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UKCOAP Day 3 - Main Event Day 1 / Hi Roller
jon_garrett:
James Edwards
Martyn Sharp
please.
MarkTheShark:
Lewis Laker, Richard Baker and Paul McGuinness down
Lewis Laker
Laxie:
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--- Quote from: AJDUK on August 25, 2013, 16:16:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: MarkTheShark on August 25, 2013, 14:47:31 PM ---
Question for discussion - views/comments welcome :
Dealer dealing hole cards (as he does!) accidently flips a card - and immediately retracts the card, saying its the first burn.
If the player to whom it was dealt says "thats my card, i want it - i dont care if all the table knows i have it" should he be allowed to keep it and play continue?
Should the player be allowed the option of keeping that card - on the basis it was his but dealer error has caused them not to get it?
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Short answer is no. It can create an unfair advantage. You can"t show cards at any point in the hand and this situation shouldn"t be treated any differently.
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Im not saying youre wrong - i just think this is an interesting case - but how - if the whole table knows what the card is - can it create an "unfair" advantage - bearing in mind the player who is denied the card should also not be advantaged or disadvantaged as much as any other player - and he has done nothing wrong himself.
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No cards should be seen until showdown. He"s not being penalised as such. He"s being "protected". Knowing what one player has (or half of what they have) can be an "unfair" advantage to the others in the hand.
AJDUK:
--- Quote from: MarkTheShark on August 25, 2013, 16:25:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: AJDUK on August 25, 2013, 16:16:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: MarkTheShark on August 25, 2013, 14:47:31 PM ---
Question for discussion - views/comments welcome :
Dealer dealing hole cards (as he does!) accidently flips a card - and immediately retracts the card, saying its the first burn.
If the player to whom it was dealt says "thats my card, i want it - i dont care if all the table knows i have it" should he be allowed to keep it and play continue?
Should the player be allowed the option of keeping that card - on the basis it was his but dealer error has caused them not to get it?
--- End quote ---
Short answer is no. It can create an unfair advantage. You can"t show cards at any point in the hand and this situation shouldn"t be treated any differently.
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Im not saying youre wrong - i just think this is an interesting case - but how - if the whole table knows what the card is - can it create an "unfair" advantage - bearing in mind the player who is denied the card should also not be advantaged or disadvantaged as much as any other player - and he has done nothing wrong himself.
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A number of reasons, but the most obvious being that he would reject all deuces and keep all aces. All kinds of angles could be created on both sides by allowing an option.
MarkTheShark:
hes being penalised by not being given the card he was due to have through no fault of his own - which could be a premium or strong starting hand.
should the player not be given the option?
i do like playing devils advocate! ;D
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