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dwh103:
Overall an excellent festival. The choice was excellent, the structures good for the most part. Some tinkering required of course, especially the Heads Up and the later levels of the Ante Only/Stud games (and the early part of the HORSE). Part of the learning process.

Aspers - brilliant location, better than DTD in my opinion as a venue for this. Whilst DTD is an awesome place, I think the available local player pool at Aspers gave the whole festival a boost. 160 runners for a Tuesday 2pm comp is amazing.

The downside:

A general lack of what I can only describe as "precision and visibility", both before and during the event. Going back a few months, more notice would"ve been ideal. I"m still not sure the reservation process works - the sheer numbers of locals able to register may have papered over the issues experienced at the Masters/DTD. Not knowing the inner details of % of reservations being taken up though.

There needs to be greater clarity imo - having all the information tucked away on various parts of the forum just doesn"t make sense to me. Interested parties would visit the website first, so a dedicated landing page for the WCOAP with a clear Schedule, How to Register (with a clear timeline and explanation of the registration options - i.e. holding tanks are closed 2 weeks prior to the event). The link to the forum post from apat.com announcing the festival never had reservation, buy-in or satty details added to the first page. Last minute structure changes, no confirmation of numbers until the night before the first tournament - it did have a slightly disorganised feeling.

The excellent choice did impact the updates, there"s only so much one or two updaters can do.

For all of the above, it"s not that I think it was particularly bad, just that it could be better. Overall - ambitious, and exceeded my expectations. Well done all.

ian.ski309:

--- Quote from: AMRN on April 22, 2014, 16:12:48 PM --- The Live Update thread just isn"t what it was from the Tighty days. Those back at home used to love to follow proceedings - that doesn"t happen any more. In my opinion, the APAT update thread was always so much better than some others, ie Pokerstars, and it was an excellent differentiator.
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This   ^^^^^^

Another minor niggle is the propensity to continuously edit and re-edit long posts such as the Player Briefing. I appreciate that this is done in the interests of accuracy, but having already read it, there is no indication which area/section has been edited. Might be worth adding a timed and dated addendum at the foot of OP (per edit), referencing which section has been altered.

Slim Chance:
Excellent Championships. Great range of events. Great venue.
I think that the Fixed Limit games need to start earlier in the day to stop them going on so late.
Also I think Stud HiLo would get a much better turn-out than Razz.

fandango:
Have to say enjoyed the WCOAP immensely  enjoyable as always..

A couple of frustrations I encountered over the few days, where not the fault of APAT but I guess has to be down to Aspers, the price of drinks at the bar but this has already been mentioned and I guess the hard core drinker will budget for this in the future.. Also the lack of dealers available over what is obv going to be a very busy festival.. I know the TD was struggling for dealers as I saw his plea on FB asking for them on the lead up. But as Steve mentioned if you do get knocked out early doors and want to play another tournament/cash game/ SNG there was no chance as there was simply not enough dealers to cover, there was plenty of empty tables that could of been put to good use..

Superb casino with great facilities overall, but still have a soft spot with DTD and will always be my number 1 choice, I guess for me it"s like what the crucible is to snooker.

Regarding  games and structures I thought overall it was all pretty spot on, only gripe was PLO8 and PLO where both in conjunction with ME days.. I know most Omaha fans would love to play these both over the festival, but if you want to play ME you have to give one up??  Surely it would be better to perhaps hold one of the other events like Razz or Stud on one of the ME days?

Echo everything what has been said about updates, but realise it can be a thankless task sometimes and i know with what APAT had available over the week the guys did in fact do a great job and huge thanks from me go to Mark, Matt, Tom and Des for the service they provided, I know from speaking to Mayliss over the weekend she has more time off now esp at weekends, how awesome would that be if Des could work his Irish charm and get her to do a couple of events  :). Also I know some of the regs would be happy to help out with collecting data for bloggers with chip counts etc or getting hand info from players.. Get irritating man taking the pics?  :)

Looking forward to seeing what season8 has to offer..

Paulie_D:

--- Quote from: fandango on April 29, 2014, 13:48:16 PM ---

Regarding  games and structures I thought overall it was all pretty spot on, only gripe was PLO8 and PLO where both in conjunction with ME days.. I know most Omaha fans would love to play these both over the festival, but if you want to play ME you have to give one up??  Surely it would be better to perhaps hold one of the other events like Razz or Stud on one of the ME days?

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I have to disagree with Carl to a certain extent here.

From a personal standpoint I was more than happy to not play the main event to play both PLO & PLO8 especially this was the first (AFAIK) official APAT PLO8 event. I"d been asking for a PLO8 event for some time and was very happy to see it included in the WCOAP.

Missing the ME was not a concern for me.

I was slightly disappointed that Aspers had a policy of no self-deal though. I can understand the reasoning (mostly) but many other casinos APAT have visited have allowed this albeit with some negotiation as to table/card "rental" and chip stacks.

If APAT members had wanted to do a £20 + £2 self-deal SNG, that can only represent a profit to Aspers, but it wasn"t an option. Perhaps there were legal issues but, AFAIK, we were just denied.

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