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bigredders:

--- Quote from: noble1 on November 06, 2008, 06:40:14 AM ---
All in pre-flop? due to stack size is best,folding is way to nitty,calling okay as long as you have the discipline to lay a hand down  :o.........if your read of the cut off is correct , why pump 15k into pot on the flop then dis-believe a caller and pump more money in on the turn , oh the joy of position  ;D  respect it and play it more yourself.Small pocket pairs are great , why hate them? out of position they are easy to get away from if you dont hit , in position you can have any old crap if your reads are correct.Bet sizing is also something you should look at within your game 1/3 prod bet for instance would of given you the info that the big blind had a hand of sorts then on the turn you shut down.That leaves you 8 to 9 bb to shove in to try and steal or double up with.You admit that you find small pocket pairs difficult , this is a perfect example of your leak with them , plug it up sir and learn to throw them away if you dont connect,have good reads,position,plenty of chips etc etc oops i"m repeating myself about discipline and position again  ::)
Also this liking of avoiding luck situations will hold your game back imo when short stacked,are you waiting for aces or kings? then its time to look at your short stack game bigredders , it might be time to revamp that part of your game..play some sng"s and improve it there , they are great for learning equity and hand ranges to have when you are short stacked....also have a tinker with pokerstove and you"ll find most hands , a good 95% need luck postflop to hold up....................

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when i said i try to avoid luck situations, i just meant in that situation. i have no problem pushing when short-stacked, that isn"t the issue. imo, making a 90k all-in raise into a 20k pot is my idea of relying on luck. my read of the cutt off was a pre-flop read, i knew he would put the hand down if he hadn"t connected, which he was very unlikely to have in this scenario.
i have to agree with the bet sizing, i got myself into a situation where i pretty much had to call the all-in, and maybe i should have just shut up shop when the turn came. the problem was that i knew that floating was defianetly within his range, as i had seen it only a few hands previous when he bluffed the chip leader.

all in all i think i just need to learn to chuck them away when i havent connected out of position... even when i think i might be ahead!

monkeyman:

--- Quote from: Jon MW on November 04, 2008, 15:57:01 PM ---
I think either all in preflop and try to win the blinds or double up against 2 overs.

Or limp preflop and give it up when you don"t hit the set.

Any other way of playing baby pairs out of position is often going to end badly for  you.

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I think the cowboy has got it spot on.  94k with blinds at 4k/8k isn"t comfortable, its shoving time, so that"s what I"d have done in this situation. If one of your opponents calls and has overcards, you"re getting your chips in as favourite. If they have a bigger pair, then you are just unlucky and its not your day.
  This is actually a very difficult hand to play post flop, as with no preflop raising, you have no indication of where you stand in relation to your opponents. I think that shoving preflop is your best bet and that calling preflop then shutting down if you don"t hit a set is your only other option.    

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