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Memory - Can it be fixed?

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Santino67:

--- Quote from: Cyntaf on July 31, 2008, 18:35:45 PM ---
Sounds to me as though your tormenting yourself. Too much self indulged pressure.
As Kind of mentioned above maybe concentrate on little and often. For input, Use whatever method you like to use, as stated repetition(make sure it"s in your head/not out loud) :P Try to relax and let the information flow afterwards, Your recall will improve with time. Especially if your enjoying your new found knowledge and  not beating yourself up trying too hard to remember.

I"m sure you"ve been asked say an actors name, it won"t come to you for love nor money. Later on in a relaxed state(mentally) and doing or concentrating on a new subject, Then POW!!
Like a bolt of lightning, the actor along with his/her real name appears in your otherwise busy head.

So to recap, concentrate on input, repeat and then forget. Later when info is needed, just relax, take your time and you will recall just what you need.

Hope this helps a little towards your goal for a better re-call :)

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Paul......you could"ve just said Guinness  :D

Adrian747:
Hi - I think it"s a great question, "Memory - Can it be fixed?" when relating to poker. As a 747 Captain I had to remember a whole load of information - some long term, and some like the names of the other 17 crew members who I"d never met before at the start of each flight. Like most I thought I had a poor memory - but it was really quite easy to learn how to remember anything - short or long term.

A quick search on Amazon for "Books - memory" will show you dozens of titles, but I recommend a DVD course called "Quantum Memory Power" by seven times World Memory Champion D. O"Brien. Have a look at http://www.nightingaleconant.co.uk/prod_detail.aspx?product=Quantum_Memory_Power&dloc=2.

Listen to the audio sample "Mental exercise" & read the testamonials at the botom of the page. You may well be able to get this course a lot cheaper than here at Nightingale Conant, but it really can be a life changing purchase and well woth it even for £79.95.

Cyntaf:
Yep Damien O"brien, also books by Harry Lorraine, simple peg systems etc. All good stuff, if given the chance to expand.

Not tried the audio Adrian, i"ll have a listen to that myself.. Thanks...

Hey Santino, it was because of the Guinness that the post was so long and......Mixed up a bit??? ;D

noble1:
wowser you have picked a complicated topic , but here are my thoughts on it..

Poker memory , is it required , a conscious memory i would say is not a necessity as a lot of good players i know are either maths based , feel players or as you descibe a memory player [conscious recall].
Doyle Brunsen touches on the subject in super system but he describes his recall as a gut feeling which is intuition,he has seen that many hands his subconscious will suddenly give him that feel,that instinct as what to do next in any given hand.
I think most players experience this at some point in there poker games, you know that sudden feeling that player A is bluffing and that little voice says reraise the sucker.Or you get a vague feeling you are beat , all little things like that.
But what is it that gives you this feel, it is implicit learning.We all have it, it is how we learned to speak , our subconscious learned word order and the meaning of words, i assume you have the power of language so therfore you have the power to implicit learn.
So all you need to do his really concentrate in your poker games and allow your subconscious to take it all in and over time [some learn quicker than others as in learning to talk] you will get that intuition but theres no easy road you have to make an effort to learn by playing games [be focused]and not getting distracted and it also helps going over your poker sessions with a replayer.
Eventually you start to listen to that little voice and learn to trust it.
So practise , pay attention , learn the game of poker and all its complexity and slowly allow your intuitive knowledge base to grow.Eventually that little voice will whisper little nuggets of information to you and your game will improve..

Arthur Reber is a professor of psychology and a avid poker fan you can find books on the subject by him on cognitive psychology if you are intrested in the subject and there are scientific articles on the subject by him on the net.

Hope this helps you in some way,just dont fret about your memory [conscious] we are all different and with work you can improve at poker...

TopPair2Pair:
Thanks Noble, I will have a read, found something already online which is quite interesting.

I have decieded to forget about memory (ha no pun intended) and concentrate on poker math for a while, its a much more tangible subject when it comes to self development.

I think I"ll tackle NLP with memory in the distant future when I have a lot more time on my hands!

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