Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => Live Poker => Topic started by: RioRodent on October 02, 2007, 20:25:12 PM
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Des,
Could you post the payout structure for the Regional events please.
I"m sure every effort has been made to ensure that all casino"s will have all information. But, with all the good will in the world that info doesn"t allways reach those who need to know, as can been seen from another thread, ref. Grosvenor Newcastle staff not knowing about the event.
Plus, I would just like to know how it will be split... nosey you see!! ;)
Cheers,
Alan
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This kind of breakdown in communication was the basis of my assumption that at least one casino will insist that its self deal
I hope to be proved wrong though.
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The casinos have been provided with a tournament pack and I will endeavour to publish that for members on Thursday evening, as I am away tomorrow.
To give you an indication of breakdown, an 80 player event would pay as follows:-
1st - £250 + Gold + £75 Seat
2nd - £200 + Silver + £75 Seat
3rd - £150 + Bronze + £75 Seat
4th to 8th - £80 + £75 Seat.
1st to 9th - 9 to 1 Ranking Points respectively.
Grosvenor Casino locations will retain the £75 and forward to the host casino for National seat entry.
Gala Casino locations will award the £75 and qualifying players will be posted a payment link for their National seat.
The events will all be dealer dealt. It is almost inevitable that somewhere along the line, somebody will screw something up. I hope at worst that involves a Casino being a dealer short owing to illness or similar, but we will be looking for constructive member feedback on as many of the events as possible to ensure we can work on any negative experiences directly with the casinos.
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Hello,
Looking forward to Plymouth on Saturday but concerned that they might not have a full complement of dealers.
I shall feedback and let you know how it goes!
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Will the Grosvenor casinos allow people to take the £75 as cash if they don"t want the seat?
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Will the Grosvenor casinos allow people to take the £75 as cash if they don"t want the seat?
Good Question
I would only really want the seat if it was for the Welsh one
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I was also thinking that as their will be a regional championship to get points for, some people will want to enter for the points and the good tournament structure etc., but not for the seat.
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This kind of breakdown in communication was the basis of my assumption that at least one casino will insist that its self deal
I hope to be proved wrong though.
And of course they all know that since it"s an APAT tourney it must start on time and all breaks end on time!
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This kind of breakdown in communication was the basis of my assumption that at least one casino will insist that its self deal
I hope to be proved wrong though.
And of course they all know that since it"s an APAT tourney it must start on time and all breaks end on time!
can i pre-order steak dianne & chips for the lunch break :-\
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This kind of breakdown in communication was the basis of my assumption that at least one casino will insist that its self deal
I hope to be proved wrong though.
And of course they all know that since it"s an APAT tourney it must start on time and all breaks end on time!
can i pre-order steak dianne & chips for the lunch break :-\
Can I pre-order dianne -- and put the steak and chips on hold
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Will the Grosvenor casinos allow people to take the £75 as cash if they don"t want the seat?
Good Question
I would only really want the seat if it was for the Welsh one
i agree it would be an advantage if they did pay out at all venues and those who want/are able to use the seat in the nationals should then pay thier fee from the winnings. i know that if i am lucky enough to win a seat i may not be able to use it as i work shifts and can not guarantee to be off that weekend or able to get the shifts swapped at short notice.
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Just spoke to card room manager in plymouth and they are not going to be dealer delt????? and only 3000 chips thought the apat was about skill coming through it wont with 3000. And cant pre book so 2 hour drive could be waisted um prefere last year!!
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Without being an expert on the matter Wizza, surely you can appreciate not feasible to have 10000 chips deepstack tournament for the regionals. 3000 chips and the blinds what they are, is pretty good for a £20 tournament. (A skill factor of 5 out of 6 if I remember correctly from another post) And as for thinking season 1 was better, I think you may be on your own there.
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Could of quite easly made it 5000 tourny starts at 2.30 30 min blinds means your allin after only 2 hours (or less) 60 hands well thats not much play id agree if u had 500 players but plymouth will be 80 max!! So not worth the drive really so will be very regional.
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Had a quick look at details.
30 minute clock, fair structure, no running ante. £20 fair.
3000 chips i think is fairly standard for most freeze-out comp"s up to £300.
I like the idea of ranking points, even if only 9 people turn up and further qualification into another final. (plus medals for top 3)
Any initiative for the casual player must be encouraged. A 2 hours drive is a put off i suppose, unless you get a group of others to come and play.
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Dont forget the buffet
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With 80 players at £20.00 each, totaling £1600.00 and taking away the £1300.00 payout structure.
What happens to the £300.00 left over?
Does this constitute a £3.75/player registration fee. (I thought BlueSq were scrapping the registration fee) or does it go to the APAT?
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With 80 players at £20.00 each, totaling £1600.00 and taking away the £1300.00 payout structure.
What happens to the £300.00 left over?
Does this constitute a £3.75/player registration fee. (I thought BlueSq were scrapping the registration fee) or does it go to the APAT?
Someone needs a new calculator, 1st to 3rd, 250 + 200 + 150 = 600, 4th to 8th, 5 x 80 = 400, £75 seat x 8 = 600
Grand total £1600
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Could of quite easly made it 5000 tourny starts at 2.30 30 min blinds means your allin after only 2 hours (or less) 60 hands well thats not much play id agree if u had 500 players but plymouth will be 80 max!! So not worth the drive really so will be very regional.
Show me another £20, dealer-dealt tournament, with no juice, with a structure as good as this?
Oh, and free grub ;D
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free grub!? ding ding ding!!
is it definetly dealer dealt? im scared of making a tit of myself if its self dealing :"(
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They SHOULD all be dealer dealt, and they certainly will be long-term. Might be some problems at the weekend that mean that some aren"t.
Don"t worry if you"ve never dealt or shuffled before. Everyone starts somewhere. I can"t deal or shuffle well. Best way to shuffle is to mix the cards in the same way dealers do, rather than worry about fancy riffles that don"t actually produce a random shuffle anywhere near as well as just mixing the cards randomly on the table in a big mess.
If it"s self-deal, there"s usually someone at the table who will volunteer to deal every hand. I think this affects their game, but some are still willing. If not, when it comes round to you, you can ask someone else to shuffle for you, announce that you"re a novice at live play (say you play loads online, so that they know you can actually play the game), and they"ll have to just bear with you.
Dealing is easier than you think, and just take your time. After you"ve done it a few times you"ll be wondering what you were worried about!
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sounds sensible.... ta
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I"ve only ever once been on a table where somebody got annoyed about anyones dealing but (a) he was generally an unpleasant person anyway, (b) he criticised absolutely everybodys shuffling (so showing he wasn"t actually particularly annoyed with me he was just having a go at everybody) and (c) he got so annoyed about people not meeting his exacting standards that he insisted he had to deal.
So there isn"t really anything to worry about; it won"t be as hard as you think, hardly anyone will particularly mind anyway - and if you do get someone who takes offence they probably aren"t the kind of people who"s opinion you should be taking any notice of anyway.
and Kin - 7 riffle shuffles creates a statistically random deck (I read it, it must be true)
EDIT: and of course these ones should be dealer dealt, so the situation shouldn"t arise. :)
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Could of quite easly made it 5000 tourny starts at 2.30 30 min blinds means your allin after only 2 hours (or less) 60 hands well thats not much play id agree if u had 500 players but plymouth will be 80 max!! So not worth the drive really so will be very regional.
Show me another £20, dealer-dealt tournament, with no juice, with a structure as good as this?
Oh, and free grub ;D
Hear hear. As posted elsewhere, a skill factor of 5 out of 6. Great value. bring it on
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I can"t deal, shuffle or play well.
FYP ;D
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and Kin - 7 riffle shuffles creates a statistically random deck (I read it, it must be true)
I know several people who can riffle a deck a number of times, and all the cards return to exactly where they started.
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I can"t deal, shuffle or play well.
FYP ;D
I"m not a bad dealer actually.
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and Kin - 7 riffle shuffles creates a statistically random deck (I read it, it must be true)
I know several people who can riffle a deck a number of times, and all the cards return to exactly where they started.
8 perfect riffles - the 7 being statistically random is based on the fact that most people won"t do perfect riffles.
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You can do it with two. What I"m saying that in the hands of someone who"s skilled, it"s not random at all.
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I was invited to a home game a few years ago and was introduced to a magician. He took the deck of cards off me, stripped and riffled them, and then dealt in order around the table ah to 8h
Suffice to say, he wasn"t allowed to deal.
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You can do it with two. What I"m saying that in the hands of someone who"s skilled, it"s not random at all.
They are not "riffle shuffling"... they are cheating! :P
Or call it magic if you like. :D
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You can do it with two. What I"m saying that in the hands of someone who"s skilled, it"s not random at all.
They are not "riffle shuffling"... they are cheating! :P
Or call it magic if you like. :D
along the lines of what I was going to say :)
I meant with people genuinely shuffling - not fixing it.