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Title: Usain Bolt
Post by: duke3016 on August 16, 2009, 20:49:59 PM
FFS 9.58 -- just FFS
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: lukybugur on August 16, 2009, 21:11:18 PM
Awesome!

He"s probably back on the Chicken Nuggets.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: hi_am_chris on August 16, 2009, 23:01:31 PM
great role model too, comes across as a top bloke
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: rubertoe on August 17, 2009, 07:08:29 AM
Just WOW -

He still didnt look like he tried! ??? ???
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 17, 2009, 14:09:00 PM
If you haven"t seen it (and if that"s the case why not!!?), it"s here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8204505.stm

If you have seen it, watch it again!  
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: coprey on August 17, 2009, 15:02:07 PM
It didnt look that fast. Maybe time is slowing down ???
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: SirPercival on August 17, 2009, 20:09:12 PM
I"m looking for odds on him going below 9.50 before or at the next olympics.

anyone know where I can get this, or willing to take the bet?
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: nosey-p on August 17, 2009, 20:12:25 PM

I"m looking for odds on him going below 9.50 before or at the next olympics.

anyone know where I can get this, or willing to take the bet?


Ask  Blatch, he will take a bet on anything
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 17, 2009, 20:31:47 PM


I"m looking for odds on him going below 9.50 before or at the next olympics.

anyone know where I can get this, or willing to take the bet?


Ask  Blatch, he will take a bet on anything


:D
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: duke3016 on August 17, 2009, 20:33:00 PM
And what about Bekele -- never lost a 10k in his life and he won his fourth world title tonight. Take him on in a marathon Dan ?
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 17, 2009, 20:57:22 PM

And what about Bekele -- never lost a 10k in his life and he won his fourth world title tonight. Take him on in a marathon Dan ?


Bekele is phenomenal.  The best distance runner of all time, and hope he does go for the 5,000m as well. 

You really don"t get a proper indication of how fast they are running in the 10,000m.  It"s frightening.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: Waz1892 on August 17, 2009, 21:45:47 PM
with the view that no human can run 100m in say 5 secs for example.....at what point will it get too...

opinions....?

My view point is the techinal side will get quicker....prime example...opening post was WR - 9.58...

say in 5-10 years it will read....9.584....amazing..took 1000"s off the record, etc.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: rubertoe on August 18, 2009, 07:14:09 AM
I cant see the 100m WR going much further bellow 9.4

as for the Enduro Athletes - I got nothing but respect for them!!!
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 18, 2009, 09:07:52 AM
Bekele ran the 10,000m in a little over 26 minutes.  That works out at 16 seconds on average for each of the one hundred 100m he runs during the race.  That"s incredible.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: MintTrav on August 18, 2009, 11:44:28 AM

with the view that no human can run 100m in say 5 secs for example.....at what point will it get too...

opinions....?

My view point is the techinal side will get quicker....prime example...opening post was WR - 9.58...

say in 5-10 years it will read....9.584....amazing..took 1000"s off the record, etc.


Its not the technology - they have been able to time races to much finer degrees of accuracy for ages. Swimming records were in thousandths of a second in the 1970s but this was changed to hundredths as the difference was considered too small to be meaningful in separate races, though the winners of individual races are still sometimes decided in thousandths.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: MintTrav on August 18, 2009, 12:09:55 PM

I"m looking for odds on him going below 9.50 before or at the next olympics.

anyone know where I can get this, or willing to take the bet?


I would prefer to bet on someone breaking 9.50. Gay"s run was also phenomenal and I think he is capable of breaking the new record. Also Gatlin is back next year, though it remains to be seen whether he is still competitive with these two.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 18, 2009, 16:07:34 PM


I"m looking for odds on him going below 9.50 before or at the next olympics.

anyone know where I can get this, or willing to take the bet?


I would prefer to bet on someone breaking 9.50. Gay"s run was also phenomenal and I think he is capable of breaking the new record. Also Gatlin is back next year, though it remains to be seen whether he is still competitive with these two.


Gay was almost two metres behind Bolt!  He needs to knock more than a tenth of a second off his time to get close to Bolt, and he simply isn"t capable of doing that.  Gatlin was never that quick, and the only one who is physically capable of getting under 9.6 other than Bolt is Powell.

(all imo of course).
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: MintTrav on August 18, 2009, 18:40:35 PM



I"m looking for odds on him going below 9.50 before or at the next olympics.

anyone know where I can get this, or willing to take the bet?


I would prefer to bet on someone breaking 9.50. Gay"s run was also phenomenal and I think he is capable of breaking the new record. Also Gatlin is back next year, though it remains to be seen whether he is still competitive with these two.


Gay was almost two metres behind Bolt!  He needs to knock more than a tenth of a second off his time to get close to Bolt, and he simply isn"t capable of doing that.  Gatlin was never that quick, and the only one who is physically capable of getting under 9.6 other than Bolt is Powell.

(all imo of course).


Yeah, the odds are against Gatlin. He wasn"t doing these times back then but neither were these guys. But the standard has moved on, so we"ll see if he can do his thing again. Powell is a strange case. I used to think that he was the man, just didn"t win when he should have, but he has been beaten so many times now. I still think he has it in him but I don"t know that we will ever see it. Gay has improved his time a lot and was only two-hundredths outside Bolt"s Olympic time, which everyone thought was unmatchable. Bolt has only ever twice gone faster than Gay did on Sunday, albeit on the most significant occasions. The way things are going, I think Gay could do 9.6, but I have to agree that the person most likely to break Bolt"s new record is Bolt.
A question for the pedants (no apostrophe) - what is the fastest time in which 100 metres has been run?
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: duke3016 on August 18, 2009, 19:08:57 PM

A question for the pedants (no apostrophe) - what is the fastest time in which 100 metres has been run?


Must be a leg of the 4x100 -- can"t be arsed to look it up tho
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 19, 2009, 22:08:24 PM
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: Marty719 on August 19, 2009, 23:37:37 PM
bolt is 1/50 to win 200m on betfred!  strangely still prob gd value :)
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: Honeybadg on August 20, 2009, 07:12:59 AM

It used to be in the 200m, and it was Michael Johnson (although Bolt might have eclipsed that when he broke the world record for the 200m in Beijing).

BUT, in a 150m straight line run recently, Bolt did a 100m in less than 8 seconds.  So I"m guessing that"s the record.


What was the overall time?

L
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 20, 2009, 09:10:34 AM
14.35

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8054762.stm
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: Marty719 on August 20, 2009, 09:32:43 AM

It used to be in the 200m, and it was Michael Johnson (although Bolt might have eclipsed that when he broke the world record for the 200m in Beijing).

BUT, in a 150m straight line run recently, Bolt did a 100m in less than 8 seconds.  So I"m guessing that"s the record.


link for under 8secs??  I thought it was just under 9?!
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 20, 2009, 10:22:28 AM


It used to be in the 200m, and it was Michael Johnson (although Bolt might have eclipsed that when he broke the world record for the 200m in Beijing).

BUT, in a 150m straight line run recently, Bolt did a 100m in less than 8 seconds.  So I"m guessing that"s the record.


link for under 8secs??  I thought it was just under 9?!


I heard someone talking about it, so no link. Sure they said 7.xx seconds - but might have mis-heard.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: Marty719 on August 20, 2009, 10:29:06 AM
Under 8 wud b lightning!  Never say never - I know he ran 100m in the Manchester 150m in 8.7 sumthing which is crazy crazy fast!!
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: gatso on August 20, 2009, 12:43:48 PM
first 100 was 9.9, last 100 was 8.72
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: coprey on August 20, 2009, 12:48:43 PM
What about the middle 100 :D
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: MintTrav on August 20, 2009, 14:13:48 PM
You"re on the right lines, in that it is the flying start that makes the difference. Given that he was never able to break 10 seconds for the 100m, it is surprising that Johnson"s time for the last 100m of his 200m WR at 9.20 was actually faster than Bolt"s equivalent 9.32, but he was slower over the first 100m. However these are way off the times achieved in relays, where 9 seconds has been broken more than twenty times, most notably by Bailey, Greene & Burrell and four times by Lewis. Carl Lewis still held the two fastest automatically-recorded times, 8.85 & 8.86, right until 2007 when Powell did 8.84.

However, none of these came close to Bob Hayes, who won the 1964 Olympic 100m by a mile, equalling the WR 10.0 despite having the inside lane of a cinders track chewed up by the 10,000m. In the semis, he was the first to break 10 seconds, clocking 9.91, but the time was disallowed due to wind-assistance. He then came from way behind to win the relay almost single-handedly, running the anchor leg in 8.50 despite old technology track, spikes, clothing, training, diet, etc, etc and the disadvantage of having to run in black-&-white. Just to make it a real Alf Tupper moment, he forgot one of his spikes and had to borrow a left one. For some reason I don"t understand, manually-timed 100m have 0.24 added to compare with automatically-recorded. I understand timers" reaction times being added to gun starts, but not to relay splits. Anyway, Hayes" converted time is 8.74. No doubt he was one of the greatest athletes ever. He is the only man to win a gold medal and a Super Bowl and last week became only the second gold-medallist to enter the NFL Hall of Fame.

In the 08 Olympics, Bolt ran 8.98 and Powell 8.70, finally "breaking" Hayes" time. Bolt almost equalled that in his 150m WR this year, covering the final 100m in 8.72. Gay has also broken 9 seconds. For me though, Bob Hayes ran the fastest 100m ever. Here it is:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPDfT0ucUfc&feature=related
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: coprey on August 20, 2009, 14:25:26 PM
OMG that was awesome, and that was in the old days when time was faster. ;)
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 20, 2009, 14:34:13 PM

Under 8 wud b lightning!  Never say never - I know he ran 100m in the Manchester 150m in 8.7 sumthing which is crazy crazy fast!!


8.7 must have been what I heard.  Like you"ve said sub-8 would be ridiculous!

Odds are lengthening on him breaking the 200m record tonight.  Wonder how tired he is, and if the others will be pushing him enough for him to run at his absolute best.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: coprey on August 20, 2009, 14:56:41 PM


Under 8 wud b lightning!  Never say never - I know he ran 100m in the Manchester 150m in 8.7 sumthing which is crazy crazy fast!!


8.7 must have been what I heard.  Like you"ve said sub-8 would be ridiculous!

Odds are lengthening on him breaking the 200m record tonight.  Wonder how tired he is, and if the others will be pushing him enough for him to run at his absolute best.


What channel is this on and at what time. I want to watch this as it happens.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 20, 2009, 16:21:37 PM
http://berlin.iaaf.org/results/racedate=08-20-2009/bydate.html

7:35 our time.

On the BBC, BBC HD if you"ve got it.


(edited because I got the time wrong)
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: coprey on August 20, 2009, 16:39:23 PM

http://berlin.iaaf.org/results/racedate=08-20-2009/bydate.html

8:35 our time.

On the BBC, BBC HD if you"ve got it.


You gotta be kidding, my TV is technologically challenged. :D

Many Thanks
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: kinboshi on August 20, 2009, 16:49:19 PM
Actually, I think that"s 7:35 not 8:35...
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: MintTrav on August 20, 2009, 19:14:52 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8197433.stm
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: coprey on August 20, 2009, 19:37:59 PM
New WR 19.19
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 20, 2009, 19:39:00 PM
Just simply WOW.
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: duke3016 on August 20, 2009, 19:39:15 PM

New WR 19.19



FFS just FFS
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: SirPercival on August 20, 2009, 19:40:30 PM

New WR 19.19



and I think this was posted about 19.19 seconds after
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: lukybugur on August 20, 2009, 19:42:46 PM
Phenomenal!
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: duke3016 on August 20, 2009, 19:45:43 PM
its historic to watch that -- it will be a longggggg time before anyone comes close
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: coprey on August 20, 2009, 19:46:21 PM


New WR 19.19



and I think this was posted about 19.19 seconds after


Well that was a new PB for me. That was simply sensational! Bolt wasn"t bad either  ;D
Title: Re: Usain Bolt
Post by: duke3016 on August 20, 2009, 19:51:20 PM
FFS micheal Johnson thinks he can go under 19 secs