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Whaling about
« on: February 24, 2014, 18:05:32 PM »
PokerStars Hand #112275119022: Tournament #866160397, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (125/250) - 2014/02/23 14:48:27 WET [2014/02/23 9:48:27 ET]
Table "866160397 52" 8-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Mark_Port157 (9187 in chips)
Seat 2: lanciafan (10932 in chips)
Seat 3: pewpewvich (5372 in chips)
Seat 4: TilThou$e (4971 in chips)
Seat 5: gyuszi7823 (6441 in chips)
Seat 6: erfurter18 (1191 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: mmppoker (17178 in chips)
Seat 8: ImNWPO93 (20406 in chips)
Mark_Port157: posts the ante 30
lanciafan: posts the ante 30
pewpewvich: posts the ante 30
TilThou$e: posts the ante 30
gyuszi7823: posts the ante 30
erfurter18: posts the ante 30
mmppoker: posts the ante 30
ImNWPO93: posts the ante 30
mmppoker: posts small blind 125
ImNWPO93: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mark_Port157 [ 10c 10s]
Mark_Port157: raises 250 to 500
lanciafan: folds
pewpewvich: folds
TilThou$e: folds
gyuszi7823: folds
erfurter18: folds
mmppoker: calls 375
ImNWPO93: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 3c 4h]
mmppoker: bets 750
Mark_Port157: calls 750
*** TURN *** [Qh 3c 4h] [4c]
mmppoker: checks
Mark_Port157: bets 1305
mmppoker: calls 1305
*** RIVER *** [Qh 3c 4h 4c] [4d]
mmppoker: bets 5500
Mark_Port157:

Villain is a huge whale. Rofling about playing 42/19 over 60 hands. OPR shows him as new to poker. Been doing all manner of weird and wonderful things. Has ran a couple of weird bluffs, I couldn"t remember sizing though. Seems very unlikely to ever fold a pair. A lunatic who is clearly loving the game - active in chat.

We have been warring a fair bit, my image is pretty snug though in comparison.

I think flop and turn are very standard. Bets pot on the river though... enough heart draws and lower houses to hero or fold?


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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 19:24:26 PM »
Has he been raising plenty when mediocre showdown?

Seems a pretty big shift from check-calling turn to donking river. You"d think if he was slowplaying (which could include a Q in his mind) he"d check raise the turn - there"s no real difference in hand strength for a made hand which makes the gear change very suspicious.

So there"s enough draws and doubt in my mind to cross my fingers and call (outside of any ICM considerations).
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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 19:50:44 PM »
He has donked all three streets.

He had seemed to slow down some what by the time it gets to the river in most pots previously. No ICM considerations needed - think it was about 50 spots off the money.

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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 20:33:11 PM »

He has donked all three streets.


He c/c the turn.

I probably call off vs a player of this type and make a note
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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 20:38:10 PM »


He has donked all three streets.


He c/c the turn.

I probably call off vs a player of this type and make a note


Ha, oops.

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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 20:42:49 PM »
PokerStars Hand #112346549721: Tournament #870518353, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (700/1400) - 2014/02/24 20:17:07 WET [2014/02/24 15:17:07 ET]
Table "870518353 23" 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ivan-s@n (37320 in chips)
Seat 3: occlusion86 (24254 in chips)
Seat 4: wes345 (49856 in chips)
Seat 5: 2MuchSk1LL (64221 in chips)
Seat 6: Johnnie Fart (77299 in chips)
Seat 7: Rafa_COSTABR (19435 in chips)
Seat 8: PapaBear0258 (51026 in chips)
Seat 9: Mark_Port157 (87625 in chips)
ivan-s@n: posts the ante 175
occlusion86: posts the ante 175
wes345: posts the ante 175
2MuchSk1LL: posts the ante 175
Johnnie Fart: posts the ante 175
Rafa_COSTABR: posts the ante 175
PapaBear0258: posts the ante 175
Mark_Port157: posts the ante 175
ivan-s@n: posts small blind 700
occlusion86: posts big blind 1400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mark_Port157 [7c As]
wes345: folds
2MuchSk1LL: folds
Johnnie Fart: folds
Rafa_COSTABR: folds
PapaBear0258: raises 1400 to 2800
Mark_Port157: raises 3095 to 5895
ivan-s@n: folds
occlusion86: folds
PapaBear0258: calls 3095
*** FLOP *** [8d 7s Qd]
PapaBear0258: checks
Mark_Port157: bets 6885
PapaBear0258: calls 6885
*** TURN *** [8d 7s Qd] [3h]
PapaBear0258: bets 2800
Mark_Port157: calls 2800
*** RIVER *** [8d 7s Qd 3h] [4d]
PapaBear0258: bets 4200
Mark_Port157: raises 5815 to 10015
PapaBear0258: calls 5815
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mark_Port157: shows [7c As] (a pair of Sevens)
PapaBear0258: shows [8c Jc] (a pair of Eights)
PapaBear0258 collected 54690 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 54690 | Rake 0
Board [8d 7s Qd 3h 4d]
Seat 1: ivan-s@n (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: occlusion86 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: wes345 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: 2MuchSk1LL folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: Johnnie Fart folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 7: Rafa_COSTABR folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: PapaBear0258 showed [8c Jc] and won (54690) with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: Mark_Port157 (button) showed [7c As] and lost with a pair of Sevens

Someone tell me I"m the worst.

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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 21:56:54 PM »

PokerStars Hand #112346549721: Tournament #870518353, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (700/1400) - 2014/02/24 20:17:07 WET [2014/02/24 15:17:07 ET]
Table "870518353 23" 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ivan-s@n (37320 in chips)
Seat 3: occlusion86 (24254 in chips)
Seat 4: wes345 (49856 in chips)
Seat 5: 2MuchSk1LL (64221 in chips)
Seat 6: Johnnie Fart (77299 in chips)
Seat 7: Rafa_COSTABR (19435 in chips)
Seat 8: PapaBear0258 (51026 in chips)
Seat 9: Mark_Port157 (87625 in chips)
ivan-s@n: posts the ante 175
occlusion86: posts the ante 175
wes345: posts the ante 175
2MuchSk1LL: posts the ante 175
Johnnie Fart: posts the ante 175
Rafa_COSTABR: posts the ante 175
PapaBear0258: posts the ante 175
Mark_Port157: posts the ante 175
ivan-s@n: posts small blind 700
occlusion86: posts big blind 1400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mark_Port157 [7c As]
wes345: folds
2MuchSk1LL: folds
Johnnie Fart: folds
Rafa_COSTABR: folds
PapaBear0258: raises 1400 to 2800
Mark_Port157: raises 3095 to 5895
ivan-s@n: folds
occlusion86: folds
PapaBear0258: calls 3095
*** FLOP *** [8d 7s Qd]
PapaBear0258: checks
Mark_Port157: bets 6885
PapaBear0258: calls 6885
*** TURN *** [8d 7s Qd] [3h]
PapaBear0258: bets 2800
Mark_Port157: calls 2800
*** RIVER *** [8d 7s Qd 3h] [4d]
PapaBear0258: bets 4200
Mark_Port157: raises 5815 to 10015
PapaBear0258: calls 5815
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mark_Port157: shows [7c As] (a pair of Sevens)
PapaBear0258: shows [8c Jc] (a pair of Eights)
PapaBear0258 collected 54690 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 54690 | Rake 0
Board [8d 7s Qd 3h 4d]
Seat 1: ivan-s@n (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: occlusion86 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: wes345 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: 2MuchSk1LL folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: Johnnie Fart folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 7: Rafa_COSTABR folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: PapaBear0258 showed [8c Jc] and won (54690) with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: Mark_Port157 (button) showed [7c As] and lost with a pair of Sevens

Someone tell me I"m the worst.


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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 22:26:02 PM »
 Was river for value?
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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 23:12:48 PM »

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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 11:08:34 AM »
I assume his two small turn and river bets are to try and control the pot size. Did you deem these to be block bets at the time?

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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2014, 12:06:03 PM »

I assume his two small turn and river bets are to try and control the pot size. Did you deem these to be block bets at the time?


His hand just looked a lot like what it was - a one pair hand trying to get to showdown.

I would play some diamond flush draws like that on the turn. I wouldn"t want to raise fold them and raise - get it in might be a bit thin so would call relatively often then raise river when the flush hits.

I don"t think the line is ridiculous, a tad spewy though. I thought he would struggle to call with a queen, let alone an 8. Turns out he was a fish and didn"t fold any pairs ever. I probably shouldn"t have done this when he had been at the table about 3 hands and I was readless.

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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2014, 12:07:37 PM »


Errrrrr.....


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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2014, 12:34:00 PM »



Errrrrr.....


I post these hands so I am not accused of being a huge nit any more! I do play some hands well - honest.

Send more money, k thanks bye.


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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2014, 13:38:56 PM »


I assume his two small turn and river bets are to try and control the pot size. Did you deem these to be block bets at the time?


His hand just looked a lot like what it was - a one pair hand trying to get to showdown.

I would play some diamond flush draws like that on the turn. I wouldn"t want to raise fold them and raise - get it in might be a bit thin so would call relatively often then raise river when the flush hits.

I don"t think the line is ridiculous, a tad spewy though. I thought he would struggle to call with a queen, let alone an 8. Turns out he was a fish and didn"t fold any pairs ever. I probably shouldn"t have done this when he had been at the table about 3 hands and I was readless.


I"d have struggled to fold a pair getting about 8-1 on the river. If you are gonna bluff a fish you have really got to make it stick and probably should bluff raise the turn bet rather than the really small raise on the river.

But preflop is so unnecessary with what is a terrible hand, but I guess you know this.
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Re: Whaling about
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2014, 14:23:23 PM »



I assume his two small turn and river bets are to try and control the pot size. Did you deem these to be block bets at the time?


His hand just looked a lot like what it was - a one pair hand trying to get to showdown.

I would play some diamond flush draws like that on the turn. I wouldn"t want to raise fold them and raise - get it in might be a bit thin so would call relatively often then raise river when the flush hits.

I don"t think the line is ridiculous, a tad spewy though. I thought he would struggle to call with a queen, let alone an 8. Turns out he was a fish and didn"t fold any pairs ever. I probably shouldn"t have done this when he had been at the table about 3 hands and I was readless.


I"d have struggled to fold a pair getting about 8-1 on the river. If you are gonna bluff a fish you have really got to make it stick and probably should bluff raise the turn bet rather than the really small raise on the river.

But preflop is so unnecessary with what is a terrible hand, but I guess you know this.


Oh, I think pre is ok.. seems like a decent hand to have as a 3bet bluff, blockers... will have position when called. . It all goes wrong from flop onwards, not 3balling random aces like this that often though.





Errrrrr.....


I post these hands so I am not accused of being a huge nit any more! I do play some hands well - honest.

Send more money, k thanks bye.


Have you been speaking to Perry?


I have hired Perry as my new poker/life coach. At the moment we are working on bluffing unexploitably..