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deanp27:
I"m calling.
Prob should sigh fold though but would convince myself the only hand we can ever be losing to is 3s and would SB pile with a set here? Expect to see hearts a lot, possibly KQhh, KJhh. It"s pretty close though, especially with button still to act

Wouldn"t 4x pre either, opening to 500 is plenty

Zozzy:
Great answers, and very helpful to me thanks.
You all confirm what a difficult decision it was to call for effectively your tournament life in the early stages of a tournament with a slow blind structure.
deanp27 you have more or less nailed it, as far as how the hand played out.

utg made the call with top two .
Button got out of the way (later said he had an Ace) as scooter says, defining his hand.

The all in squeeze was holding Nut Flush draw. This was me, I was the aggressor in this hand but wanted to know if my opponent utg was right to make the call. He didn"t seem to consider folding.

What I didn"t make clear in my OP was that my assessment of the Button player was from my personal experience with him. The utg player making the decision may not have had this information which makes his decision more difficult. And makes my play correct imo.
The Button player has shown massive strength by raising to 3100 after a limp.

My personal choice at the time would have been the same as mousebobs to reluctantly fold top two (even if I knew the Button player well).
My reasoning for this is that we all seem to agree that the two most likely hands we are facing are trip threes and Nut Flush draw. One has us crushed and one has  32% - 39% chance (against one opponent) of winning the hand anyway, dependant on the kicker. It would be too early in the tournament for me to take these odds.


I am constantly very critical of my play, and would welcome any comments about my own decisions in this hand now that you know I was the player in the SB. It was my exit hand and so I don"t want to be results orientated in my self assessment.
As much as I would like to say that I had KJ, I in fact had K5 suited hearts.

I am interested to know:
Would it have been correct for me to fold pre-flop ? (my decision to call was influenced by what I knew about the Button player)
Was there a better way to play post flop ?

Should the utg player have folded pre ? If I was the utg player with AQ OFFSUIT I would have folded here, but with it being suited does that make a significant difference ?

deanp27:
Calling 4x with K5s from the small blind is a million times worse than opening AQo from UTG

cincicrappykid:
Can I ask , if you are raising with AQ, hit 2 pair then consider folding after hitting,  why are you raising with it in the first place ?

AMRN:

--- Quote from: deanp27 on April 15, 2013, 06:46:24 AM ---
Calling 4x with K5s from the small blind is a million times worse than opening AQo from UTG

--- End quote ---


^^This!  The rest of the hand remains open for discussion, but to be honest, if you hadn"t make the huge mistake in the first place, the rest of the discussion would be irrelevant.    Sorry to be so blunt - but the call preflop from the SB is pretty dire and just asking for trouble.

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