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APAT League Hand - No.2
Waz1892:
Loving the feedback already and learning from it, not only from a note taking viewpoint!!
Waz1892:
--- Quote from: Waz1892 on November 14, 2012, 20:57:38 PM ---
I bet 3/4 of the pot and was re-raised.
His range now? Should i be aware of 888 or QQQ now?
Do I call or Re-re raise or shove.
--- End quote ---
Well I choose to go over top once more. My thinking was blurred by my aces, and that I covered him and if I lost I"m back to where I started. Brutally honest, set never entered my head until he shoved on me.
I obv called the 3k odd.
88 was shown.
See from what I have read should have narrowed it down to qq / 88 and then it"s easier fold.
great views and the thoughts that you are all putting into ranges is something I can use and work on more.
So it"s not a bad beat / sob story, I went on to win it so I"m doing something right some of the time!
Swinebag:
Hehe, I was the villain.
You cbet the flop obviously and then I clicked it back. I think you should now be in bluff catching mode.
Call flop reraise then check call turn and river.
You mentioned that you couldn"t get away 5 handed and I agree to some extent, but you should never have committed your stack there on the flop that early in he tourney with 1 pair. The flop was J hi iirc. An "accomplished" (ahem) player will not really stack off with too much that you beat and will probably fold most hands that you beat.
By calling the raise on the flop, you let hands like AJ, QQ and KK value bet the worse hand and other hands may bluff another street, thinking they can get you off AK or maybe AQ.
By 3 betting the flop, I put you on JJ-AA of which one (JJ) was less likely. This made my decision to shove easy as I knew I was getting paid off ( or coolered by JJ)
Well done on winning btw. I think bubbling was about all I deserved last night. I played far from "accomplished" last night, bluffed most of my stack off to Jo, then kept "getting there" to keep myself in it.
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: Waz1892 on November 14, 2012, 23:29:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Waz1892 on November 14, 2012, 20:57:38 PM ---
I bet 3/4 of the pot and was re-raised.
His range now? Should i be aware of 888 or QQQ now?
Do I call or Re-re raise or shove.
--- End quote ---
Well I choose to go over top once more. My thinking was blurred by my aces, and that I covered him and if I lost I"m back to where I started. Brutally honest, set never entered my head until he shoved on me.
--- End quote ---
Nor should they, don"t worry about them unless much deeper. Getting it in on this flop is not at all terrible btw. I just think that calling and playing the turn/river wins a bit more in this spot as you help people play well against you can hero fold the likes of AQ and KQ both of which are a far bigger part of his range than sets.
EDIT: Unaware Rob was the opponent definitely calling down rather than 3-betting based purely on my opponent. Rob can easily correctly fold beaten hands here if you 3-bet him.
WYoung83:
Seems like a cooler. He has raised 3 buttons in a row, you have AA and he flops set. And you also know him to be a good player and most good players play agressive and try to put you into tough spots. Nothing wrong with loosing a chunk here.
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