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Winning Players No. 2
rubertoe:
my comment that seems to have started a few threads - was just a throw away re-mark!!
As i said to Honeybadg - "you know what poker players are like - ain"t we all winners?"
I personally - Like Mikey Boy - tend to remove Large wins from BR - and the main thing for me is to be able to win enough to keep me in action at the levels that i play at as i play mainly for fun and the intellectual challenge or is that i am intellectually challenged - i can never remember!!!
Mikeyboy9361:
Thanks for your post Leigh, interesting stuff, for me dealing with variance is the hardest part of the game. But I am coming to realise that you can do more than get your money in ahead, and then its in the lap of the poker gods!
I also play cash at low levels,25c/50c is my highest level, and have had some good wins, but there are massive swings. I find I am a little bored of cash at the moment and am now playing more SNGs.
How are you doing at the cash tables Dan?
Chipaccrual:
Variance is a tricky thing. To give you an idea of how often players cash, opr ranks over 700,000 players on stars. Here"s a selection of players over the past 120 days. All info is in public domain.
NameRankingIn The MoneyITM %ROIMoorman14th85/61914%147%George2Loose348th49/34414%292%shaundeeb2nd205/155813%107%
So the best players are cashing 1 in 6 at best in MTT"s
So if you targetted a 1 in 10 cash, I guess that is a good starting point. What"s other peoples thoughts ?
Eck:
--- Quote from: kinboshi on March 13, 2009, 15:09:26 PM ---
I tend to play cash.
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I am leaning towards this if you are actually looking for a profitable way forward. I have always been a tournament donkey for the last couple of years as i learnt my way. I have had a good start to 2009, in profit over £10k, but this week i haven"t been feeling too great so didn"t want to play any of the long sessions that you need to be prepared to do if you play tournaments.
I generally would fire up 3 or 4 tournaments a night and that could lead to late nights, coupled with early rises for work etc i think this must have a bearing on me feeling run down. So on tuesday i decided to fire up one table and see what i could do with £100 that was in my virgin account (normally play on crypto & ipoker). I sat in a 0.5/1.00 Eur table and have played 3 very short sessions (just one table) had early nights, feel a lot better and have moved that up to over £900. I haven"t been doing anything spectacular but just playing fairly LAG at a 5 handed table. This could be the way forward i feel, certainly through the week for me but whether i give up on tournaments I am not sure.
I think the need for some kind of goal is helpful I am thinking of concentrating on the cash action during the week to pay for vegas in July and have a bit of fun at the weekends (when the wine comes out :D ) on the tournaments tables.
Dunno if that helps or just comes across as some sort of random brag, hopefully helps.
Edit: typed this before you said you weren"t keen on cash but still posting anyway :)
Swinebag:
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 13, 2009, 17:26:51 PM ---
Variance is a tricky thing. To give you an idea of how often players cash, opr ranks over 700,000 players on stars. Here"s a selection of players over the past 120 days. All info is in public domain.
NameRankingIn The MoneyITM %Moorman14th85/61914%George2Loose348th49/34414%shaundeeb2nd205/155813%
So the best players are cashing 1 in 6 at best in MTT"s
So if you targetted a 1 in 10 cash, I guess that is a good starting point. What"s other peoples thoughts ?
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I dont think you should target cashing, but aiming to win (or at least top 3) when you go deep.
From an admittedly small sample on pokerstars 180 player SNGs I have an ITM of 19% (beat that moorman ;D) but an ROI of -45% due to the fact that I have yet to make a big score when I do cash.
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