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How would you play this? (online tourney hand - bubble has burst)

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Jon MW:
If the table had been playing that tight, might a minimum raise have been possible to find out if anybody had a hand worth playing?

If they are playing a good tight aggressive game you may have even got a reraise preflop which would have been a good sign to fold.

It may have ended up the same, but on a very tight table towards the end of a tournament it can weed out anybody without good hands - if they weren"t playing that tight then I"d go with the fold preflop.

hi_am_chris:
Maybe not a min raise i dont think you need to make it 3x to go. Agree with Amrn that raising AJo utg is questionable, espec when your probably going to have to play the hand out of position against hands that probably flop better

MartinOwlMan:
I would like to think I would fold preflop but having read your analysis of how the table was playing I might have been tempted to raise pre and c-bet the flop.

From the turn onward, I can"t see the opponent calling a bet without the ace of hearts. My approach would have been to check-call. By checking I am giving a worse hand an opportunity to bluff, while if he has the ace of hearts then ok its just bad luck.

I don"t think the opponent has a set because nearly always the pot is getting raised on that flop if someone flops a set.

AMRN:
your problem here is that everything you did AFTER the initial raise was perfectly normal, and in the scheme of things probably perfectly correct. You are out of position, and if you check the flop and someone bets, you can"t just flat call their bet, and you don"t really want to be check raising with air at this stage, so you have to fold...... therefore the c-bet was absolutely the right thing to do and follow through on your pf aggression.  Your next problem comes on the turn when you end up drawing for the 2nd nuts - now you are committed to the hand......

This is the reason why I would not have played AJo UTG at all preflop..... you have enough of a stack to find a better spot than this. As Duke says, risks have to be taken, but I would much prefer to take my risk with something like 45s IN position, as opposed to AJo OUT of position. 

When you play AJo UTG, you can easily fold it to any PF re-raise.... but if you get a flat caller, you are probably dominated by a bigger Ace, or behind to a pair, perhaps even dominated by a big pair. However, you have to make your c-bet to find out, and it now starts to get expensive. And if you hit the flop sideways as you did, you"ve effectively trapped yourself.

Departed:

--- Quote from: AMRN on July 14, 2008, 14:19:06 PM ---
This is the reason why I would not have played AJo UTG at all preflop..... you have enough of a stack to find a better spot than this. As Duke says, risks have to be taken, but I would much prefer to take my risk with something like 45s IN position, as opposed to AJo OUT of position. 

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Yeah I would go along with that. Although I felt that due to the tightness of the table, it seemed like a good idea at the time to raise it up and try take down the big blinds + antes, my stack at the time did not warrant such a risk. I could definitely have waited for a better spot.

I think I was partially frustrated with how tight the table had become (slightly surprising to me as the bubble had burst a while ago), which probably clouded my judgement some what, as I would certainly not play hands like AJ UTG in usual circumastances.

Anyway, in a way I"m pleased this hand came up, as it"s one I can learn from.

Thanks all for the comments.

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