I got a running magazine thrown in with my trainers, and was just flicking through it and reading about Haile Gebrselassie"s marathon times (his world record is 2hrs 3mins 59secs!) - and they are frighteningly quick.  He always has a smile on his face as well - even when he had to drop out of the London Marathon a year or two ago.

In the same magazine I was reading about Nell McAndrew.  She"s an excellent marathon runner - her PB is something like 3hrs 10mins.  So she"s wayyyy quicker than me - and far better looking as well.  She did it in 3hrs 22mins last year so if she"s running it this year and looking at a 3hrs 30min time, she might be my ideal pacemaker...

(http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/images/gpimages/ne_celeb_nell)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Swinebag on January 28, 2009, 14:19:59 PM
blatent norkage

give yourself a 10
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on January 28, 2009, 14:23:52 PM

she might be my ideal pacemaker...

(http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/images/gpimages/ne_celeb_nell)


She"d be ideal to run behind, motivation or what
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2009, 14:24:38 PM


she might be my ideal pacemaker...

(http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/images/gpimages/ne_celeb_nell)


She"d be ideal to run behind, motivation or what


She has an ideal behind to run behind.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2009, 14:27:05 PM
Here she is going shopping:

(http://img45.imagevenue.com/loc589/th_79346_NELL720MC320156_123_589lo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on January 28, 2009, 14:28:55 PM

Here she is going shopping:

(http://img45.imagevenue.com/loc589/th_79346_NELL720MC320156_123_589lo.jpg)


My pacemaker is now in overdrive
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2009, 14:38:42 PM


Here she is going shopping:

(http://img45.imagevenue.com/loc589/th_79346_NELL720MC320156_123_589lo.jpg)


My pacemaker is now in overdrive


Do a search on Google images for Nell McAndrew.

I"d plug your pacemaker into the mains...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on January 28, 2009, 14:40:17 PM
Those trainers - I saw a great Discovery Channel program on the making of them where they were demonstrating the Gel used in them. They dropped a raw egg onto the amount of gel used in each trainer from 72ft and it didn"t break!!

This wasn"t it (app it"s been removed from YouTube :( ) but shows the same thing from a much lesser height

[youtube=425,350]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uuTsXpbLfRU[/youtube]

Here"s a funny clip about the technology

[youtube=425,350]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=26Mb3C8ZhYw[/youtube]

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2009, 15:01:44 PM
Cheers for those Neil - I"ll have to search out that documentary now!

A lot of running shoes have huge midsoles and heels to absorb the shock of the foot (more accurately the heel) hitting the ground.

However, when I first started running, I had problems with my ITB (liotibial Band).  This was to do with landing on my heel when I was running (as encouraged to do so by my trainers), but wasn"t the way I ran naturally.  I did some reading on the web, and found a great article written by Gordon Pirie (a top-class distance runner) who criticised the shoe manufacturers for encouraging people to run "incorrectly".  Instead he was adamant that people should land on the forefoot rather than the heel and utilise the body"s natural shock absorbers (the knee primarily) rather than relying on huge midsoles.

I got myself some shoes with very little mid-sole cushioning, and ran how I felt comfortable, and the ITB pain went instantly.  So that"s how I"ve continued to run since.

Interesting piece about it here:
http://crossfitatlanta.typepad.com/newsletter_archives/2007/06/june_7_2007.html
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on January 28, 2009, 15:07:55 PM
I may be exaggerating on the 72ft drop as there are reports on Blogs from folk who say the egg-drop demo and it was 30ft;

Quotes from Blogs found on Google;

Quote
marga - I guess asic"s gel cushioning is state of the art. I"ve seen one time on TV how they test their gels. They drop an egg from a 30 feet high elavation and the egg won"t break after landing on the Gel.


Quote
that bowerman pair is my first (and last) nike
running shoe, made in china siguro. ive been
an asics believer ever since i saw that 30-foot
egg-drop demo on an asics gel mat on the
Discovery Channel. amazing egg! (haha) :D


Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2009, 15:12:44 PM
So I"ve bought well if I need to save an egg from an upstairs window of a burning building?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Jon MW on January 28, 2009, 15:18:16 PM

Those trainers - I saw a great Discovery Channel program on the making of them ...


So Kinboshi mentions trainers and Nell McAndrew, and the bit you noticed was the trainers?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on January 28, 2009, 15:48:06 PM
Trainers ?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on January 28, 2009, 16:02:03 PM
Although very good, that an old pic of Nell. I"m a techno-geek so sooperdooper trainers FTW!

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2009, 16:20:02 PM

Although very good, that an old pic of Nell.


Here"s a more recent pic for you (blimey are you hard to please)

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc43/kinboshi/wfcover_4520080101.jpg)

Quote
I"m a techno-geek so sooperdooper trainers FTW!


Nell wears Asics trainers as well...


Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on February 03, 2009, 17:18:10 PM
OK - whilst half the country was grinding to a halt yesterday, I managed to do an 8-mile run in the morning before going to work.  I can"t believe schools in the West Midlands are closed today either, there"s no snow on the roads any more!

Anyway, back to the running.  The new trainers are excellent, very comfortable and a lot lighter than my previous ones.  They do have a design flaw though, and small stones can get wedged into the sole.  So I"m going to fill the problem areas to stop this from happening.  When people design these things do they not think about how or where they"ll be used?  As it"s something I can sort it"s not a major issue so never mind.

So now I"m clocking over 25 miles a week, and as I start to build my long run up slowly from where I am now to the 23 miles that"s scheduled for 3 weeks before the marathon, that will increase.  I"m also finding the 8 miles a lot easier and I"m doing it at 8 minute/mile pace as well, even yesterday in the snow.  Today I went out to do a run at a faster pace, so I went for 4 miles and did it at 7m 38 sec pace, which is quick for me.  I have the Silverstone Half Marathon on 15 March, and I"d love to do that at 7m 45 sec - but I"ll be happy with 8 minute miles to be honest.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: 2fiddy on February 03, 2009, 17:29:22 PM
be very careful when you"re training, lived around the corner from Paula Radcliffe a couple of years ago, on one training run as she came hurtling past my house my youngest daughter flew out of the end of our drive on her bike, first attempt without stabilisers, cleaned her up, my daughter was fortunately never held responsible for a poor performance on the world stage soon after.
Moral of the story --- kids,bikes,footpaths,runners --- not a good mixture!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on February 12, 2009, 14:23:34 PM
Had my last "weekend off" from running last weekend at the APAT in Walsall.  It will also be the last drinking session before London.  I wisely decided not to run on Monday morning, and on Tuesday I did a 5-mile run, but at a decent pace (7hrs 35mins).  Yesterday I did an 8-mile run and was surprised that I did that @ 7hrs 45min pace.  So obviously the training is helping and there are tangible signs of improvement.  The running is definitely getting easier.  Nearly fun.

I think I"m going to do a half-marathon training run on Sunday.  Playing hockey on Saturday, and that always takes a lot out of me, but hopefully I should have enough in the tank.

I didn"t mind running in the snow, but I"m not keen on sheet ice on the roads and paths.  Roll on the milder weather (but not too warm please).
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: technolog on February 12, 2009, 19:19:46 PM


...but hopefully I should have enough in the tank.



All fecking Guinness from what I saw.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on February 12, 2009, 19:57:52 PM



...but hopefully I should have enough in the tank.



All fecking Guinness from what I saw.


Have to maintain my iron levels...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: AMRN on February 12, 2009, 19:59:07 PM


Have to maintain my iron levels...


Wow that"s proper multi-tasking.... pressing your shirts whilst running!!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on February 12, 2009, 20:11:06 PM



Have to maintain my iron levels...


Wow that"s proper multi-tasking.... pressing your shirts whilst running!!


Haven"t you got a trophy to go and polish or something?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on March 06, 2009, 18:16:47 PM
(http://www.parrottimes.com/forums/images/smilies/bump.gif)

when is the race Dan ?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 06, 2009, 18:45:10 PM
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on March 07, 2009, 00:29:37 AM

London Marathon in on Sunday 26 April.

I"m running in the Silverstone Half-marathon a week on Sunday.  So that should be a decent indicator of how well (or not) my training is coming on.



Let us know -- and I am in London (north) on that date -- I will rail you
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 07, 2009, 05:24:02 AM


London Marathon in on Sunday 26 April.

I"m running in the Silverstone Half-marathon a week on Sunday.  So that should be a decent indicator of how well (or not) my training is coming on.



Let us know -- and I am in London (north) on that date -- I will rail you


Excellent.  It"s great fun to watch as there are big crowds and lots of drinking.  More fun than running it...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 09, 2009, 10:12:11 AM
Was planning on doing a 15-mile run yesterday, but after a tough hockey match and two late nights on the trot at DTD, I didn"t really feel like braving the wind and the rain.

So I chickened out, and decided to have a rest day instead.  Went to bed before 9 o"clock (no donkfests for me), and got up at 5am this morning and ran 16-miles.  Didn"t feel too bad either (my legs do now though), and I ran it at a little over 8min/mile pace and it was very comfortable.  So this bodes well for London. 

Next test is the Silverstone half next Sunday.  13.1 miles starting and finishing on the F1 track.  It"s a very flat and fast course, so I should be able to run a decent time.  I"m not going to be truly running it at top speed though, as it"s still a training run for London.  But if I can get round in around 1h 40m, I"ll be happy.

Just hope it"s not as windy as yesterday.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 11, 2009, 11:42:22 AM
Yesterday was a rest day after the 16-miles on Monday.  So today I got up and was planning on either running 8-miles (standard morning run), or going for a 4-mile run at a faster pace. 

I decided on the 4-miler, and managed it at 7:09/mile pace - which is the fastest I"ve done so far. 

Tomorrow will be another rest day (in preparation for the half on Sunday), and I"ll probably do a gentle run on Friday.  I"ve got a hockey match on Saturday, but have told the captain that I"d rather not play, but will be available as a sub if necessary.  Ideally, I won"t have to play.

Looking forward to Sunday, and it should be a good indicator as to how well the training"s going.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Chipaccrual on March 11, 2009, 11:47:31 AM
Sounds like you"re getting the miles in Dan.  Keep up the hard work.  ;D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 11, 2009, 11:52:38 AM
Be glad when it"s done to be honest!  Keep getting offers of nights out on the lash, and am turning them down...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on March 11, 2009, 18:10:59 PM

Be glad when it"s done to be honest!  Keep getting offers of nights out on the lash, and am turning them down...

(http://img61.photobucket.com/albums/v185/MemoryLane/bolt.gif)

Priorities pleeeese
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 11, 2009, 20:18:53 PM
Yes, but imagine how many beers I"ve earned with all this training and abstinence.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 15, 2009, 19:00:29 PM
Just got back from Silverstone.

Had all my excuses lined up this morning - I had to play a full hockey match yesterday, I didn"t get an early night because of the boxing, it was really warm today so the heat would slow me down, etc.

BUT - I managed to run it in 1h 38m - which works out at 7m/24s mile pace, so faster than my target time.

Going to download my splits for each mile to see how I ran it, but I know that I was really struggling at 12 miles.  
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 15, 2009, 19:00:39 PM
Here are my splits (the total distance I ran was 13.3 miles according to my GPS whatsit, rather than the 13.1 miles which is the shortest distance you can run on the course):

Mile - pace
1 - 7:14
2 - 7:24
3 - 7:23
4 - 7:24
5 - 7:26
6 - 7:30
7 - 7:28
8 - 7:24
9 - 7:22
10 - 7:30
11 - 7:14
12 - 7:30
13 - 7:45 (I was hurting)
last .3 of a mile - 6:11 (still had enough for a sprint finish)

Quite pleased with that to be honest.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on March 15, 2009, 19:23:00 PM
Excellent effort Dan, defo not racing you in the near future!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on March 15, 2009, 19:26:35 PM
Good effort Dan, WD!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on March 16, 2009, 15:55:17 PM
(http://www.vocinelweb.it/faccine/sport/53.gif)

Nice one Dan
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 17, 2009, 09:29:48 AM
Did 8 miles this morning - @ 7:24 pace.  Looks like my accelerator is stuck.  Well consistency isn"t a bad thing...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 23, 2009, 14:16:57 PM
Did 17 miles this morning (nice getting up at 5:00).  It wasn"t comfortable at all.  From 15 onwards I was struggling, but hopefully that was due to lack of sleep, the running I did on Saturday playing hockey and also the fact that I didn"t take a drink out with me.  Now I"m doing more than 12 miles, it"s getting to the stage that I have to have a drink of something as I run, otherwise the tank hits empty and it"s a struggle.

Still got a few more long runs (19 miles and 22 miles hopefully), so will see how they go.  
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 23, 2009, 14:17:04 PM
I"ve had an idea.  I"ve just got a G1 phone - otherwise known as the "Google Phone".

Google has released a service called "latitude (http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html)" that means you can transmit and share your location with others.  I was thinking of using the phone to show where I am on the course for anyone who wants to follow it (that"ll be my mum and dad then).  Might be interesting.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on March 23, 2009, 14:21:42 PM
Sounds good. If I"m really bored that Sunday morning, I"ll be sure to look you up.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Chipaccrual on March 23, 2009, 14:27:09 PM

Sounds good. If I"m really bored I can be bothered to get up that Sunday morning, I"ll be sure to look you up.


FYP
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 23, 2009, 14:33:07 PM
You"ll only be able to look me up if I give you permission.  Although I can probably give permission en mass (well I think I can) just for the Sunday.  I don"t want people knowing where I am the rest of the time - that"s just not right!

I think you can manually set your location anyway.  So after Sunday I could just set it to DTD...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on March 23, 2009, 16:36:21 PM
Great switch it on and pinpoint bombing FTW
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: SirPercival on March 23, 2009, 19:52:14 PM

I"ve had an idea.  I"ve just got a G1 phone - otherwise known as the "Google Phone".

Google has released a service called "latitude (http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html)" that means you can transmit and share your location with others.  I was thinking of using the phone to show where I am on the course for anyone who wants to follow it (that"ll be my mum and dad then).  Might be interesting.


MIGHT be.  ;)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 23, 2009, 20:22:27 PM
::)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2009, 11:06:55 AM
Here"s a training tip from the London Marathon newsletter that they spam with with from time to time:

Training tip of the week
Prepare for the second half of the marathon

If you are well prepared, the first two hours of the marathon will be "easy". After that, things start to get a little more complicated. Not only will you become increasingly physically tired, but your mind will also be telling you that it"s time to stop, have a rest, and take in the view. To counteract this, try to make your body move more efficiently in the first half of all your training sessions from now on. If you feel in control of your body, your mind will adapt to this and you"ll gain a psychological advantage for the second half of the marathon.


That is so bloody true.  13 miles is a breeze now, but after about 15 or 16 miles then it"s a whole different thing.

Although my times are putting me on course for a potential 3:30 marathon time, I think that 3:45 is a much more realistic time after the fatigue has kicked in and I"m hitting that 22-mile marker and thinking "what the hell am I doing this for?".

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: cincicrappykid on March 27, 2009, 11:36:19 AM
Well wot the hell are u doing this for  lol  :-*
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 27, 2009, 11:38:38 AM

Well wot the hell are u doing this for  lol  :-*


No idea!!!

Well, there is the sponsorship for the NSPCC (link in my signature if anyone who wants to donate who hasn"t already), so that"s a good cause.

It"s also a challenge and it"s got me off my arse.  This time last year I"d gone about 5 months doing nothing in terms of exercise.  I feel a lot better now than I did last year, although I"m eating like a horse at the moment due to the running.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 29, 2009, 20:12:55 PM
Planned to do 19 miles today, and decided that was a silly idea and did 21 instead.  My legs hurt now, especially after a hard game of hockey yesterday as well.

Just had a nice meal in a country pub. Rare fillet steak FTW.  I earned it!  Legs still hurt though.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on March 29, 2009, 20:15:38 PM
N1 Dan. How are d"em new Asics holding up?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on March 29, 2009, 20:22:33 PM
The trainers are brilliant.  Very comfortable and conducive to fast running.  Have got a stone caught in the daft tread design of the sole a few times, but otherwise perfect.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 07, 2009, 10:36:15 AM
My final long-run of my training was planned for Sunday morning.  It didn"t happen.  It would have meant running 23 miles on the back of 4 hours sleep, and a night on the town on the Friday night.

So I got up at 4:30 this morning instead and ran 20 miles.  I actually wanted to do the 23 miles today, but just simply didn"t have the time (yes, I should have got up earlier). 

But that"s the last of my long-training runs.  No point doing the full 26 (although lots of people do, just so they know they are ready for it).  On the day you"re (or should be) well-rested, you"ll have been carbo-loading and focusing everything for the day.  The extra adrenaline on the day certainly makes a difference too.  That, and the crowds of people cheering you on.  So you don"t need to run the marathon distance in training.

After this run, it"s all downhill (as in easier, not getting worse) as I"ll be tapering up to the race in 19 days time.  No more 20-milers, possibly a few 15-mile runs, but mostly shorter runs just to keep things ticking over.  Then lots of rest, trying to avoid picking up any injuries or colds, and lots of eating!!  
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: bigredders on April 07, 2009, 13:17:46 PM
you should only really run up to 3/4 of your distance in training anyway, so you seem to be bang on target! You did well running that distance after this weekend! The adreneline will get you through the last quarter! :D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 08, 2009, 16:06:49 PM
I"ve been browsing the web looking at some running articles.  There"s a saying a friend reminded me of the other day "20 miles is half-way in a marathon".  This is so true.  Whilst the half-way point is obviously 13.1 miles, it"s at 20 miles where the real work begins and half of the total effort (both mental and physical) is needed.  If I"ve eaten correctly, and refuelled during the run, I should be able to avoid the dreaded "Wall".  I need to make sure I don"t go off too quickly, as there"s another saying that "it"s the pace not the race that gets you".  Again, so very true.

Anyway, here are two links to articles that I enjoyed (YMMV).

http://www.nyrr.org/resources/training/marathon_strategy.asp
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/article.asp?uan=2793
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on April 11, 2009, 16:33:19 PM
I"ll be in London working that weekend, but I will get a few hours off for the race. Anyone one else want to meet up and rail Forrest..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 20, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
6 days to go now.

Went out yesterday and ran 12 miles in the afternoon sun - too warm for my liking and I"m hoping for some overcast and cooler weather next Sunday.  A little bit of drizzle wouldn"t go amiss to be honest.  In fact, if the weather"s warm, I will be very happy with 3:40 as my time.  Sort of looking forward to next Sunday, and also looking forward to it being over and done with.  I think I"ll be sticking to half-marathons in the future, as the training is far less demanding and the preparation a lot easier.

So now it"s time to really cut back on the miles I run, and I"ll probably put in 2 or 3 more short runs this week, again at a lazy pace.  From Thursday it"ll be carbo-loading time - surely the easiest part of the training regime!

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on April 20, 2009, 12:27:50 PM
Hope it goes well for you, I"ll be keeping an eye out for you on the telly. Your not running as a giant Ace of Spades then?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Swinebag on April 20, 2009, 13:21:50 PM

Hope it goes well for you, I"ll be keeping an eye out for you on the telly. Your not running in a big fish suit then?


bit harsh mikey ;)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on April 20, 2009, 13:27:32 PM
LOL ;D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 20, 2009, 15:18:22 PM


Hope it goes well for you, I"ll be keeping an eye out for you on the telly. Your not running in a big fish suit then?


bit harsh mikey ;)


No, my Robinho outfit is at the dry cleaners.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on April 20, 2009, 18:33:38 PM
Me and my running chums are raring to go

(http://www.smilieland.com/graphics/0005.gif)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 21, 2009, 17:28:31 PM
http://www.adidas.com/campaigns/londonmarathon/content/ss09/

If anyone wants to see my 5K splits as I do the run you can register there and these can be sent to your mobile.

My running number is 7500.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on April 21, 2009, 18:12:04 PM

http://www.adidas.com/campaigns/londonmarathon/content/ss09/

If anyone wants to see my 5K splits as I do the run you can register there and these can be sent to your mobile.

My running number is 7500.


doing the splits at each 5k mark is just showing off
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 21, 2009, 18:25:22 PM


http://www.adidas.com/campaigns/londonmarathon/content/ss09/

If anyone wants to see my 5K splits as I do the run you can register there and these can be sent to your mobile.

My running number is 7500.


doing the splits at each 5k mark is just showing off


:D

My brother"s signed up and it"s told him there"ll only be the splits for the start halfway and finish.  So they lied on the site...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 22, 2009, 09:40:57 AM

Looking at the 4-day weather forecast on the BBC, and things might be looking up!

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc43/kinboshi/weather4-days.png)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/8/
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on April 25, 2009, 08:30:43 AM
GL for tomorrow Dan.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: AMRN on April 25, 2009, 08:36:08 AM
GOOD LUCK DANIEL SAN!!

Remember, man who catch fly with chopsticks can do anything (even run a marathon!!)

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: rubertoe on April 25, 2009, 10:11:38 AM
Good Luck Daniel,

I shall be there somehwere (not running obviously) but drinking!!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: SirPercival on April 25, 2009, 10:15:51 AM
Best of luck Dan and congratultions on the fund raising.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: SirPercival on April 25, 2009, 10:17:01 AM

GOOD LUCK DANIEL SAN!!

Remember, man who catch fly with chopsticks can do anything (even run a marathon!!)



I know you probably won"t believe it, but I have actually done that.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: technolog on April 25, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
I once cut the leg off a fly in flight with a razor  8)

Good luck Daniel (http://blondepoker.com/forum/Smileys/default/thumbs.gif)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on April 25, 2009, 10:47:50 AM
Shogun sent a wasp to Valhalla in a flaming longboat by spraying fly killer on a hot light bulb

All the best Dan I will do my damndest to be there to rail you
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on April 25, 2009, 11:16:31 AM
All the best Dan, I hope you manage to achieve your set time.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Waz1892 on April 25, 2009, 11:32:49 AM

GOOD LUCK DANIEL SAN!!

Remember, man who catch fly with chopsticks can do anything (even run a marathon!!)




remember runners rash.....wax on wax off.  ;D

seriously...all the very best, have done this myself, and it is awesome.  GL.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: lukybugur on April 26, 2009, 15:58:34 PM
Name    PHILLIPS, DANIEL (GBR)    Club    
Runner No.    7500    Age group    M18
TIMES
5 km    0:26:42    25 km    2:08:44
10 km    0:51:54    30 km    2:36:01
15 km    1:17:27    35 km    3:04:02
20 km    1:43:05    40 km    3:34:55
half    1:48:38    finish    3:46:11
TOTAL
Position (overall)    6970    Position
(age group)    3154
Position (gender)    5886    Finish time    3:46:11


WD Daniel! Only 1 min later than you"d targeted.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: APAT on April 26, 2009, 16:45:57 PM
Very well done Daniel, great effort and top marks for raising the funds that you have.  Now, take a few days off and get your feet; or what"s left of them, up.   :)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on April 26, 2009, 17:16:01 PM
Top effort Dan, well done!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Cyntaf on April 26, 2009, 18:50:45 PM
Tops Dan, absolute tops :)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: MAIR on April 26, 2009, 19:01:49 PM
Well done Daniel, I watched it today didnt see u tho hehe mind u there were hundreds and hundreds o them.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Waz1892 on April 26, 2009, 19:05:27 PM
great time...very well done
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: nosey-p on April 26, 2009, 19:46:38 PM
Well done, mate
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 26, 2009, 21:07:03 PM

Name    PHILLIPS, DANIEL (GBR)    Club    
Runner No.    7500    Age group    M18
TIMES
5 km    0:26:42    25 km    2:08:44
10 km    0:51:54    30 km    2:36:01
15 km    1:17:27    35 km    3:04:02
20 km    1:43:05    40 km    3:34:55
half    1:48:38    finish    3:46:11
TOTAL
Position (overall)    6970    Position
(age group)    3154
Position (gender)    5886    Finish time    3:46:11


WD Daniel! Only 1 min later than you"d targeted.


Disappointed with the time to be honest.  It was 18 degrees in the shade early in the afternoon, and there was very little shade to be had an no cloud cover either.  Made it very difficult conditions, and I struggled.  Not as much as Gordon Ramsey though who I passed at about the 15 mile mark, and he looked very much worse for wear.

It does mean that I"ll have to do another one now though, so I can get a more respectable PB.  I reckon if it had been more agreeable conditions that I could have done it 10 minutes quicker at least.

Amazing day though, and the support of the crowd was fantastic.  Really does help you keep going when someone shouts your name out as you"re beginning to flag.

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: technolog on April 26, 2009, 21:09:34 PM


Really does help you keep going when someone shouts your name out as you"re beginning to flag.



What - "Come on Fishboy - get a f****** move on!"
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 26, 2009, 21:44:14 PM



Really does help you keep going when someone shouts your name out as you"re beginning to flag.



What - "Come on Fishboy - get a f****** move on!"


:D something like that lol
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: AMRN on April 26, 2009, 22:32:41 PM
nice one Dan, very well done!!

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Zanshin on April 26, 2009, 22:34:14 PM
Well done Dan.... how are the feet :-)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on April 26, 2009, 23:28:49 PM

Well done Dan.... how are the feet :-)



Feet are battered, but it"s the legs that hurt.  Stairs are a bit of an issue at the moment :D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Bodddders on April 27, 2009, 09:37:44 AM
Great effort Dan well done.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Laxie on April 27, 2009, 09:53:40 AM
Slacker
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: cincicrappykid on April 27, 2009, 11:21:19 AM
WELL DONE DAN
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on April 27, 2009, 14:17:41 PM
Was in North London at the weekend (unfortunately the install took longer than projected and I didn"t make it into Central London  :-[ ) and when I saw the day that was in it I did think it would be very hard out here.

Well done to

1 Do it
2 Raise money for a worthy cause


wp gg nh
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: duke3016 on October 18, 2009, 15:37:48 PM
Shameless BUMP

You getting ready for the 2010 one Dan ?
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 28, 2010, 10:00:14 AM
Was meant to be running this April, but because of a few niggling injuries and going self-employed soon, I"ve decided to defer my entry to 2011.

Anyway, this is an interesting article:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8483401.stm

Some of it is obvious, but it just reinforces a lot of what I was saying about heel-striking being "unnatural" and not necessarily good for the body.
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Chipaccrual on January 28, 2010, 10:14:26 AM
That damn heal-striking.

I"ve been going on about that for years, and finally now people are starting to stand up and take notice.  ;)

I would also like to point out that my reasons for not exercising properly are also down to going self employed.  If it"s good enough for Dan, it"s good enough for me.   :D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Jon MW on January 28, 2010, 11:55:11 AM
"... He said that it was also very interesting that "many of the world"s best athletes run with a forefoot strike". ..."

I do actually run with a forefoot strike - but it would be unfair on all the other competitors if I competed and won everything.

That"s my reason for not exercising properly covered I think.  ;D
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 14, 2011, 13:27:07 PM
OK, it"s 2011 and I"m doing it again.

http://www.runningsponsorme.org/kinboshi

Running for Cancer Research UK this time, so please sponsor me if you can - even if it"s just a tenner!

Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: Waz1892 on January 14, 2011, 14:44:24 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o

and good luck!
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: SirPercival on January 14, 2011, 19:51:14 PM
Not been on here for ages and you come back with that?

I might dig deep, but I"m a bit busy  ;)

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=7756.0 (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=7756.0)
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 18, 2011, 11:43:04 AM
I"ve been on the PHA threads, and of course reading through the good threads on here.  Not been on yours yet, so will have a look now...
Title: Re: The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner-Runner
Post by: kinboshi on January 18, 2011, 11:44:21 AM
Ran 15 miles this morning - and my legs hurt now.  A friend of mine is a fitness instructor and marathon runner/triathlete and he"s put together a training plan for me.  It"ll either help me break my PB or kill myself trying.