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What would You Do ??????
WYoung83:
I would actually shove this turn. Pretty hard for it to have helped his hand, and certainly improves your range from his POV. A Shove looks so strong here, i cant do EV calcs, (just tried and got confused lol)
Santino67:
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I would actually shove this turn. Pretty hard for it to have helped his hand, and certainly improves your range from his POV. A Shove looks so strong here, i cant do EV calcs, (just tried and got confused lol)
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Tend to think same here. You"ve shown strength pre and on flop, though knowledge of particular oppenent would help.
noble1:
--- Quote from: WYoung83 on May 05, 2012, 22:40:45 PM ---
I would actually shove this turn. Pretty hard for it to have helped his hand, and certainly improves your range from his POV. A Shove looks so strong here, i cant do EV calcs, (just tried and got confused lol)
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give it a go, post it and ask if its correct... [best way to learn]
as a quick rough estimate, with a possible 10 outs versus a range of say TT for a set , 99 and JJ equity wise AK would be around the 17% area + or - a percent.. if jamming the turn and u think villain will fold 15 to 20% ish of the time then u will break even EV wise.. some1 give the EV calc a bash, as a base guide the pot is 127 and 88 behind -> 88/215=41% so u"d want 41 folds to break even if u have no outs whatsoever...
all on reads, as the villain isolated 2 limpers his flop calling a 3bet range would be likely TT+ and maybe a % of air with over-cards which he might float with [but we have no reads to make that assumption]
u could maybe with reads say he isolated with 99 maybe 88, AT met be a likely candidate in villains isolation range, but to calll a 3bet? hell if i know :)
all on reads, its hard to guess what he has based on hardly no info, jamming the turn is a option but not a wildly profitable one given the lack of knowledge imo... if u were playing these opponents on a regular basis then g-bucks wise by giving our hand a perceived range and comparing it to our opponents range, u could look at this completely differently in the long term, but at this level though do u need to play like that to make money?
Fatcatstu:
I would jam this turn and feel sick when he calls.
I realise that we have put a bit of money in, but surely there comes a point when we kind of say "ok, well done" and give up? Yes we leave ourselves open to be outplayed, but that is the risk you run playing out of position i suppose.
Meh, not sure what to do here, i think actually giving up most of the time feels right here, just not seeing what he has called with that we are gonna make lay down.
ALTHOUGH 80 odd-notes is a fair bit of money... could convice him to lay down.
My god....im confused.
PHIL_TC:
Raise pre to £30
Bet the flop.. hmmmm however putting myself in oppo"s shoes, given the positions, would be expecting C-bet large % of the time, so as long as I feel I still have show down or ahead (pretty likely on that flop) then I"m calling. So maybe checking is the right move.. I"d go on past history here to see what I could get away with. Can"t see the oppo going away at all here though. Feel like I"m flipping for the hand at this point.
Turn. I don"t see any sense in jamming here at all. If I felt I was flipping on the flop, why would I now jam in on the turn? Makes no sense. Oppo obviously feels they have value in the hand, I can"t see them going away here.
Personally I would think that I"ve put enough in the pot here already, check and be prepared to fold but hoping to see the river... if not seek a waitress and order another Guinness x
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