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APAT Cash Championship
AAroddersAA:
APAT ran it"s newest format of poker at DTD this weekend with the APAT Cash Championship taking centre stage at the club on Saturday night. The new format attracted a wide range of players including the well known Keith Hawkins and a host of DTD regulars.
Although I liked the format I was unsure if it would have a true cash game feel to it and seemed more like a tournament. I was also wondering if the format would encourage to much gambling at the end as everybody tried to get a top 8 stack to reach the final table. However myself and a number of others still took our seats in the game to try and win APAT gold.
At the tables there was a bit of discussion about if the format kind of felt like a tournament or a cash game. As the game was played it was definitely more of a cash game and the table dynamics were that of a cash game as you picked up on what players were going to do what. The top eight stacks going to the final table made for an interesting dynamic as some players were ready to gamble from the get go whilst others were playing tight taking their time in building the stacks. Some players cashed in and left the game and the tables were merged. Overall the feel of the game was pretty unique but it was a cash game more than anything else. One tweak I would like to see that I think Des is going to have a look at is rather than 1 full reload have 4 25% reloads. So if you get stacked you could use them all to buy back up to £100 but if you lost just £25 or £50 in a hand you could top up to allow you to continue to play 100BB deep for as long as possible. This would give it more of a cash game feel I think.
As the game progressed towards the final people did loosen up and get more aggressive which is always good for a game and the players had to adapt to this.
When the final table was made what you had was some really deep stacks and the game effectively did become a deep stacked cash game. So what we seem to have here is almost a shootout that gives you entry to a deep stacked final for an affordable buyin. I ended the game £8 down (if you were at DTD you know what happened if you weren"t I won"t bore you with it *lol*).
I will edit this post after the weekend (I have to go to DTD to play the main event now) to talk about the final table but my feelings were that this APAT Cash Championship is something APAT might want to explore more. I would (and I have no doubt, more importantly, Des and Leigh would) love to here the thoughts of the players who played (Mr Redfern need not post *lol* - only joking Steve, well played) and the players who may play future events of this type. I would certainly play if this format was repeated at another event. What tweaks and changes would encourage the community to want to play this excellent event.
I think this is worthy of a Thread.
SirPercival:
I think the fact that there was, and is, discussion about whether it is a cash game or a tournamnet means that it"s met it"s objective IMO.
I didn"t play, but did watch some of the final table and would definatly consider playing any future similar event.
Well done Des and the APAT team for pushing the boundaries again and taking this game we all love to yet another level.
Yorkshire Pudding:
One way of encouraging action would be to either put a compulsory straddle in play at certain points in the game, or have it as a "win the button" format where if you win a hand you get the button the very next hand regardless of your seat at the table.
s4ooter:
I played it and throughly enjoyed it but would only change one thing.
Players that haven"t taken there £100 reload should be able to do so when the play ends but BEFORE the FT starts.
An example from the event. Chinese Frankie has used his reload and is in for £200 total, he finished on £280ish. Im in for £100 and finish on £237....im not sure how he has performed better than myself in this situation as my profit is higher.
If your all allowed to use your 2nd £100 as an "add-on" after the 1st 3 hrs of play (but before the chipcounts are done) then it allows everyone to be in the same boat, and the true top 8 can be determined.
Maybe im bitter as Ian Gacoignes crazy last hand helped him pip me by £11 to the FT, idk, but just think it has to be level.
Great event tho
AAroddersAA:
I think Dann makes a very good point here. The players who have not rebought should have the option to do so as this may create a deeper final table. I assume the reason for taking the biggest stack through is to create a deeper final table, allowing people to use their reload at the end of the first period would also achieve this objective.
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