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Newportlad:
For what its worth, i just like calling with AK here in the SB and seeing the flop. As has been stated previously, there are certain to be AX and KX in hands already, so your chances of hitting arent great and most importantly you are OOP.  If you make a big raise and get called, what are you doing when you miss here?  If you check to the 10 high board, then you are pretty clearly stating that you have AK, but by c.betting you are going to have to put a lot of your starting stack £150 into the pot on what is essentially a bluff. 
I just like trying to keep the pot small preflop as you are in a bad spot. No harm in just throwing the AK away if you miss the flop.

TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: Newportlad on May 03, 2012, 21:31:32 PM ---
For what its worth, i just like calling with AK here in the SB and seeing the flop. As has been stated previously, there are certain to be AX and KX in hands already, so your chances of hitting arent great and most importantly you are OOP.  If you make a big raise and get called, what are you doing when you miss here?  If you check to the 10 high board, then you are pretty clearly stating that you have AK, but by c.betting you are going to have to put a lot of your starting stack £150 into the pot on what is essentially a bluff. 
I just like trying to keep the pot small preflop as you are in a bad spot. No harm in just throwing the AK away if you miss the flop.

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Its an option ok but its not all good. AK plays much better heads up so the less players see a flop the better.

We build a pot by raising pre so we can potentially win a huge pot when we do hit. I wouldn"t agree that it"s a certainty limpers hold Ax and Kx hands, somewhat likely ok certain, no. < Noble insert probability link here >

Also and significantly, we run the increased risk of getting outflopped when we do hit and are second best, the expensive place on the poker podium.

Not sure it matters much in this game but your SB raising range is super strong if AK isn"t included.

Mikeyboy9361:
I know what you are saying about thinning the field, but AK OOP in these cash games can land you in very expensive tricky positions, just like this. That is why flatting was definitely an option. As played I think you pretty much have to lead out, and fold to any raise, but hope to see a cheap turn and river!

WYoung83:
 (I replied to this other day but it was when the server was slow)

Anyway flatting is not the best line imo. It seems like negative play. Also i would personally raise bigger than £30. Maybe £40, trouble with live cash is that 3 betting small get peeled by more than 1 player, and thats a disaster taking this had 4 ways. If you hit A in 4 way pot your oop which makes it really hard to play. I would be hapy to take the dead money here or even play for stacks, if i get 5 bet.

(Just read whole thread).... yeh lead out now, bad flop for u, no real back doors and no big cards at all, in these games its hard to get people to fold pairs. Have to fold if he shoves on you.

AAroddersAA:
OK, Brendan is betting (I would also do this), Noble is checking (although I don"t think he had given up yet).

Anyway, we bet the flop as per Brendan we are leading £35 into £57. The OR calls (damn) and the other players folds. The turn pops - Qd

Its us to speak, pot is £127 out stack is £88

What now? Why? What do we think he has

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