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H4H - ridiculous
Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: galo5767 on November 28, 2012, 12:29:32 PM ---
WOW I dont think you quite get it. 100 flips = 100 heads is it possible? YES
Is it EVER going to happen? NO, never ever, ever,ever.
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Just
So
Wrong
--- Quote from: galo5767 on November 28, 2012, 12:29:32 PM ---
If so, then I admit it must be my imagination that some sites seemto have more premium hands far too often.
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At last, you get it....it is your imagination.
dwh103:
--- Quote from: galo5767 on November 28, 2012, 12:29:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on November 28, 2012, 11:12:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: galo5767 on November 28, 2012, 10:03:07 AM ---
I dont think any poker site that I have played on is rigged, but there seems to be sites that have far too many premiun hands far too often - is this down to RNGs? I dont know.
If you flip a coin 100 times, and it lands heads 100 times, it doesn"t mean the coin is rigged or faulty. Im afraid it does because this would never ever happen unless you use a dodgy coin.
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Sorry, but that"s crap. If it"s a random flip, it can land either way. There is no mandate within the law of probability or the concept of random, to state that it must land one way or the other - the clue is the random bit.... random means it can fall either way, and if it falls heads 100 times in a row, that does not in itself prove that the coin is faulty.
Similarly, the R in RNG stands for Random. You say that a poker site is not rigged, but that it gives too many premium hands - you contradict yourself there. It"s either rigged to provide lots of premium hands, or it"s random. It can"t be both. (and in this day and age of utter integrity and transparency, I doubt any poker site can afford to be anything other than truly random)
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WOW I dont think you quite get it. 100 flips = 100 heads is it possible? YES
Is it EVER going to happen? NO, never ever, ever,ever.
Are all RNGs the same? If so, then I admit it must be my imagination that some sites seemto have more premium hands far too often.
If all RNGs arent the same, what makes them different and what are the outcomes of these differences?
The integrity and transparency bit - dont be fooled.
I worked in the casino game for about 15 years and although I never seen anything illegal from the casino side, they have tactics that are morally wrong. That doesnt mean all casinos use certain "tricks of the trade" but some certainly do.
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You just haven"t tried often enough. If you can carry out a test an infinite* number of times, if something CAN happen, then it WILL happen. Though I suspect regardless of what anyone might say you"re not interested in thinking any different.
*Actually only 1.2 nonillion times will be required on average to see this result (1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376) - get flipping.
An introduction to Statistics - http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/statistics.html - as a matter of interest it has a section on influencing a random event by skewing the distribution (i.e. rigging the RNG) and over a reasonably small number of events shows how the simplest of confidence tests can identify a skew in the distribution.
Any poker site should be open about giving their RNG to auditors. With the sheer number of hands available any statistical analyst worth their salt should identify the possibility of a flawed RNG.
In my opinion it"s blindingly obvious, if someone is going to steal from you at a poker site - it"s not likely to be from a rigged RNG but from some form of human intervention or fraud.
Paulie_D:
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1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,373 - Heads
1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,374 - Heads
1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,375 - Heads
1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376 - Heads
Online flipping is SO rigged.
galo5767:
*Actually only 1.2 nonillion times will be required on average to see this result (1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376) - get flipping.
Prove it ;D
Ive never read any post on this thread that mentions stealing, in my opinion, some sites want games finished/players out quicker than other sites.
There is no point in me continuing posting on this topic as those who believe, will always believe and those who dont, never will.
In Poker terms, I fold
Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: galo5767 on November 28, 2012, 15:08:59 PM ---
In Poker terms, I fold
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Dealer pulls in folded hand with a sigh of relief and swiftly moves on.
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