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Watching bits and pieces of the warm up.
Are New Zealand not a decent price at 9/1 on Betfair?
India worthy favourites but plenty short given the variance in this form of cricket.
Thoughts?
Louis
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Well for a start this aint cricket!! But any one of the top teams can win this, so 9/1 for the Kiwis is a pretty good bet
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Well for a start this aint cricket!! But any one of the top teams can win this, so 9/1 for the Kiwis is a pretty good bet
it ain"t cricket, but it ain"t poker either. cricket on a poker forum? tsk tsk
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Well for a start this aint cricket!! But any one of the top teams can win this, so 9/1 for the Kiwis is a pretty good bet
it ain"t cricket, but it ain"t poker either. cricket on a poker forum? tsk tsk
It"s in the Sports Discussion section ...
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Well for a start this aint cricket!! But any one of the top teams can win this, so 9/1 for the Kiwis is a pretty good bet
It"s not cricket the way I was taught it ... but at times that was pretty sterile.
I would have loved to have seen the West Indians of "84 and "88 play 20/20 ... might not have had to change much in their game to be unplayable.
I remember Viv Richards hitting 189 not out from 272 for 9 in a 50 over game ... some very unorthodox shots getting played ... great to watch.
Same for people like Robin Smith - shot a ball - great to watch.
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the problem is they rely too much on mc cullum for their batting, i do have to admit that their bowling is definately conjusive to this form of cricket
fancy south africa myself, definately have the batting line up to smash any team out of the park
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sell total sixes for the tourney on sporting index.
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What a game between England and Holland..
The best cricket match i have watched... EVER
Brilliant.
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Just got in ,mrs p is watching bb.Dont tell me England got beat ?
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Just got in ,mrs p is watching bb.Dont tell me England got beat ?
erm yes
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[ ] The whole of Scotland are not having a small giggle
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[ ] The whole of Scotland are not having a small giggle
To think we have a Scot trying to run England! (for now)
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England vs Holland ... now there is a hangover cure!
Just watched the highlights ... which were hilarious ... what were the odds?
England 100-0 after 11 overs ... OMG!
Pietersen and Flintoff injured in the IPL ...
Looking forward to buying the papers for an indepth look at Dutch cricket"s finest hour.
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I sat watching it live thinking I can"t believe we are going to lose to Holland at cricket! Then we got back into it and Broad bowled a great last over, but fielded like a village player!! I haven"t read the papers yet and studied what is required to go through, but the fact that we lost and didn"t tie means we "re out if we don"t beat Pakistan ( I think) !
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I sat watching it live thinking I can"t believe we are going to lose to Holland at cricket! Then we got back into it and Broad bowled a great last over, but fielded like a village player!! I haven"t read the papers yet and studied what is required to go through, but the fact that we lost and didn"t tie means we "re out if we don"t beat Pakistan ( I think) !
Pakistan looked very rusty ... in the warm up I watched.
Holland played some great shots ... looked like a good side ... given the base England set they should have made 200 ... game over ...
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I sat watching it live thinking I can"t believe we are going to lose to Holland at cricket! Then we got back into it and Broad bowled a great last over, but fielded like a village player!! I haven"t read the papers yet and studied what is required to go through, but the fact that we lost and didn"t tie means we "re out if we don"t beat Pakistan ( I think) !
Just re-watched the last over reminded me of when I played sixes tournaments as a kid ...
Shame for Broad who I really like as a player.
Did you see the hilarious Bopara "run out attempt" earlier?
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Watching the rain at The Oval at the moment.
I love the fact they will play a 5 over game if the rain clears by 12.30pm!
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Apparently if it had been a tie, there would have been a 1 over decider. Even more reason for Broad to hang on to it, having said that all 3 stumps to aim at 5 metres away !!
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Apparently if it had been a tie, there would have been a 1 over decider. Even more reason for Broad to hang on to it, having said that all 3 stumps to aim at 5 metres away !!
Yeah they play a "Super Over" - Ireland had a tie with Holland in the warm up.
It was absurd!
Ireland - I think scored 5-1
Holland 2-2
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Cue the next absurdity!
Scotland vs New Zealand over 7 overs!
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Apparently if it had been a tie, there would have been a 1 over decider. Even more reason for Broad to hang on to it, having said that all 3 stumps to aim at 5 metres away !!
The last over is the craziest I have ever seen ...
Broad had three missed run outs and a dropped catch ...
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New Zealand 1/14
Scotland 12/1
Juicy for a 7 over match!
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Two Overs gone!
Scotland 30-0
NZ 4/11
Scotland 11/4
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Five Overs Gone
Scotland 67/1
NZ 4/7
Scotland 13/8
GENIUS!
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Scotland 89-4 (7 Overs) - Wow!
Some very clean hitting.
NZ 1/2
Scotland 2/1
Going to be close!
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OMG
New Zealand thrashing the ball everywhere ...
... until they manage a run out off a free hit.
They should still make it ... but total lunacy.
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New Zealand 22 required from 2 overs.
New Zealand 1/3
Scotland 3/1
Dicey.
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In the final analysis New Zealand too good.
Scotland semi-fold under pressure - and start bowling no balls.
New Zealand looking like the have a great batting line up - no sure about the bowling!
Next game versus South Africa.
Tempted to switch my betting on to SA.
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West Indies on fire ...
Gayle at his imperious best.
Super 8s might have a very strange line up without the distinct possibility that England and Australia will be missing.
Brett Lee"s first three overs going for 51 runs.
Gayle hitting Lee for a 105m six onto the roof of the Oval - ridiculous.
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Holland 6.6/1 to beat the miss-firing Pakistan ... got to value!
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I"m going to Trent Bridge on Thursday, SA V England should be a great game, hope the weather stays fine. 2 Horse race nearly sevens, gotta be a great bet, especially how they played against us.
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They are currently 16.5/1
There is the issue that they don"t have to win to go through ... but the odds ridiculous.
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I"m going to Trent Bridge on Thursday, SA V England should be a great game, hope the weather stays fine. 2 Horse race nearly sevens, gotta be a great bet, especially how they played against us.
It looks like Pakistan might just have enough ... though already two dropped catches ... (four vs England)
South Africa look like the team to beat.
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South Africa pretty hot (especially in the field)
Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
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Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
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Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
KP bores me on the whole - he unbalances the team - always a side show.
His recent interviews are ridiculous - all about how he doesn"t go to the physio when injured - he knows best - or rather wants to take the IPL money and run ...
Captaincy sideshow
Homesick sideshow
What are we going to get for the Ashes?
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Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
Can"t agree about Captain"s in 20/20, with the short game the captaincy doesn"t really come into it. With a 6 over power play the benefit is with the Batsmen, as the infield can be beaten and runs scored easily. It becomes a bowlers game when early wickets are taken and the pressure increases to score quick runs.
You can"t really set a field to defend runs in 20/20 or make bowling changes to turn a game around. It"s basically a lottery and the team that gets the momentum will win, this was South Africa yesterday. If England had got the momentum then Graeme Smith"s captaincy wouldn"t have made any difference.
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Was at Trent Bridge yesterday. The Kiwis were awesome with bat and in the field, okay it was only Ireland ;) but they were terrific. What a let down England were. KP was the only batsman taking the attack to the bowlers ( Louis,, what you on!) So a real disappointment as a spectacle.
20 / 20 is a batsmans game, short boundaries and great wickets, but thats why people like it, everybody loves to see the ball flying to all parts. Collingwood as a skipper I don"t like, but as Logie says captaincy during the game has little impact, the pre match plan is where all the decision making goes on.
Yesterday for example what were Englands plan after posting 111? To win they had to take early wickets, so surely Broad and Anderson should have opened! If they were already resigned to losing then lets try a reduce the net run rate for later in the tournamnent, in which case open with Dimi. I leave you to decide.
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Yesterday for example what were Englands plan after posting 111? To win they had to take early wickets, so surely Broad and Anderson should have opened! If they were already resigned to losing then lets try a reduce the net run rate for later in the tournamnent, in which case open with Dimi. I leave you to decide.
Got it in one ;D
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Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
Can"t agree about Captain"s in 20/20, with the short game the captaincy doesn"t really come into it. With a 6 over power play the benefit is with the Batsmen, as the infield can be beaten and runs scored easily. It becomes a bowlers game when early wickets are taken and the pressure increases to score quick runs.
You can"t really set a field to defend runs in 20/20 or make bowling changes to turn a game around. It"s basically a lottery and the team that gets the momentum will win, this was South Africa yesterday. If England had got the momentum then Graeme Smith"s captaincy wouldn"t have made any difference.
Interesting points - it"s not just a coin flip for me - S Africa defended a very small target against NZ.
Astute bowlers adapt
Batsmen can adapt too ... why apart from Pietersen do the English batsmen get so obsessed with playing square of the wicket?
Don"t get me wrong Pietersen is England"s best player ... but he unsettles the weak around him - when he fails they fail.
He should be the captain - but blew his feet off in a Roy Keane style huff - and someone needs to sort it out - it"s just so tedious to watch.
Mega paid under performers.
England looked good against the despicable West Indies in the Tests - but now look more like a jellyfish.
They rolled over Pakistan (who played terribly).
It reminds me of how England used to be at football ... bumble along ... beat weak foes and crumble against the stronger teams ...
Capello now looks to have it well sorted ...
... who is going to sort it for English cricket?
Louis
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Was at Trent Bridge yesterday. The Kiwis were awesome with bat and in the field, okay it was only Ireland ;) but they were terrific. What a let down England were. KP was the only batsman taking the attack to the bowlers ( Louis,, what you on!) So a real disappointment as a spectacle.
20 / 20 is a batsmans game, short boundaries and great wickets, but thats why people like it, everybody loves to see the ball flying to all parts. Collingwood as a skipper I don"t like, but as Logie says captaincy during the game has little impact, the pre match plan is where all the decision making goes on.
Yesterday for example what were Englands plan after posting 111? To win they had to take early wickets, so surely Broad and Anderson should have opened! If they were already resigned to losing then lets try a reduce the net run rate for later in the tournamnent, in which case open with Dimi. I leave you to decide.
Who sets the plan before the game?
Where is the plan B?
Who is going to inact it (if there is one?) ... it cannot be a coach on the sidelines ... or is that what they were waiting for?
Is this why England failed to declare in the West Indies ... and win the series?
Weird to observe ...
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Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
Can"t agree about Captain"s in 20/20, with the short game the captaincy doesn"t really come into it. With a 6 over power play the benefit is with the Batsmen, as the infield can be beaten and runs scored easily. It becomes a bowlers game when early wickets are taken and the pressure increases to score quick runs.
You can"t really set a field to defend runs in 20/20 or make bowling changes to turn a game around. It"s basically a lottery and the team that gets the momentum will win, this was South Africa yesterday. If England had got the momentum then Graeme Smith"s captaincy wouldn"t have made any difference.
Interesting points - it"s not just a coin flip for me - S Africa defended a very small target against NZ.
Astute bowlers adapt
Batsmen can adapt too ... why apart from Pietersen do the English batsmen get so obsessed with playing square of the wicket?
Don"t get me wrong Pietersen is England"s best player ... but he unsettles the weak around him - when he fails they fail.
He should be the captain - but blew his feet off in a Roy Keane style huff - and someone needs to sort it out - it"s just so tedious to watch.
Mega paid under performers.
England looked good against the despicable West Indies in the Tests - but now look more like a jellyfish.
They rolled over Pakistan (who played terribly).
It reminds me of how England used to be at football ... bumble along ... beat weak foes and crumble against the stronger teams ...
Capello now looks to have it well sorted ...
... who is going to sort it for English cricket?
Louis
Don"t think anyone has said it"s a coin flip, depends on which team is dominating the game, very difficult to change the course of the game when it"s going away from you.
The batsmen will try to play the ball to the areas where there is space, gaining two rather than one, a lot of this space is square of the wicket, hence the shots in this direction.
I have a personal opinion on KP, great player to have in the team, but is not a Captain. Let him get on with his job and stroll around like a show pony, he"s got the talent and can get away with it. If fit, Flintoff would have been the 20/20 Captain.
Most cricketers are not Mega paid, this is a 20/20 competition, view it in some perspective for what it is, a short form of the game which is entertaining, draws the crowds in and is fun.
Good to see the despicable Windies outplay India tonight ;D
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okay it was only Ireland ;)
hoi we got further than the Aussies
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Collingwood isn"t the right captain for 20/20 or anything - thoughts?
agree. Though to be fair Colly is captain by default rather than selection. Unfortunately our best captains are not good enough T20 players and KP has burned his bridges for the time being.
Can"t agree about Captain"s in 20/20, with the short game the captaincy doesn"t really come into it. With a 6 over power play the benefit is with the Batsmen, as the infield can be beaten and runs scored easily. It becomes a bowlers game when early wickets are taken and the pressure increases to score quick runs.
You can"t really set a field to defend runs in 20/20 or make bowling changes to turn a game around. It"s basically a lottery and the team that gets the momentum will win, this was South Africa yesterday. If England had got the momentum then Graeme Smith"s captaincy wouldn"t have made any difference.
Interesting points - it"s not just a coin flip for me - S Africa defended a very small target against NZ.
Astute bowlers adapt
Batsmen can adapt too ... why apart from Pietersen do the English batsmen get so obsessed with playing square of the wicket?
Don"t get me wrong Pietersen is England"s best player ... but he unsettles the weak around him - when he fails they fail.
He should be the captain - but blew his feet off in a Roy Keane style huff - and someone needs to sort it out - it"s just so tedious to watch.
Mega paid under performers.
England looked good against the despicable West Indies in the Tests - but now look more like a jellyfish.
They rolled over Pakistan (who played terribly).
It reminds me of how England used to be at football ... bumble along ... beat weak foes and crumble against the stronger teams ...
Capello now looks to have it well sorted ...
... who is going to sort it for English cricket?
Louis
Don"t think anyone has said it"s a coin flip, depends on which team is dominating the game, very difficult to change the course of the game when it"s going away from you.
The batsmen will try to play the ball to the areas where there is space, gaining two rather than one, a lot of this space is square of the wicket, hence the shots in this direction.
I have a personal opinion on KP, great player to have in the team, but is not a Captain. Let him get on with his job and stroll around like a show pony, he"s got the talent and can get away with it. If fit, Flintoff would have been the 20/20 Captain.
Most cricketers are not Mega paid, this is a 20/20 competition, view it in some perspective for what it is, a short form of the game which is entertaining, draws the crowds in and is fun.
Good to see the despicable Windies outplay India tonight ;D
It was described as a lottery ... which I suppose is more random than a coin flip!
West Indies want to play the 20/20 ... and pretty impressive so far.
In the Tests they didn"t turn up ... which is "criminal" in professional sport.
First cricket I ever watched on TV was the "84 series England Vs West Indies.
They were an amazing side - but it was an epic fight in individual tests - there was real pride at stake.
Flintoff and Pietersen much more bothered by the IPL dollars ... and both injured (or carrying injuries).
KP - Show pony - part of the problem - he prances about so when he fails it creates a great ripple of what now.
Flintoff would be a good captain in that he would have the balls to make a decision - and the personality to add something to the team.
Flintoff in the last Ashes (in England) - a tremendous performance - but what since from the team?
As a total aside - I was thinking about Eddie Hemmings the other night - would have been interesting in the 20/20 game.
Louis
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Mega paid under performers.
under performers, possibly
mega paid??? surely not
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"As a total aside - I was thinking about Eddie Hemmings the other night"
Now Louis, that is worrying!!! :D
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"As a total aside - I was thinking about Eddie Hemmings the other night"
Now Louis, that is worrying!!! :D
Extremely ;D
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Mega paid under performers.
under performers, possibly
mega paid??? surely not
How much are they paid?
a/ for the 20/20
b/ annual income? (All in)
(I will some research!)
KP - 20/20 income vs performance - massively overpaid I expect.
All the IPL guys overpaid.
If they are going to play the IPL - need to be able to play properly on their central contracts.
In the infamous Stanford event - only one team wanted it - lots of the English apparently didn"t need the money!?!
Feels weird to be playing for your country and being so off the boil.
So happy to say "oh well" ...
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"As a total aside - I was thinking about Eddie Hemmings the other night"
Now Louis, that is worrying!!! :D
You must remember that 4 he hit to win the one day final for Notts ... in "89
One of those hot balmy finals ...
I loved watching those finals - especially when Somerset made it - (Botham, Garner, Richards).
Cricket felt better then ...
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Collingwood Press Conference:
"We are due a good performance" - why?
"The best team doesn"t always win" - true - but is this the best way to prepare?
Aside - have to fancy NZ to beat Pakistan.
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Collingwood Press Conference:
"We are due a good performance" - why?
"The best team doesn"t always win" - true - but is this the best way to prepare?
Aside - have to fancy NZ to beat Pakistan.
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Pakistan on fire ... Affridi just held an amazing catch ... 73-5 (12.3 Overs)
Looks like I will take a shoe"ing on my bet.
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Collingwood Press Conference:
"We are due a good performance" - why?
"The best team doesn"t always win" - true - but is this the best way to prepare?
Aside - have to fancy NZ to beat Pakistan.
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Pakistan on fire ... Affridi just held an amazing catch ... 73-5 (12.3 Overs)
Looks like I will take a shoe"ing on my bet.
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All the momentum with Pakistan, par score at the Oval is 180. Unless NZ bowl out of their skins this group will be wide open !
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Pakistan so hot and cold ... but with tails up looking good ...
I expect they might make a meal of the chase ... but looking like a feeble total.
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Kiwi"s can"t handle the pressure, great bowling by Gul !
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Kiwi"s can"t handle the pressure, great bowling by Gul !
Gul doing a Wasim Akram cameo ... fair play ... nightmare to face straight bowling with late movement ...
Wow 99 all out!
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Kiwi"s can"t handle the pressure, great bowling by Gul !
Gul doing a Wasim Akram cameo ... fair play ... nightmare to face straight bowling with late movement ...
Wow 99 all out!
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Should be a stroll in the park for Pakistan now, only 5 an over. NZ need a miracle.
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NZ start narrow favourites.
Now 16.5/1
I had NZ for most sixes too ... so hopefully they get them in singles!
One to beat!
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Pakistan trying to conjure up an absurd defeat ... would be a classic! 61-3.
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cmon Ireland
(http://www.lanephotography.com/newfoundland_swimwear/irish_flag/irish_flag_swimwear_03.jpg)
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cmon Ireland
Great performance by Ireland, once again pushing their opponents all the way ! Coming out of this tournament with more credit in the International Cricket Scene.
Superb bowling performance by the Irish, against one of the best one day batting teams in the business !!
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Another lacklustre performance with the bat from England, poor shot selection from KP when well set and scoring freely.
Then the batsmen contrive to keep Mascheranes off strike to take away our only potent weapon. Will be difficult to restrict the Indians, the bowlers need to put in a performance that they haven"t been capable of so far !!!
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Another lacklustre performance with the bat from England, poor shot selection from KP when well set and scoring freely.
Then the batsmen contrive to keep Mascheranes off strike to take away our only potent weapon. Will be difficult to restrict the Indians, the bowlers need to put in a performance that they haven"t been capable of so far !!!
On a knife edge ... Broad to bowl the last over ... anything can happen ...
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cmon Ireland
(http://www.lanephotography.com/newfoundland_swimwear/irish_flag/irish_flag_swimwear_03.jpg)
What a weird photo ... get them in a jacuzzi with some cocktails ... then everyone is happy ...
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Well, well, well !!
A good bowling performance by the team and the smartest of stumpings by Foster to remove the dangerman !!
Shoot out with the Windies tomorrow to make the semi-final.
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Well, well, well !!
A good bowling performance by the team and the smartest of stumpings by Foster to remove the dangerman !!
Shoot out with the Windies tomorrow to make the semi-final.
Game on.
Sidebottom looked sharp.
Foster did the biz.
England Vs The Despicables.
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Top bowling effort from the boys, Broad and Arnie in particular!
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Weather not helping England. We have though lost all the momentum after a good start, runs dried up again once Pietersen and Shah depart. Not looking good !
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Duckworth/Lewis FFS can anyone explain that in plain English. ??? ??? ???
Not holding out much hope TBH ;D
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Duckworth/Lewis FFS can anyone explain that in plain English. ??? ??? ???
Not holding out much hope TBH ;D
Two old blokes with too much time on their hands developed a random number generator under the guise of setting fair targets in rain effected matches ...
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Duckworth/Lewis FFS can anyone explain that in plain English. ??? ??? ???
Not holding out much hope TBH ;D
It"s all Irish to me Ger ;D
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Watching the English Ladies vs New Zealand ... some great stuff ... looks like an easy win ... but their spirit and teamwork is spot on ... good to see.
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looking forward to this.
I"m going for a run fest and putting money on it being so...
buy sixes @ 7.5
buy run outs @ 1.6
buy SL first 6 over runs @ 49
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I bet on Sri Lanka to win ... nightmare first over four us both!
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... reasons to hate 20/20 ... 8-2 after 2 Overs ... Jaya might save us ...
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... maybe Malinga might save me ... would be a good turn of events ... looks close now.
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Never close Louis! The Pakistan boys know how to peak at the right time. Boom boom Afridi, top player in the tournament
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... aye fair play to them ... amazing given how they played vs England ...
All my predictions going wrong at the moment ...
Time to retire from gambling/poker ...
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