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How would you play this? (online tourney hand - bubble has burst)
Hooligooner:
You say the chap is passive, was he playing a pair of kings for trips with the board pairing on the river?
Also with him being passive in mind, what do people think of not continuation betting/semi bluffing the flop to have 5k more fold equity once your flush had hit? Not sure If I could do this but it"s just a question.
Departed:
Yeah sorry...he had AKo with A being a heart.
I think I am happy with betting the turn as I am not folding the 2nd nuts with my stack to pot ratio.
However, I probably could have avoided the whole mess by perhaps by folding pre, as AMRN suggested, or not firing out a c-bet on the flop.
My reason for raising pre was that the table was playing phenomenally tight - the bubble had burst about 30mins previously and not 1 person had since got knocked out. A raise was usually taking down the pot, and if not a c-bet tended to do the trick. I hadn"t played a hand in ages, and maybe there was a slight "boredom factor" in making the raise, when perhaps I should have just passed it.
Having made the preflop raise, what are your views on the c-bet? In hindsight, I think this is my major error. I think he is folding a lot of hands to it, but I suspect it was not the right move by me due to my stack. By c-betting I had put in nearly half my stack so I was no longer able to get away from the hand. Then there would have been the option to check fold, although admittedly if he had checked behind I would certainly have stacked off on the turn.
As writing this, just read Hooligooner"s response...when the flush hits I would say that I don"t want him to fold, as I only lose to Ah which as most of time I don"t think he has this (although in this instance it turns out he does).
Roscopiko:
The only part of the hand you can really question is playing AJ from first position to a full table.
As you say the table was tight then this seems ok (maybe a bit risky) to have a pop. Don"t mind the continuation bet and its size and again most hands he either folds or can only flat call so a decent defensive bet here too. If he comes over the top you can drop it too. Like you say the majority of times you get through either pre flop or with the c-bet on the flop.
If you had missed the turn, you can probably get away from this without a live to fight another day with 10BB but once the flush comes on the turn its game over and u can"t reasonably do anything but stack off to his Ah, just unlucky.
Departed:
--- Quote from: johns41 on July 14, 2008, 10:05:02 AM ---
The only part of the hand you can really question is playing AJ from first position to a full table.
As you say the table was tight then this seems ok (maybe a bit risky) to have a pop. Don"t mind the continuation bet and its size and again most hands he either folds or can only flat call so a decent defensive bet here too. If he comes over the top you can drop it too. Like you say the majority of times you get through either pre flop or with the c-bet on the flop.
If you had missed the turn, you can probably get away from this without a live to fight another day with 10BB but once the flush comes on the turn its game over and u can"t reasonably do anything but stack off to his Ah, just unlucky.
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Yeah - makes sense. Thanks for the feedback.
It"s one of those occasions that I get deep in a tournament, and then end up losing all my chips in one hand, where I should probably have not got involved in first place. It"s happened a few times now, so I"m really trying to analyse these kind of hands to help in avoiding it.
In these tournaments the payouts are weighted so much for top few places, it"s hard to judge what level of risk that I should be taking in order to try and elevate myself up the leaderboard.
duke3016:
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 14, 2008, 08:26:20 AM ---
I suspect the other guy had a bigger flush. Not sure I would have open raised UTG on a full table with such a decent stack holding just AJo - a little unnecessary perhaps, and for me an insta-pass.
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8th in chips (close to 20BB), full table, AJo UTG -- fold.
Risks have to be taken in order to win these things however I think you could have waited for a better spot to take that risk as you still had a healthyish stack.
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