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Memory - Can it be fixed?

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AMRN:
surely it"s more about remembering patterns, nuances, ranges, etc, rather than recalling specific cards? Obviously the big showdown hands are going to stick in memory, but they are few and far between...... I think it"s much more about remembering all the stuff that goes on above and around the table during hands, rather than the specific cards themselves.....

TopPair2Pair:
Well like I mentioned in the start I posted this in a few forums too get as much advice as possible. (I think memory is definately an underated aspect of hold"em and you cant really find much "self help" reading material on this subject).

One guy who had a similar problem when he started out mentioned narrating every players actions in his head which helped him. This makes a lot of sense to me, I used to struggle to remember my hole cards and the first thing I do now is look at em, say the hand to myself twice and I never need to look at my cards again unless i"m going hollywood.

I am def going to try the narrating and see if I can get some memory books on visualisation to assist, and see how that develops. (Do any of you guys do this? does it really help?)


--- Quote from: AMRN on July 31, 2008, 14:52:36 PM ---
surely it"s more about remembering patterns, nuances, ranges, etc, rather than recalling specific cards?

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Yep your bang on AMRN. When I said specific details, I meant like a Tight RRaiser looking at the door just after making a tournment exiting bluff. I am okay at remember cards when they placed on their backs, hole card nicknames have helped me here, its much easier to rmember "that mupped called my rr with AJAX overcards" then just AJo.

The bit that I am really struggling with is, like you say, the betting patterns/actions/individual ranges on all the streets, looking back at this info in my head and trying walk through the hand from start to finish with the extra info you have at the end of the hand. ~I want to be able to do this fluently without getting distracted by the on going play.

Cyntaf:
Sounds to me as though your tormenting yourself. Too much self indulged pressure.
As Kind of mentioned above maybe concentrate on little and often. For input, Use whatever method you like to use, as stated repetition(make sure it"s in your head/not out loud) :P Try to relax and let the information flow afterwards, Your recall will improve with time. Especially if your enjoying your new found knowledge and  not beating yourself up trying too hard to remember.

I"m sure you"ve been asked say an actors name, it won"t come to you for love nor money. Later on in a relaxed state(mentally) and doing or concentrating on a new subject, Then POW!!
Like a bolt of lightning, the actor along with his/her real name appears in your otherwise busy head.

So to recap, concentrate on input, repeat and then forget. Later when info is needed, just relax, take your time and you will recall just what you need.

Hope this helps a little towards your goal for a better re-call :)

duke3016:

--- Quote from: Kinboshi on July 31, 2008, 13:00:33 PM ---
Here"s an extreme example.  You"re out on the lash, and have a few too many.  The next day you can"t quite remember everything.  Is it a memory problem, usually not.  It"s probably due to the fact that you weren"t able to process what you were seeing or hearing at the time.  Garbage in, garbage out.

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So that"s the problem -- thanks Dan  ::)

kinboshi:

--- Quote from: duke3016 on July 31, 2008, 19:05:27 PM ---

--- Quote from: Kinboshi on July 31, 2008, 13:00:33 PM ---
Here"s an extreme example.  You"re out on the lash, and have a few too many.  The next day you can"t quite remember everything.  Is it a memory problem, usually not.  It"s probably due to the fact that you weren"t able to process what you were seeing or hearing at the time.  Garbage in, garbage out.

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So that"s the problem -- thanks Dan  ::)

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