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Success going to your head???
Bodddders:
--- Quote from: Jon MW on August 23, 2007, 13:02:15 PM ---
Getting back (vaguely at least) to the original post - do people get the impression that they get more bad luck after a big result?
Or is any slump after a big cash or win just down to the other reasons already mentioned - over confidence, for example.
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You"ll have to help me here. Whats a big result? ;D
I"ll let you know after the weekend (lol)
MJS:
Apologies for the bad beat story, I was just trying to make a point.
Since my original post, and much analysis I think I"ve found something else which is having an effect. I think that as you find your skills, and results, improving you tend to open up your range of starting hands to try and make the most of your new skills. I guess there may be a certain amount of arrogance in the thinking you can outplay people after the flop more often. This leads inevitably to getting yourself into more trouble and cashing less.
Back to basics I think.
Thanks for people"s help on this. See you all in Luton.
hi_am_chris:
Totally agree with the last post, success breeds confidence but maybe too much success too soon breeds over confidence and arrogance. I think as your learning the game its a phase you need to go through as it will help you look at your game and analyse it and see that your now starting to play too loose and tone your game down a bit. The flip side of the coin is that when you start to go through a losing streak you maybe starting calling when before you would have raised with bigger hands and folding when you could be calling (possibly with a small pair pre flop) which leads you to play too tight and then obviously you dont pick up chips easy enough at the start of tournaments, get bullied off pots and leave tournaments without really ever doing anything
KingPoker:
--- Quote from: MJS on August 23, 2007, 19:22:43 PM ---
Apologies for the bad beat story, I was just trying to make a point.
Since my original post, and much analysis I think I"ve found something else which is having an effect. I think that as you find your skills, and results, improving you tend to open up your range of starting hands to try and make the most of your new skills. I guess there may be a certain amount of arrogance in the thinking you can outplay people after the flop more often. This leads inevitably to getting yourself into more trouble and cashing less.
Back to basics I think.
Thanks for people"s help on this. See you all in Luton.
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mate, i certainly didnt think of this as a bad beat thread at all.
And yes i certainly come to the problem of opening up range of hands after winning a big pot, i didnt truly realise this til my mate was railing me on a final table while speaking to me on msn and obviously playing the game but telling him my hole cards pre flop and it wasnt until he literally said look at the hand your playing now thati realised id loosened up so much after winning a nice sized pot i was paying a lot of hands like 5 7 and 6 8 soooooted.
Now when im in a tourney and i win a decent pot my mind always goes back to that thought of realising i was playing junk and that keeps me tighter (ish).
GL in Luton and see you there
KP
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: Bodddders on August 23, 2007, 14:14:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jon MW on August 23, 2007, 13:02:15 PM ---
Getting back (vaguely at least) to the original post - do people get the impression that they get more bad luck after a big result?
Or is any slump after a big cash or win just down to the other reasons already mentioned - over confidence, for example.
--- End quote ---
You"ll have to help me here. Whats a big result? ;D
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Funnily enough I was thinking about what a "big" result meant for me and it is more to do with its significance then it"s size or prestige. So significant result would probably be a clearer way of describing it.
Not only will what different people find significant be different, but what you find significant yourself will change over time. For example, the first significant result I had was my first online MTT win (a $3 rebuy) - but I wouldn"t find that significant now. Whereas because I"ve only played about 10 live MTTs and I haven"t won one yet - any final table in one would still be significant to me.
And it is those big (for you) results that can shake up your game a bit, but I also think that luck is out to get me after each of them as well :)
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