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APAT National Online Cup - Enter A Team
suzanne:
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--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on March 04, 2013, 19:57:59 PM ---
IMO it"s either a team game where the prizes are awarded for getting your team safely across the line, or it isn"t.
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+1
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You do whatever it takes to ladder the team up the board.
I too am fine with the play that took place as its a TEAM game and this needs to be recognised by the networks. There are more and more team events popping up so its something that is not going to go away.
The incident Curly mentioned brought the discussion to the fore last season as we were a bit blatant in what we did but imo it was perfect team play. Chip dumping has to be allowed in these games and I have seen it done several times this season...even joked about it in the chat box. Its not wrong... its survival!
Curlarge:
--- Quote from: suzanne on March 04, 2013, 23:29:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Curlarge on March 04, 2013, 20:07:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on March 04, 2013, 19:57:59 PM ---
IMO it"s either a team game where the prizes are awarded for getting your team safely across the line, or it isn"t.
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+1
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+2
You do whatever it takes to ladder the team up the board.
I too am fine with the play that took place as its a TEAM game and this needs to be recognised by the networks. There are more and more team events popping up so its something that is not going to go away.
The incident Curly mentioned brought the discussion to the fore last season as we were a bit blatant in what we did but imo it was perfect team play. Chip dumping has to be allowed in these games and I have seen it done several times this season...even joked about it in the chat box. Its not wrong... its survival!
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Agree 100%.
One thing I don"t understand and hopefully this blows the argument wide open, is that this tournament, if I remember correctly, was password protected.
Therefore by definition, only players allowed to play in the event, only players that signed up for the event and only players that know the rules, (or lack of them in this instance) played in the event. So therefore APAT can allow whatever they want surely, as it is a private event.
Unless you were registered in a team you were ineligible to play.
Also, having been made aware that "blatant" chip dumping took place in the last online cup, by a number, if not all of teams, why weren"t players banned from that event as well? We were playing on the same platform afterall.
I know I am not alone in thinking that this event has been a huge success, and the phrase "getting your team over line" is a very good one. It is fun to play, requires a fair amount of strategic thinking and has created some very strong teams both playing wise and "bonding" wise.
The fact that it is not simply another NLHE event has been the appeal for many and it would be a huge shame if it faded away.
One suggestion is that if Boss don"t like it then lets play it somewhere else. I"m sure if they knew that 150 players were going to play on Genting for 7 weeks for example they attitude would change PDQ. :o :o :o
galo5767:
FWIW
I won Sundays game (blatant brag) probably due to the fact that my team didnt make the last 16, hence I played agg. knowing people didnt want knocked out due to team commitments. i.e The Team element worked in my favor - should I be DQ? of course not, I took advantage of the situation. APAT always listens to the punters - although its wrong what happened its also the norm - also its a tainted victory for whoever wins the cup. give them a WARNING
suzanne:
--- Quote from: Des on March 04, 2013, 18:34:26 PM ---
Unfortunately it doesn"t work like that Gordon. Network rules and licensing laws do apply and there isn"t an operator out there who can work outside of those laws. An element of soft play has always been deemed ok in these games, but blatant chip dumping can"t be accepted in the same light, if only for the protection of the players involved. If players have gotten away with that previously then APAT have not done a good enough job in clarifying our concerns in that area.
Nothing personal with the two players who were picked up for this last night. Just bad timing by the sound of it and we regret that.
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Blatant chip dumping is happening though, we all know it, do it and except it as part of team play. It adds a new dimension to the game.
For example in the hand you posted..it was down to player 5/6 (the one still in play) to shove and stop it happening... he/she didnt have a hand to do so ....perfect play imo.
suzanne:
Did the network pick up on it or was it reported?
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