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APAT UK Team Championship
George2Loose:
I"d be less worried about collusion- more about soft playing.
If you"re in the final 50 and one of your team members moves in for 10 big blinds- u look down at AK- fold? The temptation to soft play is going to be there.
I know when DTD had their first team event they had certain rules when team members played pots together. I think u were on my table Dan when Raj Dhiri was made to call Paul Jackson"s all in with any 2 cards
Paulie_D:
Outright collusion, no.
As for so called "soft play", it must be remembered that this event is unlike any other APAT event, it is a TEAM event so, notwithstanding what Des said, I think that this is an element of a team event.
Granted there is a fine line but given the MTT nature and structure we are using, how else to you have "team play"?
In any case, how would you police it? I"m not going to show the AK I might have folded to a teammates push and to make me call with any 2 cards is unfair to me (and perhaps to others at the table) especially if, through no fault or mine I happen to be sitting at the same table behind him.
If APAT can come up with a method of ensuring that teammates don"t sit at the same table then let"s have at it. A lot of work if they can.
The individual prizes are there, IMO, to make the event worthwhile for those players who may not have a chance at a team prize (for whatever reason) but still have a shot at an individual prize beause they outlasted their teammates.
evilpie:
Surely if it"s a team event you have to help out your fellow team members whenever possible?
As far as I"m concerned as long as players aren"t discussing what they are going to do then there"s no problem. All teams should sort their tactics out before the event starts and then they don"t need to discuss things during hands.
I"d be really shocked if someone"s team mate raised them out of a dry sidepot with nothing instead of checking down to knock someone out.
It"s a TEAM event. You have to play as a team. I for one will do everything I can to help a team mate as long as it doesn"t jeapardise me. What I won"t be doing is discussing things during the tournament. That would be out of order. The team that wins will be the one who have their tactics sorted out before the event starts and can use circumstances to their advantage.
If you are the BB against a short stacked team mate in the SB then I think you"d be wrong to call their push to try to knock them out.
And if you don"t then you"re stupid :)
BTW if I"m told before the event that this is not allowed then I will not do it. As far as I"m aware at the moment though it"s a team event so anything goes.
Oh one more thing. I"m in Faliraki and it"s 45 degrees ;D
kinboshi:
80/1 now Matt.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: evilpie on July 11, 2008, 15:28:26 PM ---
I for one will do everything I can to help a team mate
--- End quote ---
....and I think that is the point of the question. So you would do anything huh? What about if you"re chip leader and can afford a few chips, and you have a short stacked team mate at the table..... would you dump a few chips on him to keep him in the game? That wouldn"t be collusion, but would be soft play,and would be a pretty poor show!
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