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JM 08/10/13 - Should I fold QQ here ?

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Charlie44:
Only 45 hands on villain but he has stats of 9/9. Is it ok/right to just flat call pre, given UTG+1 raise ? Would typical villain be double barrelling with A high here ? Can I/Should I be folding on the turn ? If so  have I done anything wrong leading up to this point ?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $10.15
BB: $13.76
UTG: $10.84
UTG+1: $10.60
UTG+2: $20.16
MP: $40.89
MP+1: $10.00
CO: $6.71

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Qd Qh
fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop : ($1.05, 3 players) 2c 5s 2d
UTG+1 bets $0.70, fold, Hero calls $0.70

Turn : ($2.45, 2 players) 9c
UTG+1 bets $1.50, ?

AAroddersAA:
45 hands is a small sample but VPIP and PFR become accurate quite quickly so would believe what they are telling me here.

Flatting QQ is OK here at Full Ring (not at 6-Max). The reason it is OK is that if you get 4-bet pre you have to fold. Saying that you might get called by hands like 99-JJ so there is an argument for 3-betting. I would probably 3-bet this myself in position but I think the flat call is fine too.

If he is playing 9% then his EP range is smaller, maybe 4%? This range would include 99+ and also AK. I would not estimate it any tighter without really good info to suggest it is.

Would he c-bet AK here, on the flop he probably would as the flop is great for a c-bet, it is also not that bad to double barrel unless he has good info on you and how you play (which we will assume he does not). I like the call on the flop I think although if he had TT or JJ there is a chance he might decide to pay you off on a raise. I like pot control with QQ against this guy though.

The turn changes nothing really everything is as it was (except 99 made a FH). His bet sizes look normal. I would call again as I think we have him beat more often than not here. We will not have useful c-betting stats yet unless we have notes.

If he bets the river it become more difficult but unless he bombs it really big we probably have to sigh and call again. I don"t love this spot but am inclined to call down if no ace appears OTR.

Fatcatstu:
Is call - call - swear/fold really bad on flop-turn-river here?

AAroddersAA:

--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on October 09, 2013, 11:54:34 AM ---
Is call - call - swear/fold really bad on flop-turn-river here?

--- End quote ---

No, really tough to find a fold OTR here though most of the time. You really only lose to AA or KK (maybe 99 is possible). However if he bets the river he is really saying he has one of those hands.

I think in reality the river goes check/check a lot which is why I like calling the turn.

deanp27:
Well played, keep calling imo

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