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Big $11 Jam
KarmaDope:
--- Quote from: LombBomb on April 30, 2014, 12:15:40 PM ---
Is there ever any argument for just flatting the 3bet? Doesn"t look like we"re getting great value to set mine but the implied odds are worth considering.
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I dont think we can flat the 3 bet here oop as it is basically 25% of our stack. Fold>Shove>Call imo.
LombBomb:
--- Quote from: sharplea on April 30, 2014, 13:49:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: LombBomb on April 30, 2014, 12:15:40 PM ---
Is there ever any argument for just flatting the 3bet? Doesn"t look like we"re getting great value to set mine but the implied odds are worth considering.
--- End quote ---
I dont think we can flat the 3 bet here oop as it is basically 25% of our stack. Fold>Shove>Call imo.
--- End quote ---
Yeah but we"ve already opened for 10% of our stack. I"m more inclined to peel after a cold call to the 3 bet. If we flat and miss the flop we can fold and have 15BBs left which is a perfect reshoving stack.
KarmaDope:
--- Quote from: LombBomb on April 30, 2014, 14:33:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: sharplea on April 30, 2014, 13:49:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: LombBomb on April 30, 2014, 12:15:40 PM ---
Is there ever any argument for just flatting the 3bet? Doesn"t look like we"re getting great value to set mine but the implied odds are worth considering.
--- End quote ---
I dont think we can flat the 3 bet here oop as it is basically 25% of our stack. Fold>Shove>Call imo.
--- End quote ---
Yeah but we"ve already opened for 10% of our stack. I"m more inclined to peel after a cold call to the 3 bet. If we flat and miss the flop we can fold and have 15BBs left which is a perfect reshoving stack.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, but what do we do is the flop is 7 high, or 6-7-9 for example? Our hand is strong and we are OOP. We then are in a position where we conceivably have to get it all in based on hand strength against some top ranges, only to find that probably we dont have as much equity as we thought. Fold and move on.
LombBomb:
--- Quote from: sharplea on April 30, 2014, 14:54:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: LombBomb on April 30, 2014, 14:33:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: sharplea on April 30, 2014, 13:49:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: LombBomb on April 30, 2014, 12:15:40 PM ---
Is there ever any argument for just flatting the 3bet? Doesn"t look like we"re getting great value to set mine but the implied odds are worth considering.
--- End quote ---
I dont think we can flat the 3 bet here oop as it is basically 25% of our stack. Fold>Shove>Call imo.
--- End quote ---
Yeah but we"ve already opened for 10% of our stack. I"m more inclined to peel after a cold call to the 3 bet. If we flat and miss the flop we can fold and have 15BBs left which is a perfect reshoving stack.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, but what do we do is the flop is 7 high, or 6-7-9 for example? Our hand is strong and we are OOP. We then are in a position where we conceivably have to get it all in based on hand strength against some top ranges, only to find that probably we dont have as much equity as we thought. Fold and move on.
--- End quote ---
I"d happily fold to a c-bet on a 7 high flop as I try to avoid marginal spots where possible. I"m comfortable folding any flop that doesn"t have an 8 on it.
deanp27:
If you want to avoid marginal spots in general then I don"t think opening 88 for a min off a c20bb stack is a good idea.
It looks like a fold with the cold caller but there so many fruitcakes in the big 11 you could be in good shape getting it in
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