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Flatting with Medium Strength Hands vs Loose Passives

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VBlue:
This is something that has been discussed in the first month of the online training course I am taking.

When in position and facing an opening raise from a loose-passive player, what types of hands are you looking to flat with as opposed to 3-betting? If the opener is 40% VPIP, does this give an indication as to how much of our range we can flat hoping to dominate his range with; i.e. 20%? So, we may go a little lower in our range and include hands like KJ/AT where versus a 20% VPIP we might only include hands as low as KQ/AJ (this is just an example so don"t take those ranges as exact).

Also, are you concerned where there are limpers and a single raiser and do you then try to force a HU situation or are you comfortable playing the same range versus 2 to the flop?

I have been continuing to 3-bet my medium pocket pairs which are trickier to play post-flop, say 77-TT/JJ, and started to try and find spots to flat hands like AJ/AQ/KQ hoping to dominate and stack them when we both make top-pair type hands.

I want to start to include a new stat on my HUD to showing pre-flop raise-call. I have been using the limp-call stat which I have been able to take advantage of where I can continue to raise for value the above hands knowing they will still call off after open-limping.

A hand to illustrate:

IPoker, $5 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: 1,400 (35 bb)
UTG+1: 3,075 (76.9 bb)
UTG+2: 2,885 (72.1 bb)
MP1: 1,950 (48.8 bb)
MP2: 1,285 (32.1 bb)
MP3: 2,280 (57 bb)
CO: 4,610 (115.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): 3,910 (97.8 bb)
SB: 1,460 (36.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Ad Jd
UTG+1 calls 40, UTG+2 calls 40, 3 folds, CO raises to 220, Hero calls 220, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls 180, UTG+2 folds

Flop: (760) Js 9s 9h (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO bets 570, Hero calls 570, UTG+1 calls 570

Turn: (2,470) Kd (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO bets 320, Hero calls 320, UTG+1 calls 320

River: (3,430) 3h (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO bets 680

UTG+1 is 39/16/0 over 62 hands. CO is 39/11/4 over 83 hands.

I call the CO raise as I don"t think all the limpers will call and I want to keep his range wide in the hope I dominate it. He has got all-in pre-flop with a standard open and then reshoved over a small stack all-in and flat call behind with AK. He then lost a huge pot to treble me up with KQ when he limped behind and then called my raise and called off on a K high board. I figure he is capable of aggression and looking to take down a pot vs limpers here without having to have a monster hand.

UTG+1 one a crazy pot when he should have shoved pre but called off against 3 or 4 all-ins for varying stacks with TT on a 7 high board. He also helped treble me up in the pot already mentioned with a gutshot and middle pair on Kx9T board with JT the nad prior to this one.

What do you think of the way I play up to the river and what is your move on the river?

pokerpops:
What"s our second card??

VBlue:
david - AdJd - it is showing when I view the post.

mporter123:
Gut instinct is 3bet or fold pre. Given reads - I like the 3bet to 515. I would be happy 3bet folding.

As played I am calling the river given the price but don't like it. Probably has same hand as you or QQ/1010 and is trying to get to showdown cheaply.

May contemplate raising the turn (and calling it off) for value but it's a bit thin given we have UTG in the hand as well.

Good hand to post btw.

VBlue:
If we 3-bet pre-flop are we potentially giving him the chance to fold hands we beat and 4-bet hands we are beaten by, enabling him to play "perfectly".  If we call instead, can we not keep in his range such as AT/KJ/QJ/JT which we dominate and small-medium PPs that we don"t want to call off against if he gets tasty and shoves?

If we fold is that too weak given our position in the pot and the chances that he is not only raising with AQ/AK/JJ/QQ/KK/AA?

He could, with hindsight, just be looking for a cheap showdown.  The K turn means some straight draws are now possible and he could have QQ and now be concerned he has fallen behind.

River - I am still leaning slightly towards a fold, as we can"t discount the other player in the pot and I think my equity is less than 20% after running some pokerstove calcs (I"m new to using it though).

I felt QQ was most likely.  

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