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APAT Cardiff - Day 2.
Hammerite:
--- Quote from: Fluence on September 19, 2016, 18:26:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hammerite on September 19, 2016, 12:53:40 PM ---
not happy about it because I played some marginal hands that I never would have played if I was just trying to get to the stage where i could do a deal...
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We each play to our own way, but for me I don"t play a comp costing £82 or in my case £157 to try and min cash for £200 I was playing for the win the whole way both before and after the deal. So you playing marginal hands is the right way in my view.
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This is the point, you were playing for the win as was I, however there were people playing to get to the stage where they could do a deal (as clearly someone asked for a deal at some point), and that was at the forefront of their thinking not winning, that would be an added bonus to them. I like you invested £157 in this event so we both stood to win or lose the same, had I known at the start of the tournament that deals would be allowed then I would have no complaints. I read the player briefing and it"s says no deals, it is black & white to me.
pokerpops:
--- Quote from: Hammerite on September 19, 2016, 19:04:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Fluence on September 19, 2016, 18:26:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hammerite on September 19, 2016, 12:53:40 PM ---
not happy about it because I played some marginal hands that I never would have played if I was just trying to get to the stage where i could do a deal...
--- End quote ---
We each play to our own way, but for me I don"t play a comp costing £82 or in my case £157 to try and min cash for £200 I was playing for the win the whole way both before and after the deal. So you playing marginal hands is the right way in my view.
--- End quote ---
This is the point, you were playing for the win as was I, however there were people playing to get to the stage where they could do a deal (as clearly someone asked for a deal at some point), and that was at the forefront of their thinking not winning, that would be an added bonus to them. I like you invested £157 in this event so we both stood to win or lose the same, had I known at the start of the tournament that deals would be allowed then I would have no complaints. I read the player briefing and it"s says no deals, it is black & white to me.
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I doubt anybody played with a view to winning £200. But I"m fairly sure that if I were one of the last five I"d change my views on the payouts.
With a substantial gap between the "place money" and the first prize I think each of the five would still be "playing for the win".
I don"t like deals generally, bubble payments in normal tournaments are anathema to me, but this is a different situation and dynamic.
I think in this case rejecting the deal would be an error.
pokerpops:
By the way, I am obviously biased here, but the updates this weekend were as good as I can remember them.
Well played Lucy, Matt and Tom.
Matt D:
--- Quote from: pokerpops on September 19, 2016, 19:23:13 PM ---
By the way, I am obviously biased here, but the updates this weekend were as good as I can remember them.
Well played Lucy.
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+1 to this. I think she did an exceptionally good job. Also thanks to Jack Hipkiss for taking photos on day 1b.
IrishTom:
Hi Don, my apologies as on reading back we weren"t very clear on this in the player briefing:
QUOTE
Each event prize pool breakdown will be confirmed at the venue after the event has closed for further entries. An example of the default APAT prize structure can be found HERE. APAT do NOT facilitate deals for Championship Main Events nor where Vegas 2017 Packages are on offer.
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This was meant to be clear that there was no room for deals regarding any "Vegas package", but any cash element would be open for discussion between the players as APAT have allowed for a while now.
Obviously it is not written clearly and for that I apologise and will make sure it is cleared up for future events.
Tom
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