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How many times does Kings run into Aces pre flop
KarmaDope:
In answer to the OP: Every feckin" time I get KK, that"s how many times :D :D :D
RioRodent:
--- Quote from: noble1 on January 27, 2009, 18:43:10 PM ---
if thats what you think ;D thats ok lol lol i take it you couldn"t be arsed to read them
;D ;D
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Well, I started to... from the first link - I didn"t find P, C appears to indicate a "Complex Number" (but that whooshed me) and I didn"t find any explanation of (50,2).
The second link goes to an "error/holding page".
I started to read the 3rd link but didn"t find that that answered my questions either.
But, if you do actually understand what it all means but can"t be arsed to give a straight answer to 4 simple questions... well that"s OK.
I don"t dispute the results of the equations and I don"t actually need to understand the formulae... was just curious is all.
noble1:
--- Quote from: RioRodent on January 27, 2009, 21:06:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: noble1 on January 27, 2009, 18:43:10 PM ---
if thats what you think ;D thats ok lol lol i take it you couldn"t be arsed to read them
;D ;D
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Well, I started to... from the first link - I didn"t find P, C appears to indicate a "Complex Number" (but that whooshed me) and I didn"t find any explanation of (50,2).
The second link goes to an "error/holding page".
I started to read the 3rd link but didn"t find that that answered my questions either.
But, if you do actually understand what it all means but can"t be arsed to give a straight answer to 4 simple questions... well that"s OK.
I don"t dispute the results of the equations and I don"t actually need to understand the formulae... was just curious is all.
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lol its not easy explaining probability Rio i hoped BruceZ article would as it is pretty
confusing at first...
right basically P is probability , C is combination"s/combination , (50,2) is 1225 the number of possible hand combinations http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Combination.html but also you start getting into permutations http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Permutation.html
when dealing with combinations and number of people/total cards involved....
--- Quote ---But, if you do actually understand what it all means but can"t be arsed to give a straight answer to 4 simple questions... well that"s OK.
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i hope you see that its not easy to just give a simple answer...but i hope that answers it better :)
if anyone asks what are the chances of QQ facing AA KK 10 handed its 10.8to1 :P
before you ask....
you can find charts like on wizard of odds to find out all sorts of probability"s which
are pretty near on the answer [or close enough they are not always spot on]
here is a fun puzzle believe it or not is part of probability , have a go but only look at the picture for 5secs then press randomize
http://www.chemical-ecology.net/java/puzzles4.htm
here are some more if your bored ;D
http://www.chemical-ecology.net/java/probjav.htm
or practice your black jack [probability] http://www.chemical-ecology.net/java/21-1.htm question ?? if you make an additional bet after drawing your 1st 2 cards when your probability of busting is less than 50% would you beat the dealer?
--- Quote from: tonyj444 on January 27, 2009, 13:37:07 PM ---
I"ve not done probability calculations like that since school, I can"t remember how it all works. Out of interest though, have you calculated the odds that:
Someone has AA AND someone has KK (I think this is what you"ve done)
or
Someone has AA GIVEN someone has KK (this will be almost exactly the same as the odds that someone is dealt KK regardless of anyone elses hand).
Just curious
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these are the odds if you are dealt KK THEN what is the chance of an opponent being dealt AA
coprey:
Can"t say I find probability equations interesting. ???
However at the Virgin Festival at Dusk Till Dawn in 2008 there where 11 recorded AA v KK confrontations, in the first day. AA was winning 6 to 5, now whats the odds of that?
Swinebag:
--- Quote from: coprey on January 28, 2009, 09:22:41 AM ---
Can"t say I find probability equations interesting. ???
However at the Virgin Festival at Dusk Till Dawn in 2008 there where 11 recorded AA v KK confrontations, in the first day. AA was winning 6 to 5, now whats the odds of that?
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I think thats a routine A level stats question there col. I"ll have a go...but my expertise in teaching maths doesn"t extend to A level stats.
I got 0.039 (3 dps) this is roughly a 1 in 25 chance
I thought it would be much higher so will ask a colleague
I was correct (of course) ;D
to work it out....assuming that the probability of Aces beating Kings is 80% (0.8 ) and therefore kings beating aces is 20% (0.2)
the calculation is
(11 x 10 x 9 x 8 x 7)/(1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5) to work out the number of different combinations where Aces could beat kings 6 times in 11 races. This gives 462.
multiply this by the probability of 6 wins and 5 losses..so
462 x (0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 ) x (0.2 x 0.2 x 0.2 x 0.2 x 0.2)
=0.03875536896
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