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Snapper's gonna snap
mporter123:
--- Quote from: SirPercival on December 14, 2011, 20:09:47 PM ---
Did you know who "villain" was at the time?
If so, did this change your thinking?
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I did not know personally but recognised name from the forum so assumed a certain level of competency given postings on PHA board.
I think that some of the hands after this influenced my OP re the 3 bets. Perhaps was a little less active at this point then initially thought. I call in this spot 9/10 times as there are enough Jx hands to make it easily profitable. Found enough reasons to fold in this case - perhaps based on a misread.
dwh103:
Betting 345 into 750 and then 615 into 1440 is far too small imo. I"d be firing 550 minimum on the flop, and then setting up for a 1300-1500 turn bet and then perhaps a river shove.
Obv it"s a pretty standard spot, raise pre and then c-bet when checked to. This is a decent board to be c-betting - I would be 100% of the time. However by betting this board your range is reasonably polarised. Am going by your description of yourself, but the majority of your range is either top pair or better, or nothing.
You should be betting a little bigger than normal if your range is polarised. If you have nothing, you"re making it harder for hands beating you to call (not necessarily here, but on the turn also). If you have a hand, then you want to get more value - when I see the flop I"m looking at this hand as a double-up hand.
As played, getting 3:1 on the river I snap call. You cannot pass this hand on this board without a serious read (and your description of the Villain is not nitty!), especially given you still beat everything aside from a handful of hands.
I would agree with DaSnapper"s that your analysis of his 3-bet range is incorrect. Also, your c-bet strategy (if you always give up after one bullet), that could be a leak - a good player should crush you. If firing one bullet is going to be your standard, then you need to balance your range by checking turn in situations like this hand, before bluff-catching or value betting river.
Having said that, it is $10 APAT level, so you wouldn"t want to overthink these things too much or you"ll just level yourself bigtime :)
deanp27:
Well the answer doesn"t include folding. Also not sure I"ve seen any APAT player 4betting light etc by the 50/100 level.
If you aren"t sure just call
dwh103:
--- Quote from: deanp27 on December 14, 2011, 21:42:36 PM ---
Well the answer doesn"t include folding. Also not sure I"ve seen any APAT player 4betting light etc by the 50/100 level.
If you aren"t sure just call
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This made me LOL :D
Wish everyone followed this all the time!
mporter123:
--- Quote from: dwh103 on December 14, 2011, 21:08:44 PM ---
Also, your c-bet strategy (if you always give up after one bullet), that could be a leak - a good player should crush you. If firing one bullet is going to be your standard, then you need to balance your range by checking turn in situations like this hand, before bluff-catching or value betting river.
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Mis-interpreted my OP here. Firing only one bullet is far from my standard line. It just so happened that I got in a few spots here where I thought that firing a second bullet here was not the correct play against certain players. I knew it had given me a weak table image at the time.
I am not sure I completely agree with the "reasonably polarised range" bit either - also not sure I completely understand it! My range is far from top pair or better or nothing - as you said I will be C betting this type of board 100% of the time.
I C bet all my middle pairs, suited connector type hands that can improve, Ax type hands etc etc
I like C betting smaller when I open button / cut off / hi jack with all of my range on these type of boards. Not sure how to phrase the arguement for it being good though tbh.
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