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Whats your line here?
Chipaccrual:
Shhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooovvve.
But I"m tight as, so what do I know. ;D
Roscopiko:
Wow, all shoving here, i feel much better now.
I shoved to isolate the villain and reasoned that a reasonable reraise would commit me to the pot anyway.
He took an age to decide and called for his tournament with AQ. After a scary 234 rainbow flop, of course the A came on the turn and I was out.
Reason I posted it was that since then I think I"ve maybe misplayed it and could have either raise/fold to a shove and play with 10bb or if he calls shove on any non A board and he probably folds in this case.
Did I really need to risk a reasonable stack in this spot with JJ out of position?
Jon MW:
If the big blind had squeezed a few times I would have considered a stop and go.
(a) if you flat call and the BB squeezes you can reraise all in (I probably would have called if the AQ had shoved before you)
(b) if the big blind doesn"t squeeze then I"d shove on the flop as long as there were at most one overcard on there (it probably should be a shove whatever the flop is, but that"s my idea of caution).
I think the stop and go is underused - most people seem to opt for the all in preflop instead.
TopPair2Pair:
--- Quote from: Jon MW on October 06, 2008, 14:06:01 PM ---
If the big blind had squeezed a few times I would have considered a stop and go.
(a) if you flat call and the BB squeezes you can reraise all in (I probably would have called if the AQ had shoved before you)
(b) if the big blind doesn"t squeeze then I"d shove on the flop as long as there were at most one overcard on there (it probably should be a shove whatever the flop is, but that"s my idea of caution).
I think the stop and go is underused - most people seem to opt for the all in preflop instead.
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Agreed, and I personally love the "stop and go" in the SB as your first to act post flop. Some will disagree but I ration this play to make it more effective especially at this stage in a tournemnt.
Also if the BB tries a squeeze you"ll be last to act preflop which adds value to this particlur scenario.
Are you still calling if the BB shoves and open raiser calls?
--- Quote ---I think the stop and go is underused
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I think your right regarding the general use of it but those that do utilise it can be known to overuse it. I would only consider it approx 5-10% of the time looking for spots like these to make it most effective.
kinboshi:
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