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Time to be a hero?
TheSnapper:
Fold
WYoung83:
Im in the fold side also. Board texture is not looking like hes gonna bluff, his line looks real strong and thats all you can beat is a bluff.
Well i guess u can beat J9ss, thats the only value hand he has, but his river bet looks a little large for a Jack.
noble1:
--- Quote ---Only have 32 hands on him but he is playing 32/15, peeling lots in and out of position and is yet to three bet. Not seen him get to showdown very often, seems to play fairly straightforward through the streets.
--- End quote ---
peeling lots in and out of position - so basically he has raised 5 pre and called a raise 5 times, but u have seen the odd hand go to showdown..
i think you would probably get more insight if u posted the 10 hands he has played before this one and asked the thread what sort of assumptions they might make on this player, see if the thread might recognise tendencies that u are missing etc etc..
paste the selected hands into a replayer then see what conclusions the thread would come to with this hand...
there is no magical hero call pill to make sure you always lay down the losers but never lay down a winner.... a good feel will come through studying your opponents and gaining more and more experience and hopefully u will get more right than wrong. :)
think through the likely holdings of your opponent and consider now and then giving them credit for the hand they are representing, its a fine line getting to get it right, making a good lay down is just as an important skill as hero calling :)
other thoughts - to get beyond being a good ABC poker player don"t be overly rigid in your thinking, don"t dismiss folding as weakness, actually it takes a strong player to make tough folds..
mporter123:
When he bets the river I timebanked it for ages and tried to put him on exact hands. I am basically only bluff catching now. I think he folds AKo on the turn. He could have AK of spades but would expect a 3bet pre. Its a possibility though. I think there"s a lot of flush draws there. Ax of spades, suited connectors.
The only hands I could put him on that beat me were 8s9s or AsKs. I think he just checks all his two pairs now, raises sets on flop/turn.
Will have a look at some of the other hands I have on him.
AMRN:
This is a fold for me (a sigh fold, but def a fold). At this level people rarely turn their missed draws into big bluffs with absolute air on the river having check/called on flop and turn. I doubt that one pair is ever ahead here, and he probably shows up with a badly played AK.
FWIW, I probably also cbet the flop, but when you"ve hit the turn, you now have great showdown value and position. Agreed that we should always look to get more chips in when ahead, and that aggro is nearly always better then conservative, however this might also be a decent spot to check for pot control, albeit if he is drawing you would give him a free card. In this particular spot a check on the turn might induce more bluffs on the river, and you would probably feel a lot better making a hero call of a bet of around 700 rather than 2100 from your 4k stack.
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