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An interesting decision
amcgrath1uk:
So, against virtually any hand we"re approx 36% to win assuming it goes all in.
Is there not even the thought to a call here, as it"s ~30% of my chips?
I don"t tend to take a long time over decisions, especially when I"ve got someone waiting for me to win/get knocked out, but I did take approx 2 mins to decide on what to do with this one.
I"ll reveal what I did tomorrow morning.
KarmaDope:
--- Quote from: amcgrath1uk on March 04, 2014, 17:57:01 PM ---
I"m liking the feedback so far.
What happened next:
I did c-bet the flop to 13k, and after not a lot of thought, he reraises to 38k.
4) Compared to his previous bets, he"s made this one relatively quickly
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Just an addendum (obv I was there and saw the hand).
This was pretty much a snap raise. Asa bet the 13k and as soon as the dealer announced the bet size he was counting the chips out for the raise. No thought in there whatsoever, definitely seemed premeditated.
pokerpops:
--- Quote from: amcgrath1uk on March 04, 2014, 23:26:29 PM ---
So, against virtually any hand we"re approx 36% to win assuming it goes all in.
Is there not even the thought to a call here, as it"s ~30% of my chips?
I don"t tend to take a long time over decisions, especially when I"ve got someone waiting for me to win/get knocked out, but I did take approx 2 mins to decide on what to do with this one.
I"ll reveal what I did tomorrow morning.
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You"re probably not 36% if we include all the Axcc hands in his range.
Bet folding this feels pretty yuck, but feels appropriate.
If we give him a range of 22, 44 a lot of AXcc and maybe AcXx. I"m on my iPad so can"t stove this, but if he has the bigger flush draw we"re potentially dead on the turn.
CW86:
Have only browsed this topic briefly, but main issue for me is our bet sizing.
Open for 8, c-bet 8-9.
Oh and fold to the c-raise for the reasons mentioned above
amcgrath1uk:
My thoughts to points raised so far:
Preflop raise - Are we min raising every hand? I"m more than comfortable min raising, but that *little* extra tends to make people think more.
Continuation bet - I want to win the pot. 8k/9k into approx 22k isn"t going to win that often. 13k imo will do more often. Yes, it does mean that any possible 3 bet will be slightly higher, and make a decision more difficult, but the here and now I want to win the pot. Again, my bet sizing is no different than at any other time.
Perception of opponent - Above all, this is the most important. The opponent has 3 bet us in this situation, but he is he perceiving that because I"ve shown strength, and good hands often, is he taking advantage?
--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on March 03, 2014, 18:48:25 PM ---
How much are you planning to bet for him to be jamming?!!?!
I bet out for about 11k and expect him to fold fairly often. If he is a tight player do we not think he raises here with an A? Perfect flop for us to bet at IMO, as we actually have a bit of it.
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This was my thought process. I believed I could get him to fold with a standard c bet, that did not work. But imo, we have a well disguised hand, we have a tight opponent who hasn"t raised preflop, and imo he was taking advantage of being a tight player.
The result:
After 2 minutes of thinking time, weighing up the relevant chipstacks, and the exact amounts of the relevant chips I had, I very deliberately took back my initial raise, took a 5k off my pile of chips, and put the rest out as a 4 bet, which added up to a min re-reraise of 65k. After 15 seconds or so, he folded. I don"t think my opponent realised it was a min reraise, but I know it signified strength, rather than just an all in shove.
Thoughts?
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