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Jon MW:
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 12, 2008, 01:11:55 AM ---
wow thats a lot of notes , do you get time to write all this down before the next hand is played ??
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Touch typing helps but mainly I"m making notes on hands that go to showdown as I think that offers more of a useful insight (players overbetting in general is a notable exception to this) and there are hands which I just don"t think seem interesting.
It does mean I tend to have to open the edit screen to read notes rather than the tool tips but this isn"t really a problem.
It is an idea to make the generalisation and include a reference to how much information it"s based on (it would save on typing), I might try flipping it round and seeing if this helps as much.
I like some of your points, particularly the positional observations.
Good post.
noble1:
ok here is a tricky ish situation with a medium pair. In a low stakes sng.
you are in the small blind with 99 you have a stack of 1332 and the blinds are 15/30 there is just 1 limper from the cut off position - although early in the sng he has shown he is loose,passive pre but agg post flop, limps pictures and calls raises with them.He has a stack of 955 left.The big blind yet to act is a bad tag player with a stack of 4188 who plays strong draws very agg with no thought to his opponents possible holdings.
So how would you proceed out of position with 99 ??
TopPair2Pair:
--- Quote from: Jon MW on October 11, 2008, 12:51:03 PM ---
Yes, you"re right - all this time I"ve been playing slightly too cautiously as I"ve been using the fraction [call]/[existing pot] - rather than the ratio [existing pot]:[Call]
The name pot odds should really have given me the clue :)
This is good because it means I"ll be able to loosen my game up a bit :)
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My favourite statement within this thread!!!
Good on the pair of ya for keeping the discussion going in a contructrive manner whilst at the same time sticking to your cannon balls. (Although there was a lot of heated flirting going on!!)
This is why I like this forum soo much had this discussion been anywhere else we all know how it would"ve turned out. Long live APAT.
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: noble1 on October 12, 2008, 12:41:34 PM ---
ok here is a tricky ish situation with a medium pair. In a low stakes sng.
you are in the small blind with 99 you have a stack of 1332 and the blinds are 15/30 there is just 1 limper from the cut off position - although early in the sng he has shown he is loose,passive pre but agg post flop, limps pictures and calls raises with them.He has a stack of 955 left.The big blind yet to act is a bad tag player with a stack of 4188 who plays strong draws very agg with no thought to his opponents possible holdings.
So how would you proceed out of position with 99 ??
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At this stage I wouldn"t want to risk an unnecessarily large amount of chips.
If you raise and you get called by either player still in then you will almost certainly face a flop where you won"t know whether you"re ahead against players who will almost certainly be betting into it. The chances are that you won"t win this hand by flopping big and you won"t win it by bluffing them off their hands.
So I"d limp.
If the flop contains overcards then I"d be ready to checkfold.
If the flop contains all undercards, I"d bet out - but I"d still be ready to fold if either of these two players made oversized reraises. I"d be likely to be ahead, and they shouldn"t be betting so big - but early on I"m happy to fold a winning hand rather than risk losing most of my chips because they got lucky.
If you catch the set, I"d hope that the board gives something for the other two to bet into. If only one of them is interested (e.g. if there are no obvious straight or flush draws) I"d try to check call on every street - possibly I"d have to start betting on the turn and the river if I thought my opponent was going to get suspicious of a check call. If there is a draw on there I"d hope to check raise (possibly all in if they bet enough to warrant it) - with the extra redraws available to me for making a full house then I"d be willing to risk losing the lot against them getting lucky.
Summary: I"d set mine and be ready to fold light because I don"t want to risk losing a big pot at this stage unless I"ve got at least a set.
noble1:
thx for reply jon,
please check your history files, look for Tournament #113577134 , and we"ll go over your reasoning in that 1........
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