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Mikeyboy9361:
Okay here goes, I don"t usually get involved in these analysis situations, but I will give this a go.
You have already stated that he is a tricky player, but solid and you have illustrated the hands that you have put him on and that the limp was suspicious.
Therefore you had to think that the Ace may have improved his hand, and as such the minimum bet was possibly a trap, so you had to raise in an effort to find out where you were, his call tells you he has something. The turn obviously doesn"t help his hand, but fills your gut shot, happy days. Pokercinni doesn"t put you on an Ace, as he feels you would have raised pre flop, and he still thinks he is ahead, and he is still trapping. You are no longer scared of a possible ace, and are pretty sure you are winning this hand, so your pot sized bet of 2000 is fairly standard, as you feel if he has a big Ace he is going to call. The King on the river doesn"t change anything for you, the possible flush has missed and even though it may have improved his hand, you are now sure you have the nuts. I think his check on the end is now not to get you to bet, I think he is scared of the straight, as you have indicated strength, and is hoping to get out of the pot with a win and something back if he loses. Your bet putting him all in is again a straight forward move for you. And with trips he is pot committed and has to call.

noble1:
thanks Mikeyboy9361
--- Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on October 21, 2008, 12:37:02 PM ---

Therefore you had to think that the Ace may have improved his hand, and as such the minimum bet was possibly a trap, so you had to raise in an effort to find out where you were, his call tells you he has something. The turn obviously doesn"t help his hand, but fills your gut shot

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your anaylisis is pretty much ther mikey, yes it was a flyer at a trap that i sometimes make in position but i try to do it with a read,the reason i did it was stack to blinds i was about 26bb , not great but still with some play.Pokercinni only had around 10bb left and tried to slow play [KK] it to gain chips [mistake] when the ace came the pause made me pretty sure he didnt have it so that narrowed my read of his possible range to 22-KK my min raise on the flop was an attempt to confuse Pokercinni and to fish if he had hit a set,i use the minraise only when the blinds are high relative to the stack sizes , the raise also i hoped would buy me 2 free cards to hit a hidden straight with Pokercinni not sure if i was playing a raggy ace or that i had some sort of draw or just a pair like himself,when the turn card was my bingo card i had to think how to extract the rest of Pokercinni"s chips.When he checked the turn my turn bet was designed to hide my straight as Pokercinni would now mostly discount a flush draw from my range as he would think i would take a free card and it would make A3o or 34h look unlikely holdings, but i figured he might peg me for 66 77 a bluff and maybe still a raggy ace -A6,7,8 maybe 22 55 44 but with him only having around 9bb left i favoured the bet would look more like a bluff and that he would check raise me and go all in.He only smooth called which was strange and the check call on the river was as well, he later told me he had wished he had folded as he was stumped as to what i had on the turn,AND hoped i was bluffing lol .... but he never explained why he just called...

I make plays like this in position when deeper stacked as well when heads up in a pot when i read weakness in my opponents as sometimes [not very frequently] i will play any 2 cards in position and if i choose to check , call or raise when i have a gutshot it does tend to catch people out.If they re-raise me on the flops or bet heavily on the turn i have a hand i can throw away easily also it works the other way as now other players at the table now know i"m capable of re-raising weak holdings which is handy if i do catch something stronger.
Thats pretty much how i think through this sort of situation along with reads and timing tells , hope it helps you in some way [either trying it or dismissing it :)  ]

hi_am_chris:
how many chips did u start the hand with?

noble1:
10465 chips around 26bb

Swinebag:

--- Quote from: noble1 on October 21, 2008, 15:49:58 PM ---
the raise also i hoped would buy me 2 free cards to hit a hidden straight

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I love this play!

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