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Post flop play - How do you play it and why ?
George2Loose:
--- Quote from: AMRN on March 23, 2009, 14:00:16 PM ---
If you had checked the flop, I suspect there is a high likelihood that he would check behind to see if he can hit his draw for free.... and once the 4th spade hits on the turn, you can easily fold your set. Perhaps sometimes best to check the flop rather than lead out?
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Steve are yo not always saying don"t be results orientated? Don"t u think you are being in this case? Leigh got his money in good- the play with the Ks is pretty bad imo.
Plus the RNG means the turn may not have been a spade if they both check :D
Chipaccrual:
My thoughts were that after his initial raise, he"s on an over pair, possibly with a spade.
So, my chips are going in fairly good here and a double up puts me in a comfortable position for the middle phase of the tournament to try and build my stack.
I"m just putting it down as the guy got lucky. I"m pretty sure I would make the same play again as more often than not, unless he"s already made his flush, I am going to take down the hand, either at showdown or he will fold before.
I think that makes sense. ;D
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: noble1 on March 23, 2009, 12:35:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 23, 2009, 10:07:45 AM ---
Very little reads I"m afraid. Hade been at the table for about 20-25 mins, so didn"t really have much to offer. Most of you seem to be saying, caution, but try to get your chips in. ;D
Here"s what happened.
*** FLOP *** [7s 9s :3s:]
Chipaccrual: bets 3200
Big4390: raises 5950 to 9150
Chipaccrual: raises 11279 to 20429 and is all-in
Big4390: calls 9050 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2229) returned to Chipaccrual
I"m now curious as to what Noble1 thinks the guy is holding as he has played him on Tilt a bit. Anyone else want to offer suggestions before I reveal ?
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without knowing his image of you leigh its hard to say but this is a rather large re-raise ....
A over pair fits with a spade - he has u for a bluff , flush draw or a set which he has to consider [a bigger pair here with a spade would be a 2/1 dog but he has decided to get groovy and go with it [stack size calls for it].. or maybe a made flush but not the nuts ..
If your image to him his a weak post flop player then he might of got jiggy with 2 high over cards and has tried to muscle you off ..
TBH given i have labeled him tight conservative and you have chosen a lead out line and given that you have around 22bb back i would fold , lick my wounds and give him credit for a made flush....
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I"m not sure I"d credit anyone with a made flush there - yes, it"s part of their range, but so are a lot of other hands.
They"d have to be Mr Tighty, from Tightville, Nit County before I could narrow their range down that much.
Chipaccrual:
--- Quote from: kinboshi on March 23, 2009, 14:35:01 PM ---
They"d have to be Mr Tighty, from Tightville, Nit County before I could narrow their range down that much.
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lol, I thought Rich lived near Luton ? ;D
noble1:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on March 23, 2009, 14:21:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on March 23, 2009, 14:00:16 PM ---
If you had checked the flop, I suspect there is a high likelihood that he would check behind to see if he can hit his draw for free.... and once the 4th spade hits on the turn, you can easily fold your set. Perhaps sometimes best to check the flop rather than lead out?
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Steve are yo not always saying don"t be results orientated? Don"t u think you are being in this case? Leigh got his money in good- the play with the Ks is pretty bad imo.
Plus the RNG means the turn may not have been a spade if they both check :D
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true its not a gr8 play in hindsight now we know his hand but we dont know how BIG4390 perceived Leigh...
This is not the best textured flop to see when you have top set oop and a tight conservative player behind , if we lead out we rather set him up to re-raise a draw which will commit him or we walk into a made flush or he folds 2 high non spade cards..
So whats the best line with 26bb behind,is it always correct to push our stack on the flop?
lol lol i was not joking when i said he is tight conservative with the odd move. he is as you put it a nit.Without knowing what or how he has perceived Leighs play up to now i think it is wrong to say he played AK bad..
But i do think seeing a turn card here is better,if your style is get it in on the flop no matter then Leighs move is ok ish.
On 1 suit flops oop i prefer a more cautious approach against someone who i know is generally conservative and i"m prepared to play the streets and reassess his possible range as the board played out..If we were in position the whole hand/situation plays out a lot different dont you think?....
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