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AQ stars 180 man
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on May 22, 2012, 00:35:46 AM ---
The turn gives me 2 pair, and i got a little sicky feeling in my stomach, but i had already made my mind up that i was getting it in unless something compelling told me not to. It didnt, so i followed my usual reasoning of "well im not folding, so if they want to see the river then they are paying it all :p I dont see the point in messing about the issue!
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I can see myself making the same play in the same situation a lot and it is often easily the best play.
But as Noble says we should be putting our opponent on a hand range and asking what is the best play against that range if hands. In this case the shove almost seems to get a lot of hands that we beat to fold and get a lot of hands we lose to to call. It is a cooler as we are ahead a lot more than we are behind but here we should be thinking about winning the maximum. What are we making him pay for? If he had a draw he just got there and a set is not going to fold. The only thing we want to pay is the flush draw which is not really likely. Just something that is worth considering I think.
Paulie_D:
That"s why I prefer the 3 bet pre, it"s early enough in the comp to let him define his hand and we have position anyway.
In the absence of any information we have to assume that he"s got something fairly strong when he raises pre-flop and when he gets a caller he plays it stupid with a min c-bet?
Screams massive strength to me.
Marty719:
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on May 22, 2012, 10:27:10 AM ---
That"s why I prefer the 3 bet pre, it"s early enough in the comp to let him define his hand and we have position anyway.
In the absence of any information we have to assume that he"s got something fairly strong when he raises pre-flop and when he gets a caller he plays it stupid with a min c-bet?
Screams massive strength to me.
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3b sizing?
How do we react readless when 4b?
How do we continue when he peels (ie what are good/bad textures)?
Also, in the absence of any information, I would be more inclined to see a raise pre, min cbet line as an attempt at cheap show down as it is a non-standard value line.
Fatcatstu:
Cheers Noble and Rodders, that all makes alot of sense actually :) Now i think about it, this is stuff i tell other people, all the time, i definately got carried away here.
I limp in with AQ because i dont want to fold a reasonably strong hand pre if i am 4bet, which i suppose is also quite fishy now i come to think about it.
pokerpops:
WSZ10 obviously knows how to play Jacks :-)
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